J*ffrey R*th–Cyber Stalker


note–as a primer to this latest case study as to why it is impossible to reason with Zionist Jews,  please see the following–

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/the-ramblings-of-one-jeffrey-roth-and-my-responses/

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/11/17/roth-returns-for-another-beating/

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/jeffrey-roth-secret-shin-bet-agent-strikes-again/

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/rth-now-threatening-to-shut-down-theuglytruth/

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/jffrey-rth-former-shin-bet-agent-departs-from-the-ugly-truth/

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/jffrey-rth-former-shin-bet-agent-now-threatening-slander/ 

J*ffrey R*th, self-described “former Shin Bet agent” and “rich” lawyer, having gotten his ass whipped in every debate that has taken place here recently on the blog has decided to switch gears on the “child molester” thing and instead now claims to have accessed my private credit information. In an email I received from him last evening, the former secret agent–who no doubt has “powerful connections” with Israel’s intelligence services, nevertheless was forced to rely on a buddy working at a car dealership to run my credit report. The email reads as follows–

“Just a quick FYI. Apparently there was an application to buy a car submitted with your name and information associated with it. So, just wanted to let you know that if you see an “accidental” inquiry on your credit bureau report, it was totally unintentional. We traced the ip address that was used to send this application in on line, and it was linked to a coffee shop in Fairfax VA. Unfortunately they have no security cameras installed, so we are not able to determine who actually did this. Well, just thought I would let you know. By the way, maybe you should do something to enhance that rating! Horrible credit going on Mark. My friend, the owner of the car dealership said that it was good that it was a mistake, because your credit was not good enough to purchase even an egg. lol At least there was some humor involved with this tragic error. You should run mine and compare the difference. How do you afford all those kids with such horrible credit? Kind of normal though for your kind, huh? Lots of kids, shitty credit, very fixed/limited income, sponging all you can off the taxpayers, and then calling everyone else a leach/parasite. Yep, very typical.”

And so, once again, the true nature of that ‘great Jewish spirit’ we hear so much about these days shines through.

Personally I think he is lying through his teeth and did no such thing. However, what this and the accompanying comments by our deranged friend reveal is that all the stereotypes associated with Jews over the centuries have been well-founded. They play dirty. They lie. They measure a person’s worth solely in terms of shekels and money is their god.

It is also a case-study as to how politicians are threatened into caving into these peoples’ demands. Given the criminal mindset that has institutionalised itself in “Jewish” thinking, they make using dirty tricks priority #1.

Rest assured I will follow up on this and if indeed our friend has done as he alleges I will be going to the Federales to find out what laws if any have been broken. Clearly this is a case of criminal cyber stalking, and given the fact I have saved all the emails from our friend they will have no trouble whatsoever finding him (or her).

MG

update from our ‘former Shin Bet agent’ and ‘rich’ lawyer–

Check your report champ, then there will no longer be the “what if”. Tell your friend with the “agency” I said Boo from the Jew. Then tell your blog that the Jews mindset is about money. Then remind them why there are a million blogs about muslims and only a handful about the Jews. Then pat them on the head and blame the church, God, your mother or whoever else you wish to blame. Then, after all that is said and done, open your eyes, and SHAZAM, you are still you, and you are still stuck in your meaningless little existence with NO WAY of changing anything. If the Jews represent less than 2% of the total population, then tell me, howmuch does your following represent? Your five followers are ZERO THREAT to anyone. Just like the Taco Bell dog. hahahahaha <——— me jeering at the big bad gladiator. The only difference is, you battle in some fantasy land and we battle in the real world. Hence, when you woke up that fateful morning and learned that Beirut had been leveled, those bombs were real. While I sleep all cozy in my big bed only dreaming about how the last time all the arab nations attacked Israel and we bitch slapped them all in a mere 6 days. So, go preach to your choir champ, while I go check my investments and think about my next vacation. PS. How did you like our Menorah in the Catholic Church. hahahaha. Bet you couldn’t get a cross in a Synagogue. hahahaha Such a beautiful sight. hahahah LOSER. And even though we may be hated, with all that hate we still get to live this life our way, not yours. So, have fun in your heaven while we have fun here. hahahaha.. My guess is that the FBI is relatively busy right now dealing with muslims considering one of yours recently shot a group of innocent people at Fort Hood. Your people are less than dirt. Thats why you have continuously FAILED throughout the course of history. Keep on your course of failure loser. While my people continue to invent and invest. I find it amazing how for all the years you muslims had the territory in Israel, you couldn’t even figure out how to grow a fucking tomato. Now that it is in the hands of the chosenites it is flourishing. You losers only want it back so you can turn it back to dirt. What good has EVER come from the arabs? That was a rhetorical question, because there is nothing to name. Your idol threats do not intimidate me. Again, the reference to the taco bell dog

Saint Jeffrey

  1. #1 by Jalid on November 21, 2009 - 2:37 pm

    Jeff i see you play poker
    Picture this, (yes, I know, lotsa picturing …)
    You are at a nice casino playing poker and you are just hot, boy you are,
    A blind is called and every one is in,
    One of the players is apparently a camel jockey who sits right in front of you
    His name is Jalid, (wink)
    Cautiously, you look at your cards: You got two Queens!
    Every one bets again.

    The flop comes and on the table there are now a Six, a Jack and a Queen.

    Adopting a monotonous manner you throw in a few chips; everybody else calls….
    Here comes the turn:
    Another queen!
    Swallowing hard (and trying to be a shyster), you place a small bet.
    Some one raises, shit hits the fan and you just play along (you got the nuts and it is now a big pot.!)
    Here comes the river and it’s a Ten.
    You place a large bet and everybody else folds,
    Except for the Arab guy who raises you by going all in!
    “All in?”
    “I got the Sampson option! How could it be?”

    Serves you well, Jeff
    :)

  2. #2 by Long Beach California on November 21, 2009 - 2:58 pm

    Why do I ‘hate’ the Jews? Because they just can’t get over the fact that some people hate them and dont think theyre special. They just cant let it go and will forever annoy those who find them annoying without cease unless they admit that jews arent annoying. This is the exact kind of shit that made me ‘hate’ them years before I knew anything about zionism, israel, or the lobby.

    But I thank God(swt) for Islam. You see, Islam offers the only advice that will succeed against jews in the long run: to be suspicious of them. Any society (Islamic, Christian, even pagan) that follows the Quran’s simple advice of not trusting them or allowing your life, children, and money to be in their guardianship has found the only way to prosper. The jews cannot exist let alone or succeed in a nation where they do not have access to others people’s lives(gov/military), children(schools/tv), or money(banks). People condemn Sura 9 for saying not to befriend Christians or Jews. I think in this the Quran foresaw the exact processes that would happen over time as judaism would succeed in its perversion of Christianity to the point that most of the world’s Christians would eventually become indistinguishable from the most sinful of jews. A friend isn’t just someone you’re friendly to, its someone you put your unquestioning trust in. The Quran was right to say that such trust should NEVER be given to jews, or to Christians. The reason for including Christians is because all people should look out for their own. No people, nation, or faith should entrust their security and survival to another. Salam wa haq one and all.

  3. #3 by Jim on November 21, 2009 - 3:36 pm

    all one has to do is call credit burueas and have lock on ones credit so noone can even inquire without a password-authorization from you

    –note from me, MG–thank you for the info Jim, something all of us should consider doing. As I said I think JR is lying, as he has already established this as his main mode of operation, but valuable info nonetheless.

  4. #4 by Jeffrey on November 21, 2009 - 4:05 pm

    Check your report champ, then there will no longer be the “what if”. Tell your friend with the “agency” I said Boo from the Jew. Then tell your blog that the Jews mindset is about money. Then remind them why there are a million blogs about muslims and only a handful about the Jews. Then pat them on the head and blame the church, God, your mother or whoever else you wish to blame. Then, after all that is said and done, open your eyes, and SHAZAM, you are still you, and you are still stuck in your meaningless little existence with NO WAY of changing anything. If the Jews represent less than 2% of the total population, then tell me, howmuch does your following represent? Your five followers are ZERO THREAT to anyone. Just like the Taco Bell dog. hahahahaha <——— me jeering at the big bad gladiator. The only difference is, you battle in some fantasy land and we battle in the real world. Hence, when you woke up that fateful morning and learned that Beirut had been leveled, those bombs were real. While I sleep all cozy in my big bed only dreaming about how the last time all the arab nations attacked Israel and we bitch slapped them all in a mere 6 days. So, go preach to your choir champ, while I go check my investments and think about my next vacation. PS. How did you like our Menorah in the Catholic Church. hahahaha. Bet you couldn’t get a cross in a Synagogue. hahahaha Such a beautiful sight. hahahah LOSER. And even though we may be hated, with all that hate we still get to live this life our way, not yours. So, have fun in your heaven while we have fun here. hahahaha.. My guess is that the FBI is relatively busy right now dealing with muslims considering one of yours recently shot a group of innocent people at Fort Hood. Your people are less than dirt. Thats why you have continuously FAILED throughout the course of history. Keep on your course of failure loser. While my people continue to invent and invest. I find it amazing how for all the years you muslims had the territory in Israel, you couldn’t even figure out how to grow a fucking tomato. Now that it is in the hands of the chosenites it is flourishing. You losers only want it back so you can turn it back to dirt. What good has EVER come from the arabs? That was a rhetorical question, because there is nothing to name. Your idol threats do not intimidate me. Again, the reference to the taco bell dog

    Saint Jeffrey

    –note from me, MG–
    God, this is sooooooo good.

    Like I said, you make my job easy.

    Everytime I say or write something about your collective character and people in the middle (still suffering from the narcotic effects of your Jew-jitzu and saying to themselves 'well, I don'tknow–SHAZAM you come along and turn everything I say about you into pure gold.

    Go ahead, count your money. It's the only thing youhave going for you. When all is said and done, you will always be remembered throughout history as a wretched, miserable lot of people who were hated everywhere they went and who–when offered the opportunity of living in peace with the rest of mankind, instead chose the path of war, exploitation and oppression of others.

    It is no wonder you hated Jesus then and hate him now–not enough in his 'portfoglio' to sway you into living as a righteous group of people.

    In the end, He was right–you are truly 'children of the devil'.

    Now, down to brass tacks. As promised, I will be going to the FBI on monday to file a criminal complaint against you for cyber stalking. You fucked up big time in emailing me and telling me you were prying into my credit, something you should have known about being a 'lawyer' and all.

    So, congrats JR. You have continued on in the great tradition of your people and have done yourself in.

  5. #5 by mantiqaltayr on November 21, 2009 - 4:31 pm

    Mark,

    If you’d like, forward some of the emails you have gotten from this individual to me and I’ll see if some of the readers of Mantiq al-Tayr who are affiliated with the FBI might want to do some forensic work on them.
    Mantiq,
    I will send over the emails and the IP address later on this afternoon. I appreciate your offer to help out.

  6. #6 by Jalid on November 21, 2009 - 4:52 pm

    Oh shit, Jeff the FBI!
    You better run boy,
    shit done hit the fan
    :) :) :) :)

  7. #7 by Sam on November 21, 2009 - 5:06 pm

    I hope he gets his ass whipped.

  8. #8 by Long Beach California on November 21, 2009 - 5:19 pm

    Send that khazar to Uzbekistan for some government lovin from his causcasian cousins!

  9. #9 by Anonymous on November 21, 2009 - 5:33 pm

    i am fully aware of the zionist clique, one of a few, in the quest for world domination.

    but this just seems a bit over the top. would someone act this… stereotypical? would someone be so much of a commercial for those who place the blame for most of the world’s evils at the feet of the jews, knowing full well his emails would be published??

    i’m not really calling bullshit here, MG. i’m not saying that this guy is a sockpuppet you invented. i AM saying that you may want to question the motives of someone who would write these things knowing you’d publish them, and would even comment on your blog himself, with the RATHER OBVIOUS intent of raising hackles.

    the REAL controllers of the world have every intention of fomenting hate, conflict, and war. perhaps they want you and i to blame the jews as much as they want the rest of the western population to blame the “islamofascists” thereby perpetuating the cycle of hate and endless war

    i hope you’ll take my advice. let’s all demand Truth, peace, and justice.

    –not from me, MG–” anonymous”, no he is not a creation of my own. He is the real deal. Unfortunately he is not alone, as I have dealt with dozens (hundreds possibly?) of his type. At this point I cannot give out his email address because–as I said earlier–I will be going to the FBI about this matter and therefore must watch my p’s and q’s. However, as I know he monitors this blog (and especially for the comments dealing with him) once he reads this he will no doubt leave some comment as to how you can get hold of him. However, I must warn you, he is flat-out nutso.

  10. #10 by theuglytruth on November 21, 2009 - 6:29 pm

    For those having a tough time believeing that the creature JR is the real deal, I completely understand. It is ‘beyond the pale’ for normal people to accept the notion that there really are individuals possessed (good word) of this mentality.

    A few years ago I got into another tete a tete with another individual whose mentality mirrors that of JR and is reposted here below–

    ”I am a Jew, I am an Israeli, I am a Zionist, and I am both racially and
    intellectually superior to you, the non-Jew. For your lies, your pathetic
    stupidity, and your anti-Semitism, your people will suffer under the
    punishment of the world’s future super-power, Israel!”

    “You seem to forget Israel’s nuclear capability. No country will risk getting
    hit with an atomic bomb, and therefore Israel’s survival is assured. We
    will also, at a certain point in the coming decades, finally realize the need
    to exercise ruthlessness, and will blow our Arab neighbors to kingdom
    come. I am sure you will have the joy of witnessing the first example of the
    latter policy, when Israel takes action against Iran (and perhaps also Syria)
    in the coming months.”

    “Jews are superior to dirty-blooded non-Jews like you. While your ancestors
    were sleeping with the swine in the forests of Europe, my ancestors were
    building the city of Jerusalem. Israel will come to be the world’s newest
    superpower. It is our destiny, written in the prophecies of god, written in
    our ambitions, written in our blood!”

    “Beware, for your kind will come to fear us. The coming 30 years will make
    your eyes twitch my gentile!”

    “I am a Jew, you are not. I have the privilege of having god by my side, as
    well as the world’s supreme nation. Perhaps you do not yet see that the
    worst is awaiting your kind, in the face of the coming Islamo-Christian
    War, from which my kind will arise victorious.”

    “I am only 14 years old, but I have enough wisdom to see that you are
    nothing but a piece of gentile filth. No matter, perhaps god will find it
    suitable that a terrorist attack will end your misery. I shall personally pray
    for it to be so.”

    —Orri Joseph Avraham, an Israeli citizen

  11. #11 by angryinadk on November 21, 2009 - 6:32 pm

    Don’t Let that slime harass you. You should go to your local district att’y with the copies of this correspondence. While I am no expert it would certainly appear that state and federal laws have been broken. Also your attacker has exposed himself to a possible civil action for attempting to damage your reputation and his reckless damage to your credit rating. Any unauthorized check of your credit rating is illegal, both by your slimy stalker and the accomplice at the car dealership. Hang them!

    –I had not thought about going to the state DA but you are right, and considering that he is the husband of my wife’s midwife, that sounds like a great idea.

  12. #12 by theuglytruth on November 21, 2009 - 6:52 pm

    Many thanks to Mike Riveiro of http://www.whatreallyhappened.com for providing a link to this piece today along with his comments concerning JR’s childish behavior.

  13. #13 by Arabia-Felix on November 21, 2009 - 7:55 pm

    I am not an admirer of people who hold credit cards.

    The whole idea of credit card is to take your personal financial
    freedom away, and enrich the J*ff R*ths of the world.

    That said Mark, i think JAMES DE JUSTE gave you a good advice,
    to just ignore J*ffs emails.

    If it comes to the point where he harrases you,to the extent
    he is violating the law of the land, there are legal channels
    that you can go through.

    I think only liscenced businesses can run your credit info,they
    Businesses can do that credit check after your permision and there are rules for them as well to abide by.

    If rules were violated by that business, it is easy to find out,
    that is if you want to follow up the case.

    There are no businesses allowed to run clients’ credit background as a favour for their perverted ,vicious freinds.

    Rest of what J*ff thinks of politics and religion should
    not be discussed. I don’t believe such people should be
    debated with. I for one will not respond to his ranting.

    What do personal credit cards have to do with the world of ideas.

    Did he not come here to exchange points of views with the rest!!.

    Amazing.

  14. #14 by T on November 21, 2009 - 8:04 pm

    I used to like the “Jews” also

    however their arrogance , such as this one, will be their inevitable downfall

    then the REAL chosens, at some time in the future, will laugh last we were almoost fooled by a bunch of hooknose lying murdering criminals

  15. #15 by Greg Bacon on November 21, 2009 - 8:11 pm

    I find it amazing how for all the years you muslims had the territory in Israel, you couldn’t even figure out how to grow a fucking tomato.

    Maybe if they had an unlimited line of free credit from Uncle Sucker, that would’ve helped?

    Maybe if they had their agents prowling Wall Street banks, stealing trillions of dollars, money that MADOFF to Israel, that would’ve helped?

    Maybe if they had access to all that stolen wealth and used it buy MSM outlets and poison the world with lies and falsehoods, that would’ve helped?

    Maybe if they had some type of bloodthirsty, kill ‘em all terrorist group like the MOSSAD, murdering Americans and having convenient patsies to place the blame for those false-flags, like the Israeli sponsored 9/11, that would’ve helped?

    Tell me Jeffrey, why is it that before Israel came into existence, the USA had NO enemies in the ME?

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but all your posturing seems like false bravado from someone who knows his Zionist entity is in deep trouble.

    Hell, all that money the Chosen Ones have stolen could’ve made Haiti a world-class power.

  16. #16 by Arabia-Felix on November 21, 2009 - 8:15 pm

    LONG BEACH CALIF,

    Many a times, i requested from you, to PLEASE stop pretending
    to be a Muslim. That said, there is no word such as FREINDSHIP
    in the Qur’an. Perhaps you are learning “your” Qur’an from
    websites and Daniel pipers of the world.

    That Ayah you MISQUOTED is talking about how the Christians
    ALWAYS aid the JEWS in their fight against Muslims.

    If you look back in history,since the revelation of the Qur’an,
    that is what has been happening.

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS JEWISH POWER IN THIS WORLD.

    Allah revealed in the Qur’an that the MASTERY on the world was given to THOSE WHO FOLLOWED the MESSIAH ,peace be upon him,over
    those WHO REJECTED him and SABOTAGED him.

    Christians who were blessed with that MASTERY, served the JEWS,
    and always come with them in massacring muslims.

    You don’t believe that?.Look around you.

    Every Muslim nation Jews decide to “obliterate”, there comes the
    power of CHRISTENDOM with them, doing the job for them.

    Do Afghanistan and Iraq ring a bell?

    You think Jews could fight those wars ??

    That said, the Qur’an also talks about how the lost christians
    whose religion was polluted by you know whom,- those christians
    who lost christianity in it’s originality, but kept LOVE and believe in Jesus [pbuh], those their case will be argued fiercely infront of GOD, the creator of heavens and earth, by Jesus pbuh, saying that…. My people didn’t know better.

    LONG BEACH CALIF, kindly, quit pretending to be a Muslim,
    it is very obvious that you are NOT, BIG TIME.

  17. #17 by Arabia-Felix on November 21, 2009 - 8:22 pm

    Phony Muslim aka LONG BEACH CALIF,

    The word is NOT frendship which is translated as(Asdiqaa’)in Aribic, it is AWLIYAA’, which i don’t know if there is an accurate English equavalen word of it; that entails relience
    in terms of power,economics, social and so on and so forth.

  18. #18 by Naf on November 21, 2009 - 9:03 pm

    Mr. R*th might be crazy, and he might be crazy like a fox. While it’s true that centuries of inbreeding have produced some pretty crazy Ashkenazi, we can’t forget that his people LOVE to be persecuted. When they can’t get anyone to persecute them, they go around provoking it. This perpetuates their victim status, so they won’t feel bad about continuing to screw us. They can also continue to play the victim card to stave off criticism. If you start looking in to most of the “Anti-Semitic” groups formed in the U.S. after WW2, they are almost always a nest of “the Chosen.”

  19. #19 by Kneel before Zog on November 21, 2009 - 9:25 pm

    Dear Mark, fear not the Jew; Logos is behid you.

    Keep up the good work and God bless you, your friends and your family.

  20. #20 by mondo on November 21, 2009 - 9:49 pm

    I find it quite ironic that this Jeff psyscho claims that Jews are great farmers and arabs are not. That is laughable. Jews are infamous for being terrible farmers and have had to rely on Arabs and Gentiles for centuries to do their farming for them.

  21. #21 by Frustrated Christian on November 21, 2009 - 10:15 pm

    Jeffrey,

    RE: If the Jews represent less than 2% of the total population, then tell me, howmuch does your following represent?

    It ain’t the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. Jesus said of the truth, “few find it.” You aren’t one of the few.

    Only takes one good sheepdog to protect the sheep. And ours ain’t neutered – he’s a bit edgy, so don’t tease and provoke him. The Good Shepard is pointing you wolves out to him and he’s snapping at your heels, chasing you away from the fold. He hasn’t let us down yet, and he’s still a strong young dog.

    You wolves eventually turn and kill your own pack leader. One of your own will someday take your place, and later yet another you of your own will turn on him and take his place. That is the future you have to look forward to.

    Don’t climb the fence, thinking you are gonna get a free meal, Jeffrey. You are gonna get your butt bit. Sic’um Mark!

  22. #22 by Arabia-Felix on November 21, 2009 - 10:37 pm

    Mark,

    If he is telling the truth and the car dealership did what
    it did, that dealership will be yours.

    I hope.

    But my guess is he is lying, just to disturb you psychologically.

  23. #23 by Druid on November 21, 2009 - 10:51 pm

    Jeff Rots is the perfect embodiment, a perfect example of what we’ve been saying and what Mark Glenn has been saying for a long time about THE JEWS.

    When they play poker they usually manage to win by bluffing, but in real life, their bluff is just laughable as they’re Losing it big time.

    This Jewish people needs help. Exorcism or something. Get rid of the leading vampire and maybe they’ll be set free of their curse?

    Dr Druid

  24. #24 by Jenife on November 21, 2009 - 11:21 pm

    vis a vis the last response from Arabia Felix..

    it really amounts to the art of leverage on Wall Street and Pennsylvania Avenue.

    Jewish power, yes, over the money, minds and government of the Christians, or rather, the former Christians

  25. #25 by Jenife on November 21, 2009 - 11:27 pm

    vis a vis the last response from Arabia Felix..

    -it really amounts to the art of leverage on Wall Street and Pennsylvania Avenue.

    -Jewish power, yes, over the money, minds and government of the Christians, or rather, the former Christians

    -also Palestine was a food exporting nation as recently as 1967.

    -the 6, they actually claimed 7, Arab armies were only 3. The Ziopnists made the first move against the half of the polulation in the ‘Jewish ” areas that was Palestinian and the arab armies were under-armed, far from support lines, and within three months inferior in arms to the Israeli forcces.

    -in other words, more hollyweird myths

  26. #26 by Sulla on November 22, 2009 - 2:05 am

    Mr. Naf,

    You are a genius. That’s one of the best summations in a long time I’ve read.

    The fact is they are NOT like the rest of humanity. We have to face that. They are the cause and effect for most of the major world ills. They are almost agents of chaos if you will. They are the Black Mambas of world events.

  27. #27 by kosher swineberg on November 22, 2009 - 2:07 am

    Jeff didnt mention that when israel “bitchslapped” all the arab nations in 6 days back when? how many years ago? cause i remember that israel got BITCHSLAPPED by the tiny little Hezbollah group in Lebanon in 2006. and now they wanna take on Iran? Iran is Hezbollah times a thousand.
    thats the thing with these jews, they think they’re invincible, they start trouble, get their asses kicked, then call for a ceasefire so it looks like they’re honourable ones when in fact, they’re retreating with their tails between their legs. thats right, tails, cos they’re animals. Not all ofcourse, just people like Jeff which is most of them.
    All they bring up is the 6 day war, without the money and weapons they leech from the USA they’re nothing but penny pinching fraudsters.
    thank God for blogs and the internet, people are finally learning the truth about these parasites

  28. #28 by Sulla on November 22, 2009 - 2:19 am

    I just thought about the old timers I used to know who told stories about them. Then I remember stories from an old Lebanese guy I know. The old timers I knew were decendants of eastern Europe who got a constant shafting. The old Lebanese told me about the practices the Black Mambas engaged in. None of these people said anything derogatory about Christians, Muslims, Druze, Catholics, Protestants but all commented on the Black Mamba tribe.

    The rest of us are REAL, normal, true human beings. We have our issues and even fights but we’re still capable of mercy and genteel belavior but these Black Mamba tribesmen are a cancer, a total pox, without a soul almost. I really feel sorry for those Gazans in a locked down concentration camp with these arrogant psychopaths constantly at their throat and selling their organs like vampiric ghouls or the Lebanese who rebuild Beirut only to have it blown to shit once again out of the blue and at a whim through USA made F-16s.

    The Black Mambas are the enemies of mankind in my opinion. Muslim, Christian, Druze, Zoroastrian, Pagan, whatever, we got to come to a realization someday and then act accordingly. They have nuclear warheads….neutralize that threat and they got squat.

  29. #29 by Long Beach California on November 22, 2009 - 2:19 am

    Felix, I already said I was done arguing. In the comments section on the “The Smoke” I defended my Sufi beliefs. If you think the Sufis, or the Shia, or the Druze, or the Ibadi, or the Ismaili, etc… aren’t true Muslims then there is no point is further discussion. I also never said I was an ethnic Arab. I said I was Muslim, most westerners by the way, don’t convert to a sect or a fiq – they convert to the truth they see in the Quran and the lives of the Muslims they meet. Stop being dishonest yourself. I dont want to “take your Islam” as you accuse me in another thread. Stay a Sunni- your Iman is strong, but I will continue on my sufi path and I WILL CONTINUE TO BE A MUSLIM whether you agree or not. You have been proven either dishonest or ignorant of Sufism on a previous thread and I wont keep the fitna up. I’m not zog or any one else and your little insults aren’t hurting anyone.

    Mark, can you please run my IP’s. I have posted using one here at my Grandparents house in East LA and another at Cal State Long Beach. I want my name cleared. If my presence causes the kind of distraction that jewsuse to poison the debate, then I will stop commenting and continue to read without participating – the truth comes first and I will still be grateful to Allah (swt) I found this blog.

    –note from me, MG–“Long Beach” Certainly I will honor your request if you insist, but I would prefer you not go, as your comments are very good. I have been watching this ‘contest’ between you and Felix build (from the benefit of some distance) and even though I am not a Muslim (per se) I would disagree strongly with Felix’ assertion that you are some sort of ‘spy’ sent in to cause trouble.

    For now please don’t go, and let’s see if we can affect some kind of rapproachment between you and Felix.

  30. #30 by Long Beach California on November 22, 2009 - 3:55 am

    I dont “want” anyone to run my info. I want tthe truth to be known and to not be a distraction. I hate it when jews or those acting like jews take the attention away from a blog’s main issue – and this one’s is important.

    For the record: I am not nor have I ever claimed to be an ethnic Arab, to be fluent in the Arab language, to have memorized the entire Quran (in English or) in Arabic, or to have been born in a Muslim nation. I reverted several years ago and did so under guidance from the Quran which grew out of my love for the poetry of Rumi and Farid Ud Din Attar (Conference of Birds). I never once had any sect, fiq, or ethnic loyalty in mind when doing so. Felix Arabia’s experience growing up in the Deen and in an Islamic country has produced a different -neither better nor worse- type of Muslim than what college student oriented club meetings in a western nation will produce. I neither dislike him nor disrespect him.

  31. #31 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on November 22, 2009 - 3:56 am

    <<>>

    Hey Miss Conny! What bring you back to the Ugly Truth?

    Let me first state that Mark Glenn does NOT need me to defend him. But I will do it anyway. Because you made my blood boil.

    I believe the moderator was fair to you by giving you equal opportunity to defend your self.

    Mark Glenn is not the one who edit or censor posters.

    You have lied and he caught you butt naked.

    You reemerged under false name to create a false image of you that does not fit you as a real person. Again, busted by the moderator.

    Then you threatened with a law suite to shoot down this site. Just like a desperate poker player who is on a losing streak and suddenly resorts to bluff mode, to recover his loses. Mark Glenn called your bluff.

    You declared defeat, by stating the victory belonged to Mark.
    Then you have the audacity to say, You won when you snatched my pen away. How did he do it when he still permit you to post messages on this site.

    Last but not least, I don’t appreciate you attacking Mark Glenn family and go into his personal life. You imply that Mark who is a father of nine lovely children must be on public assistance to make it. So, what if he is? Why is that relevant? At least he does not steal, rob his Christian and non Christian friends like your Madhoff did. He does not engage in illegal and criminal activities such as your Rabbi Gate: the killing of Palestinian children and snatching their body part to sell for profit.

    Whatever Mark received or not, He is entitled for it under our law. Besides, that is not of your bizz wack!. It is your ilk who fleeces America every day the sun rises for 15-30 million dollars. It is your stinking shit hole in the East who should be cut off the nipples and told, it has been a ride. I could go on forever to site other examples, but, you get the picture Miss Conny!

    I saw Marks Children! They are very lovely. You just envy him.I also resent the fact that you took a cheap shot at them and their father’s personal life in retaliation. So you could score a point. By aiming @ his children, I consider it like targeting my own. That is despicable. You have no shame Mr.!

    I don’t remember if Mark asked you, “did your mom ever told you who your real biological father is?”

    Family members are off limit on this site during a debate, you moron.

    May God forbid you from having any children!

    –note from me–What can I say, except WOW! It sure is nice to have friends.

    Relax, brother Mahmoud, our friend “JR” thinks he is smart, but the fact is I (we) played him like a bongo drum. Everything he did read like a script. I knew he would blow his top and reveal himself if he was maneuvered just right, and he did, thanks in no small part to all of you.

    This is how we beat them–forcing them out into the open where their magic will do them no good.

  32. #32 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on November 22, 2009 - 4:21 am

    Hey Miss Conny:

    You don’t toss a snake into the cradle, then act surprise if the baby get bit. You just fucked up. You have no one to blame but yourself.

    I have free advice to you: “Three things you don’t miss with; a rattle snake, a jack hammer, and Mark Glenn.” Mark is a one-man-army, and I hate to be on his shit list.

  33. #33 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on November 22, 2009 - 4:25 am

    Greg Bacon:

    Tell me Jeffrey, why is it that before Israel came into existence, the USA had NO enemies in the ME?

    Wow! This is one million dollar question Greg. Hope Jeffery will have guts to answer your question as to why no one in the Middle East hated America prior to 1948. Now we are getting into the roots of the problem.

  34. #34 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on November 22, 2009 - 4:58 am

    Ruth Bernstein: No matter what I say about you, it is in the spirit of the debate. Please don’t take offense.

    Personally, I do like you and value your feedback, and input on this site, even though I disagree with you most of the time. I know you are passionate about your cause, relentless in your efforts, and take a lot of abuse. For that I give you credit.

    The only difference between us, only one of us get paid for his writing on this site, and it is not me.

    But, no matter what, if God forbid, you no longer around here for some reason or another, you will be sorely missed by this writer. That is the truth. Take it anyway you want cousin!

  35. #35 by Paul Mills on November 22, 2009 - 5:19 am

    The world has had enough of these zionazi slime buckets and, soon come, we will wipe them off the face of this planet forever.

  36. #36 by Mike on November 22, 2009 - 5:37 am

    It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand why the Jews have had their asses kicked by a multitude of empires and republics throughout the time of written history! They are arrogant, bigoted snobs who have no qualms about ripping off all non-jews, spitting at the mere thought of other ideologies and traditions that are non-jew and extorting and black mailing others into doing their dirty work because they think they are above having to do it for their worthless selves.

    There will be a world that is free of Jewry someday in the near future. Because arrogant, bigoted dickwads always get dealt with sooner or later.

  37. #37 by Druid on November 22, 2009 - 8:56 am

    I’m thinking that this may have something to do with Israel attacking Gaza Sunday, in the early morning hours, and wounding 7-10 Palestinian civilians.

    I heard that Israel is starting a new war not only against Gaza but, sonner than later, in Lebanon, possibly Syria, and maybe even Iran. they’re very dangerous right now, there losing it and they act/attack juste like a rat trapped in a corner.

    Sorry to all the nice rats out there, I like rats, it would be an insut to all the rats in the world if I were to compare them to Jews.

    Druid

  38. #38 by Arabia-Felix on November 22, 2009 - 2:01 pm

    LONG BEACH CALIF,

    Look up my response to you,one more time please.

    Tell me if you see in my response to you ANYTHING about SUFI,NON SUFI or whatever else you want to make the debate about.

    You repeated a PROPOGANDA started by NEOCONS, and i showed you how it has nothing to do with what is written in the Qur’an.

    I didn’t do that by giving you my opinion about that piece,no,
    i SHOWED you what the Qur’an literally says about it.

    Whatever sect you belong to LONG BEACH CALI, there is rule
    in Islam, A STRICT RULE, and that is, any person who claims
    to be a muslim,whichever branch of Islam he/she may belongs to-
    is OBLIGED to take the Qur’an as a WHOLE , COMPLETE,as it is written in Arabic in it’s entirety, NOT as NEOCONS or whoever else translates it in English.

    If my dear LONG BEACH you do not know that much, then you are NOT
    a MUSLIM. That is not my opinion, that is the consensus.

  39. #39 by Arabia-Felix on November 22, 2009 - 2:10 pm

    Jenife,

    I agree, and also being the heads of all scientific institutions
    around the globe,just to steal innovations,not to contribute to it. If the christian world is serious about it,it doesn’t
    take a fortnight to straighten things up.

  40. #40 by Arabia-Felix on November 22, 2009 - 2:56 pm

    Mark,

    LOL, this J*ff guy confused you. Don’t let him.

    I did not say LONG BEACH CALI is “some sort of spy”,
    what is there to spy about?

    I was harsh on him first when he tried to include the debate
    a fellow long gone called RASHAD KHALIFA.

    Any Muslim of any branch of Islam will puke to hear his name.

    That fact is universally known and LONG BEACH CALI was trying to make him as someone who has a relevence to Islam and Muslims.

    That debate i rejected from Long Beach, and told him the
    seriousness of the mistake he is making.

    Rashad Khalifa was jew ,he tried to introduce the art of sorcery
    practiced by Kabbalists called GIMATRIA to Islam.

    I told LONG BEACH , that it is possible some to steal Land and
    the whole wealth of Muslims,but to pollute Islam, and PARTICULARLY the Qur’an is IMPOSSIBLE.

    I explained to him how the Arabic language the Qur’an is written with,and the RECITABILITY of it, doesn’t give a chance to ANYONE else to add a minnutia to it.

    Israelis tried many times, they failed time and again, and, will fail even more if they try again.

    Once Israel printed copies of the Qur’an, mind you, they excluded
    a DOT, and i repeat a DOT, and spread the copies through out Lebanon.. A KID FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS A DOT MISSING,before
    the adults and learned men.

    It is hard to explain in English the word of which they removed
    the DOT from, the WHOLE meaning of the word changed by removing the DOT.

    And of course, you all guessed it right, the Ayah they were trying to change had to do with the characteristics of the jews
    as defined in the Qur’an.

    The secret of the Qur’an is in the sophisticated language it’s written with,it is impossible to play around with.

  41. #41 by Long Beach California on November 22, 2009 - 5:00 pm

    Keep spitting your insults. You act as if your teaching any one anything new. EVERY Muslim knows all that you’ve said. Are you going to teach me what the 5 pillars are next? You explained nothing to me that I did not know. I never said that the Yusuf Ali translation in home or the Roman Transliteration I use get a feel for the words is the ACTUAL QURAN. Forgive me brother, but don’t be stupid. Your accusation are as stupid as me accusing an Orthodox or Catholic Christian who uses Greek/Latin religious terms but doesn’t read the entire Bible in those languages as not being real Christians. Or as stupid as accusing them of pretending to be Greeks and Italians. Your attempts to dismiss everyone not like you is prejudiced and un-Islamic. We, my brother, have been made different so that we may know each other.

  42. #42 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on November 22, 2009 - 5:26 pm

    Good News: On a non related topic, here is a note to pass along:

    For those of you who read about the Muslim woman who was murdered in a German court in the city of Dresden, Justice has been served.

    I just learned through a good friend of mine in Berlin few days ago that the killer of Marwa has been convicted by a German court, found guilty of the murder and was sentenced to jail for life. This vicious animal get what he deserves, since there is no death penalty in the E.U.
    May Marwa’s soul rest in peace!

    –indeed, may she rest in peace, but I must take exception with this being ‘good’ news.

    The bastard who did this should have been executed, and in the same way as he executed her–being stabbed repeatedly and left on the floor bleeding to death. I found it rather interesting that the news coverage of the original story only said he was ‘from Russia’ without mentioning he was a skinhead, a christian or anything else. Generally, anytime they can capitalize on something like this in order to tar someone they do and this time they did not, which tells me he was most probably a Jew.

    Nevertheless, may Marwa indeed rest in peace and may her loved ones find some comfort.

  43. #43 by Seeking Truth on November 22, 2009 - 9:26 pm

    Long Beach Calif.,

    I enjoy reading your posts and to me, you seem genuine and caring for humanity. I hope you continue to post.

    Felix,
    Your rigidity is a turn off for those who wish to understand and learn the truth thru Islam(as well as any decent human being), not to mention that you seem to be intent on promoting the Arabic language and its prominence above everything else (Jews have the same view towards their faith and “race”). I can’t tell if you are real as in a Wahabi (your views are as such) or just a con-artist trying to portray Islam and moslems in a non-conciliatory face.

  44. #44 by Long Beach California on November 22, 2009 - 10:46 pm

    Thank you for your kind words, but I really don’t like people making issues of themselves – myself included.

  45. #45 by Long Beach California on November 22, 2009 - 11:05 pm

    Also, just to be clear before moving on; It was YOU Felix who accused me and other Sufis of “adding and subtracting” from the Quran. You know damn well that there is only one movement in the Muslim world which has the arrogance to alter the Quran and that is Khalifa’s movement – whether you mention him by name or not. Not even the Ahmadhis have the audacity to do such a thing. Dont act like a jew and make a serious slander then refuse to own it. You knew exactly what you were doing by saying that Sufis add and take away from Allah’s ayat. Be man enough to admit it, no Sufi school currently existing is affiliated with either Al Hallaj or Khalifa, which is why your attacks and sneaky insinuations are so jewish in nature. Dont accuse me of adding or taking away from revelation, then say that I’m the one bringing these dajjal into the conversation. I’m done with your nonesense.

  46. #46 by Arabia-Felix on November 23, 2009 - 2:42 am

    SEEKING THE TRUTH,

    Honey, here is the truth you have been seeking,ready–>

    We are NOT “conciliatory” when it comes to Islam.

    Sorry dear, find a conciliatory religion, there must be one,
    “jews for jesus” perhaps.

    Good luck sweety.

  47. #47 by Seeking Truth on November 23, 2009 - 11:34 pm

    Who is “we”?

    Are you claiming ownership to the religion?

    What makes you think your understanding and interpretation is absolute? (sound like a Talmudi Rabbi :D)

    What have you accomplished for humanity’s sake (that is God’s will) with that mindset in the past 1400 yrs.?

    P.S. I ask you stop your sweety thing. What I have is not called a sweety.

  48. #48 by Seeking Truth on November 23, 2009 - 11:43 pm

    btw, you are a fraud. On one had you portray a rigid Wahabi front, on the other hand you call another man “sweety”. Stop being queer — drops your cover.

  49. #49 by Shoko O. on November 24, 2009 - 1:01 am

    Hi!
    I’m from Japan. I read your articles everyday. I’m a big fan of your blog. So,,,

    > , having gotten his ass whipped in every debate that has taken place here recently on the blog has decided to switch gears on the “child molester” thing and instead now claims to have accessed my private credit information.

    Please do not use a swear word. Leave that to R*th but bring yourself down to the same level as him.

  50. #50 by Arabia-Felix on November 24, 2009 - 2:27 am

    Seeking the truth,
    Do you think it is not obvious that you are Ruthy the Bernesteiny.

    –note from me, MG–They are not the same persons. Totally different IP’s from different countries.

  51. #51 by Arabia-Felix on November 24, 2009 - 3:30 am

    Thanks Mark.

    Seeking Truth,

    From the get go, you and the other guy, i knew where you headed.

    Kind of let us get together and have one hug, ONE WORLD RELIGION.

    So fast,so quick, impatiently, you both jumped the guns.

    One was into Rashad Khalifa and Sufi discussions and you
    branches of islam.

    You both took the trouble to know those nonesense but DID NOT
    try to learn Islam itself.

    Sorry guys, i can’t help you, but i can point out your
    mistakes, in a NY minnute.

    You are missing one thing Long beach, and that is, regardless
    of the branch of Islam one takes, there is a FUNDMENTAL that
    none of the branches can violate ,and that is the QUR’AN. Period.

  52. #52 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on November 24, 2009 - 5:13 am

    Shoko O wrote,

    Hi!
    I’m from Japan. I read your articles everyday. I’m a big fan of your blog.

    Welcome aboard, and glad to have you.
    When the news is depressing and the same as usual, I too turn to the Ugly Truth for answer. I think you testimony illustrate the impact of the this site and its far reaching effect.

    Hope will see more of you posts, contributions,comments, and feedback.

    BTW, I am not the spoke person of this site. Just one of the guards

  53. #53 by AHMED K on November 24, 2009 - 12:55 pm

    Arabia-Felix

    “All Praises are due to Allah, Lord of the Worlds.
    the most Beneficient the most Merciful.
    Master of the Day of Judgement.
    Thee alone do we worship,Thee alone do we ask for help.
    show us the straight path, the path of those whom You favoured.
    NOT THE PATH OF THOSE WHO EARNED YOUR WRATH,
    NOR THOSE WHO HAVE GONE ASTRAY.’

    When Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w), was asked who were those who earned the wrath of God, He said they were the JEWS,
    and those gone astray were the Christians.

  54. #54 by Arabia-Felix on November 24, 2009 - 5:56 pm

    AHMADK,

    He absolutely said that.Peace be upon him.

  55. #55 by Long Beach California on November 24, 2009 - 11:16 pm

    Don’t presume to educate me on anything felix. I know the primacy of the Quran. So, do believe that women should be executed for adultery? The Quran says 100 lashes, hadith says death. This SUNNI violation of the Quran is justified with another(!) hadith that says a goat ate a verse prescribing death for adultery. This second hadith is even more a violation because it directly challenges Allah’s promise to safeguard the Quran from corruption. Don’t tell me who lacks one thing – it is you!

  56. #56 by AHMED K on November 25, 2009 - 10:01 am

    Long Beach

    The Quraan takes precedence.
    If it says 100 lashes , then it is 100 lashes.

    The Quraan is complete, unaltered , exactly the same as it was when revealed.

  57. #57 by Long Beach California on November 25, 2009 - 6:06 pm

    I never denied that.

  58. #58 by Arabia-Felix on November 26, 2009 - 4:32 pm

    No you don’t know anything about the Qur’an long beach.

    Evidence is in what you wrote above,that “women” are to be stoned
    for adultry. What about men??.

    You don’t know do you?? And you want to speak for the Qur’an.

    Regarding your Rumi piece and how you and username SEEK THE TRUTH are “one” with GOD, i responded to that on the other thread, somehow MARK didn’t like it and was not published.

    I don’t know if it is due to a name i called to “maddame” Blavatesky or the whole idea of criticising NEW AGERS is not
    allowed.

    Whichever the case, i respect his decisin,it is his site after
    all and i am a guest on it.

    LONG BEACH, there is no place for new agism in Islam; don’t
    tire yourself.

  59. #59 by Long Beach California on November 26, 2009 - 5:21 pm

    Still not responding to any direct replies I see. I swear felix you are just like a jew, even if your an Arab. You just shift from one lie or distraction to the next. First you accused me of being a Satanic jew, then a spy, then of being someone else with a different name, then of being a fake Muslim, and now I’m a new-ager? Every time I disprove one of your falsehoods about me of the Sufi schools, you just invent another one. Is it because you just want to have the last word?

    As for your more recent accusations, yes, I do want a new age- one of Islamic wisdom instead of ignorance. And I do want a one-world religion, that of Islam. I am not ashamed of these desires and EVERY Muslim should want the same.

  60. #60 by Arabia-Felix on November 26, 2009 - 8:45 pm

    Whoever you are, i care less about Long beach, i know my
    response to you and the to the other guy on the other thread,
    where you both were ONE with God was censored,therefore i have no choice but to think criticising New agism is not allowed here on the ugly truth.

    Had you admited what you admitted in your last comment LONG AGO,
    had you said that you are what i CORRECTLY saw you are,-
    a NEW AGER,you were going to save time and energy for me.

    As of you thinking that “muslims should want the same as you”, actually EVERY muslim that is,as you put it; well,isay to that.. DRINK FROM the RED SEA.

  61. #61 by Arabia-Felix on November 26, 2009 - 10:35 pm

    When did goats start eating LEATHER and STONE??!.

    This guy and his double are the strangest new-agers i have ever
    come acrros with.

    “Goat ate a verse”,Hahhaaaa.

    And you are allowed to write every worthless text as you please,
    and i am censored in identifying “maddame” Blavetesky!!.

    I am done posting.

  62. #62 by Arabia-Felix on November 26, 2009 - 10:48 pm

    And finally,even if the goats quit eating grass and start eating
    Leather and stone, i repeat to you what i have told you previously.

    It’s name is QUR’AN, arabic for RECITABLE.

    It is NOT called TEXTABLE.

    No matter what is texted, goats or not, what counts is what
    the HEART RECITES.

    And as i said to you before, a KID can recite it by heart,
    in it’s ENTIRETY,sunni or shi’ite kid.

    Save yourself some energy and Good bye.

  63. #63 by Long Beach California on November 27, 2009 - 4:55 pm

    I loved that Rumi quote from Gulag, regardless of his beliefs. As for the goat hadith, look it up yourself in Sahi Bukhari or Sahi Muslim. I don’t care if a ten year old can recite a book he cannot fully understand. I’ve seen Indonesian children on the internet recite the Quran even thought they don’t speak Arabic. Recital is more than just correct sounds. But then again, I don’t speak and read fluent Arabic, so I guess I’m not allowed an opinion on anything related to my own faith. You seem more interested in worshipping your own language and ethnic culture than God Allah (swt).

    As a final note, no-one is saying that “they” are God. If you have honestly never loved your wife or children so passionately that you lost all sense of self within them or done salat with such intimacy before your creator that the whole of life, creation, and you yourself cease to exist, then I truly do feel sorry for you. No person is God or is one with god in a literal sense and you know that. Don’t pretend to not understand the subtleties of language when you obviously know a great deal about languages. Also, if I’m the liar – THEN WHY ARE YOU pretending to be an Arab from “AN Ancient Land” when earlier you admitted to being from East Germany. You have been found out! Maybe that’s why you crying censorship – so you can have an excuse to run from your accusations.

  64. #64 by Arabia-Felix on November 27, 2009 - 9:32 pm

    East Germany??!.

    What are you talking about?. You always confuse the debate.

    Ok Long beach, Mark still owns the website,he can tell you he did censor me,and i am not going to try to write a rebuttal against the NEW AGE religion again without having Mark’s approval,it is his website and i respect his decision.

    Anyhow, Censor or not, you have to know you can not understand A PUSHKIN peotry without understanding russian language FLUENTLY.

    There is nothing Xenophobic about that, it is just the way it is.

    Cheers Long beach.

    No harm intended from side, i must though correct people who post misinformation about what i know best,ie Islam.

  65. #65 by Long Beach California on November 28, 2009 - 3:15 am

    You said that where you grew up under East German control and that “everyone knew that Hitler was a jew” and that “it wasn’t an issue until you arrived in the west”. Your words not mine. I also never said that my views have authority. These are my OPINIONS. They are not facts that have the authority of one who has spent a lifetime in the deen and has studied every aspect of its law, application, and entire texts. I never said that they were. I don’t condemn any Muslim for disagreeing with me – but I AM allowed to form my own opinions based on what I’ve learned from the Muslims around me, their Masjid sheiks, and my own reading. My views on the Quran are not tafsir, because I have no authority – they are informed by the views of the Muslims I know, my own readings, and talks I’ve personally had with the sheiks of several Masjids in SoCal. In the spirit of Eid al Adha and the Thanksgiving holiday, I will take back my accusation, but I still refute yours!
    Asalamu’alaikum wa Eid Mubarak.

  66. #66 by Arabia-Felix on November 28, 2009 - 8:45 pm

    East German control of my country,not in theirs.

    Your opinions are YOURS ALONE, you have every right to keep them.

    New age-ism is not Islam,it is NEW AGE-ISM,period.

  67. #67 by Lomg Beach California on November 29, 2009 - 12:13 am

    There never were any Arab nations under East German control!! Also, you can call me names like new-age all you want, that doesn’t make it true and repeating it wont either. Also, the Wahabi/Salafi perversion of the Hanbali fiq that many say is the “true deen” is an incredibly recent British-zionist innovation, and not Islam. Period.

    PS: when did I ever assert that my opinions were anything but my opinions?

  68. #68 by Arabia-Felix on November 29, 2009 - 6:27 am

    Long Beach,

    If you don’t know, JUST ASK.

    My country was The ONLY COMMUNIS ARAB country.

    Under the Russian empire. Only freed after the collapse of the soviet union by a rag tag malitia called the Arab Afghans, later
    after the fall out with U.S named Al-Qaida.

    East Germany was the ENGINE that drove the soviet Empire,
    they were every where the soviets occupied.

    Kindly LONG BEACH, without prejedice, i advice you FIRST to know
    what you are talking about before you jump into conclusion.

    No, i have not seen you talking about Islam, i have seen you talking Islam ala NEOCON and NEW AGE stuff .

  69. #69 by Long Beach California on November 29, 2009 - 3:26 pm

    If you say that East Germany was in your nation and and the force behind Russian communism then I’ll take your word for it, but you have to admit that to most outsiders it would look like Russian occupation, not German. Also, I already said that name calling doesn’t make an accusation true. The new age accusation is one thing but Neo-Con is uncalled for. Neo-con is a violent jew ideology of violence. I’m neither. Your really tempting my brotherly patience so this will be my last post on this thread. Feel free to make up more lies and accusations as you immaturely seek the last word. I for one wont read anything else you have to say on the topic.

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