Reason #666 I have Come To Despise the “Christian Right” In America


I’ll admit it–I can’t stand them. Never thought the day would come, given the fact that I am (A) a Christian and (B) as right-wing as you can get, but it has nonetheless.

I guess that makes me a “Self-hating Christian” or something like that? I don’t know.

In my own defense however, take a gander at the picture above of the billboard along a highway in Missouri. It replaced one before it warning that the “Communist-Socialist Obama-Nation” is “coming for you”. In poorly-disguised tones, the new one is advocating going to war against the government.

Don’t get me wrong. I happen to agree with Jefferson who said the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with revolution. Revolution– especially when evil becomes the dominant power–is not just a good thing, but a necessary thing.

It’s the stupidity-saturated hypocrisy I can’t stand. Where was this fervor, patriotism and love of country during 8 years of “Dubbya”? Where was this fear of a tyrannical government and it’s over-reaching powers threatening to rob Americans of their God-given rights when the “former” alcoholic/drug addict was stinking the place up with his policies, all of which carried  kosher stamp on them reading “Made In Israel“? Where was this concern over us “keeping our money” and “starving the beast” when he allowed spies from Israel to yank his chain in getting 2 wars started that have now bankrupted this nation? Anybody from the Christian right biting their nails anxiously during 8 years of war under GB when all this was taking place, right under their very noses?

Heavens-to-Betsy, no. That was ‘good’ use of taxpayers’ money, invading and destroying 2 countries that never attacked America, killing close to 2 million, creating 4 million refugees and polluting the air, land and water in the region for the next 4 billion years with thousands of tons of highly-radioactive depleted uranium. Being “spied” upon by the government was necessary then, because there were “terrists” comin’ to “getcha” and a whole lot more…

I knew something didn’t smell right when I went to church recently (after having spent quite a bit of time avoiding the place) and noticed the mood had changed from apathetical to maniacal. By the amount of frantic political talk taking place–both from the pulpit and within the pews–you’d have thought that Old Scratch himself had just taken up residence at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Mind you, these were the same people–sheppard and flock alike–who simply reacted to any previous discussions concerning the political health of the country under the  Bush presidency from concerned citizens such as yours truly with barely-polite blank stares and responses that carried the unmistakable aroma of “BFD” all over them.

And then, all the sudden, literally in the span of just a few hours, instead of one white-skinned ‘right-wing’ lunatic being replaced with his twin, the country turns ‘Demicrat’ and America is going to hell in a handbasket. One day the face of God–smiling on America as it were–turns into a cosmic frown and a dark moral cloud descends upon the country like never before and threatening to destroy everything. Now it’s high-time for “Annie, git yur gun’ and to start blowin’ the place up as if we were the great great grandkids of men such as Sammy Adams, Ethan Allen and the rest.

“God is grievously offended” they tell us. “A militantly pro-abortion/anti ‘family values’ president with lax moral standards has taken the wheel and NOW is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country…”

“Family values“…How perfectly nauseating.

Not a peep from them when Bush destroyed Iraq and as part of the ‘reconstruction’ process opened abortion clinics in every locale. Dittos with bringing hardcore pornography to the local theaters in the interests of breaking down the moral cohesion of that nation or of forcing recently-made widows–many of them mothers with small children–to turn to prostitution so they could feed their children in a country devastated by George Bush’s war. How about the “family values” practiced at Abu Ghraib when American GIs (working in tandem with Israel’s Mossad) were sodomizing Iraqi males as young as 12 and filming it? Have they seen the pictures of the children born to Iraqi and Afghani mothers with heads the size of pumpkins and eyes the size of tennis balls and with their guts born outside their bodies as a result of having been conceived and gestated inside a radioactive womb, courtesy of Uncle Sam and Old Aunt Israel? As they decry the slaughter of the unborn (as all humane persons should) are there any tears to cry for THESE children? Were they crapping their collective pants over the loss of our civil rights when abominations such as the Patriot Act were being passed under the direction of Zionist lobby groups and when Muslims were being denied their rights under the artificially-induced Islamo-phobia of the ‘W’ years?

We all know the answers to these questions, so there is no need to go through the rigmarole. As if their gag-reflexes had been surgically-removed during the Bush years and then reversed the night Obama became president, members of the ‘Christian” right have now suddenly ‘found Jesus’ again and see monsters everywhere that differ from the previous ones only in their party affiliation.

And yet, they wonder why Christianity and conservative values “get no respect” these days when folks such as these carry on in such contradictory, hypocritical ways…Have they not considered the old line from their heavenly commander in chief that “whatsoever you sow also shall you reap” and that “those who live by the sword shall die by the sword” and when–before being taken off and murdered by the very same Zionistas for whom the Christian right finds itself so willing to go to war today–He asked out loud whether there would be “any faith” left on earth when He returned?

Hell, after watching the last 9 years I don’t wonder why Christians are so hated these days, but rather why they’re not hated more.

© 2009 Mark Glenn

nomorewarsforisrael@gmail.com

  1. #1 by bulletinman on November 27, 2009 - 11:22 pm

    Mark I’m right there with you. The devil has control of most churches and for a long time.There is no discernment in modern day America. We are in trouble that is for sure.

  2. #2 by Gene on November 27, 2009 - 11:55 pm

    Yes they were doing nothing because they were told to turn the other cheek by the bully pulpit for years lifetimes actually. I told everyone on the day it was a joke and we should not go to war for anything till we know who the culprit-enemy was or to help clean up the mess it is still a crime scene but they did as the old mother circi told them and they still support IS RA HELL to this day! But think of yourself as a white blood cell coming in for the clean up just try to stay alive! And prepare for what comes these people are insane and have been for all their lives!

  3. #3 by Frusrated Christian on November 28, 2009 - 12:14 am

    Mark,

    Does your bag of brilliant observations have any chance of being empty? I think not.

    Like I said before, our sheepdog is pretty intent on chasing off the wolves. Moreover he is pretty fair at spotting infected sheep and separating from from infecting the healthy sheep.

    Cry aloud and spare not, St. Mark.

    Come on everyone, all together, now, sing along:

    “Who’s afraid of the big bad wolves, big bad wolves, big bad wolves…”

    Not me, not with the sheep dog the Good Shepard left to guard the flock until he returns. -He bites wolves, and sheep with mad sheep disease that think the wolves love them.

  4. #4 by Ron on November 28, 2009 - 12:16 am

    I am at a loss for words on this one Mark. I will only try.
    For almost forty years I have attended church somewhere, and
    acutally was a part of the worship team in a couple. I kept
    myself as close to God as possible because I knew full well that
    I would not have survived the torpedo attack on the USS Liberty,
    the napalm, the shelling from fifty caliber machine guns and
    rocket fire without God being right there with me. The intention
    of the IDF was to put us to the bottom with all hands aboard.
    For years I sat in a church somewhere thanking God for my life,
    then I decided that it must be time to give my testimony. I
    wondered what their reaction would be when I told them who had
    attacked this American ship. The reaction was as I thought it
    would be. Push me out of the church gently, and if that doesn’t
    work use a little more force. That happened to me in at least
    three of them that I can think of. The look was always the same,
    and the talk was pretty much the same. They would ask how I could say such a thing, and when I would tell them it was the truth as I know it, then they would begin to push me out the door. How do I feel about a right wing church? I think it goes
    without saying. I am very careful what church I walk through the door of, especially this day and age.

  5. #5 by Tony on November 28, 2009 - 12:20 am

    A perfect definition of “double standard” if there ever was one!
    Those tea party jerks that cry afoul about spending tax payer money on healthcare, but never a peep with war spending or foreign-aid.

    I say, start a war tax, where everyone has to pay their share. Then maybe more people will be against these wars for Israel.

    Tony

  6. #6 by Robertvnik on November 28, 2009 - 12:52 am

    Mark you have my full agreement here.
    Remember the saying; ‘All it takes for evil men to prosper is that good men do nothing’. But sometimes I think it should be added; ‘If good men do nothing then they aint so good after all’.
    Our so called christian society is a reflection of apathy and ignorance. Apathy is definitly our fault and ignorance is fed by it. Sometimes I also think; ‘well if most people dont care for the truth then they deserve all the evil about to overtake them so why should I bother even trying to warn them’
    Of course real love if one has it promps us to keep on trying. Good on you and guys like you who keep trying, even though ‘they’ will one day come a lookin for ya, and silence you one way or another.
    I got to add though; It is doubtful that so called christianity is the only place where one finds contradiction and hipocracy. Friends of mine living in Arabian Emirates see the same hypocracy and callousness toward their fellow man(specially women) amongst the wealthy muslims there. Also amongst christianity there are genuine gems to be found, people who are indeed worthy of our respect. There have always been christians who are the salt of the earth.

  7. #7 by Jenifer on November 28, 2009 - 1:42 am

    As far as I can tell we have become a nation of bizarre cultists. Whether it’s the lunatics waiting for Jasus or those waiting for the aliens-are they coming together to save cabfare?- one way or another you have to belong to some freak idiotology that gives you a formula to deal with what, I believe, is intended, indeed cultivated chaos and hysteria.

    The “mainstream churches” are so wimped out and controlled that they might just as well drop the pretension of being Christian at all. Actual Christianity seems to have disappeared altogether.

  8. #8 by Long Beach California on November 28, 2009 - 3:39 am

    The death of true Christian culture is one of the few things the jews can claim to have accomplished without the use of other people’s soldiers, resources, or ideas.

    Obama IS anti-Christ because he is aligned with the money-changers. We should never let the anti-Christ who preceded him be a distraction from that fact.

    Satanism (the heart of esoteric judaism) is the religion of most Westerners, many in my own family sadly being included. The heart of satanic thought lies in idolatry, whether its worship of money, self, race, or of an evil group of people and their idolatrous nation. The atheism that pervades most former communist nations is satanism in that it worships the state and its false prophets, whereas post-modern liberal atheism is based on the worship of oneself as “The captain of my soul and master of my destiny”. Even the modern Church of Satan, founded by the jew Anthony Levy (aka Anton La Vey), doesn’t believe in a physical satan but sees the devil as an ideal to aspire towards. Seriously, it’s sick stuff.

  9. #9 by GJ Tryon on November 28, 2009 - 3:50 am

    I hate to inject a sectarian note here, but quite honestly there are Christians and then there are Christians. The Catholic Church has its faults, but it did -quite singularly and courageously- defy the US when it went to war in Iraq. Never mind that some of the US Bishops soft-pedaled the Vatican’s opposition to the war out of deference to “patriotic feeling,” the Pope and his successor made clear to Bush that Iraq was not a just war. On another note: it’s absolutely futile to invoke considerations of moral consistency or even logic to the branch of Christendom known as “born-again” Evangelicalism. These people are quite avowedly not interested in “works” i.e., active, constructive morality, just in their own private salvation. They know who’s been “saved” – them and theirs- and who’s been cast out- all the rest of us, so no pint in trying to appeal to their conscience – that’s the voice of Satan.

  10. #10 by Ray Goodwin on November 28, 2009 - 4:12 am

    Very refreshing column, Mark, and to all who have commented so far, thanks for your words – very enjoyable reading. It is nice to know that there are still a few THINKERS out there who give affirmation to others!
    Many years ago, I was among the deluded sheep. I guess we all were. It is a stage of learning that we must go through. Yep, I remember writing those “right wing” letters to the local paper, never failing to mention our “Judeo-Christian heritage” to make my letter seem more appealing and all-inclusive! Then one day, thank goodness, a fellow called me and asked to meet and talk. We did. It was the beginning of my real awakening where the Church, Christianity, and the Jews are concerned. As blind as I was at the time, God must have had a plan for me, as he gave me an open mind and a willingness to listen and a desire to read and learn. Most reading these words will recognize themselves in them, I’m certain. Over the years, the knowledge has grown, and is even tempered with a little wisdom now and then!
    As I’ve said before, Dorothy discovered in Oz a people frightened of their own shadows. There was this booming voice from the heavens that kept them in line, and in fear. But little Dorothy, not knowing any better, made her way to the source of this awesomely frightening voice, despite all the obstacles in her path. She bravely pulled back that curtain to reveal – NOT a GOD – but a little old man with a megaphone! The spell was broken and the kingdom freed to think for themselves!!
    There are numerous “Dorothy’s” out there today, and Mark Glenn is one of them, as are most of you. Though it often times seems fruitless and hopeless to keep trying, we plug along anyway because that is how we are made. There is that little flame of light and passion within that keeps us from giving up, that keeps within us a hope, regardless of how SLIM that hope might be. Something inside us tells us that the pendelum WILL one day stop, and start swinging the other way. The criminals, deceivers, liars and thieves will get their comeuppance, and when they do, it will be because of the efforts of people like Mark, Phil Tourney, Mike Piper, Fredrik Toben, Lady Michelle Renouf, Ernst Zundel, Manfred Roeder, and so many more.
    Hand in there, baby. We ain’t gonna be playing defense all the time forever. It’s gonna be OUR turn to carry the ball some day. Keep those cards and letters coming!!
    Ray Goodwin

  11. #11 by Ferd on November 28, 2009 - 4:12 am

    I think generally, most people in the US are good people. It is the mainstream media that is at fault per the dysfunction of the collective psyche of America. The MSM has co-opted, even the Church as the “shepherd” and the “conscience” of the people with horrible consequences. I believe most people in the States, if they have been fed the truth about israel and what is really happening in the Middle East would immediately demand from their gov’t all stoppage of aid to israel. even pastors and priests are zionists because of the influence of the MSM. as David Icke said, the TV is the greatest hypnotist in the world. it can convince you that war is peace (we need to invade iraq because if not we would face the terrorists on American soil), evil is good (vaccines for the H1N1 flu are good for you). if they have been fed the truth, most of those politicians would have their asses owned (pun intended) by prison toughies by now. it would be really, really difficult to wake up the masses since most of them get their info and entertainment on TV and most of them don’t have time to browse the Web because of what little time they have for themselves. yes some are waking up but a lot are still asleep and some are even in a deep coma.

  12. #12 by Anti-Evil AKA Pro-Justice on November 28, 2009 - 4:25 am

    You must know that there are virtually no Muslim countries, save maybe Iran.

    They are all puppet states serving the great satan (well, just one great satan. The other 2 being Britain and israel).

    Wahabism is a product of the British ‘divide and conquer’ strategy. (among other things, history becomes incredible when you start to read about What Actually Happened)

    There are no REAL terrorists in this world, only “intelligence agencies” (evil filth).

    Justice always brings peace… but since it’s very rarely practiced, you can see why the world is what it is…

    Hang every single son of a satanic bitch who start all these fake wars (every so-called journalist, every so-called representative of the public, every motherhater who helped)… then you’ll quickly see how much of a paradise this world can be… But you and i know people never cared about justice… they always killed God’s prophets.

    So it is today as it has always been.

  13. #13 by RickB on November 28, 2009 - 5:05 am

    I thought we couldn’t get dumber than Reagan but then along came the village idiot. And you think that’s the worst it can get? Look for Barbie Doll “Christian” President in 2012. When our presidents have to be zionist puppets, this is what we get.

    And the dumbed down, dumber-than-dirt Judeo Christians [anti-Christ Christians] will absolutely love her.

  14. #14 by Sam on November 28, 2009 - 5:16 am

    There is no doubt in my mind that the Zionists have infiltrated some of the Western churches. They even rose to the ranks of bishops. They’ve perverted Christianity. All this evil was the fruit of the work of a convicted crook named Cyrus I Scofiled, a bent lawyer who supposedly found God while serving a term in jail, who on completion of his sentence was commissioned by the Rothschilds to produce an intentionally perverted intepretation of the Christian Bible culminating in the production of Scofield Reference Bilble which was widely distributed to all Christian theological colleges.
    For more information about Scofield and his blasphemous work which continued even from beyond the grave, go to:

    http://whtt.org/index.php?news=2&id=1233

    http://whtt.org/index.php?news=2&id=2639

    http://www.whtt.org/articles/020807.htm

    http://whtt.org/index.php?news=2&id=1692

  15. #15 by Baath Vader on November 28, 2009 - 6:10 am

    Being a whimsical soul, I’ve always believed in God. But I had well and truly stopped believing in the church by the time I was in my mid teens, having seen too much evidence while growing up that the church has little, if anything, in common with God. The God I believe in is the one which is an obvious and integral part of every young child.

    Divorcing the church was very easy once I realised that one’s “religion” is determined by others before one is old enough to make an informed choice. Apart from reflecting undue, if not obscene, haste such behaviour conforms with the classic Trade Practices definition of Taking Advantage – something churches do with predictable and monotonous regularity.

    Btw, many years ago a colleague was dealing with an architect who regularly attended business meetings at the Head Office of a well-known second string church. The architect told him that it was standard practice – and a standing joke – that the church hierarchy referred to the congregation as “The Flock” and often exchanged subtle smirks and knowing glances when doing so.
    True story.

  16. #16 by Doug on November 28, 2009 - 6:18 am

    Humanity is a complete abject failure. We have all fallen short of the glory of GOD. Blow it all up. To hell with them all. All religion is man made and concieved. They all have it wrong.
    We are in the same trouble we always cause for ourselves. GOD is in us all. We just can’t shut up long enough to become the reflection of GOD on earth. If we all did that tomorrow, we would have peace and prosperity tomorrow. That ain’t gonna happen though because, MY GOD”S BETTER THAN YOUR GOD, MY GOD”S BETTER THAN YOUR GOD…NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA!
    So even if you don’t think Jesus was GOD come down to walk among man and to suffer the evil of this world, we still misunderstand what he had to say. That’s not his fault, it’s ours. A lot of great minds have tried to tell us. We just can’t stay focused on it long enough to make it happen. As far as the Christian Zionist, Christian Right, just more useful IDIOTS. If they want to attack, we’ll have something more exciting than Monday Night Football to watch. More like Gladiator Sports. I’m making a shopping list now…let’s see…Orvile Redenbachers…Perrier…
    Hey this could be a great Reality Show…Amelek Survivor.
    Thousands of Amelek warriors chased across the Great Plains of Amerika by Apache Choppers and machine gun mounted Humvees. This weeks episode askes the question; Should Nick and Darleen try to cut north across the Canadian border so they can start a new life in Zionist occupied Canada, or, should they just stay and fight to their certain death?

  17. #17 by kenken on November 28, 2009 - 9:05 am

    It is very sad. I do not understand how it can be “Very refreshing column, and.. very enjoyable reading” as one Responser said on this post!

    How can reading sutch painful reality be refreshing, and enjoyable, let alone “very”

    I hope I miss understood, but if not, and we should enjoy and get refreshed reading this article, and the too many like it around the net, as entertainment, then we should not blame anybody elss but ourselves.

  18. #18 by Xanadu on November 28, 2009 - 9:31 am

    Tony November 28, 2009 at 12:20 am

    I say, start a war tax, where everyone has to pay their share. Then maybe more people will be against these wars for Israel.

    Unfortunately the idea that America and Israel are two entirely different nations with different cultures and religions is gradually being eroded. American culture has now been almost entirely replaced with Jewish culture.

    Witness Hollywood, run by eight studios all headed by Jews, which has helped to embed “Jewish values” in the minds of the masses. Witness TV, where every expert on every subject (including torture) is a Jew. Witness literature, where every second novel you see on the stands is written by a guy with a name like “Kellerman”.

    As for Christianity, can’t you see that’s gradually being replaced by the new Jewish religion — Holocaustanity?

    Synagogues receive taxpayers’ money to keep in business. Churches don’t.

    Holocaust museums are springing up everywhere like mushrooms, all built with taxpayers’ money.

    Schools have compulsory lessons ramming the Holcaust down childens’ throats.

    Christmas is approaching, and throughout the land you see its proper celebration being banned or ridiculed.

    Christmas trees are banned in public squares and shopping malls — and this in a Christian country! — because the Jews have epileptic fits every time they see a Christmas tree!

    In a school known to me personally, the kids in drawing class were recently forbidden to draw Christmas trees (“evil”), but were told to draw menorahs instead.

    The end draws nigh!

    Concentration camps for the goyim?

    You better believe it.

  19. #19 by Xanadu on November 28, 2009 - 9:39 am

    The 60 million Christian Zionists have become “Jewified” in every way. To all intents and purposes, they ARE Jews.

    Many quotes exist — I don’t have them at hand, but they exist — showing that Israel is actually DEARER to the hearts of these Christian Zionists than America is. They would rather die for Israel than America.

    Some of these guys are actually volunteering to join the IDF rather than the American army.

    If offered Israeli citizenship, they would accept it gladly and hand in their American passports at once.

    Nothing would please them more than to be given a nice new house, with a swimming pool, somewhere in an Israeli settlement in the West Bank — and then spend the rest of their days pursuing their favorite hobby: using Palestinians as target practice.

    Take a look at this cartoon, sent in earlier by Montecristo. It’s hilarious.

  20. #20 by Jalid on November 28, 2009 - 3:02 pm

    Hi I am a Palestinian writing from Venezuela who CANT find a front open anywhere near Palestine.
    There are no war fronts OPEN at this time.
    Not even if you got to gaza.
    Not even if you closed your eyes and IMAGINED one.
    If any one can point to one it will be appreciated.
    So, due to proximity I would like to offer my life in honour of defending true christian patriotic Americans fight the Jew.
    I think i can wetback my way thru Mejico.
    Any time.
    On another note I would like to emphasize on my believe that the world will be a better place WITHOUT the Jew scum bags and their friends the Crypto.
    Viva Zapata!

  21. #21 by Lomg Beach California on November 28, 2009 - 3:20 pm

    I would like to thank Ray Goodwin for his beautiful sentiments, in which I truly did find myself. I remember back that even as an “anti-semite” I still would never dare say anything unkind about israel and thought that its critics – or even critics of its lobby- were neo-Nazis/”Islamofascists” with a hidden agenda. Yes, it is a small but resilient flame we keep burning in the midst of this long jewish winter.

    I also thank Anti-Evil for his knoweldge. Indeed Iran is closer to true Islam than any other nation I know of. Following the family of the prophets(peace be upon them all) is always a good idea. No one else has more love for the prophets(p) and more dedication to the truth of their mission.If the jews had listened to the true patriarchs/prophets and their families instead of Uzair and the first zionists, Judaism would still exist instead of the satanism that currently calls itself judaism. If the Christians had followed the Blessed Virgin Mary as well as St.s James, Jude and the Didache- Christianity would still exists as an uncompromised monotheism. That is not a knock on Christians, just history. I love Isa, Miryam, and all his physical brothers and sisters mentioned in the New Testament. The Christianity of Christ’s family was preserved in the isolated hills of Syria until the time of Islam, just as the remnant of the Redeemed Kingdom of Israel was preserved in the hills of the Hindu Kush until the time of Islam. The companions (sahaba) of all prophets(p) are respected, but their words and ideas and writings should never become a part of the religion that they themselves have received from Allah. To do so is to invent an innovation against the Most High.

  22. #22 by Jalid on November 28, 2009 - 3:49 pm

    I sent the previous post in response to a lady by the name of Darkmoon who a few days ago verbally abused me in a previous thread by saying this..

    “But may I ask you, Mr Palestine, why you are not in your own country, fighting bravely for the liberation of your people? Like a coward, you skulk in Venezuela, far away from the fighting and the dying. Why are you hiding in South America if you so brave, you pathetic coward? Why don’t you go back and fight for your people instead of frothing at the mouth like a nutcase in Venezuela and calling for the mass extermination of the Jews? Stupid fool, you deserve nothing but contempt”

    I know who it is. As this person, Darkmoon has been banned from several other places for her sickening up and down attitude.
    Bipolar woman, get a man.!

  23. #23 by Fr. John on November 28, 2009 - 5:24 pm

    Bravo.

    A large part of the problem with ‘Amurrican Xianity’ is stupidity, aided by false theology, i.e., Dispensationalism; and lastly, a desire to avoid holiness.

    The first is the heresy that ‘all hominids are created equal.’ They’re not. The second is that the intellectually impaired believe, due to Scofield et al., that somehow, there are ‘two’ Peoples of God. There aren’t. It’s the Church, solely.

    Thirdly, that the Church (even if we see it as comprising both [sic] Jew and [true] Greek) is the religious equivalent of Consumerist Capitalism. It isn’t that, either.

    http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2009/11/28/teaching-old-dogs/

    If we buy on command (yesterday was ‘Black Friday’ – did YOU shop, simply because THEY said so?) and debase our currency, and then wonder why a mulatto marxist can rule the ‘sheeple,’ is it any wonder, we DON’T want to be a nation that is ‘One’ as well as ‘Holy unto the Lord’?

    For those who know who the Deicides are, and who know what purity in thought, word, AND deed are all about, you’d be VERY welcome in MY church!

    Sadly, Mr. Tryon is mistaken when it comes to the RC’s as well, however.
    As Fr. Seraphim Rose noted (prophetically) ‘In the End, all the Churches will serve Antichrist.’ I think Rome is fulfilling that mission -with a vengeance.

    http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2008/02/19/something-wicked-this-way-comes-1/

    ( just the first of 22 posts in that series)

    But, never fear. Christ is risen, He has conquered. And He will not leave His Faithful people, the “Israel of God.’ [Gal. 6:16] As for the rest of ‘Xianity,’ it’s anyone’s guess…..

  24. #24 by Lomg Beach California on November 28, 2009 - 5:49 pm

    Peace Jalid. I love your comments brother! If that idiot REALLY knew the demonic depths of jewish behvior in even the most mundane of daily tasks, see would go half way around the globe to be rid of them. Inshallah, Chavez will help to make Venezuela the first anit-zionist nation in the West. He is currently sending a cold chill down the spine of Guatemala’s jew dictator presidente Berger and the Honduran murrano-elites. Isreal has used Central, and even South, America as a dumping ground for its arms industry and mercenaries for far too long. Darkmoon’s silly insistence that we not wish on those bleeding us (Muslims&the West) to death is beyond suicidal. If she is stupid enough to believe that there are mosiquitoes that wont suck your blood, then that’s her foolishness to deal with.

    For anyone who thinks the above sentiment is an example of universal hatred, then good for you!! Reward yourself with a cookie, genius! I “hate all jews because” because judaism is satanism – not a race of people. Those upright human beings like Israel Shahak, Ilan Pappe, Israel Shamir, Norm Finklestein, Ariel Toaff, Shlomo Sands and the blogger at desertpeace, are upright human beings precisely because of their rejection of judaism not not inspite of it. These people have seen the evil that wants their lives, souls, and cooperation in the conspiracy that is judaism and said NO! not me. Ethnic jews dont exist. There are ethnic Spaniards(sepharcis), Georgians (ashkenazi), Indians (beni israel), Ethiopians (falasha), Arabs (mizrahi), Turks (masonic secularists), Poles, Hungarians, Russians, and Germans (all varieties of ashkenazim) who think that their mutual evil has turned turned them into a racially and culturally coherent people. It hasn’t.

    One of the saddest examples of this is the turning of the Ethiopian and Indian jews away from the Torah, peaceful neighborliness, and assimilation towards the satanic state of israel. The cruel irony is that these “dark jews” are just as despised and discriminated against by that satanic state which claims to be their “homeland” as any Palestinian.

  25. #25 by Bill in Ohio on November 28, 2009 - 6:23 pm

    Theyre Not Christians, Mark.

    They are Judeo Christians.

    In other words Judaized Christian dupes, who falsely believe that Christ was a Jew.

    There’s no cure for stupid. Not in this day of cyber space, today.

    Carry on and keep writing, really enjoy your work.

    Peace,
    Bill, aka Your Brother in Law

  26. #26 by Lomg Beach California on November 28, 2009 - 6:33 pm

    Fr. John,
    I don’t share your views but find them interesting. I’ve often wondered if it would be possible to build world peace on the basis of mutual distrust and/or dislike between small-scale culturally homogeneous societies instead of forcing us all to “tolerate each other to death!” I think that if people were free to be left alone, the world would know peace. I bring no racial, religious, or cultural prejudice (that I’m aware of) in to this consideration. I just think that if globalism, resource theft, “free” trade, and open immigration policies weren’t forced on people, than we would have no reasons to not like each other. What, may I ask, do you consider the rightful place of non-white “hominids” to be? This not baiting jew-style question, I really am curious. Did the Natives of these two continents not deserve the same right to be left alone which you seek from the jews? I wont bring up the whole slavery issue because it is now a well known fact that nearly 100% of slaves were sold in to slavery by their own kings, witch doctors, and neighboring tribes who sold them to the almost completely jew-dominated transatlantic slave trade. But the Native issue still remains – what exactly was so Christ like in the conquest of these hemispheric nations? I would agree on the need to over throw the Meso-American empires, but it was mostly other Indians with Spanish “help” that did that.

  27. #27 by kenken on November 28, 2009 - 6:34 pm

    It has been said that two thinks you can not retrieve: a stone you throw, and a word you say. That is true for the stone if it was thrown in the Mariana Trench in the Pacific Ocean, but for the word you say, you do not have to retrieve it in the fist place if it was true.

    Let me see if I can retrieve my last post. After reading this article (Christian Right) I was moved by it. specially when i read about the atrooities of this cabal and in Iraq and Palestine. I could not hear that this article is refreshing and enjoyable reading, and moved to the next response. Had Mr. Goodwin deferrd his enjoymant to the end of his response, I myself would have enjoyed and get refreshed by his reverting to the true Christianity, from satanic cabal.

  28. #28 by Frusrated Christian on November 28, 2009 - 10:46 pm

    Mark,

    I feel more authentically “church’d” with my brethren in The Ugly Truth site, than in those capital “J” Jew little “d” deo – Christian buildings with all the antichrist lovers that filled the pews.

    Like in the Bible, you can learn from stories of other people’s mistakes.

    “For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.” -Romans 15:4 NIV

    In that spirit here is a confession.

    I was a member of a major Jewish evangelism ministry (man, there is a paradoxical phrase), called Ro*k *f Isr**l supported by the rabid pro-Zionist Assembly of God denomination. Even, received an award from them for my enthusiastic, well intentioned stupidity (Baaaaaaa!); for wasting my time and a big chunk of my money trying to save Satan’s children. I keep it around just to remind myself how stupid a person with good intentions and no discernment can be.

    I recall one time at a restaurant 20 years ago. A man came in and sat next to me. We chatted and I learned he was a Jew, homeless and staying at the Salvation Army up the street. After hearing he was broke, I gave him the $7.00 out of my wallet – every penny I had on me. Why not? I would be blessed by God. I got a R*ck *f Isr**l notated Bible out of my car to explain how much Jesus loved him and wanted to save Jews. (Yes, I carried them in my car looking for God’s Chosen Imposters to save.) He must have laughed all the way down to the local Safeway when he bought his MD 20/20 with my money. I’m not laughing.

    Xanadu is totally right, Judeo-Christians will throw their own people out of their own congregations so as to continue to support unrepentant Jews that hate Christ. Joo-deos unconditionally support the bandit state of Israelie and cheer at the destruction of Palestinian Christians. They are LOST in the Matrix, as were a good number of us. Unplug if you haven’t, it’s not too late. I wrote the confession for you that are sitting on the fence.

    It is no sin to explore, and attempt to honestly prove something true or false; even your own belief/s. Such study is not rebellion to God. It will validate and in all cases lead directly to God. “…no lie comes from the truth.” -1 John 2:21 NIV

    Jesus is real, I believe in Him. I believe he is everything he said he was. He wasn’t a Jew, he didn’t practice Judaism, and and he certainly wouldn’t have anything to do with anything “Judeo-Christian.” Nor will I.

    “This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.”
    -1 John 4:2-3 (NIV)

  29. #29 by Xanadu on November 28, 2009 - 11:43 pm

    Jalid November 28, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    I sent the previous post in response to a lady by the name of Darkmoon who a few days ago verbally abused me in a previous thread by saying this..

    “But may I ask you, Mr Palestine, why you are not in your own country, fighting bravely for the liberation of your people? Like a coward, you skulk in Venezuela, far away from the fighting and the dying. Why are you hiding in South America if you so brave, you pathetic coward? Why don’t you go back and fight for your people instead of frothing at the mouth like a nutcase in Venezuela and calling for the mass extermination of the Jews? Stupid fool, you deserve nothing but contempt”

    I know who it is. As this person, Darkmoon has been banned from several other places for her sickening up and down attitude.
    Bipolar woman, get a man.!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Relax, Jalid. Darkmoon spoke in anger. She regrets her foolish words and says she is sorry for saying them.

  30. #30 by Jill on November 28, 2009 - 11:57 pm

    Christianity is Jew run. It has been since the beginning.

    It’s a way of fleecing the gullible.

    A way of separating the gullible from their dollars.

    A way of convincing the gullible to kill, and die, for Jew causes.

    The “Christian” churches are so riddled with (covert) Jews that Christians never make any substantial decisions as to the direction of “their” church.

    REMEMBER;

    Golden Rule: Infiltrate ALL leadership positions, especially those of your enemy.

    To understand what happens in the world, you need to know that

    Bush, Blair, Obama, Putin, Merkel, Sarkozy, Harper, Howard, RUDD and most other leaders are (covert) Jews.

    See for yourself (PHOTOS):

    http://www.webng.com/linuxhelp/jews/JewLeaders.htm

    And while you are looking,… try this 2.2 MB mega-photo of Rabbis and politicians:

    http://www.webng.com/linuxhelp/jews/images/small/index.html

    Obama is a JEW. Bush is a JEW. Clinton is a Jew. Reagan most probably was a Jew,…

    http://www.webng.com/linuxhelp/jews/TheJewObama.htm

    In fact, probably every U.S. President has been a (covert) Jew,… even Abraham Lincoln;

    “Brethren, the lamented Abraham Lincoln believed himself to be bone from our bone and flesh from our flesh. He supposed himself to be a descendant of Hebrew parentage. He said so in my presence. And, indeed, he preserved numerous features of the Hebrew race, both in countenance and character.”

    Quote from Rabbi Isaac Wise, Lincoln eulogy delivered at Lodge Street Temple, Cincinnati, on April 19, 1865.

    Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt were both descendants of the Dutch Jewish immigrant Claes Martensen van Rosenvelt.

    Claes Martensen van Rosenvelt changed his name to Nicholas Roosevelt.

    His wife, Jannetje Samuels, also used the names Jannetje Hamel and Jannetje Thomas (I guess Samuels just sounded too Jewish).

    Claes Martensen van Rosenvelt m. Jannetje Samuels
    .Nicholas Roosevelt m. Heyltje Jans Kunst
     .Johannes Roosevelt m. Heyltje Sjoerts
      .Jacobus Roosevelt m. Annetje Bogert
       .James Jacobus Roosevelt m. Maria van Schaak
        .Cornelis Roosevelt m. Margaret Barnhill
         .Theodore Roosevelt m. Martha Bullock
          .THEODORE ROOSEVELT, US President

    Claes Martensen van Rosenvelt m. Jannetje Samuels
    .Nicholas Roosevelt m. Heyltje Jans Kunst
     .Jacobus Roosevelt m. Catharina Hardenbroek
      .Isaac Roosevelt m. Cornelia Hoffman
       .James Roosevelt m. Maria Eliza Walton
        .Isaac Roosevelt m. Mary Rebecca Aspinwall
         .James Roosevelt m. Sara Delano
          .FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT, US President

    The Delano’s were Jews from France/Spain.

    “In the distant past my ancestors may have been Jews. All I know about the origin of the Roosevelt family is that they are apparently descended form Claes Martenszen van Roosevelt, who came from Holland.”

    Franklin Delano Roosevelt; The New York Times, March 14, 1935.

    http://www.webng.com/linuxhelp/jews/bush-genealogy.htm

    “Do you really think a goyim can preside over a passover seder?
    Because that is what Obama did in his personal White House quarters…”

    Like I said, Obama is a Jew.

    Well, it seems he is not ashamed of it,… putting it on the internet for all to see.

    The Haggadah is written in both Hebrew and English. I wonder which language they are singing the passover hymns in.

    Have a look: http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/hi_res/seder_hi-res.jpg

  31. #31 by The Prodigal Son on November 29, 2009 - 12:03 am

    Jalid,

    I’m disappointed in you man… calling for the deaths of people; calling for the slaughter of “ninety seven percent” of ‘Jews’ (who are not even really Jews), is not the way !

    Read this, which I found @ WhatReallyHappened.com:

    ISRAELI COLONEL: “WE WILL HAVE TO KILL THEM ALL.”

    Israeli colonel Eitam, in typical colonial fashion has called Palestinians “creatures who came out of the depths of darkness” who were “collectively guilty” and could be indiscriminately killed – not only if they had “blood on their hands” but because of “the evil in their heads”.

    “We will have to kill them all.”, he said.

    (‘A Reporter At Large: Among The Settlers’ – The New Yorker, 31 May, 2004)

    Replce the word ‘Palestinians’ with the misnomer ‘Jews’ and we see that the colonel’s statements are not dissimilar to those made recently by some commentors here @ The Ugly Truth.

    Can you not see that this is a vicious, perpetuating cycle of HATE ?

    You have said here that Jesus was your favorite… Why then don’t you heed His words ? Why not try to emulate Him ?

    Jesus could have destroyed the Pharisees anytime He wanted ! When they came to arrest Him in the middle of the night, He knew they were coming… He went of His own volition !

    When Peter cut off Malchus’ ear, Jesus rebuked him and put the man’s ear back on – healing him… and He went in peace.

    Christ is the Prince of Peace and He would not say some of the things that have been said by some here recently… even to His death, He PRAYED for His persecutors. This is our example Jalid.

    F.Y.I.: If my memory serves me correctly, Lasha Darkmoon is Xanadu’s sister. These ladies are both extremely intelligent and very well versed in all things Yiddish.

    Neither is Israel Shamir, nor is either one Ruth Bernstein.

    Both deserve your respect.

  32. #32 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on November 29, 2009 - 6:52 am

    Mark: You are a real trooper!

    Where was this fervor, patriotism and love of country during 8 years of “Dubbya”? Where was this fear of a tyrannical government and it’s over-reaching powers threatening to rob Americans of their God-given rights when the “former” alcoholic/drug addict was stinking the place up with his policies, all of which carried kosher stamp on them reading “Made In Israel“?

    Not only that, but W has the unbeaten record of the lowest IQ president to ever occupy the White House. He graduated with “C” average, and was arrested 3 times before he made it to the White House.

    During his presidency, the US was ranked as # 1 threat to world peace, fellowed by Israel by polls after polls taken in even Western Europian countries. Even beating Al-Qaeda.

    Frustrated Christian: Thank you for the confession and your word of wisdom. It does take courage to admit past mistakes, and to reveal one’s dark history. We all learn from our mistakes.

    Xanadu: I do like the cartoon. Appreciate the link. That is the sad truth. Glad you back.

    Ruth Bernstein: Could you stand up and be counted. I begin to wonder whether you are being banned or behind bars.

  33. #33 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on November 29, 2009 - 7:07 am

    Prodigal son wrote:

    F.Y.I.: If my memory serves me correctly, Lasha Darkmoon is Xanadu’s sister. These ladies are both extremely intelligent and very well versed in all things Yiddish.

    You are correct P.S. I do recall one them making the reference that they are sisters. Sometimes I wonder if they are twin sister. I never noticed that Lasha Darkmoon has a sicking up and down attitude. She struck me as real and genuine poster.

    Xanadu: If your lovely sister is still looking for a good and handsome man, I still have 3 eligible bachelors. She can still hit me before it’s too late!

  34. #34 by Xanadu on November 29, 2009 - 6:38 pm

    Mahmoud El-Yousseph

    November 29, 2009 at 7:07 am

    Xanadu: If your lovely sister is still looking for a good and handsome man, I still have 3 eligible bachelors. She can still hit me before it’s too late!

    Sorry, Mahmoud, you have already given your heart to Ruth Bernstein! :)

  35. #35 by Fr. John on November 29, 2009 - 8:31 pm

    Long Beach, if you want to discuss theology, leave comments over at my blog. UT has too much to deal with, to clog up his electrons with our internecine conflicts (if any!)

    Peace in Christ.

    FJ

  36. #36 by Jalid on November 29, 2009 - 8:36 pm

    Brother from Long beach California,
    I thank you for your support, input and understanding. And you are right, “she doesn’t know the demonic depths of Jewish behavior in even the most mundane of daily tasks, because if she did she would travel, if remotely possible, half way around the globe to help get rid of them”. You are right because she doesn’t seem to know how it feels to watch with your own eyes as your people gets raped five inches away from you while at the same time not knowing the obstacles and impediments the Jews have placed to keep you from joining the fight and if possible at least rescue the little ones.
    It hurts too; that at the mean time you get called a coward when it is knows that there is nothing you can possibly do. Nothing. Except come to forums like the Ugly Truth to vent your anger and even then
    You get overpowered by these insensible philosophers.
    Nothing. Except of course, for going out and take revenge on the wrong people just because they happen to share the same religion as the actual physical perpetrators.
    That will turn me into a real terrorist and a patsy because that’s exactly what they want: to provoke attacks on innocent Yids out side of their fake enterprise so they can appear as victims again.
    True, they all share guilt, EVERY ONE OF THEM, because as I said before, it is a collective way of thinking, a gang banging bunch.

  37. #37 by Xanadu on November 29, 2009 - 8:39 pm

    Remember how brave Obama seemed a few months ago when he told the Israelis to stop building settlements? The wise among us knew it woldn’t make the slightest difference and that this Zionist puppet would soon be giving them the green light to start building again.

    Enjoy this cartoon where the Barrack is pretending to be Rachel Corrie:

  38. #38 by Jalid on November 29, 2009 - 8:42 pm

    Prodigal son,
    Dont use Jesus as a shield to promote and protect those who robbed me of my country.
    If you want to sound generous and compassionate then let them have yours.

  39. #39 by Jalid on November 29, 2009 - 8:50 pm

    A thought came to me upon reading your post:
    Your speech will sound appealing ONLY to the ears of people like Ruth, Dark moon and Israel Shamir.
    It is very easy to say such words when you didn’t crawl out of the broken sewage drains of the Palestinian Refugee camps.
    You have ingested the crucial ingredients needed to lead a peaceful existence and that is why you see every thing in front of you in beautiful colours.
    I am sure if we were in the same room your face will light in glee as soon as you see them, while you push me aside.

    What do you tell the mugger after he robs you?
    “Here, you forgot to take this other wad of money I had in my back pocket, God bless you?”
    Tell me, how come you didn’t utter a word on Dark moon’s attack?
    Sadly, your words do not contain enough wisdom and good judgment to wash here because I belong to the brand of people that can’t respect one that talks to me this way, the way Darkmoon did because respect is EARNED.

    By the way, when I said Jesus is my favourite, didn’t you read the part where I said that his teachings are conflicting TO THESE MONSTERS nature?
    How are Jesus teachings gonna help my people free my country when the invader was the same one who crucified him and continue to deny him and hate him?
    And you defend them?
    You sound like the perfect example of the Christian Right,

    So, please save it.

  40. #40 by Amerikagulag on November 30, 2009 - 2:08 pm

    Great article Mark.
    Gratefull recovering catholic here. No more cannibalistic rituals for me, no matter how fluffy and allegedly necessary.

    One correction though: Jefferson said, “the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tyrants”.
    Painfully apropos under the bush adiministration. The jury still out one the BO admin.

    What I have trouble with, in this xtian confusion, is the notion that somehow, outright theft (ie, bank, wallstreet and Ins co. bailout money) has become synonymous with socialism.

    Though I have no doubts we are descending into totalitarian fascism, I have no delusions that we will become socialist. The elite will not allow the rabble at the feeding trough.

    Keep up the good work.

    BTW, I’d advocate revolution if only to overthrow the Zionist-controlled government currently inhabiting DC. As it sits, there is only one party with two faces. And the current face is a Zionist face, as was the last.

  41. #41 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on November 30, 2009 - 2:58 pm

    Xanadu wrote:

    Sorry, Mahmoud, you have already given your heart to Ruth Bernstein! :)

    OK funny professor, have it your way.

    However; let me set the record straight.

    I was referring to my boys ages 17,18, and 29], and not myself.
    Besides, my heart was given away decades before I stumble into Ruth and this site. You can’t possibly divide your heart into two.

    I don’t know how you get that impression Miss clairvoyance. You are giving poor Ruth a false hope!

    Recognizing certain characteristic of some one does not mean you are falling in for them. You and I know how dateless and desperate Ruth is. As far as I am concern, I don’t wish to contaminate my blood line. After all, Ruth refused to post her picture on this site. So, no one really know for sure if she is a man or a woman.

    May your darkmoon turn into a bright one.

  42. #42 by Long Beach California on November 30, 2009 - 3:06 pm

    I thank you for your comments brother Jalid. Very insightful. israeli “bravery” reminds me of the “brave” American soldiers with air power, sniper support, and depleted uranium weapons in Iraq saying that the resistance were cowards for not coming out and fighting them face to face. I have cousins in the military and told them to get out. They are not defending our freedom. They are fighting for the “right” of israelis to have houses on Palestinian land, swimming pools full of Lebanese water and a haifa refinement industry full of Arab crude oil. They don’t really care, when faced with joblessness, jail, and drug use – many turn mercenary just to live.

    I come from a long line of military men. They don’t have any illusions. My father and Grand father know what they were fighting for in Asia and it wasn’t America. My cousins know what they’re fighting for – and it isn’t us. Many in the armed forces are under no illusions about the fact that they are corporate pawns. They just refuse to believe that those evil corporations and government agencies are just jewish fronts. The problem is that no-one in the military can say this ever since GWBush became president. Starting 2000, the military became over run with Christian-zionists. The born again movement was promoted in all areas. Unbelieving high ranking officers were dismissed and replaced with zealots. Your promotions became dependent on which prayer circle you belonged to. Proselytizing and ridicule of non-evangelical Christians became an open and tolerated practice on Military bases and academies (especially the Air Force) across the nation. One should ask why the atheist-“Marxist” obama has done nothing to purge the military of their destructive ranks.

    May Allah guide us all.

  43. #43 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on November 30, 2009 - 3:31 pm

    Let me clarify my statement about not wanting my blood line being contaminated, so it would not be misconstrued.

    Ruth Berstein has shown through her many posts here her deep rooted hatred to everything called Palestinians, Arab, or Muslim.

    As far as I am concern, she could be placed in a deserted Island along with Jilad the Palestinian. Only for one week!

  44. #44 by Darkmoon on November 30, 2009 - 4:56 pm

    Jalid is mistaken about me. I bear him no ill-will. I apologize for questioning his courage. I am aware that there is nothing Jalid can do to fight for Palestine. The only possible thing he COULD do, if he were young and strong, would be to go to Lebanon and join Hezbollah. Beyond that, no exiled Palestinian can do anything.

    As Xanadu said, I spoke in anger.

    I also happen to have drunk several glasses of wine when I wrote that offensive comment. Maybe I shouldn’t write things when I am not altogether sober.

    So. Sorry for giving offence. Sincere apologies for not being more careful to curb my evil tongue.

  45. #45 by Darkmoon on November 30, 2009 - 5:06 pm

    However, the truth remains.

    No matter how many tears Jalid has shed for his people — no matter how much he beats his breast to prove to the world what a fine fellow he is — and how his heart bleeds for the Palestinians — he cannot justify the mass murder of MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE.

    FIFTEEN MILLION JEWS CANNOT BE BLAMED FOR THE CRIMES OF THE JEWISH MAFIA.

    Anyone who demands the death of every single ITALIAN in the world for the crimes of the ITALIAN MAFIA is not a sane person!

    Anyone who demands that the ENTIRE FAMILY of a serial killer should be put to death, claiming they are ALL in some way to blame for the killer’s crimes, is not a sane person.

    Note this too: whenever Palestinian civilians are killed and entire areas destroyed by the Israelis, all the world complains about the unfairness of “collective punishment.” Jalid himself would complain that it is totally unfair to destroy an entire Palestinian village to avenge one or two rockets shot into Sderot.

    Yet here we see Jalid advocating the COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT OF THE JEWS in the mistaken belief that EVERY JEW is guilty — including the unborn Jewish child in the womb.

    I repeat: Jalid is an extremist and a hothead. He fits the profile of a “potential terrorist.”

    On this very site not so long ago, Jalid expressed disappointment that the Holocaust was a “hoax”. He said: “How disappointing! I WISH SIX MILLION HAD DIED!” He then went on to say that a policy of MASS EXTERMINATION of the Jews was the only answer to the “Jewish problem.”

    I took exception to this. I protested. I have as much right to free speech here as this breast-thumping Palestinian whose only aim in life seems to be to proclaim his boodthirstiess and prove to the low-IQ element on this site what a passionate fellow he is — oozing with sincerity, burning with the zeal to cut off 15 million heads with his own machete!

    I put it to you, my friends — if there are any sane and well-balanced people listening to me — that FIFTEEN MILLION JEWS, MANY OF THEM INNOCENT CHILDREN, DO NOT DESERVE TO HAVE THEIR HEADS CUT OFF JUST BECAUSE JALID CANNOT CONTROL HIS BLOOD LUST.

    Jalid, sorry for speaking my mind. I am a woman. Maybe I ought to spend my time peeling potatoes and knitting socks while brave zealots like you solve the world’s problems by advocating mass murder.

  46. #46 by Long Beach California on November 30, 2009 - 5:47 pm

    Why all the questioning of others’ sanity? Seems an awfully jewish tactic to me. But then again, that’s just me.

  47. #47 by Darkmoon on November 30, 2009 - 7:52 pm

    Long Beach California November 30, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    Why all the questioning of others’ sanity? Seems an awfully jewish tactic to me. But then again, that’s just me.

    If you think it is sane to give your moral support to one who is insane enough to advocate mass murder, then your definition of “sanity” differs from mine.

  48. #48 by Darkmoon on November 30, 2009 - 7:54 pm

    Moreover, if the best you can do to defend your ideology of mass murder is to call me a “Jew”, then I don’t think much of your inteligence. You will have to do better than this. Cretin.

  49. #49 by Jalid on November 30, 2009 - 9:13 pm

    exactly right, Long Beach
    “Seems an awfully Jewish tactic to me”
    As that was said Sixty years ago!

    Read this….

    “One cannot defend himself against the Jew. He attacks with lightning speed from his position of safety and uses his abilities to crush any attempt at defense.

    Quickly he turns the attacker’s charges back on him, and the attacker becomes the liar, the troublemaker, the terrorist. Nothing could be more mistaken than to defend oneself. That is just what the Jew wants. He can invent a new lie every day for the enemy to respond to, and the result is that the enemy spends so much time defending himself that he has no time to do what the Jew really fears: to attack. The accused has become the accuser, and loudly he shoves the accuser into the dock. So it always was in the past when a person or a movement fought the Jew. That is what would happen to us as well were we not fully aware of his nature, and if we lacked the courage to draw the following radical conclusions:…

  50. #50 by Jalid on November 30, 2009 - 9:15 pm

    Continued … (for amusement only!)

    1. One cannot fight the Jew by positive means. He is a negative, and this negative must be erased from the German system, or he will forever corrupt it.
    2. One cannot discuss the Jewish question with the Jews. One can hardly prove to a person that one has the duty to render him harmless.
    3. One cannot allow the Jew the same means one would give an honest opponent, for he is no honorable opponent. He will use generosity and nobility only to trap his enemy.
    4. The Jew has nothing to say about German questions. He is a foreigner, an alien, who only enjoys the rights of a guest, rights that he always abuses.
    5. The so-called religious morality of the Jews is no morality at all, rather an encouragement to betrayal. Therefore, they have no claim to protection from the state.
    6. The Jew is not smarter than we are, rather only cleverer and craftier. His system cannot be defeated economically — he follows entirely different moral principles than we do. It can only be broken through political means.
    7. A Jew cannot insult a German. Jewish slanders are but badges of honor for a German opponent of the Jews.
    8. The more a German person or a German movement opposes the Jew, the more valuable it is. If someone is attacked by the Jews, that is a sure sign of his virtue. He who is not persecuted by the Jews, or who is praised by them, is useless and dangerous.
    9. The Jew evaluates German questions from the Jewish standpoint. As a result, the opposite of what he says must be true.
    10. One must either affirm or reject anti-Semitism. He who defends the Jews (enter “Our frineds” above)harms his own people. One can only be a Jewish lackey (Again, enter our crypto friends)or a Jewish opponent. Opposing the Jews is a matter of personal hygiene….

  51. #51 by Jalid on November 30, 2009 - 9:17 pm

    Continued, just making sure the dagger reached the other side! )These principles give the anti-Jewish movement a chance of success. Only such a movement will be taken seriously by the Jews, only such a movement will be feared by them.

    The fact that he shouts and complains about such a movement therefore is only a sign that it is right. We are therefore delighted that we are constantly attacked in the Jewish gazettes. They may shout about terror. We answer with Mussolini’s familiar words: “Terror? Never! It is social hygiene. We take these individuals out of circulation just as a doctor does to a bacterium.

  52. #52 by Jalid on November 30, 2009 - 9:30 pm

    And to those who said “the only way to fight the Jew would be to go to Lebanon and join Hezbollah. Beyond that yada yada”
    they must have been drunk again!
    because,
    There are 12.000 unifil soldiers between Hizbollah and “Israel” placed there after the Massacre/war/massacre of 2006,

    Because,
    Hezbollah recruits ONLY people they are 100 percent sure of to avoid infiltrations,

    Because,
    If you make it past the Beirut airport and reach them
    they will thankyou, offer a cup of coffe and then buy you a one way ticket back to where you came from!

    Shows the time i have wasted with people who type while burping Manizchewitz bubbles,
    :)

    Conditional apologies NOT accepted!
    Until next interesting thread …
    See ya!

  53. #53 by Jalid on December 1, 2009 - 12:53 am

    Ops, forgot to say good bye to my friend from California and remind him,
    The above quotes are basic, solid formulas to keep in mind when dealing with the above “frineds”, wait, the right way to write the word is, “Friends”… (my back space button is broken),
    All we got to do is replace the word German for Palestinian or American and amazingly it will all click
    in place.
    Remember, i am being put on trial here only for Wishing that the actual killers of babies and their followers be handed dramatic, poetic, perfect justice.
    I only “wished” for them to die,
    when the ACTUAL PERPETRATORS WHO actually did it get away.
    Sounds like a perfect example of the above PEOPLE whom these SEVENTY YEARS OLD QUOTES warn us about.
    At the ends ITS MY COUNTRY we are talking about here, not theirs.

  54. #54 by The Prodigal Son on December 1, 2009 - 2:44 am

    Jalid,

    If I have offended you, please forgive me… that was not my intent.

    I have no need to “use Jesus as a shield”, nor would I ever promote the agenda or deeds of the fake ‘Jews’ in Palestine or elsewhere. I am here to help to expose and reprove them in their lies and their works of darkness.

    I don’t think that me imploring you not to vocalize incitement to violence & a desire for the deaths of others here @ The Ugly Truth can be construed as generosity or compassion for the Yids, it is only common sense.

    Here in the West, we are constantly bombarded with propaganda about Arabs, Muslims and Palestinians. The stereotype we are fed is the image of the bloodthirsty, religiously fanatical Arab terrorist – who wants to kill all of the ‘Jews’.

    Can’t you see how you – a Palestinian – are here reinforcing that image ? Don’t you see how that is harmful for Palestinians – the ones who still live in Palestine ? Unwitting people read your words and then they believe what the Yids have told them about you & your people.

    Trust me Jalid – my compassion is for the oppressed, the persecuted, the downtrodden… that’s Palestine !

    I would literally be willing to die for the life of a child like the one in the photo accompanying ‘Hunting Season in Palestine’ !

    I have contemplated going to Palestine… I consider Rachel Corrie to be a shining example of a Christ-like hero. But she is an unsung hero… perhaps the angels sing for her…

    I feel that I must see the Holy Land – Palestine, not Israel – before I die… to visit the old Orthodox Churches, and to walk in the places where Christ Himself walked.

    And I assure you, I would do everything I could to protect Palestinians from the settlers and the IDF… and if I lost my life, then that would be the greatest love I could show.

    I keep coming back to the notion that the Palestinians are in desperate need of our help, and that they symbolize Christ in need of our help.

    The Palestinians are ‘the least of these’, and whatever we do unto them – we do unto Christ… Christ said what we do to the least of these, we do to Him… so won’t we help him ? They are KILLING Him !

    My words to you here were not; and these are not a speech, and I’m not trying to appeal to anyone but you now.

    You are right when you say it’s easy for me. I feel guilty for that… I DON’T know how bad it really is… BUT – I know that calling for the deaths of ‘Jews’ only HURTS the Palestinian cause, in that it gives credibility to the lies told in our Yiddish MSM.

    The ‘Jews’ can now point to your words (and those of others) here and say, “See ? See ? We TOLD you they want to kill us all ! We’re surrounded ! It’s self defense !”

    I do not see everything in front of me in beautiful colors… things are gloomy here in the world… not much light left !

    If you think I would push you aside when a fake, anti-Christ ‘Jew’ entered the room, you are sorely mistaken my friend !

    But neither would I encourage or help you to kill him !

    Concerning the hypothetical mugger… Christ said, “If a man steals your shirt, offer him your cloak as well.”

    Peace in Christ Jalid, peace in Christ.

    I never said anything about Darkmoon’s ‘attack’…

    1) Because I didn’t read it right away, and…

    2) Because for the most part, I agreed with what she was saying.

    Respect is earned ? Shouldn’t we just offer each other a certain level of respect -freely ?

    Are manners earned ? We don’t have to be polite unless we feel the other person deserves it, is that it ?

    Truth is – Jesus’ teachings probably won’t help much in this world. Jesus said in this age there would be tribulation, He said Christians would be hated for His sake, and for the sake of the Gospel.

    Christ’s kingdom is not of this age and this age is dying. Christians know that we are in Satan’s realm here on earth… Christians look to the age to come and to the resurrection.

    Peace comes in Christ and in eternal life.

    Go said, “Love your enemies.”…

    He also said, “Vengeance is mine”

  55. #55 by The Prodigal Son on December 1, 2009 - 3:00 am

    Correction : GOD said, “Love your enemies.”

    Sorry

  56. #56 by Amerikagulag on December 1, 2009 - 5:50 am

    The Prodigal Son said: “….I am here to help to expose and reprove them in their lies and their works of darkness…..”

    Why don’t you start with the Jewish Book of Fables, where God is credited with saying, “vengeance is mine”? It’s one of their greatest lies and most profitable thus far.

    “Vengeance is mine”, eh?

    Funny, a vindictive deity doesn’t smak of a God who is ‘all love’. At least not to me. But then it comes from the same tribal deity that said ” kill ever man woman and child”. Nice God that Jewish Book of Fables God.

    And as I recall, it was Jesus that said, “love your enemies”, not God, at least not on any recording or transcription of any interview done with him.

  57. #57 by AHMED K on December 1, 2009 - 9:53 am

    xanadu

    the cartoon on Rachel Corrie was not funny…
    the way she was murdered, was not funny..
    a jew, drove a bulldozer over her, after seeing her,then reverses and drives over her again..
    if you find it funny, then you are complicit in her murder..
    since Palestinians are murdered by jews everyday,
    YOU must be getting a good laugh everyday

  58. #58 by Darkmoon on December 1, 2009 - 11:05 am

    This is the second time my posts have been blocked.
    It’s becoming a habit.
    There’s no level playing field here.
    Those who preach mass murder are given free rein.
    Those who advocate moderation are censored.

    –note from me–We already went through this a month or so ago with people being accused of being Mossad agents who weren’t. Discourse is fine, even heated discourse, but I do not want a new thread started like before of people accusing the others of being moles or plants until we know more.

  59. #59 by Long Beach California on December 1, 2009 - 12:51 pm

    Darkmoon,
    If you’re too slow to realize that brother Jalid is speaking hyberboles born of many generations of physical and emotional trauma, then you’re too slow to be insulting other people’s intellects.
    If you honestly think that a better world depends on the victims of imperialism not speaking ill of their oppressors, then you’re too disturbed to be questioning other people’s sanity.
    Salaam wa Haq one and all, but especially to Darkmoon who needs both.

  60. #60 by Seeking Truth on December 1, 2009 - 3:56 pm

    Prodigal Son,

    I am trying to understand your kind heart and put it into prctical use for a nation like Palestinaians who have been violated for 60+ yrs. What do you suggest they should do? “Love their enemy”?

    How has loving this enemy helped Christians or mankind for the last 2000 yrs.?

    As a Christians nation, why didn’t USA love its enemy after 911? or after Pearl Harbor?

    This is not to imply Jalid comments are true but you have to understand his frustration. As far as media picking up on such slogans…. let them do as they wish. You can never please the Devil.

    Unfortunately, you are playing the game by their rules.

    –note from me–In the first case, we have to remember that when Jesus was saying ‘love your enemy’, look whom he was talking to –THE JEWS, who by their collective cultural nature were/are all too-willing to start a war for the slightest of reasons. Furthermore, knowing something about the Jewish mindset, He also understood that the Jews looked upon other non-jews as enemies, despite them having done nothing at all.

    Lastly, we must remember that oftentimes we are forced to choose between our ‘lovers’ . I love my neighbor who is a drunk and I love my family. If my neighbor–in one of his drunken rages, breaks into my home with the intention of doing harm to my family who I also love, then the choice if obvious–the neighbor gets the bullet between the eyes.

    We must be careful in our misapplication of Jesus’ words when it comes to situations like these as they are of obvious use to our enemies.

  61. #61 by Long Beach California on December 1, 2009 - 6:16 pm

    To Mark and Seeking Truth:

    We must remember that Christ(p) taught us how to live as individuals. Even if Christian’s reject the notion the Jesus(p) came only to “the lost sheep of Israel”, one should still recognize that his message was a personal one, not a blueprint for social rule, his kingdom is of the heart and the soul – it is of God. What God(swt) expects of us in our individual lives is different from our social responsibilities (rendering and all). In my personal life I am to turn the other cheek, but I am NEVER to turn another’s for a second blow. Some of us Muslim’s believe in much of Christ’s direct message (the words in red) as a guide to personal transformation (which can and has lead to social transformation). It is the message of the final prophet Muhammad(saw) however, that is the guide for social construction. In this light I consider Jesus(p) to be the first Sufi. A focus on the love and self purification that leads us beyond the letter of the law to knowledge of God and hos love. God’s Love is the esoteric (or persopnal), God’s sovereign Justice is the exoteric(or social). Just as Al Wadud and Al Malik are but names of the one, so too should one not consider these two separate things.

  62. #62 by Long Beach California on December 1, 2009 - 6:18 pm

    PS: Christian pacifists might want to look up John 15:13. Jihad not NOT exclusive to Islam!

  63. #63 by Darkmoon on December 1, 2009 - 10:23 pm

    –note from me[MARK GLENN] –We already went through this a month or so ago with people being accused of being Mossad agents who weren’t. Discourse is fine, even heated discourse, but I do not want a new thread started like before of people accusing the others of being moles or plants until we know more.

    Sorry, Mark. Good point. I shouldn’t have called anyone here a “Mossad agent.” After all, I have no proof said person is a Mossad agent.

    Try and understand, however, that I AM NOT A JEW and to be called a Jew by Jalid is a way of discrediting and insulting me.

    So I called him a Mossad agent in retaliation.

    –note from me, MG–FOR THE RECORD, JALID OR WHOEVER–Darkmoon is a dear friend of mine and NOT a plant/asset of any type, and if there is anyone I will not tolerate being accused being such it is she.

  64. #64 by Xanadu on December 1, 2009 - 10:41 pm

    AHMED K December 1, 2009 at 9:53 am

    xanadu

    the cartoon on Rachel Corrie was not funny…
    the way she was murdered, was not funny..
    a jew, drove a bulldozer over her, after seeing her,then reverses and drives over her again..
    if you find it funny, then you are complicit in her murder..
    since Palestinians are murdered by jews everyday,
    YOU must be getting a good laugh everyday

    I did not post any cartoon making fun of Rachel Corrie. The cartoon I posted was of Barrack Obama.

    There is nothing offensive about this cartoon. It appeared in the Economist magazine. Here it is:

    The only similarity between this cartoon and the death of Rachel Corrie is the presence of a BULLDOZER.

    Please tell me, Ahmed K, how this cartoon offends you?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I have in fact written a poem called “Dead Children of Palestine” (published on this site a year ago and on several other sites) which was dedicated to Rachel Corrie’s memory..

    So I happen to hold her in very high honor. Rachel is one of my heroines and role models.

  65. #65 by The Prodigal Son on December 2, 2009 - 12:53 am

    Amerikagulag,

    First of all – the Old Testament was not written by ‘Jews’. ‘Jews’ are Pharisees and the Bible was not written by Pharisees… the ‘Jews’ authored the Talmud.

    Not all of the Children of Israel were ‘Jews’ in the first place… ‘Jews’ were only one tribe out of twelve, but the ‘Jews’ of today have no racial connection to Biblical Judahites !

    If anything, there is indication that the ‘Jews’ are descended from the children of Edom… but that’s a whole ‘nother can of

    God is not vindictive… God is righteous ! Vengeance is perfect and righteous judgement, which only God is capable of carrying out…

    Evil is overcome by good, which the Son of God Himself demonstrated on the Cross, and which believers are called to emulate.

    In Romans 12:17-21, St. Paul says,

    “Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peacably with all men.

    Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, ‘Vengeance is Mine. I will repay.’ says the Lord. Therefore

    ‘If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
    If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
    For in doing so, you will heap coals of fire on his head.’

    Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.”

    The verse quoted by St. Paul is from Proverbs 25:21, 22 in the Old Testament . Those are the words of the God of Israel (not the ‘Jews’).

    Lastly, you say you used to be Roman Catholic (as did I), but I don’t think you were a studious one… you don’t even know the basic tenets of Christianity !

    Namely, the Holy Trinty and the Deity of Jesus Christ… look:

    “Jesus said to him, ‘I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

    ‘If you had nown Me, you would have known My Father also; and from on you know Him and have seen Him.’

    Philip said to Him, ‘Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.’

    Jesus said to him, ‘Have I been with you you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip ? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’ ? Do you not believe that I am in the Father , and the Father in Me ? The words I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.’ “

  66. #66 by Long Beach California on December 2, 2009 - 1:10 am

    Dear Mark et al,
    I apologize if my criticism of Darkmoon went beyond any unspoken limits that I was unaware of, but I do stand by my earlier points. It is obvious to me that Jalid’s thinking and wishing ill on such monsters hardly comprises a movement towards mass-murder, and my support of him is not an endorsement of such. All apologies if such was the impression- yet I still cannot honestly say that i do not feel EXACTLY the same way on occasion. Evil thoughts born of another’s evil may not be constructive, but it is both predictable and understandable.

  67. #67 by Darkmoon on December 2, 2009 - 10:32 am

    –note from me, MG–FOR THE RECORD, JALID OR WHOEVER–Darkmoon is a dear friend of mine and NOT a plant/asset of any type, and if there is anyone I will not tolerate being accused being such it is she.

    Mark: for these kind words, many thanks.If ever you plan to stand for President of the United States, just let me know and I’ll start the fund-raising operation! :)

    Two serious questions though, and maybe you could write an article about this one day:

    1. What is the FIRST thing you would do if you became President of the United States and had complete freedom to act without hindrance?

    2. What would you do next, step by step, in a series of reforms, to get America back on the right track?

    Title of article: “IF EVER I BECAME PRESIDENT…”

    –Lasha, as much as I wish I could respond right now to this, I can’t as I am up to my eyeballs in other things.

  68. #68 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on December 2, 2009 - 4:06 pm

    I am not against discussion as long as it’s respectful and polite, and if someone has something personal to say to someone else it should be done privately. At sometimes, I was equally guilty of that. Enemies of this site would love nothing more that seeing this list members putting each other down or tearing each other up.

  69. #69 by thewhitechrist on December 2, 2009 - 4:16 pm

    “Even if Christian’s reject the notion the Jesus(p) came only to “the lost sheep of Israel”, one should still recognize that his message was a personal one, not a blueprint for social rule, his kingdom is of the heart and the soul – it is of God. What God(swt) expects of us in our individual lives is different from our social responsibilities (rendering and all).”

    Long Beach- clearly you know neither the Son of God, nor the Word of God, of which Christ is the final Incarnation.

    The USA was founded largely by Calvinists who were seeking both a) religious freedom from the state Church of the British Isles (which is known as Episcopalianism or Anglicanism today), as well as b) the ability to erect a Christian COMMONWEALTH here in the ‘New World.’ All history books before the 1960’s were clear on that. If you are younger than 40, I can excuse you for that bit of ignorance, but to say that Christendom or the USA have no interest in, or historical precedent for, a ‘godly republic’ is the height of arrogance.

    I would advise all you Hagarenes to seriously read the calvinist author and pastor, Rousas J. Rushdoony’s massive commentary on the ten commandments, entitled, ‘The Institutes of Biblical Law.” It is a commentary on how the Mosaic Law, fulfilled by the Church, was to rule and reign a nation.

    But DON’T say Christianity is a ‘religion of the heart.’ That is a lie, clearly denied by the Lord’s Prayer. “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, ON EARTH, as it is in heaven.

    Where do you think Mohammed STOLE his vision for a [counterfeit and ultimately blasphemous] imitation of the ONE, TRUE, Kingdom of God, of which Christ ALONE is King and GOD?

    From the Christian lands of the Middle Ages, that’s where. Sorry to be blunt, but if you’re going to live in this country, at least know her roots.

  70. #70 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on December 2, 2009 - 4:19 pm

    I also think honest discussion do improve thought process and make us think how can we improve as a group respecting our differences. This is merely an educational exercise and all opinions should be equally respected

    To me, Xanadu & Dakmoon are adamant Palestinian supporters. I read their comments for nearly a year. Their views and contributions put to shame many of the Arabs & Palestinians I knew.

    There was nothing wrong with Obama cartoon posted by Xanadu.
    It just draw the comperission of what happened to anyone who publicly support the Palestinian cause. Just like Rachel Corrie. Or what would happen if some one in position of power would challange the Israeli policies as on the illegal Jewish settlement being built on stolen Palestinian land. Obama’s cartoon just depict that. Brother Ahmed, please relax!

    I did miss the poem on Rachel Corrie, because I have not been here long enough. Please repost it again. I would love to see it.
    I have written many articles on Rachel Corrie after Israel cut her life short @ age 23.

  71. #71 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on December 2, 2009 - 4:25 pm

    Mark: With your permission I would like to share this article below,that I wrote in honor and memory of Rachel with the rest of the group. Thanks.ME

    Rachel Corrie: Justice Delayed Is Justice Denied

    By Mahmoud El-Yousseph

    Al-Jazeerah, March 14, 2007

    I sat down four years ago this month with my son Adam and told him about the tragic death of a brave American woman named Rachel Corrie. As I informed him who she was, where and how she died, he stared at her two photographs in the paper and said, “Daddy, I will name my first daughter Rachel.” Adam was only 9 years old, and I couldn’t have been more proud of him.

    Rachel Corrie had a heart bigger than Texas. She paid the ultimate price fighting to uphold the international law that bans collective punishment.

    Rachel was a 23 year-old Evergreen State College student from Olympia,WA.

    Rachel responded to the U.S. and Israeli rejection of a UN Resolution recommending an International Peace Keeping Force be sent into Palestine to serve as a human rights monitor there by enlisting in the International Solidarity Movement (ISM).

    ISM is a group of international volunteers who partake in non-violent direct action resistance to the Israeli occupation. Members of the group live in Palestinian communities and experience first-hand the violence to which Palestinians are subjected every day by the Israeli military.

    Rachel Corrie shared the Palestinian suffering and took some of the risks they are unfortunately forced to live with. Rachel dashed off to the Rafah refugee camp in the Gaza Strip. It was important for her to show that the world had not forgotten these people, and that individuals from all over the world are willing to interrupt their comfortable lives to come and risk themselves for the sake of the Palestinians and draw international attention to their plight.

    In Rafah, Rachel acted as a human shield, escorting people to water wells and school children between their homes and schools in order to discourage Israeli soldiers from firing at them. Rachel also helped Palestinian children with their homework and with their English language. She was also setting up a sister-city relationship between her home town of Olympia and Rafah. Sadly, her dream vanished on March 16, 2003 when her life was cut short in a savage way.

    According to 21 year-old eyewitness Joseph Smith, an ISM member from Missouri:

    “On that tragic day, Rachel stood in the pathway of an Israeli military bulldozer attempting to demolish the house of a Palestinian physician who was a friend of Rachel and her group, and in whose house Rachel and other activisits often stayed.

    Rachel was wearing a flourescent-orange jacket with reflective stripping and armed with a megaphone. Rachel sat in the pathway of the bulldozer. She was 8-10 feet in front of the bulldozer and began waving. The bulldozer continued driving forward, headed straight for Rachel. When it was so closed that it was moving the earth beneath her, Rachel climbed onto the pile of rubble being pushed by the bulldozer. She got so high onto it that she was at an eye-level with the cab of the bulldozer. Her head and upper torso were above the bulldozer’s blade. The driver and co-operator could clearly see her. Rachel was crushed to death under the 10-ton U.S.-made machine.”

    Israel claimed the driver didn’t see her. However, eyewitness accounts and Associated Press photos show Rachel standing in direct view of the bulldozer driver, dressed in a bright orange jacket and speaking into a megaphone. The driver would have to be blind and deaf not to notice that!

    The next day, Palestinians in Rafah flew the U.S. flag for the first time during a memorial service held in honor of Rachel. Even that did not stop Israeli soliders from raiding and disrupting the service.

    Four years later, Israel has failed to provide any proof that the Palestinian family, any of their children, Rachel and/or ISM has any link to terrorism. Nor there was a tunnel underneath the house to smuggle weapons. In fact, Israel demolished the house that Rachel tried to protect. And ISM is now nominated to receive the Nobel Peace Price with special recognition to Rachel Corrie. In her memories many streets in Palestine were named after her, so were new-born baby girls, and women’s empowerment centers. Documantaries about her life were made in every country, even Israel.

    America acted cold-blooded in the death of Rachel Corrie, but screamed bloody murder regarding the kidnapping and death of Jewish-American reporter Daniel Pearl in 2002. I remember the outrage, public condemnations, and call for justice. Mr. Pearl was equally killed in a brutal way. The master mind of his murder is now in U.S. custody. In 1985, when a 69 year-old Jewish-American, Leon Klinghoffer was murdered aboard the hijacked Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro in the Mediterranean, U.S. fighter jets intercepeted the Eygptian plane carrying his killer and forced it to land in Italy. His killers are now serving jail time. In 2003, US special forces in Iraq arrested the master-mind of the cruise ship hijacking. He died later of a heart attack in US custody.

    Every red-blooded American should have been outraged by the death of Rachel Corrie. Her picture never made it to the front page, and even a Maryland College newspaper cartoonist depicted her as a stupid girl. The Wall Street Journal shamelessly accused her of being a terrorist sympathizer. The truth of the matter is, Rachel was a brilliant and brave American who stood for peace and justice. She had a rare courage and unflinching determination.

    It is about time that our government stopped catering to Israel and its powerful lobby in the United States. It is a travesty of justice that an American citizen was killed in cold blood by Israel with no condemnation or investigation. Who will hold Israel responsible and call for a full and transparent investigation in the tragic death of Rachel Corrie? Justice delayed is justice denied!

    As her former teacher said, “Rachel had a big heart that was hard to carry.” A heart that is bigger than Texas. Rachel Corrie deserves the Congressional Medal of Honor.

    Mahmoud El-Yousseph, TSGT / USAF [Ret.]

  72. #72 by Ruth Bernstein on December 2, 2009 - 5:18 pm

    Mahmoud El-Yousseph December 2, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    I am not against discussion as long as it’s respectful and polite…Enemies of this site would love nothing more that seeing this list members putting each other down or tearing each other up.

    Posters, please take note of these wise words of my favorite Mulim intellectual, Mahmoud El-Yousseph, who has written many fine articles for this site.

    Mahmoud clearly wants more respect for hated and persecuted minorities.

    Well done, Mahmoud. You are making progress in compassion. Keep up the good work.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I have to say, I don’t like this Darkmoon character very much. Attacking everyone on this site. She should apologize to Jalid for her bipolar behavior.

  73. #73 by Long Beach California on December 2, 2009 - 7:16 pm

    WhiteChrist,

    I am indeed much younger than 40. I will take you up on the authors. My point was not to insist that Christianity as a faith had no interest in establishing societal change and norms, merely that Christ(p) himself had an emphasis on the personal in his ministry. Any further insights or disagreements from the commentators is welcomed as I find authentic Christian history almost as hard to come by in West as authentic (not necessarily revisionist) jewish and WW2 history.

  74. #74 by Jalid on December 2, 2009 - 8:10 pm

    From Mark Glenn,
    “–note from me, MG–FOR THE RECORD, JALID OR WHOEVER–Darkmoon is a dear friend of mine and NOT a plant/asset of any type, and if there is anyone I will not tolerate being accused being such it is she.”

    From the thread
    “Former Secret Agent for Shin Bet R*th Now Threatening to Shut Down Theuglytruth” ..

    Darkmoon,
    “I have reason to believe that “Jalid the Palestinian” is either a Mossad or ADL agent doing his best to discredit the Palestinian cause by his ridiculous ravings — ”

    Mark your forum is not, I believe, a place for only your friends to come and discuss the future of my country without “outsiders” like me, interference, correct?
    You are a good judge and a good man.
    I dont know her past or any other specifics but i do know is what i see. And what i saw was a terrible attack.
    I reflect the true inner feelings of every Palestinian, arab and honest human AFTER THE LEBANON AND GAZA MASSACRES.
    And we say it loudly All jews in Palestine are at fault for what happens to my people it is not ONLY a Jewish Maffia. thats preposterous, mark.
    that is called mimnimising the fault to a few unreachable individuals. i believe anyones mere presence in palestine is prove of sharing and taking active part of the crime of colonitation of my HOMELAND.
    If you want to defend her fine but please READ ALSO the and hominem she types.

  75. #75 by Jalid on December 2, 2009 - 8:29 pm

    Another thing you got to also take notice of is that she attacked me a few days after what went on another thread where there was also turmoil when Ms Campbell from Marwamedia exposed Her sister Xanadu.
    All this started when i pointed out that Israel Shamir seems like a hypocrit.
    I dont care Mark all you got to do is let me know and i will just sit out and watch as strangers discuss the future om MY COUNTRY.
    But you and you friends will need to remember,

    IT IS MY COUNTRY

    Palestine is not a Piñata!

  76. #76 by Jalid on December 2, 2009 - 8:34 pm

    Another reason for this attack maybe that i pointed out to Mister Nathanael from Real Zionist News that i dont appreciate him calling Islam “the religion of lies”.

    It looks like the Sweet Truth does get you a few good friends at the end
    :) :) :)

  77. #77 by Jalid on December 2, 2009 - 10:19 pm

    Here it is,
    the absolute piece of evidence that proves that this fictional character that goes by the name of Darkmoon is lying,
    Scroll back up and read:

    “So I called him a Mossad agent in retaliation.”
    in realiation to what?
    I never saw this lady in here before! never!
    This is her again,
    “Try and understand, however, that I AM NOT A JEW and to be called a Jew by Jalid is a way of discrediting and insulting me,
    So I called him a Mossad agent in retaliation.”

    The first time i ever saw her was when She showed up at the thread
    “Former Secret Agent for Shin Bet R*th Now Threatening to Shut Down Theuglytruth”
    where she begins her insults right away.
    So dont tell it was retaliation,
    you may call it a preemptive attack, yes!

  78. #78 by Jalid on December 2, 2009 - 10:31 pm

    And thats why i remembered;
    “He can invent a new lie every day for the enemy to respond to, and the result is that the enemy spends so much time defending himself that he has no time to do what the Jew really fears: to attack”

  79. #79 by Jalid on December 2, 2009 - 10:59 pm

    Thanks Ruth
    Even though you are a jew I respect you better than many
    because at leat you are a good soldier.
    you are clear in what you want. the well being of your kind even though WRONG.
    you are true and CLEAR IN your ideology.
    You say it openly,
    “I took this land, it is now mine, you want it, come and take it back”
    you are a good solier
    A good jew soldier whose corpse deserves proper kosher burial after the battle is over.
    :) he he he :)

  80. #80 by Long Beach California on December 3, 2009 - 3:25 am

    Kosher burial? Does that involve slating the earth?

  81. #81 by Long Beach California on December 3, 2009 - 3:26 am

    * Sorry, that’s salting the earth- it’s been a long day and I have fat fingers.

  82. #82 by The Prodigal Son on December 3, 2009 - 11:10 am

    Seeking Truth,

    A practical application for Palestine ?

    I think for the most part – Palestinians are already doing pretty much all they can do.

    Peaceful resistance and whenever possible non-violence is the prescription… but this is sometimes hard to swallow in this real world, as we know…

    How has this philosophy helped ? The whole world is watching Palestine more intently than ever. Awareness increases exponentially every day.

    The Yids are limited now more than they’ve ever been… The Goldstone report is where we’re at now, and with it comes some hope of the overdue prosecution of the war criminals that call themselves I.D.F.

    The U.S.A. is not a Christian nation !

    All those who call themselves Christian are not necessarily really Christians ! Just as there are many who call themselves ‘Jews’, but are clearly not.

    As for the Christians, we shall know them by their fruits… therefore the reactions you speak of were clearly NOT Christian – and were in fact engineered in advance in both cases you speak of, and in many others as well.

    I am not ‘playing the game by their rules’… I try to live my life according to God’s rules. THEY play by NO rules, as Ruth Bernstein will proudly admit. If I were playing by their rules, the rules would have been tossed out the window.

    To L.B.C.,

    John 15:13 is hardly a call to ‘Jihad’ !

    It says the greatest love is to die for your brother, NOT to KILL for your brother ! See John 13:34…

    “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.”

    So how did Christ love us ?

    Many religions and philosophies teach people to love one another… What makes Christ’s commandment here new is the MEASURE required of our love:

    We must love as Christ loved us – laying down His life not only for His friends, but even for His enemies.

  83. #83 by Xanadu on December 3, 2009 - 12:07 pm

    To Jalid

    I respect all your ideas about Darkmoon and me. All I can say to you, in all truth and honesty, is that you are barking up the wrong tree. In plain English: you have got the entire situation wrong.

    Mark Glenn says he is Darkmoon’s friend because he has more or less checked her out thoroughly and knows much more about her activities on this site and other sites than you do.

    He knows that Darkmoon and I have nothing to do with the recent attack on his site by this R*th character.

    If Mark Glenn had the slightest suspicion that Darkmoon or I were secretly trying to sabotage his site, he would have blocked our posts long ago and made it impossible for us post here.

    The truth is, Mark Glenn has been our anti-Zionist guru for many years and has encouraged us by publishing our articles on his site. By doing this, he has helped to get our writings on Truthseeker and lots of other well-known anti-Zionist sites. And so we are deeply indebted to Mark Glenn, and this is something Mark Glenn knows.

    It follows from this, that if you are right about me and Darkmoon being sinister agents for Israel, that Mark Glenn and at least TEN other highly intelligent anti-Zionist editors have been taken in and deceived.

    Are you seriously suggesting that YOU, with your scant knowledge of Darkmoon and me, have discovered the shocking truth that Darkmoon and I are evil agents of Satan? That we have come here to destroy Mark Glenn, our own guru?

    I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at your arrogance and stupidity.

    I simply feel sorry for you that a red mist of rage has so darkened your mind that you are incapable of seeing one inch in front of your face.

  84. #84 by Xanadu on December 3, 2009 - 12:31 pm

    It is true that Darkmoon and I, who in many ways are indistinguishable, quarreled with Wendy Campbell about Israel Shamir’s credentials.

    Wendy Campbell thought Shamir an imposter and a fake. She called Shamir a “Mossad agent”, even though she had no proof that he was one. She even admitted that she had no proof.

    Darkmoon and I differed on this point and sprung to Shamir’s defence. Wendy Campbell then alleged that Darkmoon WAS Israel Shamir! She said that Darkmoon wrote in a similar style. She therefore implied that Darkmoon was herself a Mossad agent.

    Did Darkmoon get mad at Wendy Campbell? Not really. She was flattered to be identified with Israel Shamir. After all, Shamir is a famous writer.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    At this point, YOU suddenly concluded that Darkmoon was a Mossad agent because Wendy Campbell had said so.

    You began to attack both Shamir and Gilad Atzmon. You crowed: “See, I told you so! Never trust a Jew! All of them are liars!”

    And yet, a few months ago, I remember you praising both Shamir and Gilad Atzmon. You said something like, “Boy, these guys are really different! They don’t speak like other Jews!” Yes, you made exceptions of them. You complimented them. You praised them.

    And suddenly, just because Wendy Campbell attacks Shamir, you do a complete U-turn. Showing your inconsistency. And your logical instability. A good guy you praised yesterday suddenly become a bad guy you abuse today.

    You don’t seem to be capable of forming your own judgements. The simple fact remains: you have NO EVIDENCE that Shamir is a Mossad agent. Nor can you provide a single quotation to prove that Shamir is a bad man who has betrayed Palestine.

  85. #85 by Xanadu on December 3, 2009 - 12:47 pm

    Wendy Campbell and Darkmoon were both mature enough to settle their differences. Darkmoon apologized to Wendy Campbell for speaking to her disrespectfully. Wendy graciously accepted Darkmoon’s apology.

    Wendy Campbell and Darkmoon were never enemies. They both knew they were on the same side. So they forgave each other for any incivilities they had exchanged.

    A month later, Wendy Campbell’s husband, Mark Green, sent a personal email to Darkmoon, praising her for an article she had written and inviting her to drop in and visit him and his wife in Palm Springs…if ever Darkmoon happened to be in that area.

    Darkmoon was pleased with this invitation, for it proved to her that Wendy Campbell bore her no ill-will and was a really nice woman.

    Darkmoon is full of forgiveness for anyone who abuses her and later on says “Sorry”. She always forgives. And she asks me to tell you she is saddened by your anger and wishes you could forgive her for any offence she caused you.

  86. #86 by Xanadu on December 3, 2009 - 12:54 pm

    Palestinian Christian and ex-Jew Israel Shamir: Does thi sound like a Mossad agent:

    “The Jews” — Shamir makes a distinction between organized Jewry and individual Jews — “intend to turn Jerusalem into the supreme capital of the world, and its rebuilt temple into the focal point of the Spirit on Earth.” Should they succeed, unspeakable despair will follow. “Christianity will die, the spirit will depart from the nations in our part of the world, and our present dubious democracy will be supplanted by a vast theocratic state. . . . De-spiritualized and uprooted, homeless and lonely, yesterday’s Masters of the World [non-Jews] will become slaves in all but name.”

  87. #87 by Xanadu on December 3, 2009 - 1:17 pm

    One final point:I agree with you that the 94 per cent of Israeli Jews who gave their consent to the Gaza massacres last year are evil Jews.

    The other 6 per cent who did NOT give their consent are not so evil, but you regard them as moderately evil for living in Palestine on stolen land.

    Neither Darkmoon nor I disagree in the slightest with you on this point.

    Where we differ is this: we do not believe that the probem is going to be solved by demanding the MASS EXTERMINATION of these 94 per cent “evil Jews” plus these 6 per cent of “moderately evil Jews”.

    We believe that cutting off 5.5 million heads is not the solution, dear Jalid. You must come up with a more civilized solution!

    As for the millions of Jews in the diaspora, I don’t think all these Jews support Israel or are the enemies of mankind. I am sure there are good Jews to be found among them. My sister and I have actually met some good Jews. We would hate to see them punished for the crimes of their misguided brothers.

    Understand this, Jalid: we are sympathetric to your views on the whole. All we expect from you is more moderation.

    Put you blood-spattered sword back in its scabbard and take up your trusty pen instead. You are eloquent and write well. Use your many fine talents on behalf of the suffering people of Palestine.

    I and Darkmoon offer you the hand of friendship now. We hope you will take it.

  88. #88 by Seeking Truth on December 3, 2009 - 5:40 pm

    Prodigal son,

    While I see your POV, I am afraid your mindset is the reason EVIL has become so much stronger. Self-defense is sacred in all cultures, religions,….

    I agree with you that these wicked creatures calling themselves are not “jews”. It really matters not what race they have; it matters not what they call themselves, or what religion they claim to. What matters is their track record in deeds throught history, and for that we promise the devil’s creed will pay handsomely soon.

  89. #89 by Jalid on December 3, 2009 - 11:45 pm

    Busted!
    Darkmoon and Xanadu ARE the same person!
    Darkmoon never posted at the thread where Xanadu was exposed!
    It was all Xanadu, Ms Campbell, Ladybat myself and a few others.
    You just tripped big time, Xanadu
    This memory lapse added to your four previous posts, seals the deal!
    You, Darkmoon and Lalala Pandora ARE the same person!
    Anyone can go to the following thread and check it for themselves!
    The thread is just a few pages back. It is called:

    A Jew offers fellow Jews 17 points to stop anti-Semitism

    Scroll down from the fiftieth comment on and verify!

    Then come back here and read this:
    “Wendy Campbell and Darkmoon were both mature enough to settle their differences. Darkmoon apologized to Wendy Campbell for speaking to her disrespectfully. Wendy graciously accepted Darkmoon’s apology.”

    All comments have you name on them!
    Why Xanadu?
    why all these complications?

  90. #90 by Xanadu on December 4, 2009 - 9:43 am

    Message to Mark Glenn re Jalid

    Dear Mark,

    In the interests of free speech, I would ask you not to censor any of my future posts — unless I am personally abusive to you (which is unlikely!) or to anyone else on this site.

    Above all, I would ask you not to censor any of Jalid’s future posts. If he abuses me or Darkmoon personally, please let him do so. My sister and I don’t mind at all!

    Jalid is a most intelligent poster and a man I much admire, but he is given to the wildest conspiracy theories.

    If ever Jalid should claim on this site that Darkmoon and I are “EVIL JEWS”, or “MOSSAD AGENTS”, or indeed that Darkmoon and I are the “SAME PERSON”, please let him have his say.

    Darkmoon and I smile at these wild allegations. We are used to them. We find them extremely amusing. So Jalid, if you are reading this: please feel free to abuse me and my sister as much as you want!

    If you want to be friends, however, no problem. We are here. And we extend to you the hand of friendship.

  91. #91 by Arabia-Felix on December 4, 2009 - 5:22 pm

    What are “mossad agents” doing on Websites talking??

    Aren’t they supposed to be busy concocting the next terror plot,
    may God put it to failure, inshallah.

    Obama in his last Afghanistan speach said tht “as i speak,they are planning in afghanistan and swat the next terror plot,blah blah”.

    Who is planning?

    And what kind of plot this time??

    A “collonel” on Alex Jones show the other day said that “radical Muslims and radical christians are becoming buddy,buddy,so to speak”.

    Is this coming new twist meant to kill TWO BIRDS with ONE STONE?

    he said that radical Muslims are crossing the Mexico border,and they are carrying with them the SCARY “Qur’an”.

    He said they even found a tell tale, of a place they stayed.

    Yeah, they left the Qur’an behind .

    Do those guys ever understand that radical militant Muslims do
    not need to carry the Qur’an with them to wherever they go, SIMPLY because they don’t need to, they do memorise the WHOLE
    by HEART.

    They don’t need to carry it with them IN PARTICULAR when they are going to STRIP TEASE, sipping VODKA, a day before their demise.

  92. #92 by Jalid on December 4, 2009 - 10:45 pm

    Busted and case closed!

    “Wendy Campbell and Darkmoon were both mature enough to settle their differences. Darkmoon apologized to Wendy Campbell for speaking to her disrespectfully. Wendy graciously accepted Darkmoon’s apology.”

    Darkmoon and Xanadu ARE the same person!
    Darkmoon never posted at the thread where Xanadu was exposed!
    On that thread it was all Xanadu, Ms Campbell, Ladybat myself and a few others.
    You just tripped big time, Xanadu
    This memory lapse added to your previous posts, seals the deal!
    You, Darkmoon and Lalala Pandora ARE the same person!
    Anyone can go to the following thread and check it out for themselves!
    The thread is just a few pages back. It is called:

    “A Jew offers fellow Jews 17 points to stop anti-Semitism”

    Scroll down from the fiftieth comment on and verify!

    All comments have Xanadu´s name on them!

    CASE CLOSED.

  93. #93 by Xanadu on December 5, 2009 - 7:05 pm

    JALID: “All comments have Xanadu´s name on them! CASE CLOSED.”

    There is a simple explanation for this, Jalid. Darkmoon and I share the same family computer. Mark Glenn will confirm that we share the same IP number. All this was revealed long ago on this site before you got here.

    Sometimes we forget to change the name in the NAME BOX. More often, we don’t other. Why should we? One name is as good as another.

    For your information, even my mother and father use the same family computer.

    Yesterday my Mom made an appointment with the local hairdresser. Guess what? The hairdresser emailed back and said: “I don’t understand. Who is “Darkmoon”? Have you changed your name, or is there someome called “Darkmoon” who wishes for a hairdo?”

    I will give more details later.

    Basically, we are two sisters: LASHA DARKMOON (posting as “Xanadu” on this site) and my sister LALARA PANDORA (= LP Pandora).

    Sometimes my sister LP Pandora posts here, but leaves the name “Xanadu” or “Darkmoon” in the name box from a PREVIOUS POST.

    Sorry to disappoint you, Jalid, but you haven’t “busted” me at all. What’s the crime supposed to be? Using a “false name”?

    Aren’t MOST posters on this site using false names, including yourself? :)

  94. #94 by The Prodigal Son on December 5, 2009 - 10:41 pm

    Jalid,

    Why are you so quick to accuse ?

    I can tell you that I have been on this website for quite a while, and I think you’re wrong.

    These ladies have told you that they are sisters… Xanadu typing, gave you messages of apology from Darkmoon.

    Have you considered that (since they’re sisters) maybe Darkmoon was posting on that thread from Xanadu’s computer ?

    Here’s what happens when I shut my computer off, then return to it the next day… or even several days later…

    When I visit The Ugly Truth and I want to comment – MY NAME AND E-MAIL ARE STILL SIGNED IN !

    So Darkmoon didn’t have to enter her name and E-mail, all she had to do was comment & hit ‘submit’.

    This is just one alternative scenario that may have taken place to explain what you THINK you perceive.

    I guess I must be Mossad now too, right ?

    Just because we don’t want to kill all the (fake) ‘Jews’ – doesn’t mean we are spies !

    C’mon Jalid, we’re all on the same team here on this site… we all do our part… even Ruth Bernstein (whether she knows it or not!).

    Whaddya say – how about a round of PEACE, on the house ?

  95. #95 by Jalid on December 6, 2009 - 12:31 am

    Prodigal son, go back to the thread i mentioned and check for yourselve
    Xanadu says that in it Darkmoon apologised
    When Darkmoon wasnt in it at all.
    it was her in it.
    Just stop gang banging, will ya?
    I ill never stop asking for Justice for the dead children of my homeland!
    IT IS MY COUNTRY
    IT IS MY PEOPLE

  96. #96 by LP Pandora (Xanadu's sister) on December 6, 2009 - 12:36 am

    Prodigal Son,

    How come you never told us you were such a genius? You have hit the nail on the head exactly! Xanadu and I ARE sisters and we USE THE SAME COMPUTER. This explains everything.

    Here is proof from an old thread:

    [1] Lasha Darkmoon March 23, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    In the interests of honesty and transparency, I want to make it clear that the name “Xanadu” is one of my pen names. The reason I use this name above is because Friend of the Goyim knows me as “Xanadu” from another website. I may use the name “Xanadu” again in preference to “Lasha Darkmoon”.

    [2] LP Pandora March 25, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    My sister Lasha and I, though we share the same family computer, like to make make occasional use of the library computers in our local town. (We live in rural Devon, England). Sadly, we are no longer able to access Mark Glenn’s exellent website from our local library. I just thought I’d like to tell you this because the censorship situation in getting really scary now.

    [3] Lasha Darkmoon March 25, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    I may not be in a position to respond to any queries (re my article) for the next week or so because my computer is being disconnected while the room in which it is kept is being completely renovated.

    Nor can I post here from the public library because, as my sister LP Pandora has revealed on the latest thread, access to Mark Glenn’s website has been blocked by the British Thought Police.

    And here is the final proof that Xanadu (Lasha Darkmoon) and Lalara are sisters using the same computer: they are posting AT THE SAME TIME:

    [4] Lalara & Xanadu March 26, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    To Man From Atlan
    March 25, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    Such a pleasure to hear from you again, dear Naseer. We have so missed hearing from you. Do keep in touch and send us a few wise words from time to time.

    Lalara & Xanadu.

    All this can be checked out here on a thread posted on 20 March, 2009.

    http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/obama-blinks-the-lobby-gloats/#comments

  97. #97 by honest Joe on December 6, 2009 - 12:59 am

    @Fr. John: It is rather suspicious that you promote the ‘Anglo-Israel’ theory………….tell me, what else are you promoting?
    We don’t need anymore white supremacists in the truth movement, and this includes you, buddy{and I happen to be a Gentile ‘white’ as well, so don’t even think about starting with the racial epithets.}.

  98. #98 by Sardonicus on December 6, 2009 - 2:05 pm

    Jalid December 6, 2009 at 12:31 am

    Prodigal son, go back to the thread i mentioned and check for yourselve
    Xanadu says that in it Darkmoon apologised
    When Darkmoon wasnt in it at all.

    *

    With all due respects to you, Jalid, you simply have not understood what LP Pandora has said in her detailed post. You just don’t seem to be able to get your brain round it.

    You say “XANADU says DARKMOON apologized when DARKMOON wasn’t in it.”

    True: but firstly, Xanadu is NOT denying that she is Darkmoon or that Darkmoon is Xanadu. She has already admitted it openly. Xanadu IS Darkmoon.

    Secondly, Xanadu was NOT the one posting under the name of “Xanadu”. It was her SISTER LP PANDORA who was was posting UNDER HER SISTER XANADU’S NAME. Understand?

    This is because they USE THE SAME COMPUTER — and they don’t always remember to change the name in the name box! Understand?

    I am sorry that you cannot see this.

    I have known these sisters for a long time on other sites. I trust them. I think the point made by Prodigal Son is a good one. I trust him too.

    You are one in the wrong here, Jalid. But you are too proud to admit it.

  99. #99 by Sardonicus on December 6, 2009 - 2:21 pm

    Anyway, why are you attacking these innocent sisters? Is it because Xanadu refused to give you her email address when you wanted her to read your novel?

    Do you bear a grudge against her for this?

    Just because you love your people does not give you a right to attack others whose only fault is a failure to agree with you on every point.

    I don’t agree with you either. Not on the mass murder of the Jews. I don’t want to kill all the Jews in the world just to demonstrate my love of Palestine.

    So what are you trying to do, Jalid? Drive these sisters away from this site beause you can’t bear them to say NO to the mass extermination of the Jews?

    You want everyone on this site to agree with you that killing all the Jews in the world is the answer to the Jewish problem?

    Sorry, Jalid. I can’t agree with you. I back the sisters one hundred per cent.

    I am against mass murder.

  100. #100 by Jalid the Palestinian on December 6, 2009 - 8:17 pm

    Okay, what about this?

    Lalara Pandora April 11, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Xanadu is my sister, better known as Lasha Darkmoon, author of several anti-Zionist articles widely published on the internet. I’d like to assure you that she is NOT trying to make Christianity a “tool of the Jews”; nor is she trying to “silence” any goys, “enraged” or otherwise! Blah blah blah …

    Netanyahu To The West–Destroy Iran Before Israel Destroys You

    Now, compare that to this (just above on this thread)
    From Xanadu,
    “Darkmoon and I smile at these wild allegations. We are used to them. We find them extremely amusing. So Jalid, if you are reading this: please feel free to abuse me and my sister as much as you want!”

    And to this: From Xanadu,

    “There is a simple explanation for this, Jalid. Darkmoon and I share the same family computer. Mark Glenn will confirm that we share the same IP number. All this was revealed long ago on this site before you got here”.

    And to this:
    From Xanadu:
    “If ever Jalid should claim on this site that Darkmoon and I are “EVIL JEWS”, or “MOSSAD AGENTS”, (never did, that was all you) or indeed that Darkmoon and I are the “SAME PERSON”, please let him have his say. “

    Well. It’s been now proven beyond a shred of a doubt!
    cant find it in my heart to forgive you for all this.

  101. #101 by Jalid the Palestinian on December 6, 2009 - 8:20 pm

    “Xanadu is my sister, better known as Lasha Darkmoon, ”
    from a few moths ago,

    Juxtaposed to

    “or indeed that Darkmoon and I are the “SAME PERSON”, please let him have his say.”

    A few days ago….
    And show mw were am i wrong.

  102. #102 by Jalid the Palestinian on December 6, 2009 - 8:32 pm

    Actually here is a better way,
    Juxtapose

    “Xanadu is my sister, better known as Lasha Darkmoon, ”

    from a few months ago,
    to,
    “Message from Xanadu to Mark Glenn re Jalid,
    If ever Jalid should claim on this site that Darkmoon and I are the “SAME PERSON”, please let him have his say”

  103. #103 by Sardonicus on December 7, 2009 - 8:53 am

    I can’t make head or tails of what you’re saying. You are so terribly confused. Can’t you understand that Xanadu is NOT DENYING that she is Lasha Darkmoon. What Xanadu IS denying is tha she is the author of ALL the posts written UNDER THE NAME OF “XANADU”.

    The name “Xanadu” may appear in the name box, but Xanadu is denying that she is the author of ALL such posts bearing her name.

    She is claiming that her sister LP Pandora wrote those posts. But forgot to change the name in the name box.

    This is because they USE THE SAME COMPUTER. (Something they revealed 6 months ago).

    You are blaming Xanadu for something her sister wrote.

  104. #104 by Sardonicus on December 7, 2009 - 9:14 am

    JALID: “Well. It’s been now proven beyond a shred of a doubt!
    cant find it in my heart to forgive you for all this.”

    Let’s assume you are right and Xanadu wrote all the posts you claim she wrote.

    How does this affect you?

    If Xanadu wrote all those posts you claim she wrote, she was engaged in an argument with WENDY CAMPBELL. She was attacking Wendy Campbell beause Wendy Campbell was attacking her.

    What does this have to do with you? What business is this of yours? Was Xanadu attacking YOU? Did she mention your name ONCE?

    No, she din’t!

    “Can’t find it in my heart to forgive you for all this…” you say. Really? Forgive what? Can you explain what crime has been committed against you?

    The only crime committed agaist you, as far as I can see, is that you were left out of the argument and no one paid the slightest attention to you!

    Yes, “Jalid the Palestinian” was ignored!

    Wy don’t you get yourself a life and actually post something on this site with factual information?

    A bus blows up in Israel and five Jews die. Your response is to bring this to the attention of other posters on this site and crow: “Hey, ain’t that great! Five dead Jews! Yipee!”

    You expect us all to cheer? To applaud your brilliance? To pat you on the back for your bloodthirsty and moronic genius?

    Forget it.

    I challenge you to tell me what wrong these sisters have done you.

    What exactly is their crime?

  105. #105 by Jalid on December 7, 2009 - 8:34 pm

    Sardonicus,
    I can’t make head or tails of what you’re saying.

    should be replaced with

    “I can’t make head or tails of what is going on”

    Thats why i ask to either step aside or go thru every post and thread, analize then judge.
    If you dont like me because of a previous encounter
    or because you are here for amusement and jumped in taking sides with the most attractive of the two sides,
    then thats different.
    to be a good judge you need to be a good human first and have good intentions..

  106. #106 by Jalid on December 7, 2009 - 8:37 pm

    Prodigal Son,

    I AM according to your friends:

    “A coward, a lunatic and a shout, a pathetic slob who rants and raves, one who openly calls for the mass murder of 15 million people, Jalid the Jewish Mole, Mad Arab who wants to kill every Jew on Planet Earth, (never said that, by the way)….his mad agenda of mass murder… you apology for a human being, I won’t even bother to spit in your face, (cant anyway unless your spit is mounted on an “Israeli” missile), moron, Stupid fool, you deserve nothing but contempt…low IQ idiots like yourself, pathetic coward, … cretin …” “I have reason to believe that “Jalid the Palestinian” is either a Mossad or ADL agent doing his best to discredit the Palestinian cause by his ridiculous ravings — etc etc etc”

    Okay now, you say you are a good Christian. You say you are a good judge; a good judge investigates the case and comes to a conclusion after reviewing the evidence and patterns of conduct while building a behavioral profile of BOTH sides, correct?
    I have hereby presented you, dear “Judge” a few of the respectful and polite reverences i have gotten from Dark Moon so far.

  107. #107 by Jalid on December 7, 2009 - 8:38 pm

    On the other hand,
    I HAVE NEVER USED A BAD WORD IN HERE nor have I killed anyone…
    So, Do you notice a pattern in her constant defense of the Jews whom I have done nothing to except for being alive and kicking, except for being a Palestinian who gets in their way , except for merely “wishing” on their deaths for what they do to my people EEEVVVVERY single day??
    This is a clear case of someone who is deliberately taking everyone’s attention AWAY from the main issue at hand who in this case and in that specific situation was a Mr. Roth, Jeffrey. “Attorney at law And Poker tournaments professional.”
    This it is a clear case of deflection. A deflection thru smoking mirrors. God cop bad cop maneuvering from the SAME person, playing two characters.
    Exhausting the precious valuable energy that could rightly be used instead on EXPOSING THE KILLERS OF CHRIST?
    What do you want me to post?
    Politically corrected symbiotic Ass kissing?
    Israeli Shamir´s comments who says “Israel proper” without the quotation marks like three hundred times in every damned essay he writes?
    What about sending him money? Do you want me to do that too?
    What about having me arrested at four o´ clock in the morning?

  108. #108 by Jalid on December 7, 2009 - 8:40 pm

    Prodigal Son,
    “I guess I must be Mossad now too, right?”

    Hell, I don’t know! That’s not my department,
    I have never accused anyone of such thing.
    If you find a quote from me on that please post it here.
    That department, Sunshine is handled by Darkmoon and co. …”

    Darkmoon,
    “I have reason to believe that “Jalid the Palestinian” is either a Mossad or ADL agent”
    Dont be so quick too judge for you may end up victimising someone then you would feel worse.

  109. #109 by Jalid on December 7, 2009 - 8:49 pm

    Sardonicus
    you say
    “What does this have to do with you? What business is this of yours? Was Xanadu attacking YOU? Did she mention your name ONCE?”
    Oh yes, she did! And because we wouldnt accepr her apologies she waited a few days looked for a excuse and then attacked me at the roth Brawl.
    here,

    Here is Xanadu, again in that infamous, for her, thread
    1. “The only difference here is that there are some Palestinians, like Jalid and LADYBAT, with Their demands which are so extreme that nothing would satisfy them but the systematic slaughter of every Jew in Israel and the total destruction of every Jew in the Diaspora.”
    This is rage. It’s as if the blood in their veins was gasoline and someone had just set a match to it.
    Such irrational hotheads do not help the situation. I will not even bother to enter into argument with them. They are beyond the reach of reason.”
    continued below …

  110. #110 by Jalid on December 7, 2009 - 8:51 pm

    Continuation…
    BUT people!,
    Ladybat had not said such things! Xanadu attacked her because she is a great writer! A THREAT to THEM.

    This HERE IS A QUOTE FROM LADYBAT addressed to me! READ IT AND JUDGE:
    Do not let your anger turn you into a monster no better than the Zionist Nazis my dear Jalid.

    Palestinian people will not become what their enemy is. They will not ever be that monster.
    Because I know the Palestinian people as well as I know myself and they are the most forgiving and merciful people on this earth and they are not bad. Not one single Palestinian is bad nor can be blamed for any thing he has done since Palestine was given to the European Jews by the criminal meddling Brits.

    Because you are Palestinian. And Palestinians are the best people in this world. And you will not be something that you are not. You are more strong than that! ..

    I want Palestine returned to its rightful people. To be governed by its rightful people. I want no less than this. But you must remember to be just and fair if God gives you the chance to have that again. You must be better than the enemy you now are forced to fight.”

    YOU SEE?
    Now where is ladybat “Demanding “extreme things” that nothing would satisfy them but the systematic slaughter of every Jew in Israel and the total destruction of every Jew in the Diaspora.”?

    Where?
    Now, there is the prove!
    You can visit the thread and check it out for yourselves!
    “A Jew offers fellow Jews 17 points to stop anti-Semitism”
    And maybe you will then agree with me that their job is to discredit and attack any well spoken person they consider Dangerous to their Agenda!
    THE ONLY PEOPLE THEY would like to see IN places like the Ugly Truth ARE PEOPLE THEY CAN PATRONISE!

  111. #111 by Jalid on December 7, 2009 - 8:56 pm

    Xanadu and “Her Sisters” are succeeding in having everyones attention focus on me, an innocent man while the monsters they defend walk free of charge,
    Thats Amazing!
    I am now being also stripped of my identity as a Palestinian!
    Good thing there is a God that sees all.

  112. #112 by The Prodigal Son on December 8, 2009 - 3:10 am

    Jalid,

    My friend, please – it’s time to let this go.

    We all sorrow for Palestine ! If you want to truly know Lasha Darkmoon (AKA Xanadu) & her sister… then may I suggest you go WAY BACK, as far as you can go into the archives here, read all of the comments and articles attributed to them and find out !

    Trust me, Jalid – they might as well BE Palestinians – they have stood firmly in defence of Palestine for as long as I have been here.

    It’s time to move along… as you said: there are much more important issues to discuss here.

    If you truly care for Palestine, then keep your eye on the ball Jalid ! If you trust me – you will do this.

    Keep in mind here the big picture, man ! This is Mark Glenn’s website, and there are those who would love nothing more than to see it SHUT DOWN.

    Wishing for the deaths of ninety seven percent of ‘Jews’ could conceivably go a long way towards making that happen ! You don’t hear Mark Glenn talk like that – do you ?

    Don’t you understand that the ADL and the Simon Weisenthal Center are DEFINITELY monitoring this website ? Your words could be on Abraham Foxman’s desk RIGHT NOW !

    Ruth Bernstein now sides with you, for she wants you to continue publicly wishing for the deaths of ‘Jews’ here on the website of her adopted arch-nemesis: Mark Glenn.

    Tell me Jalid – do you want to be responsible for silencing Mark’s voice here ? And the voices of all those who also have avoice here ? Because I assure you – Mark’s is a loud voice for Palestine… now heard all over the world.

    Peace in Christ Jalid, peace in Christ.

  113. #113 by Xanadu on December 8, 2009 - 10:32 am

    The Prodigal Son December 8, 2009 at 3:10 am

    Jalid,

    My friend, please – it’s time to let this go.

    Absolutely. I say ‘Amen’ to all this. Seldom have I read a post in which I agree with every word that has been said.

    Basically, Jalid, time to move on. Keep your eye on the ball. If you have suspicions about me and Lalara — that we are “cryptos”, as you recently said — that’s okay. We don’t mind.

    But we have a right to object to any extremist statements you make which endanger this website.

    Consider carefully Prodigal Son’s point that your most enthusiastic supporter on this site is now Ruth Bernstein.

    Why is that, Jalid? Ask yourself that. It’s because you are doing her work for her in a way that she herself cannot do it.

    You are bringing the Palestinian cause into disrepute. You are making true Palestinians ashamed to BE Palestinians.

    If you cannot see this, there is not much hope for you.

  114. #114 by Jalid on December 8, 2009 - 1:56 pm

    Its all about politcs, Prodigal Son. What happened here Its almost like in the real world. A country sides with another because of this or that. Sometimes its revenge sometimes its old brawls sometimes its money sometimes its favours.
    What a cold world this is.
    At the end the Palestinians and their cause got used by the West and even by the Arabs who took advantage of the situation.
    I have lost my pretty Palestine and no one cares, prodigal son. It is just so unfair.

  115. #115 by Jalid on December 8, 2009 - 3:14 pm

    I will never forgive you, you hypocrit woman! I dont care what you say now! you could have uttered all this sweet talk at the beginning instead of what you did when you came dressed as Darkmoon.
    I never disrespected you. never!
    Ruth is better than you because she is a soldier of her cause.
    you mess peoples head up becvause you are bored not respecting that some people really are hurting.

    what you did to Ladybay and me is unacceptable.
    you are a sick person.
    Mark Glenn, thanks for every thing. This is my last post here.

    –Jalid, I consider you an invaluable contributor to this blog and hope you will reconsider.

  116. #116 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on December 8, 2009 - 6:03 pm

    This thread is one of the most agonizing one ever since I joined the Ugly Truth.
    Let me first explain.

    First of all, most of the comments were deviating from the subject on hand.
    Jilad personal dispute with Xanadu and her sister should have been handled privately
    and in more civilized manner. Obviously, that is not possible.

    As far as I am concern, Xanadu and Darkmoon are British by birth, but the are Palestinians by heart.

    Jilad belligerent attitude and refusal to accept their apologies is wrong and arrogant.
    Jilad frequent insult toward anything Jewish is dead wrong and counterproductive.
    Calling as he said for mass extermination of 15 million Jews is bizarre.
    Laughing about the death of 5 innocent Jews recently is also repugnant.

    Few things went through my mind when I was reading his rants about Jews and his frequent isnults:

    Have Jilad ever wondered about the 7 Jewish women who were arrested in Toronto
    in early Jan. This year. They were arrested after they occupied the Israeli consulate in protest to the savage bombardment of Gaza.

    Did Jilad ever thought about all the refuse necks, and High Schooler in Israel who refused a direct order to deploy to Gaza or to the West Bank, faced humiliation and jail time, because they objected to the their government racists and inhumane policies toward Palestinians.

    Is Gilad aware of the French woman who wrote letter to the Israeli President Simon Perez,
    asking him to remove the name of her Holocaust survivor grandmother of the list in Jerusalem. This French women was also Jewish, and wrote the letter in protest of the Israeli Holocaust in Gaza.

    I could site much more, but I think that makes my point.
    Jilad’s many statements on Jews are dangerous. He is falling into the hands of those who wish to the demonized the Palestinians and portrayed them as villains and savages.

    I don’t remember how many times those two sisters did apologized to Jilad on this thread and extended a hand of friendship to him. This is the man who always praises Jesus [pbu] and said that he loves him more than he loves himself. So why not take heeds from him and fellow his commandments as he said, I am par phrasing, ‘ if some one slap you on the right cheek, turn the left cheek to him.”

    Holding grudge does hardened your heart, forgiveness rinses your soul Jilad!
    Those two sisters have praised to the sky in previous thread and you should be mindful and grateful for that.

    I have been called in the past after I enlisted in U.S. military as spy, traitor, and even worse. But deep inside, I know myself better than others who were snarling insults at me.
    You need to swallow your pride sometimes.

    If you have the nerve to praise Ruth Bernstein on this thread after she defamed Palestinians and degraded Arabs and Muslims , then for Pete’s sake, why don’t you forgive these two sisters, who are an adamant supporters of the Palestinian cause. Personally, I do trust them both with my life.

    I was going to ask Mark Glenn to hire cissies management consultans to settle this dispute. It was nerve racking to have to read all these remarks. You started to sound annoying as the next person in the theater who is slurping the last drop of soda pop.
    You may not have noticed that. But I did. And I am sure many other readers did too.

    After all this site has its own crises management team and trouble shooter. So, I am grateful for the words of wisdom displayed by Protigalson, and Sardonicus.
    These two commentors are very respectful and wise. You should listen to and take their advice.

    I was going to express my remarks several month ago, Sorry I have waited too long.
    I view this site as a ProPalestinians 110%. It is not antiJewish. I don’t wanted to be shut down either. That is the reason I stayed in for the last year. And yes, I have learned a lot.

    You have many friends and supporters at this site. Don’t let them down Jilad. Don’t run away homeboy! This is a challenge and a test for you. If you car breaks down, you don’t abonden it, you fix fix it. Listen to Mark Glenn. He knows what is talking about. You will be making a big mistake! Make peace not war!

    Viva Paletina

  117. #117 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on December 8, 2009 - 6:54 pm

    Dear all,

    I have written my previous post with a heavy heart.
    I do have no ill feeling toward Jilad or anyone else on this site. Not even Ruth Berstien.

    The reason I posted that message is out of moral duty. Because I love this site and care a lot about it.

    I felt if Jilad heard from a fellow Palestinian, it may carry more weight.
    I have taken my stand based on religious reason too.
    There is a saying for the prophet Mohammad [pbuh] on the same subject that said:

    1- “those among you who oppresses Christians or Jews, I will be their prosecuting witness on the Day of Judgment.”

    2- ” support you brethren as oppressed or oppressors.” when the companions answered, as oppressed, we understand, but why as an oppressor? He answered , ” help prevent him/her not to oppress others.”

    Finally, there was a saying in Islam for Imam Ali [may God be pleased with him] who said,
    “three classes of people will never see the shade of Heaven; one who oppresses others, the one who aid and provide comfort to the oppressor, and one who remains silent in the face of oppression.”

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