Pastor Terry Jones–All Bark and No Bite When It Comes To Speaking The Truth About Islam and Judaism


Like a barking dog emboldened by the fact a metal fence protects him from a real fight with whomever or whatever is on the other side, Pastor Terry Jones of the infamous Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida has officially announced his membership in the Confraternity of Cowards by refusing an open, honest, civil debate on the religion of Islam with Dr. Hesham Tillawi, President of the Islamic Center located in Lafayette, Louisiana.

After hearing the outrageous claims recently made publicly by Jones concerning the religion of Islam, what its adherents believe and the “threat” that Islam’s “Sharia Law” poses to Christian America, Tillawi issued the challenge to Jones that he put his money where his mouth is by debating the issue publicly in Jones’ hometown, any costs to Jones being reimbursed by Tillawi and Tillawi making the several hundred mile distance trip at his own expense and inconvenience.

Seemingly all-too-eager to get his face in front of a camera to discuss his church’s planned wiener roast of Islam’s most holy book, nevertheless when asked to debate the issue in an intelligent, civil manner with Dr. Tillawi, host of the weekly television program Current Issues, Jones suddenly found himself speechless, saying he does not “debate”, choosing instead to continue forth with the same tactics made famous by Communist and Fascist regimes of the last century–burning books.

Dr. Jones, author of the book “Islam Is Of The Devil”, contends that America is in a period of spiritual crisis, and that what is needed if the land of the free and home of the brave is to return to her Christian roots is a revival of sorts, and burning the Koran publicly is just the way to get the recuperative process going. In naming the plagues threatening the destruction of America’s Christian character, he lists abortion, pornography, gay marriage, and a host of similar moral ills, none of which are related to Islam in any way.

No doubt Jones’ decision to avoid the boxing ring stems from a recent tete-a-tete he had with a Muslim scholar who–after hearing the nonsense spewing forth from the pastor’s mouth–proceeded to take the pastor and his unfounded arguments concerning Islam apart molecule by molecule until there was nothing left except an embarrassing mess on the floor somewhere in Gainesville, Florida.

The interview, taking place on The Ugly Truth Podcast, hosted by independent journalist Mark Glenn and co-hosted by Nashid Abdul Khaaliq of www.ascertainthetruth.com proved to be an absolute disaster for Jones and his public standing. Beginning in an atmosphere of cordiality, nevertheless from there it took a sharp turn into tough issues Jones did not realize he would be asked to explain or discuss. When pressed to describe the co-relation between Islam and the aforementioned moral ills destroying the “Christian character” of America, Jones admitted flat out that Islam had nothing to do with them and that in all honesty America was in no danger of succumbing to the same “Sharia Law” that he contends will destroy everything if not stopped. Furthermore, when pressed to describe the real groups, persons and agendas behind the de-Christianizing of America and the subversion of her moral, political and cultural moorings, Jones admitted that the extremists directing the controlled demolition of American society were not Islamic in character, but rather Jewish. Furthermore, Jones agreed that on September the 11th, he would be burning copies of the Jewish Talmud along with the Koran.

After the airing of this interview, Jones was contacted by several independent journalists with follow-up questions concerning his double-speak with regards to Islam and whether he planned on burning the Talmud as promised. Jones’ first response was to deny that the interview on the Ugly Truth Podcast took place, saying it was a “hoax”, but then when cornered on that issue, admitted that the interview did indeed take place but that he had not said the aforementioned items. When soundfiles of the actual recording featuring him agreeing to burn the Talmud on September 11th were sent to him, leaving him no room to maneuver, he simply broke off all contact and refused any further correspondence. He ended the discussion by saying he had changed his mind about burning the Talmud (despite its hateful depictions of Jesus as a homosexual sorcerer boiling in hell and His mother as a prostitute) saying “We have many Jewish supporters and are thankful for that.”

At present Dr. Tillawi plans upon venturing forth to Gainesville for the proposed debate. Jones showing up for the intellectual boxing match is highly doubtful at this point, given the fact that–like that aforementioned dog sitting safely behind that aforedescribed steel fence, he will only bark when there is no chance he will actually be forced to bite.

Developments as they occur…

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nomorewarsforisrael@gmail.com

  1. #1 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on August 31, 2010 - 3:58 pm

    “…ones suddenly found himself speechless, saying he does not “debate”…”

    MUSSOLINI HA SEMPRE RAGIONE!

    Mussolini is always right, he never debates, he dictates! Terry Jones has signed his membership with INTERNATIONAL FASCISM!

    It is a very sad world where even CHRISTIANS HATE CHRIST!

  2. #2 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on August 31, 2010 - 4:10 pm

    “We have many Jewish supporters and are thankful for that.” TERRY JONES

    Jews not only support, they pay, bribe, blackmail, threaten, frame with prostitutes….! Which kind of suport did Terry Jones mean?

    I read on Jewish Google (it is not there anymore, at least not prominent) that homosexuals, Jews, Socialists, Communists and Whites bribed Baptist Martin Luther King Jr with a cheque of £800,000 to tell his “NEGROES” that he had a dream! He had a nightmare and saw Satan, but he was bribed to tell the stupid crowd (in an already prepared script) that he had a dream when they had come (without him) to storm the Bastille (the White Freemasonic House)!

    Mark Glenn must surely realise that he accomplished a great feat by inviting this Terry Jones scum and cornered him the way he did with BURNING THE TALMUD!

    BRAVO MARK!

  3. #3 by katman on August 31, 2010 - 5:05 pm

    independent journalist Mark Glenn…?????

    well i never…….

  4. #4 by Perry L on August 31, 2010 - 5:06 pm

    Will Dr. Jones be burning Thomas Jefferson’s personal copy of the Qur’an the one Congressman Ellis took his oath of office on (much to the outrage of the ignorant)? It is in the Library of Congress and apparently can be checked out for “special occasions”.

    Why did Jefferson have a Qur’an? Because he was being fed the same nonsense propaganda that Jones is spewing today in 1800 in order to get him to deploy the Marine Corps to Lebanon to defend “American (business) interests” from “Muslims pirates” which he did. Yes the first foreign deployment of US troops was to fight Muslims, signaling the intended use of America by those “business interests” over the next two centuries. Jefferson, being an intelligent and educated individual, decided to get his own copy of the Book and read it for himself. He soon bowed out of national politics and went home to Virginia to start a University, free his slaves and start a “crusade” for religious freedom. Jefferson died surrounded by his freed slaves…the only “friends” he had left in the world. He also buried the hatchet with his old rival John Adams and commiserated with him in a series of letters about the unfortunate direction the country was taking in the 1820′s (like the Monroe Doctrine).

  5. #5 by katman on August 31, 2010 - 5:16 pm

    jewish roots of wahhabism and other issues of importance…..

    http://islamic-intelligence.blogspot.com/2009/10/are-saudi-royal-family-jewish.html

    so let me get this straight. jews started this wahhabism sect for whatever reasons. and jews masquerading as arabs control saudi arabia and other “arabic” countries…. so there jews are. stealing arab monies and living high on hog (oops)… so to speak, at the expense of the indigenous arabs (children of Edom), of that land and above all else, jews are controlling the holy places of Islam. don’t you just love it when a plan comes together?

  6. #6 by R.R. on August 31, 2010 - 5:26 pm

    Don’t count on this lousy excuse for a man and disgrace to Ministry HYPOCRITE LIAR to show up for any debate. He’ll be at the White Throne before God being Judged one day though… count on it.

    The whole IMmoral Majority of men like this began like the Religious Right and NeoCons began in the 80′s under false Conservatives Reagan the Astrology Bohemian Grove boyyy and his puppet-master Bush Sr./Magog of the #322 Skull & Bones at Yale. And who knows, maybe he’s a high Freemason like some other real famous “Ministers” like Billy Graham/Oral Roberts/Robert Schuller/Kenneth Copeland/Paul Crouch/Benny Hinn/Jesse Jackson/Jerry Falwell/”Lion’s Paw” Pat Robertson/John Hagee… and many others being even 33rd Degree Masons which is by Invitation ONLY…

    And maybe a LOT of Americans ought to sit down and ask how these Religious Right Charismatics got the 33rd Degree Invite while a LOT of High Masons at the 32nd Degree in big Politics never got the 33rd Degree Invite yet are in high up Politics and Wealth in America like say Wyoming Senator Mike Enzi who’e even multi-generational Mason for example… wonder why??? Ecumenical One World Religion for one thing.

    Speaking of those Religious Right types like Palin=Eastern Star… go here:

    http://therr9.podbean.com/2010/08/28/sarah-palins-2008-freemasonic-prophecy-about-obama-exposed/

    Later. You all did the Ethical and Moral thing to confront this Evil false Prophet. Wish You all could nail piggie Zionist filth-boyyy who never fasted in his plump-dumpling life, John Hagee.

    RR

  7. #7 by RickB on August 31, 2010 - 5:34 pm

    Yep. This dog [pastor terry jones] has been pointed out for the imbecile and coward that he is.

  8. #8 by RH on August 31, 2010 - 5:37 pm

    Mark,
    Is that your dog under the bed? He’s not as smart as my dog. Can he/does he snort and chortle when you ask about the hollow cost? My, my I hope so. He outta be that brave if he lives with you.

    note from me, MG–sadly, no, my dogs aggravate me to death. They are always whimpering over the Hollercost and humming the Israeli national anthem and their favorite movie is Schindler’s List..

  9. #9 by Yvonne Ridley on August 31, 2010 - 5:42 pm

    The man is deluded and barking mad and he has infuriated the large majority of right-minded Christians in America who are appalled by his level of nonsense.
    Sadly, outside of America, there are many who are under the false impression that his view is the popular view of most Americans which is obviously untrue. he is turning Americans overseas into targets of hate because of his unbridled stupidity.
    However, we must remember that rabble rousers like this pastor were responsible for goading white Americans into rounding up black people, hog tying them and dragging them around car parks by bumper bars before hanging them … there are those in America who can still remember the shocking scenes brought about by hysteria, mob rule and ignorance fuelled by hate speeches made by people like the pastor.
    He’s an odious little man of no consequence desperately looking for some sort of footnote in history. He will barely earn an exclamation mark as an intellectual pygmy and a purveyor of hate.
    Yvonne Ridley
    London

  10. #10 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on August 31, 2010 - 6:10 pm

    He will barely earn an exclamation mark as an intellectual pygmy and a purveyor of hate.
    Yvonne Ridley
    London

    Dear Yvonne

    Assalamu ‘alaykum!

    I tend to always look beyond the little pygmy for the BIG PYGMY who is running the show. Let us not kid ourselves. Mainstream America (the vocal one) is with the pygmy, a pedophile some say!

    Mainstream America is not for the American Constitution, not for the Bill of Rights, not against War and genocide abroad, not against tyranny at home, not against all the evils of our society, political assassinations, Israeli USS Liberty and 9/11 crimes, Jewish fraud, crime and swindling operations, not for Justice, because THEY GO ALONG WITH THE BOLSHEVIK STATE!

    There is no mainstream America anymore; it is brain dead!

    Terry Jones must have been paid (or blackmailed) to do such an outrageous thing and the Police is complicit in this matter, unless somebody convinces me that this does not constitute an incitation to religious hatred, to violence, and a definite cause for an eventual breach of the peace (with the possibility of manslaughter) which is 100% against the Law of the land! Why therefore has the pygmy not yet been arrested and prosecuted for such offences? The answer is obvious. This is the Jewish Plan!

    BAFS

  11. #11 by Sam on August 31, 2010 - 6:24 pm

    It looks like the so-called ‘Rev’ had a visit from the real crime syndicate and was made aware that:
    1. The burning of the Holy Koran accords with their agenda and
    2. Burning their Talmud is not consequence free, i.e. has inherent dangers that will include a premature meeting with his creator through a tortuous route.

    It is now almost a certainty that the idiot will be killed by the ‘syndicate’ after doing his dirty deed because it presents an ideal opportunity for them to blame the Muslims for his murder!

    MG – Could someone make the idiot aware of what he got himself into.

    Thugs of his ilk are anything but Christian.

  12. #12 by Amerikagulag on August 31, 2010 - 7:24 pm

    Nice pertinent quote in honor of the bigot-a-thon in DC

    “Madness in individuals is rare, but in groups, crowds and nations, it is the rule.” – Friedrich Nietzsche

  13. #13 by Joe Cortina on August 31, 2010 - 7:54 pm

    When this pathetic redneck moron was a youngster he was probably the one who asked me if our priests (I was raised Catholic) had cloven hoves and did we really worship idols. I told him sure – “wanna see my familie’s golden calf? – or the hoof scuff marks on our wood floors from the parish priest’s last visit to our home”

    The man is a fundalmentalist – fundamentally stupid. I’ve known petty little men like him my entire life. I have known farmers with better intellects. One of the things that as an American I find REALLY embarassing when I travel and am asked questions by intelligent foreigners who have spent little or no time in the US but have seen hypocrite scum like The Bakers or the laundry list of other fools and clowns who mock Christianity to get rich from even bigger fools. There is no defense. It is simply too embarrassing. I just change the subject.

    I don’t know how you could tolerate his evil and ignotrance and hypocrisy for an entire show without barfing. Just the idea of that cretin being IN MY PRESENCE makes me gag! Pay him and his demonic ass kissers no mind. They will all self destruct like over filled pus sacks.

    JC

  14. #14 by Doug on August 31, 2010 - 8:03 pm

    I just emailed him. He won’t like what I said to him because it is the truth. We had better start confronting these WOLVES in sheeps clothing.

  15. #15 by Perry L on August 31, 2010 - 8:18 pm

    Katman,

    It’s even worse then that because “they” have also set up a “Shiaa” straw man we refer to as the “Islamic” Republic of Iran. Both of these entities (Saudi Arabia and Iran) seek to “modernize” and “integrate” Islam and Muslims into the current satanic world system. They are also used to give Islam a bad name (suppressing women, stoneings, public executions etc.). The Jews actually believe that when they knock these straw men down they will destroy Islam demonstrating their total lack of understanding of Islam and God. “Let them scheme their schemes for God is the best of all schemers and the wicked shall never prosper”

  16. #16 by Greg Bacon on August 31, 2010 - 9:22 pm

    Dangit, don’t you know that in 21st Century America, during a debate, the one who shouts the loudest and brings up the most ‘talking points’ wins?

  17. #17 by Bill White, Dayton, Ohio on August 31, 2010 - 9:24 pm

    Terry Jones is another Shabbos Goy

  18. #18 by Milton on August 31, 2010 - 9:54 pm

    IF, Israel wanted peace, it would FLOOD Concentration Camp GAZA with food and healthy economic activity. Did America launch massive assaults and shoot Black American Women and Children dead in the streets or use Jet Fighters and launch Artillery and Missiles into CIVILIAN areas? NO! Israel does so because Israel wants Ethnic Cleansing, NOT peace. Where is Israel’s Recognition of the PALESTINIAN’S RIGHT to EXIST!? Israel demands the Palestinians “repudiate” this and that …Does Israel REPUDIATE the TORAH???? Israel was White RACIST, APARTHEID, South Africa’s ONLY ally, trading weapons, torture techniques, NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY, with them. Today Israel continues Racist APARTHEID with it’s wall. Israel enforces laws that are straight out of Nazi Germany such as Palestinians must have different colored ID cards and license plates, JUST like the yellow stars the Jews WAIL about having to wear. Palestinians have to use separate roads, IDENTICAL to Black OR Whites Only drinking faucets.
    Israel and South Africa were virtually twinned as military allies for Pretoria helped supply Israel militarily in the immediacy of its 1973 setback and Israel came to support apartheid South Africa at the height of sanctions with weaponry and technology – from naval ships and the conversion of supersonic fighter planes to assistance in building six nuclear bombs and the creation of a thriving arms industry. Israel resembles apartheid South Africa at its zenith – even surpassing its brutality, house demolitions, removal of communities, targeted assassinations, massacres, imprisonment and torture of its opponents and the aggression against neighbouring states.
    Israel just PRETENDS to care about African Americans (but look how Israel treats Blacks at home), so they can STEAL the taxdollars that SHOULD have been repairing schools and infrastructure and providing police protection in the Cities. Year after year BILLIONS of African American Tax dollars buy more APARTHEID-suppression for the NATIVE PEOPLE of PALESTINE instead of improving life for the Black American People who earned those dollars.
    Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:15 CDT © Jewish Middlesex
    Ethiopian Jewish student – not allowed to study at new school
    Several months ago, a religious school in the illegal Israeli settlement of Immanuel was criticized for segregating white Jewish students from non-white Jewish students in classes. Originally, the school was fined for this policy of racial segregation, because the school was state funded. Now, the Israeli education ministry has agreed with the white parents’ request to allow the school to continue with its racial discrimination under private funding.
    There is no law preventing racial discrimination by priyvate organizations, even schools, in Israel.
    The Israeli court has interpreted these laws to also apply to illegal West bank settlements, like Immanuel, which are located in areas that are supposed to be under Palestinian control. The Palestinian Authority does not allow racial discrimination, but due to the Israeli military occupation of the Palestinian Territories, it has no authority over the area in question. 74 white girls who have been studying in a building next to the school will now be allowed to study in whites-only classrooms that are privately funded, as their parents claim they do not want their girls to stud in racially-mixed classrooms.

  19. #19 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on August 31, 2010 - 10:35 pm

    Perry L
    August 31, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    “It’s even worse than that because “they” have also set up a “Shiaa” straw man we refer to as the “Islamic” Republic of Iran. Both of these entities (Saudi Arabia and Iran) seek to “modernize” and “integrate” Islam and Muslims into the current satanic world system. They are also used to give Islam a bad name (suppressing women, stoneings, public executions etc.).”

    This is bad mouthing other people’s religion and bad politics. I do not want to get distracted by this “Shiaa” hatred or Saudi politics when the question before us is about one Terry Thomas who is posing as a Christian and giving both Christ and Christianity dangerously a very bad name!

    “Pastor Terry Jones–All Bark and No Bite When It Comes To Speaking The Truth About Islam and Judaism…”

    I understood Mark was speaking about the burning of the Qur’aan and Terry’s lack of courage to burn the Talmud as well.

    Our (my) Sister Ridley was saying Terry was deluded and barking mad. These are facts. My point was that the “large majority of right-minded Christians in America” go along too with this dangerous nonsense. If some are rightly infuriated, most are not otherwise the Zionist would be behind bars right now for incitement.

    I am not that outside of America, and it is not a false impression that Terry’s view is the popular view of most Americans for the reason I gave above. The reason why the people of America did not in the first place stop the Jews from scrapping their Constitution and Bill of Rights or from taking the Bible out of public schools or from persecuting Christians or from tasering innocent civilians is because they have been so zombified that it would take a real MIRACLE to wake them up and to see them react to any injustice done to American citizens on American soil.

    Terry Jones is not turning Americans overseas into targets of hate because of his unbridled stupidity. Americans are already targets for what they did and are doing to millions of Muslims whether it is in Bosnia, Lebanon, Palestine, Chechnya (through their Soviet attack dog), Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq (through their Jewish and Israeli attack dogs), Yemen, and now Iran.

    Mob rule in America was a government policy. There is not much difference today with its death squads, SWAT, tasering idiots, BATF, foreign ski-mask mercenaries, Jewish FEMA, etc., operating on American soil. The hate speeches made by people like Terry and the media are government policy too. But, I am more concerned about the Godfather himself who is the State.

    Terry is of course an odious little man, but he is definitely not doing this for himself, his family or even for Christianity. He is working for the JEWS and is putting himself at risk and his entire family for reasons still to be explored.

    Salman Rushdie was paid in advance to write his blasphemous and filthy piece called The Satanic Verses, and he was knighted for his services by Hebrew Nazi Freemason Elisabeth II for using the F work in his book 52 times, slandering white women and “niggers”, and calling Margaret Thatcher “Maggie the bitch”!!

    The Jewish Danish cartoons were ordered in advance by Jews for the same purpose of provoking Muslims. Many lost their lives because of that. GOD knows what would be the consequence of burning the Qur’aan in a Church if this is allowed to go ahead by the authorities.

    But, most Muslims have very short memory because they have already forgotten about Rushdie and the Cartoons! The State is the greatest purveyor of hate as well as of violence.

    By having Terry Jones on the show, Mark has done a great thing by keeping his calm. He gave the dog enough rope to hang himself!

    BAFS

  20. #20 by Paul R. on August 31, 2010 - 10:42 pm

    Mark, This pastor gives “Come now, let us reason together, says the Lord” (Isa.1:18), a whole new meaning and the apostle Paul, “reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and the God-fearing Greeks, as well as in the marketplace day by day with those who happened to be there”(Acts 17:17). I guess Jones must have missed that study of the Bible when he got his seminary papers.

  21. #21 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on August 31, 2010 - 10:50 pm

    David Rosser Owen
    August 31, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    It is reckoned by many that Shi’ism was started by a Jewish converso, Abdullah bin Saba, around the 9th Century AD.

    Whether the Al Saud are descended from the Jews of Khaybar,…

    Yes, Jews (Abdullah bib Saba) were responsible for exploiting the split among Muslims just like Jews (SAUL) did for Christianity at the start. Both Saba and Saul claimed to ahve embraced the “new” religion. But, why elaborate on this here when we are dealing with other issues? The issue is not doctrinal, but political. Jews are using a pastor using Christianity as an excuse for his satanic deed. He is also accused of being a homosexual or a paedophile. Maybe this is why they can blakmail Terry Jones. Who knows?

    You see “David”, I can see in your game quite clearly, your hatred for “Wahhabis or Wahhabi-derived organisations like the Muslim Brotherhood/Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan”, and your promoting of “grass-roots bodies which are nearly all Sufi based” which by the way is a BIG LIE!

    David Owen, my foot!

    BAFS

  22. #22 by Concrete man on August 31, 2010 - 10:54 pm

    That dog has ticks and fleas, possibly a brain allergy.

    Jones is typical, if not worse than most Americans who adhere to a wonderful belief system called “DONT BOTHER ME WITH THE FACTS”. Thank you very much.

  23. #23 by The Prodigal Son on August 31, 2010 - 11:00 pm

    Katman wrote:

    “So let me get this straight. jews started this wahhabism sect for whatever reasons. and jews masquerading as arabs control saudi arabia and other “arabic” countries…. so there jews are. stealing arab monies and living high on hog (oops)… so to speak, at the expense of the indigenous arabs (children of Edom), of that land and above all else, jews are controlling the holy places of Islam. don’t you just love it when a plan comes together?”

    What gives you the notion that Arabs are the children of Edom?

    The nation of Edom (Idumea) was conquered and absorbed by Israelite Judea in approx 126 B.C.

    From that point, the Edomites were simply referred to as Judeans (‘Jews’)… Eventually the Edomites rose to power in Palestine. In the New Testament, the kings Herod were Edomites.

    Please see: Palestine In Christ’s Time… ‘Jews’ = Judahites, ‘Jews’ = Judeans, ‘Jews’ = Edomites?

    †IC XC†
    †NI KA†

  24. #24 by rh on August 31, 2010 - 11:58 pm

    Just wondering about the statements in northerntruthseeker’s first message about the missing nukes from SA and one of them going to No. Korea. I had read elsewhere in the last month that the missing nukes from Minot No.Dakota, part of which ended up in Louisiana, a few years ago were sidetracked by Mossad and one went to No. Korea. Hmmm, parallel scripts: which is true? …or, are both true? And why does the theme center on them stealing a nuke when we read that they have 200 to 400 of their own?

  25. #25 by Craig on September 1, 2010 - 2:37 am

    “all bark no bite”
    How much bark can a man named Terry have

  26. #26 by Perry L on September 1, 2010 - 2:39 am

    B.A.Frémaux-Soormally

    Whose religion did I “bad mouth” or did I miss something here? My point was that the current GOVERNMENT in Iran is another Jewish straw man “representing” the other major bloc in Islam the Shiaa and the Jews actually think by killing both governments (in the coming big war) they can destroy Islam.

    News Flash for them there are possibly twice as many “Muslims” in the world today then there were on 9-10-2001, I myself was an atheist on that day and am now a most devout servant of God hoping to be counted amongst the Muslims on the Last Day.

    The quote about “God scheming” is from the Qur’an which I read everyday.

  27. #27 by Craig on September 1, 2010 - 2:40 am

    to the author of this website

    1)whats your name

    2)where are you from

    3)how old are u

    4)Do u profess to be a Christian?

    –note from me. MG–

    -My name is Mark
    -I am an American
    -I am over 40
    -I am a Christian

  28. #28 by Perry L on September 1, 2010 - 2:56 am

    B.A.Frémaux-Soormally

    As far as “Pastor” Jones is concerned he is not worth my time to comment on and I leave the judgment of his actions to God. His ignorance more then speaks for itself.

  29. #29 by katman on September 1, 2010 - 3:17 am

    Islamophobe Pastor Terry Jones arrested for child pornography

    http://www.miadhu.com/2010/08/local-news/islamophobe-pastor-terry-jones-arrested-for-child-pornography/

    i think we should not worry too much about this little small church in florida doing and saying such silly things as burning books ,etc……….it means nothing…..i have never been to or seen or ever heard of any church ever even considering such a thing as this….never….i don’t know why he decided this was a good idea, but i am here to tell him it is not. this is not the way to win friends and influence people. what did Jesus say?

    Matthew 10:16

    16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

    –Katman, this story is not true. My theory is that it was deliberately placed by one of Jones’ supporters–Jewish or Gentile–in order to make his opponents looks bad when they jumped on it when there was no basis for it.

  30. #30 by Craig on September 1, 2010 - 3:28 am

    thanks for responding

    your site is thought provoking

    one differnce I have

    your views on Christianity/Islam/judaism seems to be (assuming they ar rated on a scale of 0 to 10)

    Christianity – perfect 10
    Islam – comes in at a respectable 9
    judaism – an absolutely satanic 0

    I think its more like

    Christianty – perfect 10
    Islam – untrustworthy but tolerable 4*
    judaism – totally diabolical in every way 0

    *they may say some nice things about Jesus Christ and Mary, but just like the jews they are going to go to hell unless they convert, perhaps they will suffer a lesser degree of punishment in hell, than jews, but they are still going to hell, so dont get too lovey dovey with them unless they convert

    I have a slightly different view but I like your site

    –note from me, MG–Thank you for the kind words, which are always appreciated.
    as far as the rest, neither you, me, nor anyone else has the power to decide who is going to hell or not. That is for God and God alone to decide.
    In terms of my feelings for Islam, I think have made my purpose clear–I am not ‘promoting’ or criticizing Islam. What I am doing is to tell Christians that they are being lied to about Islam in order to not only wipe out the Muslims, but also to wipe out the Christians. As soon as Christians realize that it is not the muslims they should be fighting but rather the Jews, the sooner we will get the vampire’s fangs off our neck. Afterwards, we can get into all kinds of hairy debates over who has the right vision or not but FOR NOW let’s put this fire out before it burns down the whole world–WITH US AND OUR LOVED ONES IN IT.

  31. #31 by Southwest Gal on September 1, 2010 - 3:53 am

    Pastor Terry Jones has made a complete fool out of himself, and all thanks to two specific people: #1 himself, #2 the author of this blog. For as long as I live, I will tell anybody who asks that nobody knows how to start a wildfire better than Mark Glenn.

    –note from me, MG–actually, I am seconded by someone else, 24 years younger than me but much smarter and wittier and whose intellect makes mine look like oatmeal and who is I believe destined for greatness.

  32. #32 by Craig on September 1, 2010 - 3:54 am

    As soon as Christians realize that it is not the muslims they should be fighting but rather the Jews, the sooner we will get the vampire’s fangs off our neck. Afterwards, we can get into all kinds of hairy debates over who has the right vision or not but FOR NOW let’s put this fire out before it burns down the whole world–WITH US AND OUR LOVED ONES IN IT.

    I like that

    I can sense Jews shaking with fear at this kind of INtra- CHristian agreement,

    it will be interesting to see what kind of bull shit they come with to divide the everywhere-awakening-to-all-the-jew-games true Christians

    True CHristians today are very difficult to divide,

    and the fakes aiding and abetting the jews fake divisions are are so so easy to spot

  33. #33 by Sam on September 1, 2010 - 3:57 am

    Katman

    The untrue story of child pornography appeared after the program in which Terry Jones said he was going to burn the Talmud as well. I think it was just a token of what “they” will do to him if he doesn’t recant and beg for forgiveness!

    I still think when Jones crosses the Rubicon on the Koran burning, “they” will still do something nasty to him and then blame it on the Muslims.

  34. #34 by S. H. Pearson on September 1, 2010 - 7:12 am

    Deft writing. Firm grip on your subject. Sounds like another air-head preacher parroting the bullshite that Jews have been bribing them to bellow for yrs. I notice how no preacher dares to criticize a Jew. Why is that when our Lord whipped them out of the temple? And they have been expelled from 49 countries since 740 Anno Domini. Germany was just the most recent one. My Bible Belt has been purchased by the “money-changers.” I’m at the point where I want to stand on the high ground and yell, “Find me one good man! Just one good man who hasn’t sold his soul. One good man to preach the Gospel who has not been castrated, gagged and bought by the Cult of Moloch.”

  35. #35 by Ali A. jafari on September 1, 2010 - 7:22 am

    Dear Mr. Glenn,

    I love the way you trashed this Terry Jones fellow. It became very clear that he had no ammunation to fight on.
    I call this victory of logic over irrationality of a man with a sick heart.
    Ali A. Jafari,
    The Islamic Republic of Iran

  36. #36 by Jangir Sultan on September 1, 2010 - 7:24 am

    Good and Evil are decided by the effect our presence has had on other God’s creatures. If our actions have benefitted the World around us – then we are good. If our actions have harmed others then we are evil. In this context if we look at who is responsible directly or indirectly in the decimation of tens of millions of people around the world including the Depleted Uranium and phosphur and cluster bombs that will impact in future generations and the effects of Big Pharmaceuticals and GM foods; we can see the evil and these are NOT the actions of the Muslims.

    The Saudi Government has spent 87 BILLION GBP on training Imams and printing books to spread a corrupted version of Islam all over the world. These are the teachings that incite Muslims to violence. They openly call for Jihad and invite Muslims to declare war on America. They hold rallies and try to enflame the Muslims to go forth and kill. They point out the killings of innocent muslims all over the world as in Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Can we blame the people who look at the results of the decimation of the World Muslim population and decide to join in? They are not allowed to say Amercia is a Satan?

    I saw a BBC video of a jewish man in Israel who was lamenting the loss of his 14 year old daughter. “Beautifull,…like an angel and would not harm a fly” is how he described his dead daughter. He said that the ‘suicide’ bomber had been at a check point with his mother, earlier in the day. She was being groped by the guards and they were making suggestive sexual remarks about her. He could not tolerate this and went and blew himself and 3 other people later in the day. This resulted in the death of his daughter. He said that his daughter and the man who blew himself up were the victims of policies beyond their control. They were both victims.

    The Pastor and his clan and the people they are defending are all victims. The Christians have allowed this evil to creep within their midst. The Muslims have allowed evil people into their midst. The Jews have also allowed people into their midst.
    Therefore all Christians are pedophiles, all Muslims are terrorists and all Jews are responsible for the World mayhem.

    Each of these religions have inadvertantly, foolishly or may even deliberatly allowed their religion to be brought into disrepute. The religions now need to look inside themselves and either corect these evil-mongers or discard them like the leeches on they are.
    There was only ONE purpose to all the religions – to return to God. God loves his creation – MAN! Regardless of race, creed or religion – he created man and he loves him. that is why he sent all those prophets. How can we kill the very thing that God loves MOST? What a sorry lot we are! when we spend our time finding the faults in others and when we have not CLEANSED our selves.

  37. #37 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 1, 2010 - 8:09 am

    CRAIG: Christianty – perfect 10

    That’s well and good, even excellent. I love seeing Christians finding Christianity 100% perfect, but my question is WHICH CHRISTIANITY? The mainstream Catholic one? The Protestant one with its 250 denominations? The Zionist ones (including “Jehovah Witnesses”)?

    But, by saying you find Islam “untrustworthy”, did you base your judgement on the Jewish 911 Omission Report or the Jewish LBJ Warren Report?

    What would have been left of Christianity if there were no Muslims and Protestants to uphold its values? Craig is ignorant of the fact that Islam is Christian heresy just like Protestantism is Catholic heresy! Heretics were all burnt at the stake. Would Craig favour the burning of the Muslim heretics as well?

    I AM BOTH A CHRISTIAN AND MUSLIM HERETIC!

    But, the question is not about Christianity or Islam, but about CHRISTIANS and MUSLIMS and their actions! In that your 100% perfect Christianity comes up at the top of the list in the evil actions its followers have committed in recent and past history (racism, slavery, colonialism, imperialism, humanism, socialism, democracy, NWO…) compared with the “untrustworthy” Islam!

    BAFS

  38. #38 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 1, 2010 - 1:12 pm

    Craig
    September 1, 2010 at 3:54 am

    “As soon as Christians realize that it is not the muslims they should be fighting but rather the Jews…”

    Christians already know that what happened to America has nothing to do with Muslims right since Jewish WWI & WWII, the creation of the private Jewish Reserve Bank, and throughout all the fifty wars or so the US got involved in (Korea, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen…), the political assassinations, the death squads under Negroponte, the volcanic explosion (carried out from their WMD from space, thermobaric bombs, or whatever other military weapons) of Buildings 1, 2 and 7 of the Jewish/Israeli World Trade Centre.

    Christians are not innocent of all the crimes perpetrated by America around the world and at home. ALL OF US who are against wars, global plunder, home dictatorship and fascism, and in favour of all the values we inherited from our ancestors and political and civil rights granted to us by tbe Constitution and Bill of Rights should rise up.

    Christians already as a group should make a huge difference if THEY WERE NOT COMPLICIT IN CRIME with the Jewish run/controlled US government!

    NOW, do not tell me that CHRISTIANS are still not convinced who really carried out 9/11? If they are so dumb and do not believe their own eyes, ears and high IQs regarding the attacks on 11 September 2001 (or of the USS Liberty, Waco, Oklahoma,JFK and RFK assassinations…), how can they ever believe in any Jesus at all with all his miracles, crucifixion, resurrection, return, etc.?

    Christians will not realize UNLESS we all help them, or FORCE them to realize that MUSLIMS ARE MORE TRUSTWORTHY THAN THOSE JEWISH AND ZIONIST DEVILS!

    What does it really matter if Islam is not really “trustworthy” if Muslims obey the Shari’a of the Land (US Constitution and Bill of Rights) and reject all tyranny?

    BAFS

  39. #39 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 1, 2010 - 4:48 pm

    Jangir Sultan
    September 1, 2010 at 7:24 am

    “The Saudi Government has spent 87 BILLION GBP on training Imams and printing books to spread a corrupted version of Islam all over the world. These are the teachings that incite Muslims to violence. They openly call for Jihad and invite Muslims to declare war on America. They hold rallies and try to enflame the Muslims to go forth and kill.”

    Dear Mr Jangir Sultan

    You must be a blooiming fool to believe that Saudi indoctrination incites Muslims to violence, to call for Jihad and invite Muslims to declare war on America!!!!!!!

    Muslims declaring war on America? With what army and what weapons? The Hydrogen or Thermobaric bomb that pulverised the World Trade Centre?

    You do not seem to know anything about Islam or world politics!

    GOD, in the Holy QUr’aan CALLS ALL BELIEVERS TO JIHAAD! WHy blame the Saudis for it? Do you “by chance” belong to one of those Sects (with no homeland) who have abolished JIHAAD in Islam and have their headquarters in Apartheid Israel and UK-Israel?

    I am not that easy to be fooled!

    BAFS

  40. #40 by Vickie Jacobs on September 1, 2010 - 7:50 pm

    Jesus said: “My yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” (Matthew 11:30) but now days we have foolish and idol shepherds that have left the true flock (Zechariah 11:15,17) and given us a “burdensome stone” (Zechariah 12:3) for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. A counterfeit “stone.” Christians United For Israel (CUFI) has given us this burden stone for Israel. This is not our burden for physical Israel. This “stone” is not the true Jesus. This stone will break in pieces (Jeremiah 23:29,30)”Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets(pastors of our day), saith the Lord, that steal my words every one from his neighbour.”
    Esau (same as Edom Genesis 36:8) despised his birthright(Genesis 25:34). God hated Esau(Malachi 1:3 and Romans 9:13) Esau was left with a blessing from his father (Genesis 27:38,39)That thy dwelling shall be the fatness of the earth and the dew of heaven from above. Here, you see the rich men of the earth. Prosperity, money makers, the illuminanti. God didn’t give the riches to his own. The rich men of the earth have it. The prosperity religious tv stars.
    You have to realize that their are two timelines in scripture. Their are layers. Their are two Esaus: Physical and spiritual. Two Isralites: physical and spiritual. Old Israel new Israel today. When the bible talks about Israel we have to determine, is it physical or spiritual? Romans 9:6; “For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel.” Romans 2:28,29; “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.”
    Revelation 2:9; “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty,(but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan” These Jews (physical today) have denied Christ for 2000 years and the bible calls them Anti-christs I John 2:18,22. The promise to Israel became a spiritual(from physical to spiritual) when Christ died on the cross. Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. You have to be born again.
    So, who is Esau? Those who are trying to get back a physical(Israel) blessing(those idol shepherds). It is an obamanation to the Lord for Christ died to get us into heaven spiritually. We are living stones the bible says and we are the true temple of the living God.
    I do not go to church but I hope someone was helped in what I know.

  41. #41 by Jangir Sultan on September 1, 2010 - 7:52 pm

    Dear BAFS
    If you spend a little time researching just a few of the organisations such as the Hizbut Tahrir(HT), Al mahjiroon, Sallafi or the numerous other “New” wahaabi sects in Islam you will trace all the funding back to Saudi Arabia. The root of the Wahaabi faith. enacted by the Saud family. The majority of Saudi Arabia (and the rest of the Muslim World) does not belong to this school of thought. They have taken over all islamic bookshops in the West. Just try finding an islamic book NOT sanctioned by the Saudi government! Even the quran translation has to be sanctioned by them! If you entered the country carrying a Quran NOT sanctioned by them – it will be confiscated and a replacement one given.

    Nearly all (western) Universities now have “Islamic Societies” ONLY run at the request of the Saudi Government in all western countries under their protection. These same societies are the ones calling for Jihad against the west. They serve two purposes: the west can be seen to be cooperating with muslims and secondly, they know where the people are, who get up and do something crazy, because they have told them to do it! all under the name of Jihad.

    With regards to God calling believers to Jihad does not always mean to “War”. It could be applied to war but the text refers to; dedicate every struggle in the name of God or in the cause of God. Even your daily routine of work – if it is dedicated to God; counts as worship. It is the “Struggle”.

    Maybe, my knowledge does not extend as far as yours with regards to Islam and World politics. But do understand that the Prophet predicted that his followers would split into 73 sects, and all but one would be on the right path and that sect would be the majority sect. If you look at the World Muslim population there is only one clear majority sect made up of over 85% of the Muslims; the Sunnis.

    However, the Wahaabis of this World are smaller in number than most small sects. But due to colonial British policy the wahaabis were given Arabia which they named “Saudi” because they owned it. They have since been aided by the west even while they are being riled by every other Muslim sect and even the west for the diabolical treatment meted out to their inhabitants and their export of “Al-Qaida” and other terror supporting groups across the globe.

    If any of my comments have offended anyone – I apologise unreservedly! my intention is not to offend anyone, but to state the truth.

  42. #42 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 1, 2010 - 8:53 pm

    Jangir Sultan
    September 1, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    “Do you “by chance” belong to one of those Sects (with no homeland) who have abolished JIHAAD in Islam and have their headquarters in Apartheid Israel and UK-Israel?”

    ARE YOU PRETENDING YOU FORGOT OR YOU CANNOT READ OR YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION? OR DO YOU WANT ME TO REPLY IN YOUR PLACE?

    I think you have landed on the wrong website with your religious garbage!

    The issue was about burning the Qur’raan, Holy Book of the Muslims.

    Right here on this post, one CRAIG asked Mark Glenn a few questions about himself, HE DID NOT RUN AWAY LIKE A COWARD!

    BAFS

  43. #43 by David Rosser Owen on September 1, 2010 - 9:34 pm

    B.A.Frémaux-Soormally

    “You see “David”, I can see in your game quite clearly, your hatred for “Wahhabis or Wahhabi-derived organisations like the Muslim Brotherhood/Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan”, and your promoting of “grass-roots bodies which are nearly all Sufi based” which by the way is a BIG LIE!

    David Owen, my foot!”

    What on Earth are you talking about?

  44. #44 by Jangir Sultan on September 1, 2010 - 9:48 pm

    Sorry BAFS – to disappoint you – but I belong with the majority. The issue IS about burning the Quran until you asked the question and trying to make the issue about me.
    However, I did answer your question in detail – and the only coward is you, who did not reply and steered this as a personal attack on me and for some reason you forgot that I pointed out infiltrations of all the three religions discussed here! No one is immune.

    With regards to your view of ‘religious garbage’ – you are doing the same as the pastor; by criticising others of your own ignorance of what is going on in the World. Educate yourself and then come back to me.

  45. #45 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 1, 2010 - 10:35 pm

    Jangir Sultan
    September 1, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    “If you spend a little time researching just a few of the organisations such as the Hizbut Tahrir(HT), Al mahjiroon, Sallafi or the numerous other “New” wahaabi sects in Islam you will trace all the funding back to Saudi Arabia.”

    YOU ARE A BLOODY LIAR AND YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT OCCUPIED ARABIA!

    For Muslims, there is NO “SAUDI” ARABIA! This is a fabrication of the British/French/American illegal occupiers of ARABIA, and the Saudi ancestors were JEWS from Basra (Iraq) who settled in Arabia and murdered Muslims and Muslim scholars by the tons, and have been Western puppets since the Jewish destruction of the Ottoman Khilaafah by homosexual, alcoholic and fornicator Mustafa “Kemal” from Salonika (a Jewish Paradise where Nicolas Sarkozy’s ancestors come from)!

    The Arabs have NO MONEY, except what the Americans allow them. In English we call that allowances. The Saudis work for the West and oppress their own people. All the oil money are invested in Jewish Banks and are used BY AMERICANS AT WILL and not by Saudis (or Arabs) who are only the DEPOSITORY. Billions of Arab Dollars were paid by Saudis upon orders from the US during the Gulf War.

    I am not here to discuss matters pertaining strictly to the Ummah, but you have clearly shown TO ME (at least) that you are just another government stooge!

    But, the readers may like to know that Muslims from Hizb ut Tahrir are the targets of Jews and the British government BECAUSE THEY ARE GENUINE MUSLIMS!

    The “Salafis” are Muslims following the Saudi brand of Islam and the Saudis are the great friends of both America and Israel!

    And as far as the Al-Muhajiroon Muslims are concerned,the group was set up by MI5 and MI6! Their leader Omar Baqri (a Syrian refugee on benefits!!!!!!!???????) was working for the Jews, was on TV all the time, and had infiltrated all the Muslim organisations. He was a personal acquaintance of mine! My question to him when I first met him following an invitation was: ARE YOU JEWISH? He was also chairman of the Shari’a Council here.

    Now, do not tell me you are a “majority” MUSLIM!!!!!!!

    Ask the Algerians, the Moroccans and the Tunisians who are running their countries? Not Muslims, but Jews or Jewish money! Algerian Army General LARBI BEL KHEIR IS JEWISH, I am told!!!!!! He may even be dead now!

    N.B. This is my last reply to you!

    BAFS

  46. #46 by Craig on September 1, 2010 - 11:05 pm

    Bafs

    if u are a female, I am not really interested in what u have to say,

    on the other hand

    if u are a male

    where are u from?
    how old are u?
    are u a CHristian?

  47. #47 by Jangir Sultan on September 1, 2010 - 11:23 pm

    What is the matter BAFS?
    You challenge me not to run away and then say “N.B. This is my last reply to you!”

    Wake up and smell the garbage you are espousing!
    The Prophet said there will be only ONE sect and ALL the others will go to HEll.
    Do you believe that the majority of Muslims will go to hell? Did not God promise the Prophet to protect his Ummah?

    So how come a “NEW” sect like Hizb ut Tahrir you so much love – with a following of a few people are going to be from the “saved” sect and all the others will go to hell? What happened to Gods promise to his Prophet?
    Do not fool yourself or others in thinking that you are righteous. Remember the saying of the Prophet when he said that the last day will not come until two of the largest sects will fight one another and claim to belong to the same sect.

    If I recall correctly; the Hizb ut Tahrir were proud of their wahaabi doctrines until this was pointed out to them and they ran with their tails between their legs. Then they changed their tune and claimed to be Sunni muslims like the others.

    You are aware of the strife the Hizb ut Tahrir caused in the UK when they tried to have a demonstration against the war in Iraq in front of the bodies of dead returning soldiers. They were banned by the UK Government and all they did was to change their name and continue the same activities. Why do you think the UK Government did not throw any of them in prison?
    They knew where they were – they only changed the name of the organisation and carried on their activities!

    If you are in the UK and have a UK passport – you have to swear allegiance to the sovereign. God will ask them about this. He will ask these people that you took an oath and you broke it.
    How come these Hizb ut Tahrir soldiers of truth swore allegiance and then attacked the same?
    Did not God say in the Quran that, if a sovereign is cruel to you – it is better for you to eat the root and bark of a tree and die of starvation, than to take up alms against him?
    Is this the type of Islam that will get these people to paradise? or make them from the TRUE sect?

    The Muslim Ummah is one of shahadah (witness) what will you take to God? will you take witness that people who were known as Muslims you branded them as non-Muslims (millions of them) and yet if you helped someONE to convert to Islam then you will want a reward from him?

    I do not think the Prophet would be too pleased with the person who does this! The Prophet spent every opportunity begging God for the forgiveness of his Ummah. If you want his pleasure I would suggest that you do actions that would please your maker and his Prophet.

    get off your high horse. If the fasting is raising your BP maybe you should seek a rest due to medical reasons and not take it out on people who are pointing out the truth.
    Before you call another person a “Liar” or “Ignorant” or “Coward” or from “Isarel” or a “Jew”
    Make sure it is not YOU who is guilty of the same accusations and YOU who have to run away from the table of discussion!

  48. #48 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 2, 2010 - 12:01 am

    Craig
    September 1, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    Bafs

    “if u are a female, I am not really interested in what u have to say,…”

    IF YOU ARE A MISOGYNIST, I AM NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY!

    By the way, I never said I was as nice as Mark Glenn! And, according to my French savoir-vivre, it is up to you to introduce yourself FIRST, not to me!

    Further, if you had read my countless pieces on this websibe, you would have known WHO I REALLY AM!

    EVANGELOS PARAKLETOS (My Greek names)

  49. #49 by Craig on September 2, 2010 - 4:17 am

    By the way, I never said I was as nice as Mark Glenn! And, according to my French savoir-vivre, it is up to you to introduce yourself FIRST, not to me!

    Hi Evangelos Parakletos

    pardon my rude-ness its unintentional

    I am new to this page, I checked out your website, you seem like a really cool guy, I look forward to being enriched by your point of view, one that I dont get much of, as I continue to hang out here

    as I am sure you know, sicne you seem like a very knowedldgable man

    as a CHristian it is my obligation to try to help get you to accept Jesus CHrist

    so again please forgive me if that duty of mine comes across as rude

  50. #50 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 2, 2010 - 3:02 pm

    CRAIG: “…it is my obligation to try to help get you to accept Jesus CHrist…”

    This is a quite noble task, but how do you think people can trust you after what you said about women?

  51. #51 by David Rosser Owen on September 2, 2010 - 4:56 pm

    Craig,

    BAFS is a Muslim man which is all you really need to know. I reserve comment on his claim that he REALLY is Evangelos Parakletos (his Greek names)- a very problematic matter if taken at its face value. As a Muslim he is already a “Christian”, in that he believes in Lord Jesus Christ peace be upon him as Messiah and in his saintly virgin mother as a fundamental matter of his faith. So, he has most certainly “accepted Jesus Christ”. Have you? Do you follow what Jesus himself taught, rather than as filtered, emended, amended, and commented upon by St Paul and others?

  52. #52 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 2, 2010 - 5:56 pm

    To me this matter is too simple.

    When any citizen announces that he and his followers will perform an act that may result in a breach of the peace, in the injury or death of other citizens, by incitement to religious hatred and violence, they have already committed an arrestable offence.

    As the Police authorities have not arrested any one of them on the spot, as far as I know, allowing the offence to endure and upset tens of thousands of people and milions around the world, there is only one explanation to it. The authorities (upon orders from AIPAC and ADL who have sold the Iran war to the Americans already!) are backing them and even if they are prevented at the last minute to go ahead as they have planned, the damage would have been done already.

    As far as I am concerned, the entire American nation and their racist and fascist Jewish-controlled authorities can go ahead and burn all the “Korans” they can lay their hands upon, and even those belonging to the Muslims or on sale in bookshops or kept in libraries and schools, it will not make an iota of difference to me, AS A MUSLIM!

    The Russian, British, French and American armies have incinerated thousands of Qur’aans during their wars of invasions (the latest ones in the Balkans, Iraq, Chechnya and Afghanistan) just as they have destroyed or pulverised thousands of Buddha statues during their genocidal wars in Indo-China and in China.

    (RNS) The National Association of Evangelicals and the Jewish Simon Wiesenthal Center are just being hypocritical about this whole matter by condemning the Dove World Outreach Center’s announced plans on a Facebook page “in remembrance of the fallen victims of 9/11 and to stand against the evil of Islam” and on other platforms. (Gainesville, Florida).

    In France, if the same announcement was made by anybody about burning the Jewish Holy Books or the Talmud, the guilty parties would have been arrested, jailed and sent before the district magistrate on the charge of incitement. All the French Human Rights and anti-racist (Jewish-controlled) organisations would have raised hell including on all the television channels (Jewish controlled) and mainstream newspapers (Jewish controlled).

    I do not blame the foolish Devil Pastor Terry Jones, but I blame the authorities for allowing this to be publicly announced without taking any action at all, and the Muslims themselves for being so IMPOTENT and INCOMPETENT!

    BAFS
    Thursday 2nd of September 2010
    Countdown to Evangelical “Koran” burning in Florida – 000009

    TO CRAIG:
    If you love Jesus Christ, we are then ONE FAMILY (including women and children). So, write to that lunatic Pastor and call him back to Christ!

  53. #53 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 2, 2010 - 10:36 pm

    David Rosser Owen
    September 2, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    Craig,

    BAFS is a Muslim man who lives in Walthamstow, London, UK, which is all you really need to know.

    David, it was kind of you to come to Craig’s help. I have seen all kinds of people in my life, and so many shills, saboteurs, ignoramuses, idiots, you name it, on the Internet, but I am not here for them.

    I have been a fool at times. I am not here to show off, but only to help at least ONE person to see the truth as I see it. I am sorry to say that all I get usually is kids who have nothing else to do in life than to be a nuisance to others.

    One MI5-MI6 guy who was following me stole my £600 Fuji camera thinking I was of those spies spying on MOSSAD activities in Britain. He was greatly disappointed when he saw only pictures of my grand daughter in it, and no Jewish Synagogue, no Chabad Lubavich Terror Cell, or suicide bomber manuals.

    Well, those kids are not very intelligent. If they wanted to know about me, I gave them enough details, age, Zodiac sign, profession, religion, photographs of my four wives, my sexual “orientation”, photographs of my mother, adoptive father, and so on. They can even ring Scotland Yard and they will have all the informations they need about me. This is exactly what the mainstream media in B’rit’ain, France, Belgium and Switzerland did before considering publishing my essays. In ten years, they never published a single one of them! In my homeland Mauritius, none was accepted in the past ten years! There must be a very good reason to it.

    The miracle is that I never voted in my life, never belonged to any political or religious party, never committed any offence or crime, never evaded paying taxes that I did not owe, tried to a maximum to avoid swallowing the poisons they serve the masses on a daily basis, thus keeping my brain as healthy as possible, and my thoughts as independent as possible, which few people can do, not even Pr Noam Chomsky or Pr Richard Dawkins or that lizard Pr Alan Dershowitz.

    You may think I was talking to you, David. I wasn’t. I was talking to myself. It’s all a question of mood of the moment. At this very moment, I have only one worry, Obama’s nuclear war against Iran and the Inquisition against Muslims. As for Islam, I am not worried, GOD can protect what HE SAID HE HAD PERFECTED HIMSELF! ut, the Muslims, who is going to protect them from extermination? I was not relying on GOD, but on my Christian Brothers and Sisters to come to our help, and of all those who love Freedom, Justice and a moral way of life. The help is coming, but not fast enough, not sufficient enough to make a difference.

    I was hoping Muslims would come forward th help THEMSELVES, but they too are too few in numbers, and not too excited about getting rid of those tyrants! So, I go about doing my everyday chores, trying to take care of myself, and of my loved ones whenever I can. One baby is fast asleep besides me while I am writing to you. What am I writing? I do not even know what or why, but I keep on writing!

    You say your name is David Rosser Owen. Maybe it’s true or it’s false! Maybe you are a good person with a good heart, with good intentions. Who knows? Do you know even you yourself? Is there GOD? I do not really know, but have decided there is GOD. We had a bouncy castle garden party today with the kids and their mothers. One told me she was an Atheist! Christians are leaving the religion by millions! Muslims are leaving the religion. This never happened when I was young! But, this is life!

    GOD bless you and your loved ones.

    Regards

    Basheer

  54. #54 by Craig on September 3, 2010 - 12:12 am

    “… how do you think people can trust you after what you said about women?”

    you are right
    I should modify my statement about women
    I overstated it, I am going through a very anti-woman phase these days

    more accurately
    I have signifigantly less respect for the views and opinions of women AS COMPARED to the views and opinions of men, I find 95% of them to be child-like in their ability to think and to reason, and I feel that they are responsible for soo much damage on this planet because of their ENORMOUS weaknesses in so many areas, but every once in a rare while I see one that is worth listening too, but its extremely rare

    –note form me, MG–I would say that women in America have been deliberately dumbed down more so than the men, as they (women) are fed a daily intellectual diet from their youth of Oprah, Britney, Jennifer, etc, etc, etc. However, to say that women in general are not intelligent is on its face wrong. Of the 2, our creator chose women to raise children and it is from their mothers that children learn to speak and function before they go out into the world. Can you imagine what would come of the human race if men stayed home instead of women and it was from the men that children learned to speak, read, write, etc? It would be a disaster. The Jewish media has deliberately targetted women to dumb them down because where the woman goes, society goes, which explains why our children are getting less and less intelligent every year.

  55. #55 by Craig on September 3, 2010 - 12:20 am

    my initial impressions of some of the commenters here

    Bafs is A+ quality

    David is C- quality

    but thats just my opinion

  56. #56 by Craig on September 3, 2010 - 12:25 am

    to say that women in general are not intelligent I think is on its face wrong.

    yeah, there is this female commenter on Broter Nathaniel Kpaner;s site realzionist news

    she goes by the name of KathJulianne, ( I assume the commenter is female)

    she is SOOO intelligent, and a pleasure to read and learn from

    she is awesome ,

    if anyone checks out http://www.realzionistnews.com

    I recommend doing

    Ctrl F “kathjullianne”

    she wirte one masterpiece comment after another filled with abundant knowledge, she is very thought provoking

  57. #57 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 3, 2010 - 7:58 am

    Craig
    September 3, 2010 at 12:12 am

    “… how do you think people can trust you after what you said about women?”

    you are right
    I should modify my statement about women
    I overstated it, I am going through a very anti-woman phase these days…

    —————————————————————————

    Men are the most ‘stupid’ creatures of creation! WHY? They never learned and were/are never told that they have to be EDUCATED about WOMEN BEFORE they embark on the boat of life and “getting in bed” with any woman on this planet!

    Usually, men are the brainless brutes (but they think they are smart because they invented WMDs), but women are the real bosses, and they can make or destroy a man, ANY MAN! That is why so many men HATE THEM and prefer becoming homosexuals or staying single, a choice or an “orientation” they say! Watch William Holden in “Network” or Gene Hackman in “Suspicion”!

    But, in science, I have never come across of such a kind of human HOMOS SEXUAL ORIENTATION! But, this is another debate.

    BAFS

    P.S. No statements of mine are definitive. They all stand corrected if need be because I never claimed infallibility! I would be a fool!

  58. #58 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 3, 2010 - 2:05 pm

    MG: “The Jewish media has deliberately targetted women to dumb them down because where the woman goes, society goes, which explains why our children are getting less and less intelligent every year.”

    I read from Nadine, the wife of one Rothschild herself that FEMINISM destroyed womanhood. What Nadine de Rothschild (a former Catholic who converted to Judaism, an exception!) may not have known when she wrote her book is that the ROTHSCHILDS created feminism for that very purpose and Jews are behind all these destructive forces that have poisoned our lives.

    Mark is absolutely right. He must be aware as well that all our institutions are in the hands of those devils and they are making effeminates of our men (including with drugs), and supposedly machos of our women who more and more choose the lesbian way of life than being mothers ! No sane Christian nation can ever allow homosexuals to adopt OUR children (NOT THEIRS, for GOD sake!), or murder our babies (ABORTION), but only those Jewish perverts who run our governments! Giving our children in adoption to SODOMITES???????

    Women were meant to be mothers or to help with motherhood and work at home. They are the educators of our children at home and in the Kindergardens. Promiscuous schooling is responsible for the millions of single teenage pregnancies and abortions!

    Islam preaches that Paradise lies at the feet of the Mother! When asked about who Mankind (Believers) should love first after GOD and His Messenger(s), Muhammad, peace and blessings upon him, is recorded as having answered “YOUR MOTHER”. Asked three times, he gave the same answer. On the fourth time, he said “YOUR FATHER”! This is the exact translation of the Israelite Christian virtue “HONOUR THY PARENTS”!

    Even if the Arab Saying or Tradition seems to have been made up to convey a Message and the Spirit of Islam, the Message is quite clear!

    Christians and Muslims do not prostitute their mothers, wives, sisters and daughters (like Avram is said to have done with his sister-wife!)!

    BAFS

  59. #59 by Craig on September 3, 2010 - 3:40 pm

    Bafs u have a much higher opinion of women than I

    thats cool

    We can agree to disagree on that

    You still come across to me as extremely intelligent,

  60. #60 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 4, 2010 - 12:31 am

    Craig
    September 3, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    “Bafs u have a much higher opinion of women than I”

    Thank GOD, I love women! The chosen ones are all honey at first until one day we discover that many (not all) of them are the “Devil in disguise” (Elvis Presley)! Listen to the song “To make a Big Man Cry” by Tom Jones. It happened to me. Listen to “Delilah” by Tom Jones. It nearly happened to me. “A Man without Love” by Englebert Humperdink. GOD SAVED MY LIFE AND MY SANITY! Paul Anka and Celine Dion in “It’s hard to say goodbye”. I wished my wife had wanted what was best for me as I had always wanted what was best for her! “Falling into you” by Celine Dion. That is how they trick you into loving them! “Les Feuilles Mortes” by Yves Montand. What is left of life is the good old days!

    Love never goes away no matter what. Love is inside you. Either you have it or you don’t. Often, we tend to give it to people who do not deserve it, but I learned one thing. No matter what, GOD has His Plan! If there were no Judas, would there be a Jesus today?

    I see you are interested in Christianity. There are a few things that all true Christians should know about both established modern Roman Catholicism and Protestantism, and I am not lying.

    In 1884 (check the date) the Pope condemned the Satanic nature of Freemasonry. But, the anti-Pope Protestants joined the Freemasony Kabbalah freely because the European Monarchy was deep in the Occult and had Kabbalists working for them and performing Black Magic and Satanic rituals (human sacrifices) right in their Palaces.

    Check the Jack the Ripper Gang Freemasonic ritual murders and you will see how devilish the monarchy still is and worse of all the Vatican has been taken over by them at the behest of the Rothschilds who manage the Vatican finances.

    German Saxe-Coburg-Gotha Elizabeth II, one of the Antichrists and murderer of Princess Diana, is the most evil woman on earth, but who cares? Cultist of Death (Skul & Bones) George W. Bush is related to her by blood. Scotland Yard, MI5 and MI6 are all Judeo-Freemasonic criminal organisations working for the monarchy and the Elite.

    One of the rituals of the Judeo-Freemasons is to spit and trample on the cross and they deny the very existence of Jesus Christ. Do you know who presided the First “Bilderber” secret meeting? NAZI Prince Bernhardt of the Netherlands! The B’rit’ish Monarchy regards B’rit’ain as THE NEW ISRAEL, GREATER ISRAEL!

    So, just be careful!

    Basheer

  61. #61 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 4, 2010 - 1:00 am

    By the way, speaking of women and mothers, I forgot to add that GOD has blessed Mark Glenn with a good hearted, faithful and loyal wife, a great mother, and she should be congratulated for that. NINE KIDS? In Russia she would have received the MEDAL “MOTHER HEROINE”!

    GOD BLESS THEM ALL!

  62. #62 by Craig on September 4, 2010 - 2:24 pm

    9 kids wow

    cant relate to that

  63. #63 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 4, 2010 - 8:15 pm

    http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/blog/fester/talmud-burning-time-remember-victims-911
    Talmud Burning Time: Remember the Victims of 9/11

    “Dr. Terry Jones Will Burn the Talmud on September 11
    Posted on August 9, 2010 by mantiqaltayr

    1. Hello Islamophobes, ADL agents, Mossad agents and just plain assholes who think that Dr. Terry (Slave Labor for Jesus) Jones is as cool as Pam Geller (actually, he is better looking) because he wants to burn a book he has never read. No, I’m not talking about the Qur’an, not even the Bible, I’m talking about the Talmud. That’s right, Dr. Terry Jones of the Dove World Outrage Center agreed publicly this weekend to toss in a couple of copies of the Talmud into the fire when he, showing his Christian love, will also be burning copies of the Quran. Please join him, and I hope, Michael Collins Piper, on Sept. 11th for this occasion and be aware that this is a BYOT event. For Shas Party members – BYOT means “Bring you own Talmud” and please be ready to toss it into the fire.

    Below is an excerpt from Dr. Jones’ interview this weekend with Mark Glenn at the end of which Glenn asks Jones to toss in a couple of copies of the Talmud into the fire. Jones agrees to do so.”

    ********************

    MARK GLENN (addressing Pastor Terry Jones):

    “AND, LISTEN, WHEN YOU ARE BURNING THESE QUR’AANS ON SEPTEMBER THE 11TH, THROW A COUPLE OF, A COUPLE OF TALMUDS IN WITH IT! WOULD YOU, PLEASE?”

    The good pastor was trapped, and thus cornered he timidly said “OKAY”!

    But, I do not think it is exact to say that “Glenn asks Jones to toss in a couple of copies of the Talmud into the fire.” It was just an ironical statement made in a given circumstance!

    PLEASE, CORRECT ME IF I AM MISTAKEN.

    BAFS

  64. #64 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on September 5, 2010 - 9:42 am

    QUITE INTERESTING CRUSADE!

    http://fremaux-soormally.blogspot.com/2010/09/wtc-nuclear-blasts-site-mosque-ground.html

    BUT, WHY MUSLIMS AND SO-CALLED 9/11 TROOTHERS NOT MAKING AS MUCH NOISE AS THESE JEWISH CONTROLED MASSES?

  65. #65 by vivek b on September 9, 2010 - 10:06 am

    jangir sultan
    i do not under your propaganda against wahabbis. Do they incite people to report to terrorism? Really? What proof do you have? I mean quote something from their books. At the same time don’t tell me that they incite for jihad and thats why they are wrong. Jihad has basis in sharia. Of course the right jihad. I may not have much knowledge but with little that I have I can tell you that all those salafi, wahabbi books sponsored by saudi government never incited me to become a terrorist. In fact they always condemned terrorism. And they all derive the true meaning of jihad from Qur’an and sunnah. So the claims you are making against them has to be supported by evidence and at the same time proving them wrong from Qur’an and sunnah itself. Tell me what are the publications which are preaching terror in the name of jihad.

    Also about your saying ‘Majority will in to paradice’…..where did you really get this? So strange. Why don’t you quote the exact text hadith with exact reference along with classification. That would be better. What do you say?

  66. #66 by lemanpulut on September 12, 2010 - 9:55 pm

    Pastor Jones’ full but undocumented qualms about the Quran displayed here: http://annoyinglyanonymouslemanpulut.blogspot.com/.

    Thank You

  67. #67 by JANGIR SULTAN OF NYC on October 16, 2010 - 9:01 pm

    @ JANGIR SULTAN

    WHO KNEW “JANGIR SULTAN” WAS SUCH A COMMON NAME.

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