by Philip Giraldi, April 07, 2011
If there was any doubt about why the United States is involved in an increasingly messy military engagement in Libya, President Barack Obama cleared the air in his speech on March 29th. The US has no vital interest at stake but is involved in a humanitarian mission, to save innocent lives, akin to the Balkan enterprise of the 1990s. Other evidence provided by top administration officials suggests that the ultimate intention is to replace Muammar Gadhafi, in other words regime change, similar to the military action that removed Saddam Hussein from Iraq.
Obama could have made a plausible case for removing Gadhafi based on imminent threat. Gadhafi has been a major state supporter of terrorism, no doubt about it, and he did down both American and French commercial airliners in 1988 and 1989, resulting in major loss of life. He also ordered his agents to bomb a club frequented by American soldiers in Berlin in 1986, killing three, and resulting in a punitive attack by US military aircraft on Tripoli. Though the United States has come to terms with Libya and its regime it is indisputable that Gadhafi is a murderous thug and he is eminently capable of resorting to the terrorism card if he feels his interests demand it. Now that he has been condemned by the UN and attacked by NATO, he almost certainly will again exploit his considerable financial resources to fund terrorism. But President Barack Obama did not cite the danger posed by Gadhafi and instead chose to emphasize the humanitarian aspect of a US military intervention.
Recall for a moment that when Iraq occupied Kuwait in 1991 there were tales of Iraqi soldiers hurling infants out of incubators. Additional atrocities were described tearfully by a young woman who turned out to be the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Almost everything being reported about the bloodthirsty Iraqis turned out to be false, deliberately so, to make the case for war. In light of the deliberate deception that has been part and parcel of every American intervention anywhere since the end of the Second World War, how can anyone believe the official narrative? Why should anyone assume that Muammar Gadhafi will decide to slaughter his own people, particularly since he has a major interest in making the rebellion to his rule go away, an unlikely outcome if he engages in wholesale massacres.
Most Americans would accept that there will be times when our country must use its armed forces as an instrument of foreign policy, but this is not one of those moments. Gadhafi posed no imminent threat to anyone but his own people and it is far from clear whether he was in fact poised to kill large numbers of them in some kind of paroxysm of revenge for the rebellion against his authority. And the problem with humanitarian intervention as a concept is that it opens the door to more of the same wherever there are violations of fundamental rights. It is perhaps necessary to step back and establish some sort of metric for intervention, but attempting to do so produces some odd results. When should one intervene on humanitarian grounds and what are the numbers of deaths required to trigger some kind of United States response?
Many countries are not shy about massacring civilians. The United States has itself killed tens of thousands of them in Iraq and Afghanistan. Even accepting that Gadhafi might have killed some hundreds of Libyans, he is not exactly unique. Protesters have recently been met by force in a number of countries in the Arab world, to include Algeria, Yemen, Bahrain, and Syria and there have been large numbers of fatalities. How does the United States make a decision whether or not to intervene in those places to save lives? Is the decision based on the number of deaths, the types of deaths, or, one suspects, the relationship of Washington with whoever is in charge in the respective countries? Gadhafi was a convenient fall guy and it now appears that President Bashar Assad of Syria is possibly also being set up, but is there any chance that Washington will pull the plug on its support of the Kings of Bahrain and Saudi Arabia?
And then there are other non-Arab friends of the United States like Israel. By any metric Israel should be attacked first to prevent massacres of civilians as it has killed thousands of Arabs in internationally recognized war crimes carried out in Lebanon and Gaza. That Israel is untouchable on humanitarian grounds raises the inevitable question about Washington’s hypocrisy. A friendly Saudi Arabia too has demonstrated that it is more than willing to use force to maintain its autarchic rule. It sent troops to aid neighboring Bahrain, which exacerbated the problem in that nation rather than mitigating the unrest, and has indicated that it is prepared to use force to continue its dominance in the oil producing eastern parts of the country, which are predominantly Shi’ite. And then there are countries like Burma, where repression is so regular that it is hardly remarked upon, and the Ivory Coast, which is currently going through its own brand of bloodletting with more than 1,000 bodies discovered over the weekend.
In short, there are a whole lot of countries that are ripe for a little humanitarian intervention and even regime change in the more obdurate cases, but there are a couple of good reasons not to do so. First is the ethical consideration that interventions might be grounded in good intentions but they are generally based on inaccurate or even false information about the situation on the ground, which renders suspect the humanitarian aspect itself. Second, whenever a humanitarian intervention takes place it often produces a bad result. America’s assistance to the mujahedin in Afghanistan certainly did remove an occupying Russian army but it also led to the Taliban and al-Qaeda. The often cited massacres in the Balkans in the 1990s turned out to be mostly fictional and the result of the intervention has been a Kosovar state that has become a center for drug trafficking, organ sales, and Islamic radicalism in Europe.
And then there is Iraq. Iraq is a poster child for the collateral damage that goes hand in hand with interventions. It is called mission creep, which happens every time a humanitarian mission is launched. The neocon fantasy of a short, surgical invasion of Iraq to topple a tyrant and free the people, all paid for by oil revenue, and a quick exit turned out to be anything but. To be sure, Saddam fell on schedule but he was succeeded by an eight year occupation and still counting, a multiple trillion dollar accounts due, hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions displaced, and a corrupt government in Baghdad that is closer to Tehran than it is to Washington. Somalia likewise started as a UN program to feed Mogadishu and wound up as Blackhawk Down. Libya is already beginning to look a lot like Uncle Remus’ tar baby. Easy to take hold of but hard to release.
The Democratic Party’s undying affection for humanitarian gestures is more than regrettable. Watching President Obama’s half smirk as he explains in the most honest and truthful terms how he is doing something wonderful for the Libyan people is reminiscent of Bill Clinton’s similar unctuously sincere performances as he ordered the bombing of Serbia. Neither should be any more acceptable than the truly awful Bush Doctrine that gave the United States carte blanche to invade any country in the world for reasons of security. Both Republican and Democratic doctrines should be rejected because experience suggests that they do not save lives anywhere, quite the contrary, and each unfortunate overseas adventure only represents a new burden that has to be borne with no discernible gain for the American people.








#1 by Sam on April 7, 2011 - 3:43 pm
I also recommend reading Fred Weston’s article “The nature of the Gaddafi regime – historical background notes” at:
http://www.marxist.com/nature-of-gaddafi-regime.htm
#2 by D Costa on April 7, 2011 - 4:44 pm
America either should not engage in anymore “Humanitarian” wars or should do the most Humanitarian of all interventions which is:
To launch an attack on Israel.
Why should America attack countries that have not harmed America?
Remember USS Liberty and who is the culprit?
America has every right to militarily attack Israel and the parasite will no longer be there to bleed America, destroy America, spy on America, steal America and destroy the peace of every citizen everywhere.
It is time!
America needs to stop participating in crime under the guise of “Humanitarian” work and here is more:
“VT SOUTHEAST EUROPE: Secret NATO Recordings Tell of Drugs and Human Trafficking
April 6, 2011 posted by Vojislav Milosevic–[from Veterans Today website]
“Part 1.
BELGRADE – April 6th 2011.
The leaders of NATO’s 13th March 1999. in Brussels at a secret meeting made a decision to bomb Serbia. The same day NATO war headquarters for the Medical Corps meeting was held. Chaired by Bernard Kouchner, who was already set for the first UN High Representative for Kosovo.
According to the operational plan of aggression against Serbia, medical and rescue teams to the field should play a major role after the expulsion of Serbian security forces from Kosovo.
Kouchner stressed the importance of medical and medical teams dropping reference to the experience Croatia and Bosnia.
At this meeting made the following conclusions:
BELGRADE – In the second part talks a former NATO Secretary General Javier Solana and Alliance supreme commander Wesley Clark evoke memories of the war campaigns in Serbia 1999th year.
Solana: But tell me, Wesley, how’s it going with the privatization of enterprises in Kosovo? Who is there of our friends?
Clark: We have experts who set the main say in the provisional government of Kosovo. The chairman of the Fred Barlow, who know only from the highest authorities in Prishtina. Political conductor of the Madeleine, which, along with Richard (Holbrooke, currently dead), buys everything worth in Kosovo. They are so diversified businesses, often think that one day it will move to live in Prishtina.
Solana: Wesley, something I was informed last night that there was a disagreement between Kissinger and Brzezinski, but remained incomplete. What is it badly stored at the Pentagon?
Clark: Kissinger and Brzezinski have a cat and mouse, because it is constantly pursuing, but not one without the other. Enjoy the role, because they know that American policy makers. Closer to me Brzezinski, because he is more bellicose. If we had listened to him during the bombing of Serbia would not any more. Kissinger was a wimp and, as I said, in good faith. He criticized me for the attack on the Belgrade television.
Solana: Yes, it’s too tepid.
Clark: With Serbia will always be problems, because it is rebellious and belligerent people. When interviewed about the Serbs in Krajina, some of our suggested protracted war, and I cut an order to expel all Serbs from Krajina and Croatia. Croatia was quiet for decades. What war with them! They fled to the forests for years to embittered life of the Croats, because they have experience of partisan warfare.
Solana: Wesley, you know that I have given a free hand over the selection of targets and nearly me be extinguished career because of it. Conveyed to me that Clinton personally goaded NATO generals against me, because to him for this position more comfortable Italian Romano Prodi. Italians I most objected to the bombing did not prevent television. You’re right, Wesley, Serbia had to be razed. I look at this from the Serbian government and, frankly to tell you, disgusted me, because the ordinary poltroons and sycophants.
Clark: What are women in Belgrade, you’re often in a visit to Belgrade?
Solana: All I will refer. Serbia had been neglected during the Milosevic era, but women are much more beautiful. After the arrival of the Democrats to power the situation changed. For funny money you can have the most beautiful women. In some ministries, the Serbian Government you can have the most stunning beauties willing to spend the night
with a stranger for $500. Income in Serbia is still miserable.
Clark: You seem to have great experience in this field.
Solana: I’ll give you the phone number of a man who has everything you need. There are also actresses, singers and
stars, cream of the Serbian capital.
Part 2.
BELGRADE
The top people at NATO Wesley Clark and Javier Solana knew that international forces in Kosovo organ trafficking and dealing drugs, and may have were involved in these activities!
Specifically, 15 August 2001. in a rented villa in the Swiss Alps met a former NATO supreme commander, U.S. General Wesley Clark and Javier Solana, NATO Secretary General.
Courier came to the transcript of the conversation the two top people at NATO, which confirms many concerns related to trafficking in human organs and illegal trade drugs. We recall that the trade in human organs involved and the investigators of the Hague Tribunal, but has recently been launched on the initiative of Russia and the investigation of this problem in Council of Europe.
A courier will with the editors of the text convey the full interview Solana and Clark.
That evening at home with them were present and two girls, whose role was to improve two powerful “moods.” They spoke in a relaxed atmosphere with a glass of drink.
Clark: In these days I will visit Kosovo …
Solana: Be careful, Sparta Kosovo gang of drug dealers. There is no law, no control … Well, big mistake we made when we opened this (the Albanians) to rule.
Clark: Yes. Maybe.
Solana: IT’S CIA operatives … They are important not only to drugs and their jobs …
Clark: Yes, I know that down … Often I go to Kosovo, mostly incognito, so safer. But now I have to do a job. Need to transfer cargo to Fort Beach.
Solana: I guess not so urgent … Do you think the authorities?
Clark: Yes, yes …
Solana: It works well Bondsteel. Shlafkok (man in charge of security bases.) and Kouchner (Bernar, the first head of UNMIK, the current foreign minister of France, the investigating authorities Hague tribunal examining its relationship to human bodies.) are excellent and can do the job …
Clark: Yes. It seems that it is now urgent. Constantly held some meetings with General Anderson. When I finish it, I hopped a little way to Serbia. What do you think will make me wait?
Solana: Do not worry, be obedient. These in Belgrade are much more obedient even than those in Podgorica. In Montenegro, are subject to change presidents, but still pulling all the strings Milo, because money buys all. Once you were in Belgrade, avoid contact with Kostunica and his people … You know, relations between him and Djindjic have been quite chilled … However, I think that Djindjic is right … Kostunica is inconvenient for cooperation.
You know, when you talk with him, always listening carefully, butend of the the conversation always gets hot stuff …
With him, we never could get to the end agree on anything …
Clark: What do you think, how they will react to this around the TV station? You know that I am in the book
wrote that I personally selected the targets …
Solana: Yes, I know, I saw” …
Clark: But I also know how much I was pressed by Clinton to bomb
Serbian television …
Solana: What we know is our secret! This is not to dare with anyone to talk!
He would later be determined that a team of doctors and medical staff at our retreat
Army and police from Kosovo were transferred to NATO base Bondsteel near Ferizaj. It is became a hospital for the removal of organs from captured and kidnapped Serbs and other non-Albanians, but also unfortunate girls who are from many parts of the world were brought to entertain NATO troops, KFOR and the police, UNPROFOR.
The latest data from Kosovo say that from Camp Bondsteel flies daily between six and 14 aircraft for which there is reasonable suspicion of transporting bodies in hospitals of Western European countries, mostly in the Royal Hospital in London.
Recently the initiative of Russia and the Council of Europe launched an investigation on organ trafficking in Kosovo.
The investigation is not finished yet, but initial results indicate the involvement of Kosovo international forces in the crime.”
Wesley Clark recently came forward about the planned attack on Libya but he did not tell us about these atrocious things.
#3 by D Costa on April 7, 2011 - 4:52 pm
Here is more related to the same aforementioned information about NATO criminal activities:
“At this meeting made the following conclusions:
1) The seizure of ambulances from the army and police and their treatment as a war
prey. Command staff of the army and police can not be withdrawn to Serbia, but should be
maintain in order to investigate their involvement in war crimes
2) When Cleaning up after the defeat of the army and police, agents use strong
to prevent identification of the fallen standard pathological methods, and
even DNA analysis.
3) The medical staff of NATO can not provide assistance to seriously wounded, but
they have to eliminate Serbs by euthanasia (intentionally causing death, usually using some poison).
4) Keep the doctors and nurses after the capitulation of Serbian origin, that they have seized personal documents and to commit themselves to years of service in hospitals in Albania.
5) abandoned children under the age of eight years should be taken to have saved the military NATO hospital in Vlore (Albania). (ICTY investigators have found evidence of existence 10 of this hospital, in which Serbs captured extracted organs: kidneys, liver, heart, spinal cord).
6) It is easier for wounded soldiers, policemen and citizens of Serbian descent who are not damaged
vital organs to transfer to a military hospital in Vlore. (R.K.)”
#4 by Massimo on April 7, 2011 - 11:33 pm
I can’t say it any better than this man :
Farrakhan Warns, Advises Obama on Libya
#5 by funky d on April 8, 2011 - 3:36 am
‘he did down both American and French commercial airliners in 1988 and 1989, resulting in major loss of life.’ BULLSHIT. EVERYONE KNOWS LOCKERBIE WAS A MOSSAD AND CIA OPERATION AND AL-MEGRAHI WAS THE VICTIM OF A DISGUSTING MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE. HE WAS RELEASED BECAUSE THE UK COURTS REALISED THE DISGRACEFUL CONVICTION WAS NOT GOING TO STAND ON A FULL APPEAL.
‘He also ordered his agents to bomb a club frequented by American soldiers in Berlin in 1986, killing three’. BULLSHIT AGAIN. THIS WAS MOSSAD ACTING ALONE SO AS TO ENRAGE AMERICA AGAINST LIBYA AND BOMB HIM. WHICH THEY SUBSEQUENTLY DID AND MURDERED CHILDREN. VERY BRAVE OF AMERICA THAT DO YOU NOT THINK.
#6 by Bill In Ohio on April 8, 2011 - 1:36 pm
‘Humanitarian war’ is an oxymoron..
#7 by D Costa on April 10, 2011 - 7:17 pm
What is the real reason behind Santa Monica synagogue explosion above and beyond crying out anti-Semitism?
March 18, 2004
“Yet Another Hate Crime Hoax” an article by Thomas Lifson posted again on 4/7/11
“I hope that someone is collecting a comprehensive list of all the hate crime hoaxes which have been discovered in recent years. It often seems that hoaxes are so common that skepticism should always be appropriate when a new instance of racist, sexist, anti—homosexual, anti—Semitic, or other politically unacceptable graffiti is reported.
The latest apparent hoax comes once again from a prestigious campus. It seems that the fevered consciousness of racism so common to academia, when deprived of actual overt acts of racism, drives some people to serve the ‘higher truth’ of racism by creating phony acts of same.
This time, it isn’t a student who is implicated; it is a professor.
Dr. Kerri Dunn, a Visiting Assistant Professor of Psychology at Claremont McKenna College in Southern California, was seen by two witnesses applying ‘racist, anti—Semitic and sexist epithets’ to her car. Additionally, local police reported that the professor had given them inconsistent statements regarding the affair.
The incident prompted all five of the Claremont Colleges to cancel classes March 10 for teach—ins and rallies against hate crimes. More than 1,000 people attended an evening rally at Claremont McKenna, where students pushed for racial and ethnic tolerance and Dunn was one of the speakers.
This is far from the first time that a campus has been plunged into turmoil by phony reports of a hate crime, in fact generated by the purported victim. Often, the perpetrator faces only trivial charges and punishment. So far, the only potential charge being mentioned for Professor Dunn is the misdemeanor of filing a false police report.
Given the seriousness with which the law treats hate crimes, it seems only fair that a hate crime hoax should be treated as severely as the underlying crime being fabricated. Since passions are being deliberately inflamed, as in a genuine hate crime, and that the additional aggravating factor of fraud is present, the law should actually treat hoaxes even more severely than genuine hate crimes.
Serious jail time for hate crime hoaxers would help dampen this rampant crime wave. As reports of hate crimes fell, there is even the chance that actual social harmony might increase. Imagine that!
on “Yet Another Hate Crime Hoax”
–By Thomas Lifson, American Thinker 4/7/11
Read about more hate crime hoaxes in the book:
“Crying Wolf”—Hate Crime hoaxes in America by Laird Wilcox.
#8 by D Costa on April 11, 2011 - 2:33 pm
Peter Macdonald says:
April 11, 2011
“Identifying Terrorists Response
US Senator Susan Collins writes an editorial for the newspaper about “It’s about keeping our homeland safe”. Our politicians must learn Jihad is a minor factor in the safety of the USA. Politicians not listening to the voters should be the first line of defense to change. Our politicians with all their pet projects and self imposed pay raises and benefits above and beyond what the tax payers or even the US can afford damages our freedom far more than Jihad. Jihad is a rebellion formed against the detrimental way of life in their religious homeland. Jihad is physically and mentally depressed people grasping at religion to believe that there is something better. Jihad is dictators using the weak mind of some to try to dominate all. We the people of the USA have a responsibility to stop the Jihad and all terrorist but we also have to stop our own politicians from forming a depressed nation as the Jihad come from. The definition of Jihad looks a lot like the US Senate of today.
When newspapers can censor opinion letters from US citizens for our government officials want the public to believe the writer is a danger. Newspapers and government harming the character of a US citizen to gain public support to cover up wrongs in government must be stopped. Dismantling of our Constitution to form a special class of citizens to be supported by the others has been formed in the USA. We elect new to change the old but the promises soon wither as the greed of the well established soon “Jihad the new-bees. This letter will be censored for it questions the integrity of our government officials. Senator Collins writes to gain the minds of some through fear in her article. Senator Collins refuses to listen to the voters unless it can benefit here self-profit over the weak minded.
Senator Collins is from Maine. I am from NH. I write Senator Collins as all US Senators every day. I get form letters back from each every day. I was put in jail as a terrorist to stop my letters of government wrongs. NH government is using the trusted power of the people to stop my free speech of government wrongs. My VA medical for service connected combat related disabilities was stopped until I stop writing. All because I refuse to let go a case that I presented to the NH Supreme Court of criminal wrongs by Judge Peter Fauver. The NH SC refused to hear the case and covered it up. Fauver knowingly with intent to harm used the law to help the Madbury NH selectmen decide who is good enough to live and work in Madbury NH. Jihad exists in Madbury and our NHSC.
US Senator Collins as all the other Politicians only hears what they can use. It is the obligation of all US citizens to stops wrongs of government officials even if those officials are as dominate as the NH Supreme Court justices.
Jihad comes in many forms and we must stop it even in our own capital, which is our homeland.
Peter Macdonald Sgt USMC Semper Fi
465 Packers falls Rd Lee NH 03824 603-659-6217″
Peter, you are an inspiration for courage.
The only Jihad I see as a danger to us is from those like Collins who are Israel Firsters who have allowed ADL, SPLC, AIPAC and other Zionist organizations and Zionist bankers to run America and loot Americans and spy on them.
#9 by D Costa on April 12, 2011 - 2:57 pm
AJHenry says:
April 11
“Jews pulling the triggers would be a much safer bet. If Jewish control of the Soviet state is a new idea, see the following books for the facts:
Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed (http://iamthewitness.com/books/?dir=Douglas.Reed%2FThe.Controversy.of.Zion%2F)
Jews in Russia by Andrey Diky (http://iamthewitness.com/books/Andrey.Iv.Diky/Jews.in.Russia.and.in.the.USSR/index.htm#_Toc185714882)”
Floda says:
April 11, 2011
“Katyn was just one of many massacres perpetrated by the Jewish run NKVD. In Vynitsia Ukraine and many other East European centers, the arriving German Army was informed by locals that they suspected something terrible had been going on inside the Jail. The Germans began to dig and discovered around 22,000 Ukrainians had been given the ‘Katyn’ treatment beginning in 1938, over three years BEFORE war broke out.
Dispensing with future enemies is a uniquely Jewish battle tactic. You can see them doing it today in Gaza where they murder small children, ‘because they grow up and become TERRORISTS’. One officer was charged with emptying 11 Bullets into a twelve year old girl. At what passes for his ‘Trial’, he said he would have done the same, ‘If she was a three year old’.
He was acquitted, this is what you American soldiers have been dying and getting your asses shot off for a very long time. It’s time some patriotic men in the US Military began to think seriously about placing you entire Parliament under arrest and making up lists of other traitors to hunt down.”
Please read:
“The Katyn Forest Massacre – A Revisionist History Rosetta Stone”
April 11, 2011 posted by Jim W. Dean on Veterans Today.