Millions of Evangelical Christians Want to Start WWIII to Speed the “Second Coming”…


 … and Atheist Neocons are Using Religion to Rile Them Up to Justify War Against Iran

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The Founding Fathers weren’t particularly anti-Islam.

But millions of Americans believe that Christ will not come again until Israel wipes out its competitors and there is widespread war in the Middle East. Some of these folks want to start a huge fire of war and death and destruction, so that Jesus comes quickly.

According to French President Chirac, Bush told him that the Iraq war was needed to bring on the apocalypse:

In Genesis and Ezekiel  Gog and Magog  are forces of the Apocalypse who are prophesied to come  out of the  north and destroy Israel unless stopped. The Book of  Revelation took up  the Old Testament prophesy:

“And  when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be  loosed out of his  prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations  which are in the four  quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather  them together to battle  and fire came down from God out of heaven, and  devoured them.”

Bush believed the time had now come for that battle, telling Chirac:

“This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins”…

There  can be little doubt now that President Bush’s  reason for launching the  war in Iraq was, for him, fundamentally  religious. He was driven by his  belief that the attack on Saddam’s Iraq  was the fulfilment of a Biblical  prophesy in which he had been chosen  to serve as the instrument of the  Lord.

And British Prime Minister Tony Blair long-time mentor, advisor and confidante said:

“Tony’s  Christian faith is part of him, down to his  cotton socks. He believed  strongly at the time, that intervention in  Kosovo, Sierra Leone – Iraq  too – was all part of the Christian battle;  good should triumph over  evil, making lives better.”

Mr Burton, who was often described as  Mr Blair’s mentor, says that  his religion gave him a “total belief in  what’s right and what’s  wrong”, leading him to see the so-called War on  Terror as “a moral  cause”…

Anti-war campaigners criticised  remarks Mr Blair made in 2006,  suggesting that the decision to go to war  in Iraq would ultimately be  judged by God.

Bill Moyers reports that  the organization   Christians United for Israel – led by highly-influential Pastor John C. Hagee – is a universal call to all  Christians to help factions in Israel fund the Jewish settlements, throw  out all the Palestinians and lobby for a  pre-emptive invasion of Iran.  All to bring Russia into a war against us causing World War III  followed by Armageddon, the Second Coming and The Rapture.  See this and this.

This all revolves around what is called Dispensationalism.  So popular is Dispensationalism that  Tim LaHaye’s Left Behind series has sold 65 million copies.

Dispensationalists include the following mega-pastors and their churches:

They are supported by politicians such as:

  • Texas Senator John Cronyn
  • And others

Dr. Timothy Webber –  an evangelical Christian who has served as a teacher of church history and the history of American religion at Denver Seminary and Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Vice-President at Northern Baptist Theological Seminary in Lombard, IL, and President of Memphis Theological Seminary in Tennessee –  notes:

 

In a recent Time/CNN poll, more than one-third of Americans said that  since the terrorist attacks of 9/11, they have been thinking more about  how current events might be leading to the end of the world.

  While only 36 percent of all Americans believe that the Bible is God’s  Word and should be taken literally, 59 percent say they believe that  events predicted in the Book of Revelation will come to pass. Almost one  out of four Americans believes that 9/11 was predicted in the Bible,  and nearly one in five believes that he or she will live long enough to  see the end of the world. Even more significant for this study, over  one-third of those Americans who support Israel report that they do so  because they believe the Bible teaches that the Jews must possess their  own country in the Holy Land before Jesus can return. 

 

  Millions of Americans believe that the Bible predicts the future and  that we are living in the last days. Their beliefs are rooted in  dispensationalism, a particular way of understanding the Bible’s  prophetic passages, especially those in Daniel and Ezekiel in the Old  Testament and the Book of Revelation in the New Testament. They make up  about one-third of America’s 40 or 50 million evangelical Christians and  believe that the nation of Israel will play a central role in the  unfolding of end-times events. In the last part of the 20th century,  dispensationalist evangelicals become Israel’s best friends-an alliance  that has made a serious geopolitical difference.

 

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Starting in the 1970s, dispensationalists broke into the popular  culture with runaway best-sellers, and a well-networked political  campaign to promote and protect the interests of Israel. Since the  mid-1990s, tens of millions of people who have never seen a prophetic  chart or listened to a sermon on the second coming have read one or more  novels in the Left Behind series, which has become the most effective  disseminator of dispensationalist ideas ever.

 

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During the early 1980s the Israeli Ministry of Tourism recruited evangelical religious leaders for free “familiarization” tours. In time, hundreds of evangelical pastors got free trips to the Holy Land. The purpose of such promotional tours was to enable people of even limited influence to experience Israel for themselves and be shown how they might bring their own tour group to Israel. The Ministry of Tourism was interested in more than tourist dollars: here was a way of building a solid corps of non-Jewish supporters for Israel in the United States by bringing large numbers of evangelicals to hear and see Israel’s story for themselves. The strategy caught on.

 

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Shortly after the Six-Day War, elements within the Israeli  government saw the potential power of the evangelical subculture and  began to mobilize it as a base of support that could influence American  foreign policy. The Israeli government sent Yona Malachy of its  Department of Religious Affairs to the United States to study American fundamentalism and its potential as an ally of Israel. Malachy was warmly received by fundamentalists  and was able to influence some of them to issue strong pro-Israeli  manifestos. By the mid-1980s, there was a discernible shift in the  Israeli political strategy. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee  (AIPAC), the Jewish state’s major lobbying group in Washington, D.C.,  started re-aligning itself with the American political right-wing,  including Christian conservatives. Israel’s timing was perfect. It began  working seriously with American dispensationalists at the precise  moment that American fundamentalists and evangelicals were discovering  their political voice.

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  Probably the largest pro-Israel organization of its kind is the National  Unity Coalition for Israel, which was founded by a Jewish woman who  learned how to get dispensationalist support. NUCI opposes “the  establishment of a Palestinian state within the borders of Israel.”

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In their commitment to keep Israel strong and moving in directions  prophesied by the Bible, dispensationalists are supporting some of the  most dangerous elements in Israeli society.  They do so because such  political and religious elements seem to conform to dispensationalist  beliefs about what is coming next for Israel. By lending their  support-both financial and spiritual-to such groups, dispensationalists  are helping the future they envision come to pass.

 

 

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Dispensationalists believe that the Temple is coming too; and their  convictions have led them to support the aims and actions of what most  Israelis believe are the most dangerous right-wing elements in their  society, people whose views make any compromise necessary for lasting  peace impossible. Such sentiments do not matter to the believers in  Bible prophecy, for whom the outcome of the quarrelsome issue of the  Temple Mount has already been determined by God.

Since the end of the Six-Day War, then, dispensationalists have  increasingly moved from observers to participant-observers. They have  acted consistently with their convictions about the coming Last Days in  ways that make their prophecies appear to be self-fulfilling.

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As  Paul Boyer has pointed out, dispensationalism has effectively  conditioned millions of Americans to be somewhat passive about the  future and provided them with lenses through which to understand world  events. Thanks to the sometimes changing perspectives of their Bible  teachers, dispensationalists are certain that trouble in the Middle East  is inevitable, that nations will war against nations, and that the time  is coming when millions of people will die as a result of nuclear war,  the persecution of Antichrist, or as a result of divine judgment. Striving for peace in the Middle East is a hopeless pursuit with no  chance of success.

 

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  For the dispensational community, the future is determined. The Bible’s  prophecies are being fulfilled with amazing accuracy and rapidity.  They  do not believe that the Road Map will-or should-succeed.  According to  the prophetic texts, partitioning is not in Israel’s future, even if the  creation of a Palestinian state is the best chance for peace in the  region. Peace is nowhere prophesied for the Middle East, until Jesus  comes and brings it himself. The worse thing that the United States, the  European Union, Russia, and the United Nations can do is force Israel  to give up land for a peace that will never materialize this side of the  second coming. Anyone who pushes for peace in such a manner is ignoring  or defying God’s plan for the end of the age.

 

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It seems clear that dispensationalism is on a roll, that its followers  feel they are riding the wave of history into the shore of God’s final  plan. Why should they climb back into the stands when being on the field  of play is so much more fun and apparently so beneficial to the game’s  outcome? As [one dispensationalist group’s] advertisement read,  “Don’t just read  about prophecy when you can be part of it.”

Not a Problem with Judaism … Or Christianity

Most Americans confuse Zionism and Judaism.

But many devout Jews are against Zionism, and Zionists can be Christian.

Those who say that criticizing Zionism is anti-semitic  are misleading people for their own ulterior motives which have nothing  to do with ensuring the safety of the Jewish people.

Israeli Zionists are no more true to the cultural heritage of the Jewish people than Christian Zionists are.

Atheist War Hawks Manipulate Believers to Beat the Drums of War

Leo Strauss is the father of the Neo-Conservative movement, including  many leaders of the current administration.

Indeed, many of the main  neocon players – including Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Stephen Cambone, Elliot Abrams, and Adam Shulsky – were students of Strauss at the University of Chicago,  where he taught for many years.

The people pushing for war against Iran are the same neocons who pushed for war against Iraq. See this and this. (They planned both wars at least 20 years ago.)    For example, Shulsky was the director of the Office of Special Plans –  the Pentagon unit responsible for selling false intelligence regarding Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.  He is now a member of the equivalent organization targeting Iran: the Iranian Directorate.

Strauss, born in Germany, was an admirer of Nazi philosophers and of Machiavelli.   Strauss believed that a  stable political order required an external threat and that if an external threat did not exist, one should be manufactured. Specifically, Strauss thought that:

A  political order can be stable only if it is united by an external  threat . . . . Following Machiavelli, he maintained that if no external  threat exists then one has to be manufactured

(the quote is by one of Strauss’ main biographers).

Indeed, Stauss used the analogy of Gulliver’s Travels to show what a Neocon-run society would look like:

“When  Lilliput [the town] was on fire, Gulliver urinated over the city,  including the palace. In so doing, he saved all of Lilliput from  catastrophe, but the Lilliputians were outraged and appalled by such a  show of disrespect.” (this quote also from the same biographer)

Moreover, Strauss said:

Only a great fool would call the new political science diabolic . . . Nevertheless one may say of it that it fiddles while Rome burns. It is excused by two facts: it does not know that it fiddles, and it does not know that Rome burns. 

So Strauss seems to have advocated governments letting  terrorizing catastrophes happen on one’s own soil to one’s own people  — of “pissing” on one’s own people, to use his Gulliver’s travel  analogy. And he advocates that government’s should pretend that  they did not know about such acts of mayhem: to intentionally “not know”  that Rome is burning. He advocates messing with one’s own people in  order to save them from some “catastophe” (perhaps to justify military  efforts to monopolize middle eastern oil to keep it away from our real  threat — an increasingly-powerful China?).

What does this have to do with religion?

Strauss taught  that religion should be used as a way to manipulate people to achieve  the aims of the leaders.  But that the leaders themselves need not  believe in religion.

As Wikipedia notes:

In the late 1990s Irving Kristol and other writers in neoconservative magazines began touting anti-Darwinist views, in support of intelligent design. Since these neoconservatives were largely of secular backgrounds, a few commentators have speculated that this – along with support for religion generally – may have been a case of a “noble lie”, intended to protect public morality, or even tactical politics, to attract religious supporters.

So is it any surprise that the folks who planned war against Iraq and Iran at least 20 years ago are pushing religious disinformation to stir up the evangelical community?

I’ve recently seen a swarm of spam claiming that all Muslims are evil, that they want to take over the world and establish a Muslim caliphate, and that they want to nuke Israel.  They misquote Muslims and use false statements to try to stir up religious hatred.

They are simply promoting the Straussian playbook: stir up religious sentiment – even if you are personally an atheist – to create and demonize an “enemy”, so as to promote war …

Postscript 1: While there are certainly some Arab terrorists, Islam cannot be blamed for their barbaric murderous actions, just as Christianity cannot be blamed for the Norwegian Christian terrorist – Anders Behring Breivik’s – actions.

University of Chicago professor Robert A. Pape – who specializes in international security affairs –  points out:

Extensive research into the causes of suicide terrorism proves Islam  isn’t to blame — the root of the problem is foreign military  occupations.

And the 9/11 hijackers used cocaine and drank alcohol, slept with  prostitutes and attended strip clubs … but they did not worship at any  mosque.  See thisthis, this, this, this, this, this, and this. Postscript 2: Neoliberals and Neoconservatives are very similar in many ways.  And because Neocons are not conservative, nothing in this post is meant to criticize conservatism.

Postscript 3:  Most evangelicals are not dispensionalists, and so do not want to bring on armageddon.

  1. #1 by Greg Burton on March 19, 2012 - 4:21 pm

    It is Israel’s secret desire is to take advantage of the Christian rights per-eminent position in US politics. To co-opt the Christian “Zionists” to Israel’s foreign policy objectives.

  2. #2 by Wally D on March 19, 2012 - 4:38 pm

    “Noble Lies” is nothing more than cold-blooded deception designed to herd goyim off to war for Israel. The Neo-Cons promoting endless wars on Muslims, in Jesus’s name, are no better than the conning hucksters seen on TV asking your “love offerings” They’re both vile parasites feeding on ignorance and stupidity.

  3. #3 by equalizer on March 19, 2012 - 4:42 pm

    George Washinton and Benjamin Franklin on the jews:

    http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/toread/frnklin.htm

  4. #4 by equalizer on March 19, 2012 - 4:43 pm

    should be Washington

  5. #5 by equalizer on March 19, 2012 - 5:04 pm

    From “The Last Crusader: Isabella of Spain: 1451-1504″, by William Thomas Walsh published 1930: Isabel and Fernando signed their names on March 31, 1492, to a document commencing thus: “You know, or ought to know, that since we were informed that there were certain evil Christians in these our realms who judaized and apostatized from our Holy Catholic Faith, on account of the considerable communication of Jews with Christians, we commanded the said (Jews) in the Cortes which we held in the city of Toledo in the past year 1480, to go apart in all the cities, towns and places of our realms……and gave then Jeweries and separate places where they might live, hoping that with their segregation the matter might be remedied And moreover, we have endeavored and given orders to have inquisition made in our said realms and seignories; which, as you know, has been done for more than twelve years, and is done; and many guilty persons have been sentenced by it, as is well known…(Yet) there remains and is apparent the great injury to the Christians which has resulted and does result from the participation, conversation and communication which they have held and hold with the Jews, who have demonstrated that they would always endeavor, by all possible ways and manners, to subvert and draw away faithful Christians from our Holy Catholic Faith, and separate them from it, and attract and pervert them to their wicked belief and opinion, instructing them in their ceremonies and observances of their law,…”

  6. #6 by Goldberg on March 19, 2012 - 5:21 pm

    Listen ,,you people don’t understand,,Israel is America,,NEW JER-USA-LEM
    Zechariah 2
    1I lifted up mine eyes again, and looked, and behold a man with a measuring line in his hand.

    2Then said I, Whither goest thou? And he said unto me, To measure Jerusalem, to see what is the breadth thereof, and what is the length thereof.

    3And, behold, the angel that talked with me went forth, and another angel went out to meet him,

    4And said unto him, Run, speak to this young man, saying, Jerusalem shall be inhabited as towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein:

    5For I, saith the LORD, will be unto her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her.
    America is going to burn,not the hell hole where those impostors lives.Later one the jews are going to be destroy,,but first,,America must perish.Then the jewish devil will become the darkness of the world(Antichrist-666–just take a look at their flag,,the six pointed star)) and they will control the world from jewsrael–PAX judaica..
    Read this important book for free,,here you have in detail the final destruction of the jews,.

  7. #7 by Naeem on March 19, 2012 - 6:06 pm

    Don’t these folls know that evrything their for, jesus pbuh was against. Who are the really following SATAN himself by obeying zionist jews your obeying the devil.

  8. #8 by Vickie Jacobs on March 19, 2012 - 6:26 pm

    This is a very good article. One thing though. You can’t have the Rapture till everyone has received the so called ‘mark of the beast Rev. 13:16.’ Ofcourse, this is what they have believed. Maybe now they are dumping this so called belief to get on with the real stuff….their Armagedon….Rev.16:16

    Armagedon……..is for the church only….Rev. 1:1; Rev. 10:11.
    ……the church..(great city called Sodom/scorpions and Egypt/serpents Zechariah 10:10) Rev.11:8. It’s full of serpents and scorpions……..just look at the list above…….John Hagee/Pat Robertson/masons….

    The seven cities are talking about those who overcame (overcometh) the serpents and scorpions. They should of got the ‘hell’ out when they had the chance. God!! You dumb blind, foolish women……the division is for the church…Ezekiel 5:1-5/Zechariah 13:8,9. No wonder this woman cries out in pain…one part of the church is trying to wake up the other part… the dumb, blind children still sitting singing in pews!!!!!!!! You’re marked!!!!!!!!!!!!

  9. #9 by Ronald L. Waldron on March 19, 2012 - 6:45 pm

    Republicans and Millions of Evangelical Christians Want to Start WWIII to Speed the “Second Coming”.

    Neocons are Using Religion to Rile Them Up to Justify War Against Iran. millions of Americans believe that Christ will not come again until Israel wipes out its competitors and there is widespread war in the Middle East. Some of these folks want to start a huge fire of war and death and destruction, so that Jesus comes quickly.

    According to French President Chirac, Bush told him that the Iraq war was needed to bring on the apocalypse:

    In Genesis and Ezekiel Gog and Magog are forces of the Apocalypse who are prophesied to come out of the north and destroy Israel unless stopped. The Book of Revelation took up the Old Testament prophesy:

    “And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.”

    Bush believed the time had now come for that battle, telling Chirac:

    “This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins”…

    There can be little doubt now that President Bush’s reason for launching the war in Iraq was, for him, fundamentally religious. He was driven by his belief that the attack on Saddam’s Iraq was the fulfilment of a Biblical prophesy in which he had been chosen to serve as the instrument of the Lord.

    And British Prime Minister Tony Blair long-time mentor, advisor and confidante said:

    “Tony’s Christian faith is part of him, down to his cotton socks. He believed strongly at the time, that intervention in Kosovo, Sierra Leone – Iraq too – was all part of the Christian battle; good should triumph over evil, making lives better.”

    Mr Burton, who was often described as Mr Blair’s mentor, says that his religion gave him a “total belief in what’s right and what’s wrong”, leading him to see the so-called War on Terror as “a moral cause”…

    Anti-war campaigners criticised remarks Mr Blair made in 2006, suggesting that the decision to go to war in Iraq would ultimately be judged by God.

    Bill Moyers reports that the organization Christians United for Israel – led by highly-influential Pastor John C. Hagee – is a universal call to all Christians to help factions in Israel fund the Jewish settlements, throw out all the Palestinians and lobby for a pre-emptive invasion of Iran. All to bring Russia into a war against us causing World War III followed by Armageddon, the Second Coming and The Rapture. See this and this.

    This all revolves around what is called Dispensationalism. So popular is Dispensationalism that Tim LaHaye’s Left Behind series has sold 65 million copies.

  10. #10 by Ingrid B on March 19, 2012 - 7:04 pm

    why are so many twisted “christians” concentrated in one place?

  11. #11 by Jim on March 19, 2012 - 7:28 pm

    Religious wack-job mammals. As a hard core atheist, It absolutely astonishes me that religion still holds sway with so many millions of people. It was understandable for 14 century humans to believe in such man-made myths, but now, in the second decade of the 21st century??!! It just shows how man is determined to destroy himself. Ironic. Greed and religion will end the human race as we know it. I think there is a very good chance that anyone under 60 will live to see the end of “civilization”.

    Technology has advanced over the last hundred years, but humans have barely evolved at all over the last thousand years. If not for a few people who invented things and discovered others, we’d still be rubbing two sticks togetherfor fire.

  12. #12 by B.Benhamid on March 19, 2012 - 10:34 pm

    They need to be exorcised to expel the devil out of them.

  13. #13 by restinpieces on March 19, 2012 - 10:40 pm

    Sometime in the future your lights will go out. You will approach your neighbor and probably say “Doesn’t it seem strange that the lights are out on nice day like today.” The refrigerator isn’t working. Your neighbor wonders why the bank is closed. The hospital is in locked down. The neighbors are walking around like the sheep that they are. There is nothing but static on your car radio and your short wave radio. No water’s comming out of the faucet. If you have a generator you will want to listen to the propaganda of Radio Japan or Deutsche Welle, but the internet is not working either. That’s when it hits you. Something has happened either near you or on the other side of the world. But what is it? Is it a pandemic, power grid failure, or a monetary collapse? Perhaps, it is an electromagnetic shock wave caused by a nuclear blast in the atmosphere. “What, me worry. Surely, you gest!” You walk to the local Wal-Mart. There is no panic yet. “Yes Ma’am, I will help you add this up. Don’t worry about bagging it.” Cash is king for now. Better use it before it’s no good any more. Armaggeddon has come and gone and you are a survivor. Now comes the hard part. Eat fast! Whatever you have will spoil soon. Very soon there will be fires everywhere, smoke visible for miles, flood waters one meter deep, overturned cars, buildings without rooftops and famine. Looters will be running lose in what used to be your neighborhood. Don’t look to the cops for help. Some of them are on the way to Bolivia. The rest will be joining them soon. The prostitute of the United States is somewhere hiding in a hole. Sorry, I meant the president of the United States. Finally, your neighbors begin to realize that they are helpless until help comes and that is going to be a long wait. All that’s left at the local Wal-Mart now is a can of dog food and some floor wax. Take the dog food, leave the floor wax. As you look around all you see are remnants of skyscrapers standing as monuments to a society that doesn’t exist anymore. In the blink of an eye you begin to realize nothing is ever going to be as it was before. Suddenly, you hear a noise up in the sky, it’s a bird, it’s a plane. It’s a bird. Planes will be not flying anymore for the same reason your toilet is never going to flush again. Looks like you will be the first responder to the pickle that you’re in. The fireman with the $800 survival suit in the trunk of his fire truck isn’t comming to rescue you. Your government spent 430 billion dollars giving him the latest and greatest survival equipment and training. Too bad, your government didn’t spend ten cents training you how to survive or giving you any survival equipment. Don’t bother using the cell phone. It doesn’t work. Even if it did, nobody is there to answer it. The local paramedics are also on their way to an extended visit in Bolivia. There is some people down the street but you’re scared to approach them. What if you have something that they want? Can you defend yourself? And, if they decide to invite you for dinner, does that mean that they’re going feed you or eat you. They look hungry enough to eat you alive but you’re hungry too. Can you kill them all and let God sort them out? Or, are you going to just give up and die? You sure wish you knew where the local shelter is. There is only a small problem with the shelter. It isn’t a shelter at all. It was never meant to be a shelter. It doesn’t have enough supplies or sanitation. The aroma of the sick, tired and huddled masses yearning to breath free will be less than glorious. Don’t even think about leaving a door open to ventilate the area. If you do, the poor, sick and huddled masses inside won’t hesitate to ventilate your cranium. You have to leave the city but where are you going to go to be safe? And, how do you know that you have gone far enough? How will you get there? Did you bring a map? Did you bring a compass? Did you bring a can opener? What will you drink? There isn’t going to be any street sign that says “SAFE PLACE 10 Km ahead.” Even if you reach a small town of 150 people or so. How do you know that the local dwellers are themselves going to survive? How do you know that they are going to help you survive? They may not even let you into town in the first place. “Sorry, buddy nobody in nobody out. By the way, don’t go near the water it’s probably contaminated. Don’t go near the river or the lake, either. There is a bunch of cannibals over there. Last I heard the starving masses ate the liver of the last thirsty guy that just approached that water.” It’s going to be dark soon. Can you start a fire without matches? Can you produce bees wax? Can you paddle a canoe? Can you make a canoe? Can you evade tracking dogs? Can you make penicillin? Can you run 10 miles? Are you fit enough to chop all the wood you will need to keep warm for the next six months? Can you make dynamite? Can you reload ammo? Can you fix a car? Can you deliver a baby? Can you hunt wild life? Can you patch a radiator hose? Can you rescue a boater who has capsized? Can you back up a trailer? Can you use a torque wrench? Can you sharpen a knife? Can you perform CPR? Can you fillet a fish? Can you maneuver a car out of a skid? Can you get a car unstuck? Can you fix a bike flat? Can you mix concrete? Can you fish without a fishing pole? What will you use for bait? Can you cure and dry meat? Can you leap from a bridge to a river? Can you tie a bowline? Can you perform the Heimlich maneuver? Can you reverse hypothermia? Can you escape a sinking car? Can you grow food? Can you put out a fire? Can you treat a burn? Can you treat a snake bite? Can you find potable water? Can you escape a rip current? Do you know Ursa Major from Ursula Andress? Can you tell which birds are edible and which ones are not? Is the Rosary pea edible or is it the China berry? Can you tell the difference between a peanut tree and a pineapple tree? Can you butcher an animal? Can you can apricots. Even if you can, so what? For the sake of argument let’s say you already live in a small town in the middle of nowhere and you do have (1) food, (2) water, (3) medicine, (4) a crank short wave radio, (5) a fold up bicycle, (6) some medical knowledge and a good medical kit, (7) a generator, flashlights and batteries, (8) an emergency shelter, (9) and last and certainly least a 30-06 carbine with 0.45 pistol and plenty of ammunition, YOU’RE STILL GOING TO DIE! We are all going to die. But you and the town you live in are going to get there a lot sooner. Damn! Where are the suicide pills? Where is Dr. Kevorkian when you really need him? There is only one tool that’s going to guarantee your survival. Do you know what it is? Your great-grandfather knew what it was. He used it everyday. However, with the advent of ‘modern’ technology it hasn’t been used in more than a hundred years? Oh well! The choice is simple. Catch up with all those nice people on the way to Bolivia or rest in pieces.

  14. #14 by Vickie Jacobs on March 20, 2012 - 3:37 pm

    Goldberg,

    “For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God:” I Peter 4:17 & Deuteronomy 32:36 and Isaiah 24:5

    It is written for those who are sitting in the churches today that God is going to judge.

    Your webb sight points to those who believe in white supremacy that the real Jews are those of the modern day white race. This is not true and it points to only perfect bloodlines that God blesses.

    God destroyed that heritage (physical Israel now wants it back!). Jesus Christ brought in a spiritual heritage (new covenant) that any can come into if they choose.

    Romans 2:28,29; “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh (29) But he is a Jew, which is one inwaredly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.”

    This is the new wine (Acts 2:13,36)….”Therefore let ALL the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.” Peter calls them ‘Israel’ (Acts 2:22) and John calls them Jews.

    Jeremiah 31:7 says they are a remnant of Israel and these are spiritual Jews only… who have done away with that bloodline belief and brought in the spiritual belief.

    Zechariah 2:12; Jerusalem is not the USA but is referring to spiritual Jerusalem from above(Galatians 4:26 and Rev. 21:2) which is those who have been born of the spirit.

    I really don’t want to sound mean and I hope you don’t look on it as sounding that way. I myself have been led down paths that I had to backtrack from.

  15. #15 by galwayspaniard on March 27, 2012 - 11:48 pm

    when the skies are dark and the evangelicals are whooping it up. I am going to mind my business, take meds VA gives me, and watch evangelicals make asses out of themselves
    I jusrt want the evangelical idiots to keep away from me
    I am not violent but if evangelicals bug me I am going to throw them out of my door and down the steps and have the hogs come over to chase them away

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