Former Mossad chief, Israeli minister trade accusations at New York conference


Meir Dagan defends statements made by former Shin Bet security service chief, criticizing Netanyahu and Barak over Iran; Minister Gilad Erdan says Dagan sabotaging international efforts to halt Iran’s nuclear program; ex-PM Olmert joins in defense of Dagan, Diskin.

ed note–the sudden ‘turning’ on the part of Dagan, Yiskin, Olmert and others against the policies and person of Netanyahu can–in my opinion–best be explained and understood by the following comparison.

Albert Anastasia was a brutal Mafia gangster in the early part of the 20th century. One of the heads of Murder Inc (said to be responsible for as many as 700 murders) Anastasia loved perpetrating violence just for the sake of violence. And, as with most such people who live by the sword, his behavior eventually became erratic and irrational to the point that he was a liability to the organized crime structure as a whole. He was getting too much press because of his personal behavior, threatening the delicate balance that existed (and must exist) between organized crime, politics, police and the public.

So, Anastasia’s associates–realizing that his erratic behavior was bringing too much attention to organized crime activities, decided he had to go for the sake of the ‘greater good’ and Anastasia was murdered as he sat in a barber chair in Manhattan.

Likewise with Netanyahu–his constant bellowing for war against Iran is making it more and more difficult for Jewish interests to counter the various theories swirling around concerning Jewish power and the ability of this cabal to steer the foreign policy decisions of America and other Western countries. Every time he opens his mouth, mob lawyers such as Abe Foxman, Elie Weisel and others find it increasingly difficult to say with a straight face that ‘Jews don’t control Amerca’.

And it is for THIS reason that we see individuals such as Dagan, Yiskin & co coming out in this fashion and labelling Netanyahu a nut. They hope that by doing so he will shut his mouth and allow the situation to cool down a bit and thus an increasingly Jew-wise world to go back to sleep so that this cabal can then get back to the work that it does. 

Haaretz

An embarrassing confrontation broke out on Sunday during a panel discussion at a New York conference, when former Mossad chief Meir Dagan accused Environmental Protection Minister Gilad Erdan of lying, while Erdan replied that Dagan is sabotaging Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s efforts to put a halt to Iran’s nuclear aspirations.

At the conference, sponsored by the Jerusalem Post in New York, the two also exchanged harsh words after Dagan warned Erdan over the so-called “Dagan law,” forbidding former security officials to issue open statements until a certain cooling period wears off.

“As in Germany, you know where you begin but you don’t know where you end,” Dagan told the audience.

The exchange erupted after Dagan was asked about statements made by former head of the Shin Bet security service Yuval Diskin. Diskin criticized Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak on Friday over their bellicose stance on Iran, as well as what he called the premier’s unwillingness to advance peace talks with the Palestinian Authority.

Dagan said that Diskin was his friend, and added that he “spoke his own truth.” “Diskin is a very serious man, a very talented man, he has a lot of experience in countering terrorism,” he said, adding that he “talked about a matter that is close to his heart.” Dagan also dismissed criticism of Diskin for not voicing his opinion to Netanyahu and Barak earlier. According to Dagan, Diskin had done so “in close quarters and on many occasions.”

“I have no doubt that the Israeli Air Force is able to destroy the infrastructure of Iran’s nuclear program – but five minutes later, Israel would find itself involved in a regional war, involving Hezbollah and possibly Syria,” the former Mossad chief said.

Dagan also said that an attack would bolster the support for the Iranian regime as opposed to the sanctions imposed by the international community which have been eroding its public support.

He added that a regional war would lead the superpowers to impose a settlement with the Palestinians on Israel – a settlement which he vehemently opposes.    Erdan replied that “if Diskin thinks things are so dangerous, he should not have stayed in his post for five years and agree to a sixth year. He should have resigned.” Dagan intervened at this point and countered that “I may be impolite, but I prefer the truth be told.”

Erdan then said he would prefer if “Mossad chiefs do not sabotage Netanyahu’s efforts to garner the world’s support against Iran. He also referred to Diskin’s description of Barak and Netanyahu’s “messianic tendencies,” and asked, “Is this how a serious man, as you describe him, speaks?”

Former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, also present at the conference, came out in defense of Dagan and Diskin, saying that they have “contributed much more to the safety of Israel than those who are criticizing them.”

With Dagan and former IDF Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi sitting next to him on the stage, Olmert responded to Erdan’s criticisms while the envionmental protection minister was still on stage too, saying, “These people are not necessarily enemies of Israel. And we have to ask – what has happened that all the leaders of Israel’s security services suddenly think in the same way?”

Olmert went on to ask, “Until they expressed their opinion in public they were brave and admired fighters – and suddenly they are enemies of Israel, suddenly they don’t care about Israel’s security?”

After the panel, Erdan continued to slam Diskin and other senior security officials for attacking the government, saying that they are causing damage to Israel’s security.

“The fact that someone in the security establishment says something doesn’t make him a saint,” Erdan said. “To sabotage the government’s political efforts is to damage the security of the state.”

Erdan continued his attack on former Mossad chief Dagan, saying that “it is unclear how such a man landed such a senior post.” Referring to Dagan calling him a liar, Erdan said that it is a shame that the former Mossad head “employs such low rhetoric.”

Earlier on Sunday, Dagan said that Iran’s leadership is using “smart” diplomacy to advance its nuclear program, and that the Iranian threat is not a “quarrel” between Israel and Iran, but an international issue.

Dagan described President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s regime as “smart” and “a master of diplomacy that heads forward consistently to achieve its nuclear objectives.”

  1. #1 by Naeem on April 30, 2012 - 3:48 pm

    LOL mark i think your explanation is spot on. These babykillers don’t want their crimes to be exposed and BIBI is not helping them. BTW murder Inc was a jewish run killing crew with jewish Louis Buchalter as its head wow these fools have the finger in almost all the pies.

  2. #2 by CK on April 30, 2012 - 5:12 pm

    Looks like a little “good cop/bad cop” going on here. They all want Iran taken down, but they don’t want Israel to catch the flack for it. We need a President with the balls to tell Israel to take a flying leap.

  3. #3 by Amy Aremia on April 30, 2012 - 7:50 pm

    Why can’t Iran, as well as anyother country have weapons “of mass destruction” ???
    Each country must protect itself from outside agression

  4. #4 by SazzyLilSmartAzz on April 30, 2012 - 8:30 pm

    I agree with CK. Dagan and Olmert are both criminals and not suffering from pangs of conscience. They just don’t want the limelight to shine on the racist, illegal state of Is-NOT-Real!

  5. #5 by SEARCHLIGHT on April 30, 2012 - 9:02 pm

    By now we all should have learned, at least the ones that consider itself awaken,.
    that the zionist criminal regime’s agenda is based on lies, expressed by international and domestic PARANOID PSYCHOS THAT HAVE LEARNED THROUGH CENTURIES OF PRACTICE HOW TO PAY GOOD COP BAD COP. IN ORDER TO MAKE THE IGNORANT MOLE PEOPLE BELIVE THAT THEY ARE NOT THE TREATH BUT THAT THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE WITH THEIR LIES AS A NATION, THE FACT IS THAT ISRAEL IS BEEN RUN BY PSYCHOS WITH OUT A CONSTITUTION A FASCIST STATE THAT BECAME A LEACH UNTO A GREAT REPUBLIC, AND IN THE PROCESS, THEY ARE KILLING THE HOST, BUT THEY DON’T CARE AS LONG AS THEY SURVIVE OR SO THEY THINK, THEY HAVE BURNED SO MANY NATIONS THROUGH OUT THEIR EXCISTENCE THAT AMERICA IS THE LAST STRONG HOLD, AND SOME OF THEM ARE BEGINING TO REALIZE THAT BUT OTHER PARANID LEACH WON’T MIND PLAYING THE GAME TILL THE END.THE ENEMY OF THE WORLD IS A BAND OF NON JEWISH CRIMINALS THAT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS ZIONIST AND AS THE CHOSEN PEOPLE BUT THEY ARE NOTHING BUT IMPOSTORS.

  6. #6 by michael mazur on April 30, 2012 - 11:21 pm

    from jnewswire 1dec08: Meanwhile, Knesset Member Gilad Erdan Sunday called for captured Hamas terrorists to be imprisoned in areas that are targeted by their organization in its unrelenting rocket attacks on southern Israel.
    Explaining his idea of putting Arab security prisoners in harms way so as to deter Hamas from firing its Kassam and other missiles at Israel, Erdan said there was “no reason why the terrorists who are imprisoned in Israel should be safe.”.
    **
    At the time i interpreted that as proving that he knew that Israeli operatives were doing the launching of the `bottle` rockets as ALL of the rockets were falling on empty fields, since Hamas would know of the location of any open air prison and so avoid aiming in those directions, if in fact they were launching rockets, which they were not all.

    Israeli psyops at that time would purport to show damage to roads and buildings and cars, but all that did prove to me, on close inspection of the claims, was 100% fakery in each and every case.

  7. #7 by michael mazur on May 1, 2012 - 4:44 am

    Searchlight, you have given me the sense of the concept that Humanity are the Chosen above all of His Creations, for if this is what you meant, i agree with you.

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