Revolt of the Plebs Broadcast Sept 11, 2012



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  1. #1 by Blake on September 12, 2012 - 12:44 am

    How does Israel survive? Truth is it cannot survive simply from its economic & military resources. It is wholly dependent on aid from western powers especially the USA. Consider the facts Israel is the biggest recipient of US military / civilian Aid. It receives over half of the US aid budget yet has only a 1000th of the world population. It solely can use US aid to buy non US produce or use US military aid to buy non US armaments. It solely can can buy weapons from US arms companies without first being vetted by US Dept of Defense. Israel, not Iran is the only nuclear power in ME and has broken more UN resolutions than anybody else.

  2. #2 by Concrete man on September 12, 2012 - 1:03 am

    I think there is no doubt Israel was involved. As Adrian Salbuchi says: America runs the world and [Elite Jewry] Israel runs America. The contextual evidence, voluminous and massive, of Zionist meddling and control of US politics etc., alone, implicates Israel. It could possibly have been Space Aliens, the Irish, perhaps the Icelanders, perhaps more plausibly the Russians did it. But putting aside these propositions, there is almost no doubt (unless we are talking about truly otherworldly forces) that it was The Regime, as my mentor Matt Johnson puts it, that carried this off. The Regime consists of, well, what Salbuchi characterizes it of being, more or less.

    But I think people have really missed the technical aspect of this issue. If you read this book by Judy Wood you will never believe that it was a controlled demolition using thermite, but a much more sophisticated weaponry.

    http://www.drjudywood.com/

    http://www.gaiamtv.com/show/open_minds

    I think we in the REAL 911 Truth community, the gladiators, the Lion Hearts, are making the same mistake that those who refuse to look at the evidence are making. We are assuming what happened and then relying on an expert to explain it to us.

    I know one very prominent 911 Truther that knows every detail about 911 but refuses to read Judy’s book. That is very odd indeed since the evidence presented in her book is irrefutable. Therefore, the phoney 911 Truth movement must ignore the facts and rely on plausible deniability, “I have not seen her book”. Or mischaracterizations or character assassination, straw men and red herrings are thrown out, the usual tactics.

    This same well known 911 Truther refuses to study WWII from a revisionist perspective, constantly blaming the Nazis for WWII even though I have sent dozens of emails to him trying to correct him. So on the one hand a person can call himself a champion of the truth, but it is a very selective case of what truth will be championed, and even then not truly so.

    I think the details of the forensics of 911 DO MATTER. It is not impossible to understand them either, but you have to tune out all the “911 Truth Movement Bullshit” in order to do it.

    We know who the hell did 911, but we weaken our case if it is based on a faulty forensic analysis.

  3. #3 by RSG on September 12, 2012 - 3:43 am

    Finally! Someone is saying what I have been for so long. Quit calling for a new investigation. There has been more than enough of that. It’s time for indictments – prison with no bail. Arrests need to be made. question later. Also, i am so sick of the arguments about what method took the buildings down. I don’t care if Richard Gage is right or Judy Wood. The government and media lied, high treason was committed, and criminals need to be brought to justice. Pronto!

  4. #4 by HD on September 12, 2012 - 4:27 am

    This is a fantastic presentation! Keith, Dr Kendrick and Mark were excellent and thank you!

  5. #5 by Hamid on September 12, 2012 - 4:38 am

    On Kendrick’s mention of being suspended from dentaltown for “anti-Semitism”, I like to respond pointing out how virulently anti-Semitic the War On Terror Hoax is – with a credible link demonstrating that Arabs are (authentic!!) Semites. Prolly best to leave the “Kazars aren’t Semites” thing untouched- it’s a tar baby, and doesn’t matter sufficiently in 9/11 discussions, so just side step it & stay on track. Alternatively you can just link to “13th Tribe” text,

    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm
    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trib01.htm#The%20Thirteenth%20Tribe

    but don’t get sidetracked by that ^, just link and move on with 911 Truth.

    Then go on as a philo-Semite, who’s defending them from the gov/media’s slanderous Official 9/11 Conspiracy Theory, and “holocausting” them based on said slanderous lies.

  6. #6 by Concrete man on September 12, 2012 - 6:41 am

    RSG,
    This is some kind of sloppy logic you got going there (very Amerikan). Never mind the EVIDENCE, just throw them (someone, anyone) in jail. “I don’t care” about evidence. How can you throw someone in jail without evidence? How do you do it without a proper investigation? Of course, I agree, no such investigation will ever come in the present paradigm, and I also agree for practical purposes we know the official story is false.
    Cc man

  7. #7 by Ingrid B on September 12, 2012 - 3:13 pm

    I agree with Keith, I want the Jews to leave Palestine..
    I`m glad that Keith mentioned all those who have died, been maimed, or displaced, as a result of 9/11..
    I believe the evidence from ground zero was shipped to China, why China? and what was done with it..
    I`m glad people are still asking questions re. 9/11, demanding answers.. besides those working in the towers, who lost their lives, many responders also lost their lives, and the families and loved ones of all who died, on 9/11 and since then, really need to know the truth.. whether or not they accept it, is up to them..
    Looking forward to more “flushing out”..
    Recieved an e-mail from Lasha Darkmoon, with an article by Paul Craig Roberts, with the title, “9/11, whodunnit?”, am looking forward to reading it, and will send it on to MG, if the article isn`t posted here on TUT..
    Thanks guys, for the dissection of the huge gorilla.. and yes, Keith, oaks from little acorns grow..

  8. #8 by Viper on September 12, 2012 - 7:08 pm

    Listening now, thanks Keith!

  9. #9 by Michael Langston on September 12, 2012 - 8:44 pm

    Let’s all recall what Dr. Kendrick said in regard to the “evidence” and what constitutes credible evidence. He said clearly in this interview, and he is one hundred percent correct, that the so-called evidence presented by Judy Wood is “unproven” and “hypothetical” at best. So why intentionally bring up the subject of Judy Wood, link to her site, and make that the focus of our discussion? What we should be emphasizing and talking most about is the overriding issue of Israeli and Jewish involvement. That’s what’s important. Anything else is simply a distraction.

  10. #10 by Concrete man on September 12, 2012 - 11:18 pm

    Dr. Kendrick STATES HE HAS NOT READ AND HAS NO INTENTION TO READ Judy Wood’s book, but then deconstructs her hypothesis, as he calls it, because she does not prove it. How does he know if he has not read her book, if only based on her interviews? This is absurd. He is also incorrect in much of his analysis about her hypothesis, but never let a little ignorance get in the way of a good thing. Keep this man away from my teeth!!!

  11. #11 by Concrete man on September 12, 2012 - 11:20 pm

    That’s right Michael, examining the forensic evidence is “distraction” and we should just throw all the Jewi in jail, immediately! So much for the illogical and unprincipled morons in the “Patriot movement” (bowel movement).

  12. #12 by Concrete man on September 12, 2012 - 11:27 pm

    Also, why was it necessary for Keith to snicker at Judy Wood as if she is not a real “doctor”? That was cheap. She has a PhD which technically makes her a “doctor” that is all. Keith makes cheap shots (and I bet he has also not read her book) and Kendrick refuses to examine the evidence, but has nice teeth. Great work guys.

  13. #13 by RSG on September 13, 2012 - 2:47 am

    Concrete man: The investigations done by people such as Richard Gage and his group, Judy Wood, Sofia Smallstorm, David Ray Griffin, the Missing LInks producer, and many others are sufficient to get indictments. As Dr. Kendrick said, circumstantial evidence is enough to convict in many cases, but there is much more than circumstantial evidence in this case. The people have done the investigation, and it needs to be acted on. Dr. Kendrick said what i have been saying for a long time: Whether thermite, thermate, Nukes, conventional explosives or advanced technology such as directed energy – or all of the above – was used to take the towers down is unimportant. The important thing is to stop the people who have the power, money and motive to perpetrate these crimes, by convening a grand jury or an international tribunal. It’s been eleven long years – let’s get the wheels of justice rolling!

  14. #14 by Concrete man on September 13, 2012 - 7:21 am

    RSG: I agree that it is important to move this forward, absolutely. I disagree, most emphatically, that accepting faulty scientific analysis is unimportant, not only as a matter of principle but also as a practical matter.

    But let’s forget about all this, none of this ain’t gonna happen because JewAssA is so corrupt that no court in the land, which is controlled by the Jews, will convict their tribal members. Something along the lines of what Hitler attempted, to extricate his country of Jewish influence, is what is needed, but as we all know the cultural insidious roots are deep and most Amerikans are too stupid to understand or care.

    To get back to Dr. Kendrick, the tooth man, he gave some sort of half hearted thirty second dismissal of Judy Wood’s thesis, a 500 page book, and threw out some fancy science terms which he did not explain. This seems to have been done to impress listeners of his intelligence (superior as a dentist of Judy Wood who is a PhD in engineering science) and assure them it is not worth wasting their time to examine her evidence. I have read up to 125 pages in the book and it is BY FAR THE BEST presentation of evidence so far, and obliterates all of the theories of Gage et al.

    That is not to say the 911 Truth Movement has not done good, they have all proven beyond a doubt that the Official Story is absolutely false. But beyond that there is something fishy going on here.

    Thanks.

  15. #15 by Michael Langston on September 13, 2012 - 11:51 pm

    Was there molten metal and evidence of previously molten metal found in the remains of Building 7 and the towers?

  16. #16 by dachsielady on September 14, 2012 - 3:46 pm

    I have been a little slow in getting to listening to this radio show. I have listened to half so far. I like Dr. Kendrick’s style very much. He is intelligent, balanced, and what we used to term “level headed.” The interview is very good but my opinion about Dr. Kendrick is being held in abeyance for now. He may be person who is sincerely intentioned but who is also mislead by the extremely SOHISTICATED Zionist controllers. I am beginning to see that some very brave and very brilliant persons seeking 9-11 truth can even been taken in by these sophisticates in mind control that are the Zionist / U S intelligence apparatus.

    I must commend Mark Gleen on his very insightful astute comments, of which I have only listened to half so far. Mark pointed out that this whole “Christian Zionism” psyop was born over 60 years ago, at least, and that what happened in the 1960s USA cultural meltdown was planned by the same people who created USA Christian Zionism and who planned and executed 9-11. (Also, remember that 9-11 was a caper that took at least 30 years in its planning.)

    However, I went to Dr. Kendrick’s site and watched the Chandler North Twin Tower destruction in progress video and I raise some questions. Chandler I guess from the credits at the beginning is someone who is associated with Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth. Also the video source, that is, where did they get this video being analyzed. From whenceth did it cometh? That is important. So far AE922Truth has about 99 percent avoided responding to any destruction-in-progress video, as has their mentor and founder, Dr. Steven Jones.

    Dr. Kendrick pushes the words “collapse” and folks, try looking that one up in your Funk and Wagnalls. The word itself is disinfo as collapse implies “down” or “fall down” or gravity falling down.

    Also, Dr. Kendrick pushes the term “controlled demolition” which is a term that is vague but is usually understood to be a demolition method employing standard demolition “explosives” or physical chemical agents for the destruction and which explosives are places at strategic places throughout the building. So Dr. Kendrick is presupposing many big ideas, not only by his choice of words and phrases, but by other concepts he is pushing. For example, he is pushing the idea that the North WTC Tower was destroyed in the exact same way as Building 7, the only difference being that the explosive charges for the North Tower were detonated from the top down whereas WTC 7 it was in the conventional way from the bottom up.

    I have said it before and I will say it again, Dr. Steven Jones and Mr. Richard Gage was government issue psyops agents who have not one freakin thing to do with 9-11 truth and justice. Jones was in on the psyop from the very beginning but came on the public scene only in about late 2005. He was chosen to be the public psyop “9-11 truth hard-science leader” because of his previous success in working for our shadow military industrial complex operatives in sabotaging and working a psyop on the Pons and Fleishman cold fusion research.

    The earliest 9-11 “thuth” groups online were Jew-owned and operated 911truth.org and 911blogger.com. Both of these groups from the get-go in true NAZI fashion always enforced the Steven Jones “explosive nanothermite” garbage. They kicked you off their sites if you suggested that, as Dr. James Fetzer was saying, all alternative hypotheses had to be investigated in order to adhere to the true scientific process. 911Blogger ridiculed Dr. Fetzer in true Zionist terrorist way.

    I have always been concerned that there is a right way and a wrong way to expose Zionist / Israeli / Jewish connections to 9-11. I see that here and other sites and with other people, the exposure is happening often in the wrong way. I tell you from whatever truth I have in me, that the Zionists are masters at mind control and have created and controlled this 9-11 myth operation throughout including up to this present day. The Zionists WANT US TO EXPOSE THEM IN THE WRONG WAY. They have engineered us doing that too.

    Just be careful. I pray for all who really do want to expose the Zionists connections to 9-11 and want to do it in the right way.

    Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!

  17. #17 by Michael Langston on September 14, 2012 - 7:50 pm

    There are two types of disinformation that those of us in the “9/11 truth movement” should be continually on the lookout for:

    1) Denial and coverup of Jewish and Israeli involvement.

    2) Substitution of fake, pseudo-scientific disinformation for real, legitimate scientific evidence.

    Hint: Steven Jones and Richard Gage are not purveyors of pseudo-science.

  18. #18 by dachsielady on September 14, 2012 - 9:30 pm

    “There are two types of disinformation that those of us in the “9/11 truth movement” should be continually on the lookout for:

    1) Denial and coverup of Jewish and Israeli involvement.

    2) Substitution of fake, pseudo-scientific disinformation for real, legitimate scientific evidence.

    Hint: Steven Jones and Richard Gage are not purveyors of pseudo-science. ”

    I have been actively searching for 9-11 truth since 9-11-01, but I have never liked nor have I ever considered myself in the “9/11 truth movement” what ever that collective is.

    Dr. Jones and Mr. Gage are guilty on both counts 1 and 2 as listed.

    Nanothermite is NOT an “explosive” and both of those people have said that on many occasions and their peer reviewed scientific article in the Bentham journal is not much about science at all and you can real about that all over the web. Both of those people are employed by the brotherhood of darkness.

  19. #19 by Michael Langston on September 15, 2012 - 10:44 pm

    One of the most significant, if not THE most significant pieces of forensic evidence regarding 9/11 is something that has been known for a very long time: the presence of molten metal and evidence of previously molten metal (molten IRON specifically, NOT aluminum) in the remains of the three buildings that “collapsed” on that day. This is the 9/11 “smoking gun.”

    Why is this so significant? Because it proves beyond any doubt that the official explanation of plane impacts and resulting jet fuel and office fires could not possibly account for such an event for this simple reason: Jet fuel and typical fires in burning buildings cannot produce temperatures high enough to create this molten metal, and “Muslim hijackers” flying planes into the buildings cannot possibly explain what truly happened.

    So when a government official from NIST, for example, denies the existence of this molten metal, he is almost certainly promoting disinformation. And when someone such as Judy Wood in the so-called “9-11 truth movement” also denies the existence of this molten metal, such an individual is almost certainly promoting 9/11 disinformation as well.

  20. #20 by dachsielady on September 16, 2012 - 12:05 pm

    We have little or nothing that would meet the true definition of “forensic evidence.” There was no true forensic investigation of the crime scene of 9-11.
    I am quite familiar with the history of what “has been known” about “molten metal” in the remains at “Ground Zero.” (One might research Dr. Steven Jones’ funny business regarding this subject presentation in his first online-only “research paper” on this matter.)

    “proves beyond any doubt that the official explanation of plane impacts and resulting jet fuel and office fires could not possibly account for such an event for this simple reason:…”
    So what else is new? Those of us who have been searching for 9-11 truth since 9-11-01 have known that the official explanation was a joke from the beginning. There are at least ten other major facts /observations /whatever… that prove the official explanation is a joke and none of those facts have anything to do with Dr. Steven Jones’ “molten iron” and “iron spherules” hypothesis. It is most telling that Dr. Steven Jones and his spin-off groupies such as Mr. Richard Gage’s group of architects and engineers, held on to as long as they could the presupposition that real planes and real Muslim hijackers were the cause of what happened at the buildings of the World Trade Center. In fact, if one has watched these people and groups’ claims over the years evolve, one can even make a strong argument that they still promote the underlying assumption that real big Boeings with real Muslim hijackers were involved. Now, after five long years, the Jones / Gage gang has switched their followers to “Ridiculous Version II”, as set forth by Dr. Morgan Reynolds.

    I do not recall anyone in this Ugly Truth thread denying the existence of “molten iron” or that being the subject of discussion here, but I guess it is time to change the subject. Just for the record, there are other quite plausible explanations for the existence of “molten iron” including the use of mini-nukes. (I personally have never belonged to something called the “9-11 truth movement” and I do not know what is truth and what is deliberately placed falsehood as far as what was “observed” at Ground Zero.) I know that one of the recent major themes of the Jones / Gage gang is the harping on the “molten iron” and “iron spherules” present after the event. They do this for the subtle purpose of suggesting that “thermate” or “nanothermite” is the only substance that adequately explains the “molten iron.”
    (I have observed many unscientific misdirections since Dr. Steven Jones came late on the “truth” scene in 2005. They have and still are successfully “nanothermiting” the concepts of “science” and “truth.”)
    I do not believe much time or effort should be spent on exactly how the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed. We all agree they were definitely not destroyed as we were told by our loving government. The event of 9-11 was a sophisticated crafting by those of the Jewish revolutionary spirit and was in the making for at least 30 years. There is so much falsity engineered into 9-11, we have no way of finding much in the way of true “evidence.”

    If there were no planes,
    Then there were no passengers.
    If there were no passengers,
    Then there were no hijackers.
    If there were no hijackers
    Then there were no Islamic fundamentalists.
    If there were no Islamic fundamentalists,
    Then the whole “war on terror” has been a complete charade.

    Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!

  21. #21 by lolathecur on September 20, 2012 - 11:12 am

    in order to understand the truth in the scripture you must look up and understand the meanings of these words. they will be found in Strongs bible dictionary with corresponding verses where they are used. get to studying now! here are the words: Yahakobe, Yhuwdiy, Yehoodawee, Ioudaismos, Idudaios, Dath, Yehhodeeth, Yahad. do not let liars decieve you..please consider this very important subject for future discussions on shows. Thank you jeff turner

  22. #22 by Ross on September 23, 2012 - 12:18 am

    @dachsielady “…this whole “Christian Zionism” psyop was born over 60 years ago, at least, and that what happened in the 1960s USA cultural meltdown was planned by the same people who created USA Christian Zionism…”

    You can go back further than that to 17th century England. The puritan movement was the same thing, and Cromwell’s civil war was paid for by ‘financiers’ from Holland. The pilgrim fathers went on to become the poison seed in the US which much later spawned the zio-christianity you refer to. These things are planned over centuries, if not millennia. Under Cromwell jews were quietly allowed back into England (they had been expelled in 1290 after bringing the country to the brink of economic ruin with their usury), and after a brief restoration of the Stuart line (Charles II) a gay protestant Dutch aristocrat known as William of Orange, backed by the same Amsterdam ‘bankers’ was sent to England with an army and the Pope’s blessing to install himself as king. The exclusion of jews was officially ended, and in 1694 the Bank of England, the template for all subsequent usurious central banks, was established.

  23. #23 by Ross on September 23, 2012 - 12:39 am

    A couple of comments on the towers. You are all probably familiar with the Sherlock Holmes dictum: “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth.” You may also be familiar with Newton’s Third Law of Motion: ” For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction”. Therefore the force with which a plane strikes a building will be the same as the force with which the building strikes that plane. It would crumple on the outside like an empty soda can fired against a brick wall, it certainly would not smoothly pass through the exterior with zero deceleration i.e. the building offered the same resistance as the air. Impossible. Therefore we have to consider the improbable, that there was no plane.
    The second thing is that if the primary agent was thermite or something similar it would have to have been placed everywhere to create that even pulverisation. We didn’t see the core and external frame disappear while the floors crashed down between them, it all just went up in a cloud of dust. Whatever energy source was applied was applied universally to the whole building. Regarding the (lack of) rubble, one thing I have not seen mentioned anywhere is the contents. There were hundreds of offices, there would have been thousands of filing cabinets, safes, furniture. hand basins, toilets and so on, none of which made it to the ground. How can a safe just disappear? The only thing that survived it seems is paper, and that is not consistent with the presence of tremendous heat.

  24. #24 by Carolyn Hamlett on September 25, 2012 - 5:37 pm

    While you people are busy arguing about how 911 was pulled off, the evidence of WHO did it and WHY is totally being ignored. Why not bring out all the massive evidence of Jewish connections and that of Israel to 911?

    Find out who did it. Then, find out FROM THEM how they pulled it off.
    SO SIMPLE! … MY GOD!

  25. #25 by lolathecur on September 25, 2012 - 8:25 pm

    Thank you for the comment caroline. My thoughts exactly

  26. #26 by dachsielady on September 26, 2012 - 1:45 am

    It is proper order to first consider what the “it” is of “Who did it.” We have the “it” of the official story, which upon careful examination has been proven in many many ways to be an “it” that cannot possibly be true. So then we have the reality that a big big lie event was perpetrated. We do not know how many people were killed. It could have a 350. It could have been 3000. We have zero evidence and proof of how many deaths. We do know that to peddle enforce a lie of this magnitude required the top level people of our military, our intelligence, and our executive government administration, as well as our totally controlled mainstream media. Not only was this event crafted over a 20 or thirty year period, it was crafted using all of the sophisticated mass mind control techniques of our shadow government. Also the “9-11 truth movement” was totally controlled from the beginning so as to keep everyone focused on narrow dead-end subjects so as not to focus on what the real “it” consisted of. The 9-11 truth movement is still brilliantly and totally controlled to this day, and I fear some of our best researchers and best Christian leaders and best journalists may be controlled and not even know it.

    Only when there is free and open and reasonable discussion of all ideas is it possible to find truth. We have formulated a pretty clear picture at this point of the “it” that could not possibly have happened. Now that we have done that and provided a myriad of proofs of why the official “it” is a Satanic lie, we can have a much better idea of the “Who” of “Who did it.” We can look at what has transpired in the way of our military actions and our military maneuverings for the near future and we can form a much clearer picture of “why” the “who” did “it.”

    It does not help our case to strictly focus on the Who unless we first know what the “it” could and could not have been. Everything must be based on the most reasonable plausible explanations available to us. Not just saying who did it without having that important background and basis only makes us look like fools. And there are sophisticated manipulators who want that condition of us looking like fools and they work very hard to maneuver us into that position.

  27. #27 by Carolyn Hamlett on September 26, 2012 - 6:18 pm

    @ dachsielady:
    J W not only leaves out key evidence, she DENIES it. She denies the key evidence such as the fact that the basement of the north tower WAS damaged (ever heard of William Rodriquez?) and there WAS molten steel, see the videos. Trust a liar? Go ahead. Support a liar? Why?

    A liar is a CON. A liar tells a lie to CON you, NOT lead you to the truth.

    If you, dachsielady stand for the truth, then why do you continue to support a blatant liar?

    In a murder case, when you have the evidence to convict the criminal, only the criminal wants that evidence ignored.

  28. #28 by Ross on September 27, 2012 - 1:14 pm

    @Carolyn Hamlett
    But we know who did it, at least in general terms. Netanyahu and his pal Silverstein, Cheney in the bunker, the hundreds of Mossad agents running around, including some to “record the event”, others in vans full of explosives etc. etc. The problem is the State has been so infiltrated and corroded from within that there is nothing left to prosecute the perpetrators. The lunatics have indeed taken over the asylum.
    How they did it remains moot, so the debate still rages even if most of us have realised that a labyrinth of lies, half-lies and half-truths has skilfully been constructed to contain the debate and ultimately frustrate an unequivocal answer.

  29. #29 by dachsielady on September 27, 2012 - 7:39 pm

    Reply to …
    #27 by Carolyn Hamlett on September 26, 2012 – 6:18 pm

    “@ dachsielady:
    J W not only leaves out key evidence, she DENIES it. She denies the key evidence such as the fact that the basement of the north tower WAS damaged (ever heard of William Rodriquez?) and there WAS molten steel, see the videos. Trust a liar? Go ahead. Support a liar? Why?

    A liar is a CON. A liar tells a lie to CON you, NOT lead you to the truth.

    If you, dachsielady stand for the truth, then why do you continue to support a blatant liar? ”

    ___

    I have said at least three times in this thread that I no NOT one hundred percent support all that Dr. Wood says. I have also tried to convey that I am pretty much an agnostic when it comes to knowing what happened at and to the World Trade Center buildings. I have read the ideas of all researchers and have tried to hold on to what appears to be accurate. Again, we have almost nothing in the way of what is positively verified as true “data” and almost nothing that meets any legal or scientific defintion of the word “evidence.” We can study and see that the official story is not what happened. We have never proven, and most likely never will prove, what actually did happen. Again, I think it is good to explore what happened at the WTC, but as far as actually proving something about 9-11, I think the issue of “no planes” (which is defined as no Boeing commercial airliners crashing at the four desginated sites. Real planes were employed to augment the “official story” in ancilary ways, however.) has been the most strongly proven aspect of 9-11 truth studies so far.

    I think the issue of “explosions” in the basements of the Twin Towers is extremely important. Yes, Dr. Wood does say she has no “evidence” for “explosions in the basements.” I am well familiar with Willie Rodriquez and what he told us about explosions in the basements, and indeed, what he relates certainly seems true to me. Dr. Fetzer opines, that yes, there were explosions in the basements. They were not strong enough to make the slurry wall (or “the bathtub”) crack open so that the Hudsen river came flooding all of lower Manhattan. There is an interesting article on his original website about seismic readings at Columbia that show that the basement explosions happened 14 and17 seconds before the alleged plane crashes were said to occur. (That may have been a bit of a screw-up by the plotters who probably meant for the explosions to happen at the exact same time of the faked plane impacts.) Dr. Fetzer “hypothesizes” that the explosions were meant to be just strong enough to completely drain the buildings sprinkler systems. That way, they could make it appear with their faked videos that the planes entered all the way inside the each tower and then blew up inside causing huge unmanageable fires, fires which were to be said in the official story to have been responsible for the meltting of the main core steel beams of the buildings.

    Again, I have tried to be open to reading everything. What one researcher regards as “key evidence” may be interpreted completely differently interpreted by another researcher, and really, we do not have any real strong “evidence” or even “data”. There was video and photographic fakery which has not been fully investigated yet.

    I am reluctant to call any researcher a “liar” when we are dealing with one big huge collosal, multi-layered, lie event that was 9-11, crafted by the most sophisticated evil manipulators in this world.
    There are researchers that I am beginning to think may be deliberately misleading us with misinformation and or disinformation, but can I prove they are a “liar”? No, I cannot because the whole event of 9-11 is too deeply a big lie itself. Yes, it is wrong to deliberately not address certain data and say why you accept or deny it, and yes it is wrong to “fix the intelligence around the policy” or just accept and interpret things that fit in with ones own “theory. That is not science, and that certainly is not truth.

    I am still looking for truth about 9-11 and have been since 9-11-01. I find that almost all 9-11 researchers that I have some respect for have a problem, to some extent, of allowing for open inquiry and discussion on the forums they manage. That so works agains everything they say they stand for.

    “and the light shines on in the darkness and darkness could not overcome it.”

    John 1:5

  30. #30 by Michael Langston on September 28, 2012 - 12:37 am

    What we see in the photograph of the South Tower collapse discussed in this interview is smoke from the North Tower being blown in a southerly direction over the collapsing South Tower. Recall that it was the South Tower which collapsed first, and at the time of this first collapse, the North Tower was still standing and emitting black smoke from the oxygen-starved fires.

    Although when viewed from a southerly perspective, it misleadingly APPEARS that this smoke might be debris from the South Tower being dispersed upward into the upper atmosphere (as claimed by Judy Wood), nothing could be further from the truth. The smoke that we see in this photograph is NOT debris from the South Tower moving upward as Judy Wood falsely claims.

    This is an extremely DECEPTIVE photograph that she employs to lend false support to her narrative and is the primary photograph that she still uses to this day on her website. In my opinion, what we have here with Judy Wood is deliberately contrived DISINFORMATION that was conceived for the purpose of dividing, discrediting, and ultimately destroying the 9/11 truth movement.

    Note, for example, how one of the very first things she says in this interview is to deny the existence of molten metal at the World Trade Center site, one of our most important, if not THE most important pieces of scientific evidence that invalidates the official 9/11 story. Recall that a spokesman from the government agency NIST also denied the existence of this molten metal. This, in itself, is extremely suspicious because this is precisely what one would expect a 9/11 disinformation operative to do: to attempt to discredit our most important evidence.

    Note again how she is falsely attempting to portray what is OBVIOUSLY smoke from the North Tower flowing OVER the South Tower collapse as debris from the South Tower mysteriously going “up” into the upper atmosphere. She calls this her “favorite picture” and admits in this interview that she is using this highly misleading and deceptive photograph to emphasize that the dust is going “up” when it is doing nothing of the sort. It’s not even coming from the tower she’s referring to. It’s SMOKE from the OTHER tower flowing OVER the collapse, which is blatantly obvious for anyone to see, anyone who has critical thinking skills and is intellectually honest, that is.

    If this photograph allegedly showing debris from the South Tower being dispersed upward into the upper atmosphere was exposed as a fraud over FIVE years ago, why does it remain on Judy Wood’s website to this very day, and why should someone who has been proven to engage in such dishonest, deceitful, and deceptive tactics continue to receive such widespread acclaim and such fervent support? Inquiring minds would like to know.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-558096240694803017

    http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/b/interview-judy-wood-at-national-press-club-regarding-the-use-of-directed-energy-beam-in-the-demolition-of-the-wtc-by-dr-gregory-jenkins.pdf

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