lewrockwell.com
“I don’t see enough evidence to think Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. This is more of a tragic event turned into political opportunity than it is a staged event.
- Was there investigative bungling and the sensationalist media reporting unverified stories? Yes.
- Was there confusion and were facts lost and gained in that confusion? Yes.
- Are there people, even witnesses, looking for their 30 seconds in the spotlight? Yes.
- Are there individuals and institutions using and shaping this event for their own political agendas? Yes,and we must keep a very watchful eye on those institutions to keep them from twisting the facts of this event.
Sadly, everything I mentioned above can, when taken out of context, make one think manipulation is afoot.
Most chaotic events can come across that way. In examining the event, I don’t see government hands at work mainly because they would have covered their tracks better. We can’t expect them to pull off elaborately planned hoaxes while at the same time leaving behind so many easy “smoking guns” for us to find.
It took years for independent investigators to uncover JFK. It took years for us to begin scratching out the truth about 9/11. Those of us who study real history, not state sanctioned history, can very easily become just as close minded and biased for conspiracy as those who stand in our way and refuse to accept the truth about our government and the people running it.
It’s very easy to fall into that trap, especially when knowing how much of our history and world events are not what they appear to be. So please, do not immediately jump up and yell “Fire!” just because someone makes a Youtube video. Research, research, research. You only hurt our cause by promoting false conspiracies and crackpot agendas.
Much like the Birther conspiracy, I am starting to think that a lot of the so called “evidence” of conspiracy coming out about Sandy Hook is designed and fabricated to make us “conspiracy theorists”, us truth seekers, look foolish. Why? So that when good people argue against the destruction of our Second Amendment they can easily be painted with the “crackpot” brush.
#1 by Paulo Panigale on January 22, 2013 - 4:54 pm
When will people get back to what really needs to be focused on? 9-11. 9-11 24/7. Nothing else is as serious or offers as much facts and evidence. 9-11. Everything else is minor bullshit.
Don’t be distracted by anything other than 9-11.
#2 by T on January 22, 2013 - 4:54 pm
Thank you Governor, for the very timely reminder and keeping the correct focus.
#3 by tsunami on January 22, 2013 - 5:07 pm
It wasn’t a staged event, it was a managed media opportunity, to mess with our heads as usual.
#4 by nooralhaqiqa on January 22, 2013 - 5:31 pm
If you look at an overhead view of Sandy Hook, you will see, according to professional actors, that the emergency vehicles are parked just in perfect alignment as if it were a movie set. The folks standing around… just like on a set. As one said, they all pulled in tight for a great aerial view. Who? Why? They are just out for yer guns boys n girls. Mark is right, these atrocities will continue.
BTW a few miles away there was … at the time as Sandy Hook, a planned training event for a school massacre drill going on.
Because of his close association with AJones and some of his misleading on his shows, I am sad to say I look at Jesse with a slightly jaundiced view where once he was a hero. This message from him I can believe.
#5 by Bill on January 22, 2013 - 5:44 pm
At present time, we have NO Video, No photos of dead bodies, No real tears, and acotrs being interviewed including Jew Gene Rosen who does his act IN SPANISH!!
I love the ‘coroner’ talking about his unmarked vehicles and ‘very good camera men’ controlling the situation, while laughing.
Not to mention all the other anomalies like the FEMA/DHS drills going on at the firehouse the same day, and scheduled for that day, no real tears from any parents… lol . list goes on..
Watch Video at 4 minutes in- multiple suspects filmed running From the school-From Police, and Into the woods, albeit dressed in black & camo, 1 later ID’d as a SWAT member.
For Mr. Tellawi
On TIME STAMPED GOOGLE CHARITY DAYS BEFORE, Spotted on page 34 of Google.
We have been told that Google techs claim this as an error, that requires a simple fix.. however it requires several weeks of bug fixing..
No strange coincidences at all.
Just watch Anderson Cooper and the Mainstream media and get the full report.
–ed note–Bill for the love of God will you PLEASE MOVE ON. Even Jesse Ventura sees that this is lunacy and is distancing himself from it. All that you are achieving in this is to further paint the ENTIRE 911 MOVEMENT as a bunch of WHACKOS.
#6 by Mark R. Elsis | Lovearth.net on January 22, 2013 - 6:13 pm
Salon.com Attacks Jeff Rense And Jay Weidner by Jon Rappoport https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/01/22/salon-com-attacks-jeff-rense-and-jay-weidner
#7 by tsunami on January 22, 2013 - 6:24 pm
Here’s O’bama!
http://news.ca.msn.com/barack-obamas-career-in-pictures-8
#8 by Lee on January 22, 2013 - 7:11 pm
Apparently, Ventura is just another shill. They got to him by coercion, money, and possibly death threats. His Conspiracy TV series were allowed to give the audience a sense of hope and justice. If it is on Zionist controlled TV, you know it has to be compromised. So many people that believed in for truth seekers are being betrayed. The only hope is faith in our God and in ourselves.
Perhaps, that is the lesson we all need to learn?
ed note–you forgot to mention the other possibility here Lee–
That Ventura is right.
#9 by linda ashenbach on January 22, 2013 - 7:29 pm
Dr. Judy Wood is the brave woman who accurately exposes 911, http://www.drjudywood.com
#10 by annebeck58 on January 22, 2013 - 7:38 pm
I am in complete dismay that people are still using these posts to go off the cliff. When are you all going to get it? No, this was not a staged event. Yes, the media and others WILL use us (any of us) to make all of us appear to be crackpots.
I agree with Jesse Ventura and I think he made some excellent points about certain factionswithin our society USING some of us in changing the tune in order to not sing out about what’s really important and still going on, which includes the cover-up of 9/11, as well as the murders of children, all over the world, at OUR hands.
I mean; the, “proof”, that Sandy Hook is all a lie is simply not there. There have been absolutely no facts presented that are true. Yet I see people, even here, still raging on about the most silly minutia, I want to reach through the computer screen and throttle them.
I mean; WAKE UP! You are making us all appear to be LOONS.
Keep your eyes diverted toward something that is nothing and you will help others to ignore what they should be seeing.
#11 by annebeck58 on January 22, 2013 - 7:47 pm
And, Bill; if you lost a child due to something such as this, would YOU actually post photographs of your dead child online? Who, in this country, photographs their own children, DEAD? Nobody I know would do that. (well, I did know one very young mother whose child was born, dead, and she did take one picture because she’d never seen the child, alive, either– BUT..) Nobody I know would allow anyone else to photograph their deceased children or child and post it, online or in a newspaper, or ANYWHERE!! –EVER!
Are you kidding me with this??
= if only you were…
Have you never lost a family member? I have. Two of my brothers and one of my sisters is dead. My grandmother also died in the nineties.. I do not have, nor would I want to have, photographs of even ONE of them, and yes; I was born and raised in Connecticut. I have never known anyone from Connecticut to photograph his or her dead loved one(s) and post them, at ALL. It is just NOT something we do in Connecticut, or even in American society, as far as I know.
Yeesh!!
Please think about what you are requiring of grieving family members. Think; would you do this?
#12 by Steven on January 22, 2013 - 7:54 pm
Unfortunately we live in a world where truth, witnesses and physical evidence does not always matter to joe six pack and it is easily discredited by the government, media and interested individuals through the use of the term,” conspiracy theory.”
In my view that wicked and profane term ought to be outlawed as an obstruction of justice and honest inquiry. If indeed there is a lack of direct evidence in the Sandy Hook case could it be that the offenders are getting better at covering their tracks to ensure plausible deniability if indeed it was more than a mass murder suicide?
As for 911 the truth will never be officially accepted and acted on with out a total regime change in the United States of America. As long as the powers that be rule ,justice will not be done no matter what. So Mark and the rest of your community if you want justice and if you want the truth to be accepted as such the world of government, secret societies, finance and the media as you know it has got to go. It is all or nothing. You can not get good fruit from a diseased tree. Plant a new tree instead or if you like , start over from scratch to get things right.
#13 by bostonblah on January 22, 2013 - 8:22 pm
“–ed note–Bill for the love of God will you PLEASE MOVE ON. Even Jesse Ventura sees that this is lunacy and is distancing himself from it. All that you are achieving in this is to further paint the ENTIRE 911 MOVEMENT as a bunch of WHACKOS.”
marc you dont think you are helping by giving credibility to the likes of jesse ventura?
this guy is tightly linked to the known zionist shill alex jones ,jones does his show, and does the jones show,
i find it more than ironic you are using ventura as a source
a man who does shows with the likes of david ike,alex jones ,and all sorts of real kooks
have you seen hos show lately?
its all about aliens , psychotronic mind control weapons and real tin foil hat wearers ,literally
jesse ventura is allowed on the JMSM , and CNN piers morgan
jesse venturas show is the real attempt to discredit the movement and to make us look ridiculous and is also used to get people introduced to alex jones
if anyone make us look ridiculous its jesse ventura ,with his ridiculous show ,staged scripted over dramatized nonsense,
anyone who is associated with the likes of CNN and main stream media is a shill and not to be trusted to begin with
nevermind someone who is doing a show that is so over the top ridiculous dramatized nonsense
if anyone makes us look ridiculous its jesse ventura and those who try to make him out as a credible source , not people asking legit questions about sandy hook
#14 by Frank on January 22, 2013 - 8:54 pm
From web site “The VigilantCitizen”
Some of the children who survived the Sandy Hook school shooting recorded a version of Judy Garland’s song Over the Rainbow, one month after the massacre. In one big media event, these young children were brought to a recording studio and made to record the song, all under the never-ceasing clicks and flashes of cameras. They then went on to perform the song on Good Morning America. The song is now on sale iTunes and Amazon.
While news sources describe this event as a “emotional healing process”, there are quite a few strange facts about this “event”. The most obvious one is: Why are these children being exposed to the public in such a way? Why are they pushed in mass media spotlight? Why are they in a recording studio with music industry people looking for publicity and made to sing a song that almost “embraces” what happened? Why isn’t this “healing process” happening in private, with friends and family? Why are iTunes and Amazon involved (yes, the song will be sold on these services for “charity” – the new word to justify exploitation)?
#15 by annebeck58 on January 22, 2013 - 9:40 pm
Frank; Why is this healing not taking place in private? I am sure a lot of it is. Is that not why some people are flipping out? No photos of dead children; no public memorial services by the families, etc…? Yes- a lot of people don’t think that’s good enough– not enough public displays of grief, I guess.
I don’t know what people want but everyone should think about when they were youngsters and what they remember and how something like this may have affected them- rather than questioning the motives of teachers, family, and even the children!
And, for the other children at the school, who were not directly targets, I’d wager that their parents, families, and teachers, are happy for them to be doing something positive.
I have no problem with it, whatsoever, and I don’t care what they do with the monies brought in from the music. I’d bet some is to help parents who cannot make it to work or do not have the funds on=hand to cover such unexpected funeral costs, etc… And if people give (GIVE) to the school and.or children, they had best do so with a willing heart and not expect for everything to be accounted for, as that’s not the way to give, in my opinion.
Like I said, it’s never good enough. They cry too much or too little. They grieve in private and that’s not good enough; they break down in public and people rush to judgement.
Again: think- if this were your child, what would you think appropriate? And, I am asking everyone this question; what’s enough and right?
#16 by isaac on January 22, 2013 - 10:11 pm
All I know that if the Mossad did 9/11 and many other false flag operations in London and in the US, they are capable of doing more and more than that.
#17 by annebeck58 on January 22, 2013 - 10:42 pm
Regarding that oft repeated comment about how it’s legitimate to, “ask questions” about this trajedy and others. Sure, it’s okay to ask questions, but I have yet to read a question, as all I’m seeing are accusations that leave no room for reasoned ideas.., OR questions, oddly enough.
#18 by Jean on January 22, 2013 - 11:26 pm
To Annabeck, this is a small ultra wealthy town of very affluent people. If they missed a month of
work they would not be at any financial inconvenience. It is a very small community made up of people in the financial industry.There is sufficient evidence to show that this was a staged event for the purpose of promoting the banning of the AR 15 semi automatic rifle. Referred to as Freedom teeth by our highly intelligent forefathers. Jessie knows that but the quickest way to lose his access to the Television Media is to come out and tell the people exactly what he believes and knows. Yes, this was a staged event, bad actors, look at Lt. Vance, look at the cororner, the smiling
Mr. Parker. They will never make it in Hollywood. But with the media lying for them and those that
are easily duped they can string it out like they have 911 and did with the Kennedy murder.
#19 by Jimmy Boy on January 22, 2013 - 11:51 pm
WOW!… all this back and forth talk on the Sandy Hook incident has got my head spinning.
Here’s something to get focused on: Obama and his murdering drones:
#20 by Gary on January 23, 2013 - 12:27 am
I have no idea what happened at Sandy Hook and the more I read, the more confused I get. I switch from one day thinking it’s a conspiracy and the next changing my mind. However for those who say that no children died, well tell that to the nice old lady in my church who lost a granddaughter and came with photos to share her grief with everyone. She’s not been the same since.- So sad
#21 by annebeck58 on January 23, 2013 - 1:05 am
Gary, thank you.
Please pass on my condolences…
#22 by annebeck58 on January 23, 2013 - 1:09 am
And, Jean; I have spent time in Newtown.
It is a combination of people from all sorts of backgrounds, and when I was there, which was a few years back, MANY homes were empty. They had been forclosed on by the bank(s).
Believe what you will, nobody will change your mind, but this is something I KNOW. Jeez.
#23 by Frank on January 23, 2013 - 2:30 am
annbeck58
The article was not questioning the motives of the teachers, family or the children. It is questioning the motives of the mass media and corporations. In this case, Television, the Music Industry, itunes and Amazon, who are exploiting the children. Ann, please go to the web site “Vigilant Citizen” to learn more on how are children are being manipulated and brain washed by the mass media. I agree with Mark, that the mass media is promoting a culture of violence and confusion, and have a hidden agenda.
#24 by KPRyan on January 23, 2013 - 4:05 am
I too, have spent time in Newtown (my mother was born in the Bronx but at 5 moved with her brother and sisters to live with cousins in Newtown).
I’ve also looked up the ‘make believe’ names of the dead children and their parents. For most it is easy to find property ownership records that match – meaning if there were no dead children and names were all invented then the clandestine agents also forged home ownership records and deeds 5, 7 , and 10 years ago to match the names of the grieving parents?
That being said, I’m having some trouble imagining this boy shooting his mother in the face, destroying his computers, and then driving himself to a grade school and killing as is alleged.
I guess we all have different opinions. I happen to believe the massacre indeed occurred. I just don’t happen to fully believe the advertised ’cause’ of the massacre.
#25 by Doctor J on January 23, 2013 - 4:58 am
you sicken me mark glenn, you and tallawi and piper all ganged up on fetzer… why dont you come on his show alone and debate him toe to toe … you have been exposed, glenn, many many people I respect will never listen to you again, I stopped years ago when you kept pushing lindhauer’s BS … hey glenn, call nurse cox, get her to say why she said nancy lanza worked there, start with that.
ed note–well then it’s a matching set, because people like you sicken me as well.
We never ‘ganged up’ on Fetzer. As I have said repeatedly–I LIKE Jim. He’s been on my program, I’ve been on his, we’ve been on Press TV together. At the same time however, when he spouts a bunch of stuff that won’t hold up to RATIONAL scrutiny, then the public–which happens to include individuals such as Tillawi, Piper sand yours truly, have the right to ask questions.
After all, isn’t that the ‘defense’ that the Sandy Hook ‘Truthers’ are using for their position–’WE’RE JUST ASKING QUESTIONS…WHAT’S WRONG WITH THAT???’
If you are too stupid to grasp this very basic theory, than you really do deserve everyone’s pity.
Furthermore, I never pushed Susan Lindauer’s ‘BS’ as you put it. She was on my program one time several years ago and that was it.
As far as the rest, well, what can I say except don’t let the door hit you too hard on the ass on your way out.
#26 by Ingrid B on January 23, 2013 - 6:46 pm
In the end, it matters not what people think, or what is what. The ptb have ways, of manipulating every situation, to suit their agenda, or purpose..
#27 by johnnyspooner on January 24, 2013 - 9:08 pm
Never tought I’d hear myself saying this but I agree with the WWF wrestler…and Glenn/Piper. This whole Sandy Hook saga has been a spectaculor own-goal. This is threatening to blowup and deligitimise the considerable efforts of many including the people behind TUT.
This is by design I think. I’ve expanded this here
The Sandy “Hoax” Trap – http://theflowerthrowers.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/the-sandy-hoax-trap/
#28 by annebeck58 on January 25, 2013 - 3:12 am
I completely agree, Johnny.
Just look at all of the back and forth on this issue, which should be treated as the non-issue it is/
Why would people who stopped listning to the news a while back now decide that these same newscasters are suddenly telling any truth; slip of the tongue or not? I really do feel that the anti-truthers are using this to disparage a lot of those we consider on our side. I wish people would think.
#29 by Mike on January 25, 2013 - 4:58 am
Please look into the Greenberg family. Many of the witnesses from Sandy Hook can be connected to this one Jewish family.