TUT Broadcast Dec 17, 2013


Sandyhook

1 year after the shootings at Sandy Hook, a discussion with Michael Collins Piper concerning all the nuttiness that has taken place since then and its larger repercussions.

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  1. #1 by Bubba on December 18, 2013 - 2:19 am

    While addressing the Saban Forum, an Israel Lobby think tank, Kerry warned his Jewish Democratic supporters that Palestinian Arabs in Israel comprise a “demographic time bomb”.

    There is no condemnation of Kerry in the mainstream media. Can you imagine Kerry ever referring to Hispanics as a demographic time bomb in even a private meeting with his fellow Democrats? His political career would be over within two days.

    What’s interesting here is that it’s also notable that Kerry believes helping Israel maintain a Jewish demographic majority is an acceptable agenda for American foreign policy.

    http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Israel-faces-two-existential-threats-Kerry-warns-334283

    Israel faced not one, but two existential threats, Kerry concluded: Iran, and the “demographic time bomb” that is the Palestinian question.

    “Force cannot defeat or defuse the demographic time bomb. The only way to secure Israel’s long term future is through negotiations,” he said.

  2. #2 by Ingrid B on December 18, 2013 - 7:39 am

    Unfortunately you can`t change human nature, some of us are dreamers, some are defeatists, some automatically know everything, and others need to be educated..

    It could be MG, that those who might have sent a few dollars, are put off by the methods of transfer. The banks always want their cut. It might have been easier for people to put a couple of dollars in an envelope, were it not for detection. I`d hate it if TUT were forced to close down..

  3. #3 by graemebird on December 18, 2013 - 8:07 am

    Why are these two highly intelligent men ignoring the actual evidence in this one case? I understand their initial reaction. But a year has passed and the evidence has been fully gone through in some detail. So they are committing the error of the anti-conpirationalist normal people. In that they are dismissing an hypothesis independent of the evidence.

    ed note–very easy answer–BECAUSE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE, other than that which points to a mentally deranged 21 going into a school and murdering a bunch of people.

    I hate to b the one to pull the needle out of your arm here, but the fact is that Sandy Hook happened. Get over it and get on with your life.

  4. #4 by NLG on December 18, 2013 - 11:56 am

    @ bubba

    I disagree. The only way to diffuse a demographic time bomb is through genocide. Israel has pushed its tactic of “soft genocide” as far as it can–“mowing the grass” in Gaza, starving Gazans, limiting their food, fuel, even water. Israel needs an “event” that will either result in the mass death or expulsion of the Palestinians. Kerry talks out of both sides of his mouth. He tells the Zionists what they need to hear (acknowledging the time bomb) while giving lip service to this endless temporizing-for-colonizing tactic called “negotiations.”Their other plan, now, is to crush the Palestinians so hard, with starvation, raw sewage, lack of energy, food, water, that they will give into accepting fragments of fragments of bantustans, which themselves will eventually be a absorbed within two decades, tops. All of this, of course, is blockaded out of the media, just as Gaza is blockaded, by the very same people. Within the media, Kerry, like an actor, knows very well the range, the delineation, of his role. The pressure–the confluence of money, political power, media power, and a nuclear-armed Israel thirsty for war–makes it all but impossible for mainstream American media to show the daily life of the brutalized Palestinians.

  5. #5 by nooralhaqiqan on December 18, 2013 - 12:01 pm

    OK I am convinced. I have stayed out of the SH discussion for all the reasons mentioned early in the programme about the relevance of SH and its impact upon us all.

    One thing I found a few days ago was a short piece on Coumbine which then led me on to the Port Arthur Massacre committed by a very challenged young man (IQ 60) ~ although later proof of Mossad agents were all over the event. The lad, who had never been into weapons, pulled off shooting that astonished professional hitmen. I think it was 32 kills to 28 shots or something along that line. ANYHOW, the evidence pointed to involvement.

    I think that, since gun control is an international issue, (The Port Arthur led to Australian gun control) facilitated by the same group of wannabe-owners-of-all-that-is they use whatever they must in every country and at any opportunity. This could involve patsies, set ups, any form of mind or drug control ~ basically whatever works. And we know these patsies are everywhere just ready to be implemented, maybe sayanim as well; we don’t really KNOW for certain, do we? That is part of their bag of tricks to confuse the issue by introducing as many crazy options as possible hoping that they will totally confuddle issues with the added bonus of leading many down their desired garden path.

    We can lay much of this distraction at the feet of folks like Dallas Goldbug whose followers are prone to use his “scientific methodology” (which insists for example that Bill Hicks and Alex Jones are the same man despite even height issues) because he has conned so many. The whole “fake and crisis actors” situation can be traced to his influence especially after the Senator who was shot few years ago.

    Now on to video games. Back in the 1990’s we parents in the Pscific Northwest Lalaland were pointing out the destructive element of these war games. I was also saddened by the children who played games to the extent of missing child games and the world, but also because I knew that military complex was involved. Of course we were all pooh-poohed as crazy activist parents.

    Since my kids have grown (and they avoided those games also) I have found out much about these games. AND the movie biz. People forget that, after the first showing of Top Gun THOUSANDS of young men signed up at the recruit booths set up at the theatres. That was soooo planned. These games are also perfect training for drone operators as we have seen in Israel where the smaller or weaker members of the IMF are often given such duties.

    BATTLEFIELD 3 VIDEO GAME CONDITIONING AMERICA’S YOUTH FOR ANOTHER WAR FOR ISRAEL (AGAINST IRAN)?!

    http://snippits-and-slappits.blogspot.ca/2011/11/battlefield-3-video-game-conditioning.html

    HOW THE U.S. MEDIA PROMOTES WAR AS ENTERTAINMENT

    http://snippits-and-slappits.blogspot.ca/2011/12/how-us-media-promotes-war-as.html

    HOLLYWOOD AND THE PENTAGON ~ A love affair from Hades

    http://snippits-and-slappits.blogspot.ca/2007/09/to-keep-pentagon-happy-some-hollywood.html

    (Some very interesting facts here)

    I hope it is not taken amiss I include urls to my own blog but I believe some of the material also backs up much of what is said here regarding the development of the “killer drive” in youngsters who are now being raised with no other compass in their lives.

  6. #6 by Tony on December 18, 2013 - 1:55 pm

    Great show Mark and Mike.
    But I must address this new hoax “movement” among our own little movement.
    They are our version of the Tea-bagger Tards!!!
    Cheers…

  7. #7 by aj on December 18, 2013 - 4:04 pm

    The official story is always bullshit until proven otherwise. I have yet to see proof for either position. Plenty of name calling to go around. Not helpful in my opinion.

    ed note–just because the ‘official story’ may be ‘bs’ does not give skeptics license to go off the deep end and come up with wild, unsupportable conclusions and theories that achieve nothing more than to make the movement look like a bunch of lunatics who should be locked up. We have a responsibility here to wake up as any people as possible t the REAL dangers the world faces and this will not be done if certain individuals let their imaginations run wild and in the process give aid and comfort to an enemy with unlimited resources in degrading our message. The official story concerning the USS LIBERTY is BS, but are we going to go off the deep end and say that space aliens were involved? The official story concerning 911 is BS, but are we going to d the stupid thing–as some indeed are doing now–in saying that nothing happened on 911, that no one died and that crises actors were all involved?

    C’mon people, this is not rocket science here and that THIS MUCH explanation needs to be given to a topic as simple as this is very disconcerting, to say the least.

  8. #8 by Ingrid B on December 18, 2013 - 5:36 pm

    As I said MG, a lot of people need to be educated. Some of us, like me, are a bit slow..

  9. #9 by rediscover911com on December 18, 2013 - 6:14 pm

    Two extremes are being bantered back and forth here. The truth lies somewhere in between. TUT characterizes anyone who questions the official story as also being in a camp that says nobody died.

    That “our” government might orchestrate an event to justify gutting Second Amendment protections occurs to those here who also know about USS Liberty, 911, King David Hotel. It is not an extreme position to question whether MK Ultra processes were influencing the patsy, nor is it extreme to question why others were chased into the woods and one ‘perp-walked’ in handcuffs never to be mentioned again.

    The Sandy Hook event isn’t nearly as cut and dried as 911. For that reason, I’ve refrained from promoting Sandy Hook evidence as it is not nearly as easily communicated (listened to) as 911 deceptions.

    I do raise my eyebrows when reasonable questions about why the crime scene would be demolished (like OK City Federal Building), why the state police officials demand that their public statements are the only truth, when there is no trace of the lone gunman for about three years prior to the event and the geek’s online presence is not to be found, when mass media uses clips from other events and times as if their footage is ‘real time’ during the crisis…on and on discrepancies…and such questioning is equated to claims like “no planes”, “space aliens” and “no deaths”.

    The style of criticism is noted and filed for future reference.

    ed note–with all due respect and affection Ed, let’s remember that extremism breeds extremism, and had the Sandy Hookers maintained even a semblance of rationality in this drama from the beginning, it would not have resulted in the backlash you are seeing now from this side of the isle.

    Next–if his were a gov ‘op’, they would have gotten what they wanted. 911 was a hell of a lot harder to pull off than this one and 13 years later, we are still at war in the Middle East, exactly as they had planned. And yet we are supposed to believe that they ‘fumbled the ball’ on this one? I don’t think so.

    The entire debacle resembles the hysteria surrounding the run-up to Y2k, with doom-soothsayers predicting the worst–complete meltdown of society and the NWO utilizing it to usher in their planned tyranny, concentration camps, etc.

    And, just like the doom soothsayers surrounding SH, NOTHING happened, other than to make all those who question the official narrative of other events look like a bunch of nutcases.

    America is an insane asylum where the young are fed a daily diet of nihilism, violence, sex, materialism and everything else designed to reduce them to nothing more than killer robots who will go around the world murdering people in mass. Where Adam Lanza, James Holmes and others differ is that their programming went somewhat haywire, and rather than them enlisting in the military to do what they were programmed to do, instead they detonated prematurely.

    THAT is the hoax and the cover-up concerning SH, that this necessary discussion–meaning the toxic nature that organized Jewry has over the minds of our people–did not take place, and instead what occurred was a bunch of nonsense about ‘crisis actors’, ‘mossad death sqauds’, an event that ‘never took place’ and–lest we forget–that Adam Lanza was ‘Jewish’ when in fact he was not.

  10. #10 by James on December 18, 2013 - 6:44 pm

    MG and MCP are correct and were from the beginning with their warnings. The entire Sandy Hook thing has been a major embarassment to the movement, with time and opportunities lost in bringing people to a proper understanding of what is going on. I myself have heard it more times than I can count now, when trying to tell people about Jewish power and the wars in the Middle East–‘oh, you’re one of THEM, aren’t you, the types who think Sandy Hook never happened.’

    The movement was played like a fiddle and sadly, some don’t even recognize this fact even a year later.

  11. #11 by Wild Bill on December 18, 2013 - 7:57 pm

    Thanks once again to the dynamic duo–MCP & MG, for bringing clarity and clearness to what has been a deliberate program of confusion and nonsense for a year now.

    How can these people with their the Sandy Hook nonsense not see they are being played for fools?

    MG was right on his program, they are NOT on ‘our side’ and need to be treated accordingly. While we throw water on the fire, they throw petrol.

  12. #12 by Lindsey on December 18, 2013 - 10:13 pm

    I stand with Mark on this one, folks.

    Noor, this was NOT as obvious as Port Arthur or Dunblane, with what happened at Dunblane being quite well-known, now, and Port Arthur, all-but-irrefuted, as false-flags to facilitate the absolute banning and confiscation of most fire-arms in the nations of The UK and Australia. Sandy Hook; HOWEVER, is not on the same evidenciary level as the two mentioned above, and there is simply not nearly enough evidence for me to promote this as anything but what it apparently was–a very disturbed young man who no longer could differentiate between fantasy and reality, and after-the-fact did the gun-control machine begin its work, and FAILED MISERABLY, thankfully.

    James is also absolutely correct. If you go to the average person with something like this and claim it to be a false-flag with the flimsy evidence that is “available”, almost every single one of those people are, rightfully, going to walk-away and most likely will NEVER believe anything else that is presented proving REAL false-fag operations, like 911, London’s 7/7, Syria’s chemical-attack, and on and on and on.

    Folks, I know that this is not what you want to hear, but it is what you NEED to hear: Stick with what you/we CAN PROVE, and leave that which you/we can not aside, because far more harm will be done presenting unproven things to the general-public than more than a few people obviously realize, which is very unfortunate, because there are MANY real and proven false-flag operations that we can be showing to the people, instead of things like this that make almost everyone cringe when they see/hear things like this.

    Lindsey

    ed note–actually Lind, I am not so hard-line as to say that we should stick only with what we can absolutely prove. What can we ‘prove’ in this business? Very little. I am not at all opposed to theorizing and speculating, as long as it is, in the words of the great MCP to me–‘informed speculation’.

    Where I draw the line is when people put a magnifying glass to a 1 inch lizard and try to claim it is Godzilla, where things have to be streeeeeeeeched beyond their reasonable limits and in the process alienate would-be/should-be allies.

  13. #13 by persnipoles on December 19, 2013 - 1:49 am

    Basically the way MSM is ‘covering’ the it’s-in-the-culture part is by token mention (‘he played violent video games’), ignoring the Jewish element and telling us Adam Lanza’s could be prevented by our vigilance –just like it’s been with the other notional dangers in the Judaized world. There’s some obvious potential to make ‘mental health’ into a new witch-hunt with a soft-touch: i.e., endungeoning ‘terrorists’ for their own good seeing as how they fit a profile that suits GWoT-Sucker fear and ‘pity.’ All the while ignoring the scam-potential in psychiatry itself…

    Getting lumped with SHr’s after making the conclusion that “America’s going down the tubes as a result of”
    I’d bet people have been making similar conclusions for a hundred years or longer. They probably all had good reason to say so, but I wouldn’t be surprised to get lumped-with-kooks if I said that. It’d be hard not to take the conclusion as something like wishful thinking –like a Domino Theory…
    I’d think it needs a thorough purge, that it won’t happen by itself, and probably won’t happen ’till the media gets it’s own purge.

  14. #14 by Ingrid B on December 19, 2013 - 5:08 am

    Do you think Lanza was an anti-semite?

  15. #15 by nooralhaqiqan on December 19, 2013 - 4:20 pm

    Linds, my point was primarily that they will use any means they can and create opportunity wherever they can because they want to disarm the entire globe. I totally agree about the evidence aspect.

  16. #16 by tsmith on December 20, 2013 - 1:57 am

    Mr. Glenn,

    I think to avoid confusion, its good to know where you stand on this issue..

    1. Do you believe Everything about the official Sandyhook Govt. version of the story?

    2. Are those that question any discrepencies ion the official story to be rmocked?
    Just 2 simple questions. Yes and No or editorial response please.

    Lastly,
    LANZA is a Sicilian name, and they were deported/expelled in the 1500s by the Govt, along with other crypto Jews. Can I get your comment on that as well.
    (This is verifiable on Jewish Geneology sites, Italians and the Church kept flawless records and I can produce them.
    Thank you

    ed note–Absent any believable evidence to the contrary, I think it pretty much happened the way it was reported, meaning that a mentally disturbed young man killed a bunch of people. I don’t think that crisis actors were brought in, I don’t believe a ‘lunch truck’ was brought in to ‘feed’ the ‘crisis actors’ (yes, that was one of the ‘reports’ I saw from the Hookers). I don’t think Robbie Parker was ‘faking it’. I don’t believe Adam Lanza was killed previously and then his body was brought to the scene. I don’t believe a ‘mossad death squad’ killed those people, and I certainly don’t believe that ‘nothing happened’, as many are alleging. Nor do I believe any of the BS that Lanza was ‘jewish’.

    Now, do I believe that people who embrace these nutty ideas deserve to be mocked?

    Sadly, I do, because they are doing great harm to what has been decades of hard-won success in waking up the world to the REAL dangers humanity is facing. They deserve to be mocked in the same way that people who believe Israel is America’s ally deserve to be mocked, as well as those who say the USS LIBERTY was an accident and that 19 muslims flew planes into the Twin Towers on 911 because ‘they hate our freedoms’.

  17. #17 by tsmith on December 20, 2013 - 2:05 am

    Mr Glenn,
    ADAM is a very common Jewish Name, and Lanza appears as a name on a list of all Jews expelled FROM Sicily.
    Here are the records or link the records..

    http://www.italian-family-history.com/jewish/Sicilia.html

    SandyHooknose today:

    http://www.zengardner.com/sandy-hook-cleansed-questions/

    Your lacks of facts leads me to conclude that Your ‘reporting’ is very disingenuous, ill thought, ill conceived, ill prepared, ill delivered as are your conclusions.

    ed note–I know lots of Adams who were not Jews, including John Adams, one of the founding fathers. Are you going to say he was a Jew? How about Rick Adams who broadcasts over at RBN? Is he Jewish?

    As far as the rest, please point to me ONE single thing that you nutcases predicted that came true in the wake of SH.

    NOTHING

    NOTHING

    NOTHING.

    On the other hand however, cooler heads such as yours truly and MCP DID make certain predictions that indeed DID come to pass, a short list of which includes–

    1. no confiscations

    2. no new laws

    3. no ‘repeal’ of the 2nd amendment

    4. no jack-booted Fed agents kicking in doors

    5. no FEMA camps for gun owners

    etc, etc, etc…

    As well as the fact we predicted that the JMSM would use all the SH nuttiness to discredit the entire 911 truth movement, which they did, and with great noise.

    So cast your aspersions all you want but the end result is still pretty clear on this one–

    Glenn/Piper–1
    Sandy Hookers–0

  18. #18 by TS on December 20, 2013 - 2:22 pm

    Thank you for your reply, Mr Glenn.

    Perhaps you have missed the news updates recently. Gun Control Bills flooded the state houses immediately after SH.
    New York state NOW has full unconstitutional gun control, databases, gun restrictions, and those that dont comply are subject to arrest.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-passes-1st-gun-control-bill-newtown-school-massacre-article-1.1240644

    And, Connecticut, where Sandy Hook happened, ‘Maryland, Delaware, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Colorado and California have All made significant changes to strengthen gun control laws, with five states passing new laws requiring background checks on all gun sales including gun shows, New York now has full gun registration, and bans on high capacity magazines.’

    As a direct result of SH, Multiple states debated more than 1,500 gun bills and passed 109 of them.
    Why you/MP choose to ignore this ‘elephant in the room’, I will never know. I always liked your work. Now, not so much.

    Id say:
    MP/MG-0
    SH Truthers +100

    ed note–the lone exception being Colorado, the states that passed laws restricting gun ownership were those with large liberal constituencies who demanded tougher laws and where for the most part ownership of guns was tightly regulated anyway, so please spare us your ‘proof’.

    Furthermore, according to a piece in the NYT outlining the laws passed since SH by the states, of the 109 laws passed, 70 of them–2/3, loosen state restrictions. In my own state of Idaho, changes were made to the laws governing concealed carry that now make it possible for a person such as myself with a concealed carry permit to legally carry in almost 45 states.

    Admit it, like the Y2k doomers and end-of-the-worlders, you blew it. NONE of your predictions bore fruit and you look like a bunch of nutters in front of the entire world, and the sad thing is, nutters is exactly what you are. You are not ‘researchers’ or ‘truthers’ as much as you are sensationalists who have an addiction to material such as this and which makes you prime targets for manipulation by the enemy.

    And lastly, you–like too many others in this movement–‘like’ the work that persons such as MCP and I put forth as long as it agrees with your own conclusions, and in this manner you differ from the rest of the brainwashed people in this country not one iota. Just as they follow a narrative that they find pleasing to their world view, so do you. The numbers of people from either side who are willing to ‘boldly go where no man has gone before’ in search of the truth is miniscule, since for the most part the people in this ‘movement’ are merely looking for an echo chamber to hear their own thoughts reverberate back to them in a way they find pleasing.

  19. #19 by TS on December 20, 2013 - 2:25 pm

    Mr Glenn,

    Lastly, I used the name ADAM as a Jewish name, NOT Adams, per your reply.
    Adam is a very common First name, As you well know, just as David, Moishe, Josh, are.

    Lanzas were expelled from Sicily with hundreds of other Jews, I sent you the link which you published, thank you.

    ed note–your inclination to insinuate or outright charge that Adam Lanza is Jewish despite the fact that there is no proof of this whatsoever is indicative of the fact that you believe something simply because you WANT to, and not based upon a rational examination of facts, and it is for this reason that you deserve to be mocked, as I indicated earlier.

  20. #20 by TS on December 20, 2013 - 3:56 pm

    Mr Glenn,
    Again you assert wrongly and were caught making a few egregious errors like..

    “On the other hand however, cooler heads such as yours truly and MCP DID make certain predictions that indeed DID come to pass, a short list of which includes–
    1. no confiscations
    2. no new laws’

    Oh contraire.
    NEW YORK as a direct result OF SH, has passed NEW restrictive gun laws, including the banning of high capacity magazines, as well as gun show loopholes etc. If this is not proof, I dont know what is, it was cause and effect.
    Certainly some of this backfired, and some gun laws were also loosened, but that was not the plan, that was the people speaking, 150 Gun laws were introduced, most were FOR gun control, 105 were passed, gun control DID Happen in many states as was directly related TO Sandy Hook.

    Lastly, Ive shown you EVIDENCE of the Lanza family being expelled from Sicily with other Jews during the expulsion and you insist he is somehow not Jewish or has no tie.
    This is the type of reporting that makes so many wonder of your intentions..
    We didnt blow anything, we question the official Govt narrative and for that, YOU engage in sophomoric name calling, a tactic readily used by those who have no real argument.

    ed note–as already indicated, the locales where tighter restrictions occurred are in already anti-gun states where laws restricting gun ownership are passed on a yearly basis ANYWAY just as a matter of principle.

    2ndly, there is no evidence WHATSOEVER that Adam Lanza’s family was ‘jewish’ and that they were ‘expelled’ from Sicily, except for some half-assed website that is the ‘truther’ equivalent of something Pamela Geller or Walid Shoebat would put together. Now, if you are so sure that Lanza was ‘Jewish’, tell us all then-what synagogue did he attend? What is the name of the Yeshiva he attended? Which Mohel from which Synagogue performed his Brit?

    You are grasping at straws in the interests of rubbing salve on your embarrassed ego in the aftermath of being led on a wild goose chase where you allowed yourself to be made a fool in front of millions of people, no different than the Y2k Doomers who were proven wrong on all accounts.

  21. #21 by TS on December 20, 2013 - 4:23 pm

    The Headline from The Guardian also disproves your argument.

    Sandy Hook: One year on, Campaigners Prepare for New Push on Gun Control

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/13/sandy-hook-campaigners-push-gun-control

    Shooting of 20 young children and six staff has failed to produce breakthrough on gun laws that seemed possible after tragedy
    Karen McVeigh in New York
    The Guardian, Friday 13 December 2013

    It was the moment that was supposed to change the stubborn politics of gun control in the United States.
    There had been horrors like Sandy Hook before. Aurora, Virginia Tech, Columbine – but this time, the age of the children involved seemed to hold a particular power. Such was the groundswell of support for reform of America’s notoriously lax gun laws that it seemed the political logjam might finally be broken.

    But in April, any hopes for a bipartisan effort to combat such gun violence were dashed in what the president, Barack Obama, described as a “pretty shameful day” for the Senate. After the most repugnant mass shooting in the nation, a bipartisan bill on background checks failed within five votes of passing the Senate.
    A year on, amid vigils and memorial events for those murdered by Adam Lanza, who also killed his mother and himself, campaigners for gun control say they will once more push for Congress to act. They say they are picking up grassroots support, and that sweeping reform in states such as California is a template for what can be achieved.

    Gun control advocates say such statistics do not provide a true picture of the kind of progress they have made. Joint analysis by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence shows that, in eight states, there was sweeping gun reform in 2013.

    Newly formed groups such as Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense have amassed thousands of new members and have chapters all over the country. Americans for Responsible Solutions, a group run by Gabrielle Giffords, the former Arizona congresswoman who was shot in the head in a mass shooting in Tucson that killed six in 2011, raised $6.1m for gun control. Moms Demand Action have launched a powerful ad, backed by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, calling for an end to the “silence” over gun control. Laura Cutilletta, a staff attorney at the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, described the level of support for gun control advocates this year as “unprecedented”.

    Her group’s main mission in 2014 will be to have another crack at getting background check legislation through Congress. The Brady campaign has said it is working with federal lawmakers to this effect.
    They want to tighten rules that govern the sales of guns at gun shows and online, which are not currently subject to a background checks, and which make up 40% of all sales.

    ed note–the anti-gun lobby is always ‘gearing up for a fight.’ That’s what they do, what they ALWAYS do and have ALWAYS done. They were doing it before SH, and if SH had never happened, they would be doing it nevertheless. If they ceased doing this, they would lose the money they get from their anti-gun constituency.

    The powers that be are not afraid of Americans owning guns, and why should they be? Is there any hint of Americans rising up like their forefathers and fighting for their freedom?

    No. Rather, they continue to elect, year, after year, after year, criminals to public office who are the worst enemies to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness that Americans have ever faced, and they do all of this while being armed to the teeth.

    The powers that be want an American populace completely at ease with military-style weapons as it feeds into the militarist mindset that MUST be there if America is to be tasked with fighting Israel’s wars around the world. Start taking away Americans’ guns and the next thing you know, enlistments will be down in favor of kids going to college rather than to Afghanistan.

    Why do you insist upon embarrassing yourself in this manner? The debate is over and you and the rest of the Hookers lost, no different than the Y2k doomers at midnight on Janury 2, 2000.

  22. #22 by TS on December 20, 2013 - 7:09 pm

    Half assed website?
    It is a Jewish Geneology Site for research and has EVERY Jewish name of Every crypto Expelled from Sicily, Talk about graspoing at straws..Lanza was one such family.

    http://www.italian-family-history.com/jewish/Sicilia.html

    Secondly, New Yorkers have enjoyed high capacity magazines for decades!
    There has never been such restrictive laws as there are NOW, as a direct result OF Sandyhook.
    The blind can see this, why YOU cant is beyond me.

    ed note–ok, it is now obvious to me that you are an ideologue, the definition of which is as follows–

    ‘a zealous advocate or adherent of an ideology or someone who behaves very strictly according to an ideology, and never doubts that it is right, despite any contrary evidence’

    And what I have learned–the hard way–in dealing with ideologues, is that they cannot be convinced of the weakness of their position, similar in many respects to those who at one time in human history were absolutely certain, beyond the shadow of any doubt, that the earth was flat, and that if a person walked or sailed far enough, he or she would fall off.

    So I tend to adopt Jesus’ advice when it comes to dealing with ideologues–

    ‘reason with them 3 times and if still they do not see, then shake the dust from your clothes and move on’

    And on that note, I believe we reached that magic number ‘3’ a while ago, so I’m afraid that this will be the end of an absolutely non-productive discussion.

    ciao

  23. #23 by Ingrid B on December 21, 2013 - 5:38 pm

    Well, was he, or wasn`t he, anti-semitic?

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