Remember Alex Odeh? Alex Who???

By Mahmoud El-Yousseph

October 22, 2009

 Alex Odeh was a professor of Middle East History and Arabic Language in Santa Ana, California. He was a U.S. citizen and a Palestinian Roman Catholic who immigrated to the U.S. in 1972, and served as the West Coast Regional Director of the Arab American Anti-Discrimination Committee, [ADC].

 I had the privilege of meeting Alex once at an ADC convention in our nation’s capitol in the Summer of 1985. I served in a similar capacity as Alex, and was a volunteer media coordinator for the ADC chapter in my home state. Alex, a typically gracious Arab, refused to accept money from me when I picked up a copy of his new book, “Whispers in Exile.” As he said to me–“It is a gift!”

 I departed the next day to North Carolina to serve my first two weeks annual tour as a reservist at Pope Air Force Base. Upon my return home, I learned about the tragic death of Alex Odeh in the news.

 It took place at 9:00 A.M. on October 11, 1985 as he tried to unlock his office which triggered a powerful pipe bomb. Alex Ode’s face and chest were torn apart.

 The day this peace advocate was brutally murdered, he was scheduled to speak at Friday prayer service at a Synagogue in Fountain Valley, California.

 The prime suspect of Alex’s murder was a member of the Jewish Defense League [JDL], who fled to Israel. Israel (surprise, surprise) refused to extradite him or allow the FBI to question him. JDL was at that time the #1 domestic terrorist organization on the FBI list.

 One day before Alex’s brutal murder, a Jewish American passenger, Leon Klinghoffer sailing aboard the cruise ship Achille Lauro in the Mediterranean Sea was also tragically murdered and his body thrown overboard. The mastermind of the hijacking was arrested 20 years later by our U.S. special forces following the fall of Baghdad. According to the official account, he died of a heart attack while in U.S. custody.

 Unlike Klinghoffer’s murder that received front page coverage in America’s newspapers, Alex’s death was reported in the back pages. There were no pictures of him, his grieving wife, Norma, or their three daughters Helena, Samia, and Susan, who were all under the age of 10 when their father was robbed from them by Jewish assassins.

 Klinghoffer was nominated by Congress for a Medal of Honor. Alex’s family received a bomb threat during his funeral. Mrs. Klinghoffer received a condolence call from President Reagan. Mrs. Odeh received a letter from Reagan addressed to Alex, thanking him for his financial contribution and asking for more.

 It is worth nothing here that in April of 1994 the city of Santa Ana erected a statue of Alex Odeh in front of its Central Library. Since the time of it being erected, it has been vandalized twice, the most recent one when someone poured two gallons of red paint on the statue. For some people shame has no boundaries.

 After the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush vowed to hunt down the terrorists and bring them to justice. This warning is dandy, but why ignore other acts of terrorism committed on American soil, and why discriminate among the victims of terror?

 Zero tolerance against terrorism means going after terrorists regardless of their religion. It also means targeting countries that provide them with safe haven. The Jewish Defense League has publicly praised the senseless murder of Alex Odeh. JDL publicly stated in reaction to Alex’s murder, “He got exactly what he deserved.”

 It is time that news organizations in our country quit repeatedly playing the old record, “why do they hate us” and instead ask the question “what did we do wrong or fail to do?”

 Since we know who Alex’s killers are and where they are hiding, why not shut down their offices, freeze their bank accounts, and go after them to help bring them to justice, just as we would (and have) with other “terrorist“ entities?

 Then, and only then will there be peace, when at last there is the foundation upon which peace rests, meaning JUSTICE.

Mahmoud El-Yousseph

Retired USAF Veteran

  1. #1 by Bea on 10/23/2009 - 9:34

    Thank you for letting me know about this tragedy. I was completely unaware of it.

  2. #2 by politicaltheatrics on 10/23/2009 - 9:34

    Other acts of terrorism are neglect in the mainstream media because they will incite brutal investigation into the acts of Zionists world-wide.
    Americans are only just waking up to the fact that Israel is not only spying on them but spending their money to kill Palestinians.

    When the public stop relying on their governments to tell them what to think and instead think and act for themselves on behalf of truth and justice then things like what happened to Alex Odeh will either not happen again or the parties in question will be jailed and prosecuted.

    The sheeple need to wake up.

  3. #3 by Dragon on 10/23/2009 - 9:34

    JDL and its people are ruthless killers.
    One day Hitler will be born again.

    History repeats.

    People who sow such seeds will reap it.

    I feel for Alex Odeh.
    Klinehoffer was murdered by Mossad
    to FRAME Palestinians or any one that
    do not bow to these animals.

  4. #4 by Ruth Bernstein on 10/23/2009 - 9:34

    Advice and tips to my good friend Mahmoud El-Yousseph

    Good article, Mahmoud. And well-researched as usual. You are making me quite jealous, all this scholarship and political activism and so on!

    The only thing I don’t like, Mahmoud, is this: don’t you think you should try and put in a good word for Israel and the Jews in general?

    This is not a criticism, just a small suggestion.

    All this Jew-bashing has to stop. It’s making me sick, this needless anti-Semitism. I am a Jew. I know I’m a good person. I cry when people attack me for speaking my mind on this website. It’s so damn unfair.

    I’m only doing my job, after all, and I’m being paid good money to do it.

    So I think in your next article, Mahmoud, you should try harder to say more positive things about Israel.

    We are trying or best to build in the Middle East a great nation that will stretch from the Tigris to the Euphrates.

    We need your help, Mahmoud, and the help of political activists like Mark Glenn and Wendy Campbell, to achieve this noble objective.

  5. #5 by robertvnik on 10/23/2009 - 9:34

    I love articles like this which tell me something I knew nothing about. Thank you.
    As for bringing them to justice, well do we begin with the guy who set the bomb, or go straight to the top and hang those guys who run the Federal Reserve System and own the central banks and pay for all this evil doing.
    My main consolation when I think of all the oppression etc done through history is that there will be a time of judgement for every event including every hidden thing whether it is good or evil.
    Alex Odehs widow and daughters have personal heart-ache of a nature which I have so far not experienced.

  6. #6 by americafarm on 10/24/2009 - 9:34

    Alex Odeh was killed for resisting the Zionist propaganda machine. Of course, this made him, by globalist definition, an anti-Semite. Nobody has ever heard of him because we live under almost total Zionist domination. There are only Zionists and anti-Semites in this political theater. This is why there are no good words that can ever be said about the state of Israel. Because of Israel, we have lost the USA to a monstrous foreign occupation.

  7. #7 by michael mazur on 10/24/2009 - 9:34

    It’s worse than what you say about the mastermind of the Achille Lauro hijacking.

    Abu Abbas masterminded that sending 4 others to hijack it and kill Klinghoffer, and then in 96 was allowed into Gaza having first agreed to respect the Olso Peace Accords and then when in Gaza apologised for the Achille Lauro hijacking?!

    When the 72 Munich Olympics killings of Israeli athletes occurred, the Mossad hunted down the assassins and killed them.

    But it was acceptable to them for Abbas to promise to be a good boy in the future and to apologise for past wrongs ??

    I read that as meaning that he worked for them, and 18yrs later being no longer useful to them, allowed the Americans to kill him in Iraq – heart attack, of course.

  8. #8 by DChristie on 10/24/2009 - 9:34

    Yes, throwing Klinghoffer into the ocean was a terrible tragedy.

    When you think about how polluted the oceans of this world already are, and how much filth has been dumped into it already, it seems absolutely unconscionable that somebody would be so thoughtless.

    Abbas should have actually been hunted down by Greenpeace and made to pay for irreparably polluting the fragile ecology of the ocean with that filthy no good Zionist sack of shit.

  9. #9 by Wilton on 10/24/2009 - 9:34

    Dear Ruth,
    Anti-GENTILISM is the source of “antisemitism”. HUMANITY did not invent “antisemitism” and then wait MILLENIA for judaism to appear, just so everybody could “hate” it for absolutely no reason. Jacob invented judaism, Moses (another “gem” of humanity) codified anti-GENTILISM in his “torah”. Then judaism practiced anti-GENTILISM, their hatred of ALL NON-jews, and the only SANE reaction of any NON-jew is self defense, which the “Tribe” falsely calls antisemitism.
    Judaism is neither a race or a religion, it is Xenophobic Tribalism.
    A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples.
    1. The organization, culture, or beliefs of a tribe.
    2. A strong feeling of identity with and loyalty to one’s tribe or group.

  10. #10 by Wilton on 10/24/2009 - 9:34

    If you REALLY want to get to the ROOT, Judaism is the remnants of ATEN worship in Egypt. When those Sun worshipers were driven out by the conservative Amon followers, they wandered the wastelands looking for refuge. As they wandered, they forgot/REJECTED their Egyptian-ness and grew/developed/nurtured their HATE for all NON-members. The ULTIMATE “sour-grapes” religion. That is the core of their soul now. They “pick the scab” of every perceived hurt. From their EXPULSION from Egypt til today, their Holidays and beliefs revolve around the remembrance of past hurts or slights.
    Just consider. there is NO archeological evidence of Jews in Egypt, because there were none! Egypt HELD Palestine at the time of the supposed “exodus” so a foreign tribe would not “escape” there, but a despised remnant “SECT” of Egyptians could find sanctuary in a far corner of the Empire. Further, the Aten sect timeline fits the mythical “exodus” perfectly.

  11. #11 by world citizen on 10/24/2009 - 9:34

    This is for Ruth Bernstein. The article was about the brutal murder of a man inside of the United States. The prime suspect of that murder fled to Israel. The prime suspect was/is a member of an organization considered a terrorist organization. The Israeli government refused to let the FBI question that suspect or extradite him back to the Unites States for questioning. Ruth, pray tell us what the author of this article could say that was positive about Israel? Nothing the Israeli government did about this case is honourable. Ruth why don’t you put in a good word for Israel and the Jews? Start being a Jewish voice for positive change in the Middle East. Stand up amongst your fellow Jews and declare that what the Israeli government did about this murder was wrong. Stand on the side of justice and human rights for the Palestinian people. Quit being a facilitator for Jewish criminal behavior and a Israeli culture that is overtly racist. Quite making excuses for an apartheid regime in what is fast becoming a pariah state.

  12. #12 by world citizen on 10/24/2009 - 9:34

    Gosh……where are the good Jews of the world? Ruth? Any decent honourable Jews out there? ….Hmmmmmmmm makes me wonder….?

  13. #13 by Interesting Fact about Persian Mythology on 10/24/2009 - 9:34

    @(world citizen)

    The idea of a “good jew” is another hoax to confuse the goyim. The only thing the good jew is good at is covering up the “bad jew” by the way of deception — presenting a smiley kind, though superficial and fake, front so the average goyim would never suspect. All jews from childhood are brought up with the world view that they are seperate and different from all others while at the same time, as a matter of expediance, they are thought to tolerate this wicked world and be “kind” till the King of Jews arrives (worldly appointed messiah when their mission is complete).

  14. #14 by Madame Butterfly on 10/24/2009 - 9:34

    world citizen October 24, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Gosh……where are the good Jews of the world? Ruth? Any decent honourable Jews out there? ….Hmmmmmmmm makes me wonder….?

    1. Jesus Christ.
    2. Virgin Mary.
    3. 12 apostles (minus Judas) = 11 apostles

    = 13 good Jews.

    13 is an unlucky number unfortunately.

    Now all we need is some wiseass to say none of the aforementioned individuals were “Jews”.

    Oh, I forgot to mention President Ahmidenejad of Iran. He’s a good Jew, right?

  15. #15 by The Prodigal Son on 10/24/2009 - 9:34


    I believe you meant to say, “Nile to the Euphrates” rather than, “Tigris to the Euphrates”.

    This of course, describes the boundaries of the proposed ‘Greater Israel’ (symbolized by the vertical blue lines on the flag of Israel), which is – territorially – the ultimate goal of the Zionists.

    According to a document brought to light during an address by Yasir Arafat to the United Nations Security Council, this ‘Greater Israel’ envisioned by the Zionists encompasses, “all of Palestine, all of Jordan, half of Syria, two-thirds of Iraq, one-third of Saudi Arabia – as far as Medina, and half of Sinai.”

    This is also borne out by the image on the Israeli 10 agora coin, which shows a blatant, clear outline of the ‘Eretz Yisrael’ to come – as forseen by the Rothschilds and their Zionist ilk.

  16. #16 by The Prodigal Son on 10/24/2009 - 9:34


    While I agree with some of what you say (such as the REACTIONARY nature of so-called ‘anti-semitism’), I must disagree with your statement that,

    “Jacob invented Judaism”

    And your assertion that…

    “Moses (…) codified anti-GENTILISM “…

    ~~~ ~~~ ~~~

    In Exodus 12:49, God says to Moses (and Aaron),

    “One law shall be for the native-born and for the stranger who dwells among you.”

    If what you say about Moses were true – then surely there would have been no strangers dwelling among them !

    In one of the Ten Commandments, God says, (on keeping the Sabbath) “In it you shall do no work: neither you, nor your son, your daughter, your male servant, your female servant, your cattle, nor the stranger that sojourns with you. (…)”

    Again – how are these “strangers” dwelling among the Hebrews if they were anti-Gentile, as you intimate ?

    Or what of this passage in Leviticus 19:33, 34, where we see God speaking to Moses – saying,

    “And if a stranger dwells among you in your land, you shall not mistreat him. The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.”

    Other instances of ‘Gentiles’ living among the Hebrews may be found in the following verses :

    Leviticus – 16:29, 17:8,10,12,13, 18:26
    Numbers – 9:14, 15:14, 19:10
    Deuteronomy – 31:16
    Joshua – 8;35

    ~~~ ~~~ ~~~

    Anti-Gentilism has its root in the Talmud, not the Old Testament… the Talmud was non-existent in the time of Moses.

    So-called ‘Judaism’ is actually Pharisaism (denounced by Christ), and is not the same religion as was practiced by the biblical Children of Israel…

    Jesus said, “The Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat and make the commandments of God of no effect by their tradition.”

    That ‘tradition’ is codified in the Talmud, and that ‘tradition’ completely NULLIFIES the Law of Moses, and the Ten Commandments.

    note from me, MG–not wanting to be unneccessarily contentious, nevertheless I must disagree with Prodigal Son. The difference between the Judaism of today vs the Judaism of yesteryear is that yesterday’s Judaism had as its focus (1) the worship of a vengeful, racist, bloodthirsty god, coupled with the extolling of genocide, enslavement, exploitation, etc of Gentiles whereas today’s Judaism has as its focus the (2) the worship of a vengeful, racist, bloodthirsty god, coupled with the extolling of genocide, enslavement, exploitation, etc of Gentiles and with it the hatred of Christ and His teachings. To say the two–“Old” Judaism vs “New” Judaism is like saying the atomic weapons dropped on Japan in 1945 are completely different than the atomic weapons existing today. The older ones are not as sophisticated (or lethal in terms of scale) but that is all. This is a point made clear in teh teachings of Jesus, as he condemned all the practices handed down from the worship of this backwards, violent, tribal mindset when he said You cannot pour new wine ito old wineskins as well as His “you cannot serve two masters’. Christianity (as Jesus intended it ) is as much a ‘new, improved Judaism” as modern geography can be compared to the notions held long ago that the earth was flat and that the universe was geo-centric.

    The sole reason the world finds itself in the grips of Jewish madness these days is because rather than hack the tree out, root and all, as John the Baptist alluded to when confronted by the pharisees, instead Christianity in virtually ALL its forms merely pruned the branches from time to time, allowing the tree to gather its strength so that it could come back with a vengence, which it most certainly has now.

  17. #17 by hANOVER fIST on 10/25/2009 - 9:34

    You should all see the piece at – Irv is a huge piece of offal.

  18. #18 by michael mazur on 10/25/2009 - 9:34

    Madame Butterfly,

    ~~1. Jesus Christ.
    2. Virgin Mary.
    3. 12 apostles (minus Judas) = 11 apostles

    = 13 good Jews.~~

    These were the forbears of the Palestinians, whom your faux Jews happily mass murder with as much conscience as a sheep slaughterman does his daily quota; or as easily as the Donmeh Young `Turks` kosher style decapitated the Armenian intelligentsia.

    ~~Oh, I forgot to mention President Ahmidenejad of Iran. He’s a good Jew, right?~~

    A good Jew ??? Riiight, and so also being the President of Iran and having hosted the Holocaust Conference in Tehran in 2006, perhaps President Shimon Peres could host the next Holocaust Conference ?

  19. #19 by Ruth Bernstein on 10/25/2009 - 9:34

    The Secret Agenda of the Jews now declared

    Prodigal Son (October 24, 2009 at 9:07 pm) says: Ruth,I believe you meant to say, “Nile to the Euphrates” rather than, “Tigris to the Euphrates”.

    That’s right, Prodigal Son. I made a mistake. One glass of wine too many, I guess.

    I am talking Eretz-Yisrael. (Greater Israel).

    A Greater Zion stretching from Great River to Great River: where the noble Jew will rule over the ignoble gentile with a rod of iron, keeping him in his place and teaching him the arts of peace and plenty.

    Remember this: whatever we do, however evil it may seem now, is ultimately for own good. To us, world domination is simply a form of animal husbandry.

    Never forget this. You are the cattle, we are the cattle farmers.

    Muticulturalism is merely an experiment in interbreeding.

    We are trying to produce a new breed of cattle: basically brown rather than white or black or yellow. So we are promoting miscegnation as a form of eugenics for you and your kind.

    Meanwhile, by intermarrying among ourselves exclusively, we Jews intend to improve our own racial stock. We shall evolve and become incredibly more intelligent than we are now. Our average IQ will perhaps be 150, with higher IQs topping 200.

    A few hundred years from now, the world will be unrecognizable. We, the Master Race, will be tall, white, blonde and beautiful — whereas you, the Slave Race, will be brown, stunted, ugly, and in most ways indistinguishable from animals.

    Your average IQ will be racheted up to 100, though the more intelligent among you will be allowed IQs of 120-130 — too low to be a challenge to us, but high enough for you to exercise some control over your own kind.

    Here lies the future: we Jews will rule not only the Middle East from Great River to Great River (Nile to Euphrates), but we shall dominate the entire world — from Sea to Shining Sea!

    The dreams and prophecies of the Protocols will then at last be fulfilled.

  20. #20 by Doug on 10/26/2009 - 9:34

    Ruth said:
    “A few hundred years from now, the world will be unrecognizable. We, the Master Race, will be tall, white, blonde and beautiful — whereas you, the Slave Race, will be brown, stunted, ugly, and in most ways indistinguishable from animals.”

    Your average IQ will be racheted up to 100, though the more intelligent among you will be allowed IQs of 120-130 — too low to be a challenge to us, but high enough for you to exercise some control over your own kind.

    Ruth, you will never breed the rat face out of the Jew. That is the Mark of Cain. That’s so we will know who our true enemy is. (ENMITY) Even though Jews have done a good job of hiding their evil deeds in the past, the jig is up.
    No Ruth, you will not rule the world. Americans will be the ones to stop you this time around. That IS comming.

  21. #21 by Amerikagulag on 10/26/2009 - 9:34

    Israeli terrorists will not be brought to justice by the US because the government is complicit with them. Heck, we’ve got Rahm Emanuel running Obama’s court and Biden pulling his strings. Heroes like Alex are better remembered by real humans, not by stuffed government brownshirts.

    Professor Schlomo Sand recently has much to say about the Jewish identity and its association with Zionism in his lecture at NYU: “Invention of the Jewish People”

    “…Sand studies European history, but Israel has a separate department in every school for Jewish history, and Zionists run these departments. “I have not a right to write about Jewishness.” The Zionist history holds that the Jews have an ancient connection biblically to the land, and were exiled from the Middle East in 70 AD, in what became the Diaspora. The Jews of New York and Warsaw. Sand began to question this story when he saw archaeologists’ work about the early Christian times and also when he saw scientific data. The exile is absurd. The Romans persecuted the Jews. They didn’t exile them….”

    “…The Ashkenazi Jews of Eastern Europe originated in Kazaria. They were hugely successful and founded a great city, Kiev. We can claim to have founded Kiev, but not Jerusalem, he said. Because the Jews who lived in the Holy Land stayed in the Holy Land. Many of the people we now call Palestinians were originally Jews. The chance that someone who lives in Hebron today and speaks Arabic is a direct descendant of a Jew in ancient times is 1000 times greater than the possibility that I am descended from a Jew, Shlomo Sand declared….”

    “…The Zionist project began inventing the idea of a Jewish people in the 1870s as a reflection of other nationalisms. The Zionists turned to the Bible for the foundational myth. The biblical myths are taught in Israeli schools from before children are taught mathematics and language–taught about the biblical associations of Jews to this land. But the Exodus is a complete myth. “As a historian, I try and predict the past. I’m not a prophet.” And what are the true predictions of the past: at the supposed time of the Exodus, the Egyptians also controlled Canaan. The kingdom of David and Solomon was not a kingdom at all, but a small settlement around Jerusalem….”

  22. #22 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on 10/26/2009 - 9:34

    To Xanadu & Wendy Campell:

    Please accept my sincere apology over
    my remarks on your debate of Israel Shamir.

    It was wrong choice of words to say, “I am Israel Shamir out.”
    I realized later that it was insulting to both of you. I just hated to see two of my favorite commentors go on each other throat. My intent was redirect your attention to something else. I ended insulting both of you.

    As far as Xanadu explanation for not using her real name on this site, she is very humble, honest and very convincing. God save the queen!

    Hey, next time we cross path ladies, your lunch is on me.

  23. #23 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on 10/27/2009 - 9:34

    FBI: $1-Million Reward for Any Information Leading to the Arrest and Conviction of Those Responsible for the murder of Alex Odeh.

    Alexander Michel Odeh
    ADC Western Regional Director

    What is needed of the FBI is to issue a warrant arrest against all the 3 prime suspects in the case. Put the names on no fly and terrorist watch list. The same info should also be forwarded to the Interpol.

    That is how Roman Polanski was captured in Switzerland recently. It was 32 years after he committed his crime in U.S. soil. That only happened after the DOJ issued a warrant to his arrest in 2005 for a crime he committed back in 1977. That is eight years before Alex Odeh was assasinated in California.

    Otherwise, the one million dollar reward is nothing more than beat around the bushes.

  24. #24 by rharder on 11/08/2009 - 9:34

    I was deeply warmed when I stumbled across this mention of Alex Odeh on the Internet today. It was good to see such an accurate & human description of his character. Rather than some obtuse reference in a political or religious rant.

    I too knew him briefly many years ago. I was a fundamentalist Christian with some extremely limited views of the Middle East, its people, and history. I signed up for a conversational Arabic class through an Adult Ed program (through Cal State Fullerton as I recall). Alex Odeh was the teacher. He was a warm and gentle man who always referred to me as “Raymond.” I usually introduced myself as “Ray” and I have learned over the years that for some reason, the people who choose to call me by my full first name usually become people whom I grow to care about and to trust. This was certainly the case with Alex Odeh.

    Within the first class or two, I took him up on his offer, weekly extended to all of his students, to join him for dessert and coffee after class. Sitting in a local restaurant week after week and having him patiently dispel my ignorance, or at least serious bias, about the modern history of the modern Middle East. I was a pretty ignorant, arrogant, fundamentalist, with little basis in fact for my beliefs. I actually sometimes took notes when Dr. Odeh made statements with which I disagreed and then I ran to the library to try to find “the facts” to prove him wrong during the next post class informal “discussion.” Not once did I find him factually in error.

    His gentle spirit, personal experiences, and erudition gradually led me to think more deeply about my own personal views and values. The way he used to talk about his wife & young daughters was extremely touching and humanized him in a way that would never have been possible in academic discussions in a classroom. For him the “Palestinian cause” was not politics, it was people.

    I was deeply saddened when I heard of his death in 1985. I had by then earned an MA in Ancient Near Eastern Languages and Cultures from UCLA. When I read of his death, I was personally saddened, but by then I had gained the mental tools to understand why he would be killed. He was indeed the worst kind of enemy of those who opposed him and his “cause.” He was someone who personified the very values we must eliminate in our enemies in order to hate them. He was the worst kind of enemy possible, he was the very personification of what his enemies tried desperately to prove is a non-entity. He was a “good Arab” and a better human being.

  25. #25 by adam on 11/14/2009 - 9:34

    Dear rharder

    Wow What a wonderful Christian you have become.

    Alex Odeh would be looking at you with pride and love is my guess.

    Peace be with you both and may those who did the crime do the time in hell.

    Your honesty and grace would make Jesus, Moses and Abraham cry, they would all say if they talked to you in a coffee store, YOu get what our message was all about can we buy you a coffee.

    Well for a fundamentalist you rather sound like a cool Christian! I guess you could drop the fundamentalist part.

    Happy Christmas and New year! and may your family always be safe!

  26. #26 by Bonnie on 06/08/2010 - 9:34

    The firing of Helen Thomas today brought back some powerful memories. In 1985, I had my law office 0n 17th Street in Santa Ana. One morning, a powerful bomb exploded across the street and we were told that an Arab-American peace activist, Alex Odeh, had been murdered. The JDL was the obvious culprit but back then, the average American was not yet aware of the stranglehold which the “State” of Israel had/has on this country. I see from various updates on the Internet that there will never be justice for Alex. Sickening.

  27. #27 by Alex J. Norman on 10/07/2010 - 9:34

    I have regretted from the day that Alex was assasinated, that his murderers were not brought to justice. It appears that they never will, as long as the non-extradiction treaty between the U.S. and Israel is in force. That does not dim the contribution that Alex made. It was he, who in 1983 helped to form the Los Angeles Arab/Jewish Dialogue Group, that lasted for 8 years, encouraged other dialogue groups to form and developed a speakers bureau of Arab/Jew and Facilitator (me). I was a facilitator of the Group during its existence and today two members of the Group remain best friends, one and Arab the other a Jew. It was we, after much research and discussion, published a paper calling for a Two-State solution (1986)when we were ridiculed as being “naive” by Jews and Arabs alike. Just think where we are today, 26 years later, observing Secretary of State Clinton negotiate toward a Two-State solution. We have wasted a lot of time and seen a lot of deaths to get to this point, shameful as it is.

  28. #28 by michael mazur on 10/07/2010 - 9:34

    ~observing Secretary of State Clinton negotiate toward a Two-State solution~

    No she’s not. It’s all to do with `semblance` of negotiations, for the next 4 weeks anyway.

    She’s as much a One State solution person as is Obama, indeed, anyone in that admin or any of the past who was for a two state solution would not get appointed into an admin or pre selected for elected office, though they slipped up with Jimmy Carter.

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