(from J*ffrey R*th)
I already have converted. I was born and raised an orthodox Jew, went to Hebrew school till I was 15, studied the religion for years and years and I agree with many of the issues at hand. However, I get extremely frustrated when dealing with the Marks of the world. They poison peoples thoughts with a bunch of nonsense. I understand the Jews probably more than anyone else on this blog. That is why I get so angry. It is when people start blaming the Jews for everything bad that ever happened in history when I get mad. I mean the war in Iraq?? Come on already. We know damn well that they had nothing to do with that. The Beirut marine base bombing?? Again, nothing to do with that. I have seen a lot of bad in my life. I served in the IDF and Shin-Beth for 6 years as well as the US military for 4, prior to becoming an attorney, and during that time I saw bad things done by many different people. I would enjoy intelligent discourse, but you have to understand how susceptible some people are to boot stomping, hand raising, hiel Hitler type statements. It does not work to educate anyone and it certainly does not bring forth any positive fruits. As I stated before, from the abundance of the heart the mouth will speak. There seems to be no positive message involved with the debate. The repeated reference to the old and new wine skins was taken out of context as was many other statements made. Think about the impact a statement like this makes to those who lack the ability to study and learn on their own. Out of roughly 6.5 billion people in the world the Jews make up roughly 1% or 6 million. To think that such a small percentage could be responsible for such a large majority of bad, is utterly ridiculous. If the glove don’t fit, you must acquit. lol.
(My comments below)
To say I am savoring this is an understatement equal to saying Alan Dershowitz is obnoxious.
You see J*ffrey, I KNEW–despite your best efforts at pretending to be a Christian–that you were a wolf in sheep’s clothing. The arrogance and the hostility that radiated from you towards Jesus as well as all your maneuvers in trying to confuse the discussion with all your quoting of this and that was as impossible to miss as being in a room full of crowded people where someone there has a bad case of gas.
So here we go ‘gain, J*ffrey–“I mean the war in Iraq?? Come on already. We know damn well that they (the Jews) had nothing to do with that.”
1st and 2nd Iraq Wars–
“The 2nd war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neo-conservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history.”
—Ari Shavit, writer for the Israeli newspaper Haaretz
“Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I’ll tell you what I think the real threat is and has been since 1990 —it’s the threat against Israel. And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don’t care deeply about that threat, and the American government doesn’t want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell.”
—Philip Zelikow, member of the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), which reports directly to the president.
“The Mossad (Israeli Intelligence) was busy at the time preparing for Operation Brush Fire, aimed at getting the United States involved militarily in the Middle East in general and in the Gulf region in particular. By January 1989 the Mossad machine was busy portraying Saddam as a tyrant and a danger to the world. The Mossad activated every asset it had, from volunteer agents in Amnesty International to fully bought members of the US Congress…The media was supplied with “inside information” from “reliable sources” on how the crazed leader of Iraq killed people with his bare hands and used missiles to target Iranian cities. The Mossad wanted the Americans to do the work of destroying that gigantic army in the Iraqi desert so that Israel would not have to face it one day on its own border.”
—Ex-Israeli Intelligence officer Victor Ostrovsky, describing in his book ‘The Other Side of Deception’ how the Mossad maneuvered the American government and military into fighting Iraq in the first Gulf War.
Marine barracks bombings in Beirut–
“In the summer of 1983, this same informant told the Mossad about a large Mercedes truck that was being fitted by the Shi’ite Muslims with spaces that could hold bombs. Now, the Mossad knew that because of its size, there were only a few logical targets, one of which must be the U.S. compound. The question then was whether or not to warn the Americans to be on particular alert for a truck matching the description. Admony, in refusing to give the Americans specific information on the truck, said, ‘No, we’re not there to protect Americans.’ At the same time, however, all Israeli installations were given the specific details and warned to watch for a truck matching the description of the Mercedes.”
“At 6:20 a.m. on October 23, 1983, a large Mercedes truck approached the Beirut airport, passing well within sight of Israeli sentries in their nearby base and turning left into the parking lot. A U.S. Marine guard reported with alarm that the truck was gathering speed, but before he could do anything, the truck roared toward the entrance of the four-story reinforced concrete Aviation Safety Building, used as headquarters for the Eighth Marine Battalion, crashing through a wrought-iron pate, hitting the sandbagged guard post, smashing through another barrier, and ramming over a wall of sandbags into the lobby, exploding with such a terrific force that the building was instantly reduced to rubble.”
“The loss of 241 U.S. Marines, most of them still sleeping in their cots at the time of the suicide mission, was the highest single-day death toll for the Americans since 246 died throughout Vietnam at the start of the Tet offensive on January 13,1968. The general attitude at Mossad about the Americans was: “As far as the Yanks go, we are not here to protect them. They can do their own watching. They wanted to stick their nose into this thing, so let them pay the price.”
——Ex-Israeli Intelligence officer Victor Ostrovsky, describing in his book By Way of Deception how the Mossad knew of the impending attack upon the American Marine base in Beirut and refused to warn them about it.
Next I suppose you’re going to say that Ari Shavit, Phillip Zelikow and Victor Ostrovsky (all Jews) are “Islamo-Fascists” and that they don’t know what they are talking about with regard to the aforementioned events and that we should discard everything they say in favor of what you say, right? No, no, wait, let me guess, don’t tell me now–I AM TAKING THESE QUOTES “OUT OF CONTEXT” LIKE I DID THOSE BIBLE PASSAGES, RIGHT???
My God, you people are pathetic.
I believe you served in the IDF. Every Jew is expected to join ‘La Famiglia’ and become a ‘made man’. By the way, how many Palestinian kids did you gun down scumbag?
Served in the Shin Bet? I seriously doubt that. You obviously are not smart enough. You just got your ass whooped by a Gentile and it was as easy for me as taking candy from a baby.
You are wrong about Jews making up “1%” of the world’s population. Rather than there being 6 million (as you assert) the number is closer to 15 million. That number–figured into 6.5 billion–is closer to 2/10 of 1%. Maybe you need to put away that phony law degree you no doubt bought from a diploma mill and take a few basic math courses.
The overall lesson to be learned from this little exchange is that Jews by their nature (meaning, by the way they were raised) are liars and rather than play the game honestly will resort to every form of intellectual hocus pocus in order to win.
And by the way, I absolutely LOVED your comments about Muslims, the ’curry-smelling sand monkeys”. The jealousy on the part of Jews towards the Muslims (Arabs) for all they have achieved and for the all-around decent people they are is positively demonic. I would choose the company of a Muslim–who holds Jesus and His blessed mother in the highest regards–ANYDAY to a Jew like you who believes Jesus was a sex freak, a sorcerer and His mother a whore. If Jesus were here today, saying the same things He said about you people 2,000 years ago you would all try to argue Him into oblivion, and being unable to achieve that would call down all your ADL/JDL goons, having Him arrested and then executed, just as your great great grandfathers did years ago.
I did not grow up hating people like you. In fact, like most deluded Gentiles, I grew up feeling sorry for you and even went to bat in your favor many times.
Now though, having grown up and opened my eyes to the ways of the world, I can now see that you people have deserved EVERYTHING that has come your way.
After all, supposed special/secret agent for the Shin Bet Mr. R*th, was it not Jesus Himself who said “Whatever you sow, also shall you reap?”
OOOPS! There I go again, misquoting Jesus and taking His words out of context!
(c) 2009 Mark Glenn