“Truther” Jeff Rense Threatens to call FBI and Department of Homeland Security on me, my wife and 9 kids

Link to radio program discussing this issue on The Ugly Truth Podcast

Jeff Rense,

since you have blocked my email address and have just hung up the phone on me in mid-sentence, unfortunately you have limited my ability of communicating with you through any means other than a public letter.

The phone conversation you and I just had 5 minutes ago wherein you indicated your plans of having the FBI and Department of Homeland Security (brainchild of Michael Chertof) pay a visit to me, my wife and 9 children over my choice to exercise my first amendment rights in opposing your running the kind of racist, defamatory, hate-filled articles demonizing Muslims proves that you are not a man at all. Furthermore, the fact that you have had David Duke attempt to mediate with me on your behalf no less than 4 times in the last month is just further proof that you are a coward who cannot fight his own battles.

As I indicated to you several weeks ago, your willingness to be utilized by Zionist interests in running articles that enflame the already-dangerous levels of anti-Islamic hysteria in this country is absolutely intolerable from someone claiming to be a ‘truther’ and your defense–that you are trying to provide ‘balance’ and that ‘freedom of speech’ is the most important thing given what we do is now revealed for the lie that it is. Your “threat” to sick the Secret Police on me for MY exercizing MY right to free speech proves you are a fraud and that ‘freedom of speech” is just a one-way street with you. Furthermore, your ‘fears’ that I am “inciting dangerous muslims” to come and do you “bodily harm” is absolutely laughable. If I wanted to do that, I would provide them with your home phone number and address, both of which I have in my possession (not that they would do anything anyway) and your statement as such proves you have bought into all the Zionist garbage about Muslims.

So here is the deal Jeff, just to show you I am a fair man–you want me to get off your back about the anti-Islamic articles you are running on your site? Fine–here’s my counter-offer–REMOVE THE OFFENSIVE, LYING, RACIST, HATE-MONGERING MATERIAL AND I WILL. You are worried about “bodily harm” being done to you by “dangerous Muslims”? THEN STOP ‘INCITING THEM BY POSTING AND HOSTING OFFENSIVE, LYING, RACIST, HATE-MONGERING MATERIAL. Remember that thing about “not bearing false witness” Jeff? Maybe you should take it to heart. After all, if I–under the auspices of ‘freedom of speech’  were to suddenly start a thread propagating the lie that you were a pedophile, embezzler, wife beater, etc, etc, etc, would you  (or one of your friends) NOT have the right to put presure on me to not run such irresponsible and defamatory material?

Absent that, you can call the FBI, DHS, ATF, IRS, CIA, DIA, FDA, HHS, HUD, the US Forestry Service, the US Postal Service and just about any other Federal agency you want on me, I don’t care. I’ll invite them in, offer them a cup of my world-famous coffee and explain to them what a coward you are and why you, your long girly hair and your ‘fears’ should be ignored.

In the meantime Jeff, have fun dealing with the latest fire you have lit under your own ass, and good luck trying to salvage your reputation once people find out that your method of dealing with those who disagree with you is to run to the very agencies you spend all your time warning people about.

This is sad on several levels Jeff, not the least of which is how unnecessary it all was. I made it clear to you on many occasions that I am a reasonable man willing to do whatever was necessary in avoiding conflict within the ranks, absent of course outright betrayal of the truth. I never gave you grief about the BS stuff you run on ufo’s, bigfoot, giant lizards and all the rest because I recognize that everyone has a certain spice they like to use in their favorite dish. Your decision however to resort to such scummy, underhanded methods in silencing your critics shows you are not an opponent of Zionist tactics, but rather one who utilizes them when convenient.

In the meantime, perhaps I’ll encourage my Muslim friends to contact the FBI and DHS over YOUR inciting violence and terrorism against THEM by running articles and sponsering guests which –by your own admission–you KNOW to be lies and liars, respectively.


PS–don’t bother trying to deny the conversation we just had either Jeff. Unbeknownst to you, I had a 3rd party listening to the entire conversation who will testify that everything I am alleging in this open letter took place.


Update from me, MG–10/27/2010


A Plea For Calm

I think it’s safe to say none of us saw this coming, or at least I didn’t. With Jeff Rense’s threat to sick the FBI and DHS on someone for something as relatively trivial as voicing a dissenting opinion and then Henry Makow’s letter last weekend attempting to gloss over that fact, the reaction has been, well, explosive. With the number of emails I have gotten from people supporting me you’d have thought I just won the lottery and everyone knew about it.

And I certainly understand why. Finding what appears to be traitors in our midst, given how dangerous this business we are all involved in is, how could people NOT react like they have? It’s like being at war with another country and then finding out a couple of guys in your own platoon have been meeting with them at night when everyone else was asleep. You then wonder what kind of deals have been made that could end up in you dancing with the Grim Reaper.

However, what I would ask from everyone now is to just let it die, and for several reasons. First, there are more important things to deal with, and all someone need do is look at the news for proof of this.

Secondly though, and I know this is going to sound strange, given that I am now being accused of partaking in a conspiracy to have Jeff Rense murdered, I ask everyone to pull back for the sake of Jeff Rense himself.

The fact is this–He is not a well man. I now know from personal, first-hand knowledge that he is personally going through a traumatic situation right now involving the authorities (that I cannot disclose because I promised not to) that if not rectified in his favor could utterly destroy him. I believe this–and not that he is a “Zionist agent” as some are suggesting–best explains why he is acting so irrationally at the moment, first by threatening to call out the FBI and DHS for something as trivial as a dissenting opinion and then alleging that yours truly is part of the same shadowy conspiracy out to kill him. It doesn’t take someone with a degree in abnormal psychology to see that he is in the midst of some sort of psychological meltdown as evidenced by his holding on to 2 completely contradictory ideas at the same time, one of the criteria used in diagnosing people with all sorts of mental disorders, including acute paranoia. Whether this is being made worse by any substance abuse on his part I don’t know, but as I said, I now know from someone very close to him that he is not sleeping or eating well and is heavily weighed down with worry.

Making matters worse for him is the fact that he certainly lost a lot of his following with this latest episode as evidenced by the deluge of emails I received over the last 5 days (my apologies to those I have not yet responded to, I have been doing my best but the truth is there are too many to deal with at one time). People certainly recognize the danger posed by someone with access to hundreds of thousands of personal IP addresses, email addresses, bank account info and home addresses that could be turned over to the authorities if told to do so and understandably this makes people nervous, given the kind of ‘political’ climate we are all living in today.

However, at this time, throwing gasoline on this thing will not serve any good purposes at the moment. All it will do is put even more trauma on him, resulting in him (and his followers) slipping deeper into this strange, irrational behavior we have all been witness to and lashing out with even more nonsense.

So, as strange as this may sound what I would ask from everyone is this–just let it go. Give him time to get a little quiet and relative peace of mind to wander back into “Camp Reality”. He stands a better chance of getting some help and healing whatever malady of the mind and soul he is dealing with if things quiet down a little. Besides, he has done no damage to me. No one in their right mind would give an ounce of credence to what he’s alleging and those who would are obviously just as troubled and in need of help as he is. Besides, we can all imagine the howls of laughter taking place in locales such as the ADL, SPLC and others when they witness what is taking place so let’s not give them anything more to laugh about.

Lastly, if you are the praying type, perhaps we should keep this man (and his followers who seem to suffer from cult of personality syndrome) in our prayers.

Certainly in a world as brutal as the one we are all living in these days a little compassion might not be totally out of order here.



  1. #1 by jgalindes on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Mr.Glen ,I’m with you.This guy is part of the Jewish Empire controlled oposition,like many others well known to you.

    With respect and admiration extensive to your wonderful family

  2. #2 by anastasia on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    I’ve stopped going onto that site years ago, so he is not inciting me against the Muslims.

  3. #3 by Ali A. jafari on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    May Allah be with you dear Mark.
    Ali A. Jafari from Tehran-Iran

  4. #4 by TQ on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Wow! He isn’t man enough to have a 1 on 1 and talk it out. Very dissappointing! I wish he was more focused on the real criminals and less on ufos and evps.

  5. #5 by Becky on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Mark–may you and your wonderful family be safe. I have been wondering lately why Rense had started inciting hatred against Muslims. I ignore the articles for the lies they are. I am so sad to hear that Rense has been co-opted by the controllers. Thanks for being there Mark, and keep on making us aware of reality. It is not pretty but it is the only thing we can believe in.

  6. #6 by KE on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    I have noticed this on website too. if you look at the writings of rense and brother nathaniel, i think i see this pattern in the way they view muslims. i do not trust this brother nathaniel.

  7. #7 by Joe Cortina on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Mark – I do this just so any and all reader will know EXACTLY where I am coming from. I have known you well enough and long enough to proudly stand by you in this matter. I too have a REAL cause to beat odds with him since he has in essence cast doubts and dispersions onmy personal integrity when he censured me from his site for the crime of speaking the TRUTH about a vile Jew in an article I submitted to him to be posted.

    Had that person not been an immoral devious billionaire Jew attempting to gain political power to advace Jewish issues and further betray MY country – my guess is that it probably would not have been an issue – as no profanity or slander was used. I honestly am shocked that Mr. Rense would sink so low and engage in such sleaze. I had misjudged him as a man of at least some character who despite our differences- would never resort to what can only be termed for what these Jew dominated organizations are capable of in their anti-American conduct- extortion and terror.

    Mr Rense – if this is indeed the kind of person you are ( I will not defile the character of true manhood by addressing you as such- after your cowardly Marxist mentality of frightening mothers and little children) you had better damn well prepare for the battle of your life – for I WILL defend the honor of my friends and MY OWN honor against ALL comers.

    I wouldn’t risk a nosebleed to protect a material ‘thing’ I own – but honor is a different story. People like you will never be able to understand the full meaning of that term. I LIVE IT! You have screwed with the wrong people – Mr! And if you think I am afraid of your rich low-life Jew friends and their Godless thug mentalities – then you have greatly underestimated me.

    If you think that there are only a handful of decent Godly people in this land to support Mark and his family against your Jew thugs – you are in for a rude awakening. I mean you no harm – but if so much as a hair on the head of one of Mark Glenn’s children is harmed – I will make your total destruction a personal holy grail – and I have enough proof to show the world to do that – and people to carry on after me if need be.

    Your threat was totally out of line and I suggest you heed my good council and work these matters out with Mark in an honorable manner. I implore you to stop this insanity before you open Pandora’s box. I have in the past RISKED MY OWN LIFE to insure that these kind of filthy things would never ever be a threat to American families as a soldier. I took a solem oath and that oath did include DOMESTIC enemies.

    Don’t even think about terrorizing the Glenn family and children – or it WILL become very personal and VERY ugly. Please stop the cowardly insanity you are embarking upon. Your vile conduct has ALREADY offened more decent REAL people than you may possibly imagine – so PLEASE do not make it irrevocably worse.

    Joe Cortina

  8. #8 by R. Zuercher on 10/13/2010 - 9:34


    The masks are falling and we have them on the run…. let’s not lose momentum, not now. Soon sprung traps, filled with these vermin, will be a daily sight all over and the wall which they’re up against is higher than they’ve ever climbed to escape from the light.

    You have nothing to worry about, they do, because they never thought that infiltration would be going out of style one day, something they trained for and counted on for thousands of years until the Internet. Now that they went too far, they can only go forward and forward to them are open threats, but make a fist if you have no fingers, their firework is off without the “Grand Finale” and contrary to your belief, dear Mark, we will see the tribunals and that will be our “Grand Finale”.

    So, thank you for all the good and most valuable work you do and may God protect you and your precious Family

    Kindest regards and Love and Peace
    Roland Zuercher

  9. #9 by sean on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    If you look as ridiculous as Rense with the hair and moustache and stupid face it is hard to be taken seriously. He looks like a clown and talks shit. Like the other clown who claims to be the main man in America fighting for the truth, he works for the Jews and is a device for disinformation. The Jews are notorious for promoting absurd crap. As Voltaire wrote:- “if you can make people believe in absurdities, you can make them commit atrocities”. When the Jews said, “We didn’t know the USS Liberty was an American ship” or Clinton smoking a joint but not inhaling or “I did not have sex with that Jewish woman” or Nixon “I am not a crook” . Don’t get me started on Bush. The fact is Voltaire was spot on if the millions that have died down to those clowns is anything to go by.

  10. #10 by Vickie Jacobs on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Rense is a scorpion scout. Scorpions can sting pretty bad but they have to have others do their dirty work for them. Mark, you have been in my daily prayers. I pray for protection from those that can hurt you.

  11. #11 by Doug on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    The FBI and Department Of Jewland security read this site daily. It’s the only way concerned Americans can communicate their frustration to them. They have been brain washed to think their own people are the enemy. Any FBI agents that are not corrupted, are sent to investigate atheletes that are using Juice or some other unimportant task.
    The Department Of Jewland security is just another jew money funnel to beef up security at their criminal planning facilities (synagouges and Chabbad Lubavitch centers) so that angry rioters cannot gain access when the shit hits the fan, as they know it will.
    So, while I am speaking to the FBI, here and now, we ask you to expose the criminals within your ranks, and help us save Amerika. If you don’t, you will be held accountable in the end. You will find yourself on the other end of a shake down. You can’t illegally arrest, detain, or suicide all of us.
    I am fed up with your crimial actions and personally await the great cleansing that is comming. On which side of that will you find yourself? Better ask yourself that question right now. If they tell you that your Mother, Father, Brother, Sister, or Children are the enemy and must be detained, will you?
    What are you made of? Better ask yourself that question also.

  12. #12 by PK on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Ordinarily, I like reading Jeff Rense stuff for entertainment value, but for him to go after you and your family like this is entirely unacceptable. It is at the moments when you really find out who are finds and foes, even those who labeled themselves as Traditional Roman Catholics like you and me. JEFF RENSE is not a TRUTHER. Rather, he is a “waste exit”.

  13. #13 by WC on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Too bad about this in-fighting but it happens. I didn’t think that Jeff Rense was the Islamophobic type, but I guess he does have a streak according to Mark Glenn, who is a personal friend of mine.

    All of this reminds me of a certain line in the latest movie “Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps” and it goes like this, Gecko talking to some guy who is smearing him: “You stop telling lies about me, and I’ll stop telling the Truth about you.”

  14. #14 by Peter Radon on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Mark, knowing you for some years, though never having met you but for several phone calls I would say that it wasn’t necessary for you to have had a 3rd party listening to your exchange with Rense for me to know that the conversation went exactly as you said. You wouldn’t know how to tell a lie, you’re character is un-empeachable and I stand with you. Shame on Rense. This will be sent out far and wide. Your friend, Peter Radon

    –note from me, MG–Peter, I sincerely thank you for the kind words about my character, but the fact is nonetheless I have learned from hard experience that in situations like this, peoples’ memories get ‘cloudy’ over what was said and not said and I could easily see Rense denying everything once it became public that he had stooped so low as to send the federales against a man, his wife and 9 kids.

  15. #15 by KJ on 10/13/2010 - 9:34


    This is absolutely terrible. I am literally watching the entire truth movement break apart into factions that will further serve to divide and conquer us all.

    God bless you for remaining unwavering and unapologetic in your defense of the one group in America that has government sanctioned racism directed at it.

    Rense threatening to call Homeland Security and the FBI is almost hard to comprehend given the condemnations I have heard him speak against these agencies. It might do you well to have someone, who is a paid subscriber, catalog those comments from the archives of his previous shows.

  16. #16 by ROLF on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Sad to hear!
    I’m just interested to here what articles you are talking about?
    But of course this kind of in-discussion behavior is quite sociopathic…to say the least.
    Very strange!
    It surprises and disappoints me very much.

    note from me, MG–I agree, my friend. Given the monumental task lying before all of us, the fact that we have to divert our attention to such matters is tragic, to say the least. At the same time however, given the stakes involved and the fact that we are all risking life, liberty and pursuit of happiness in doing what we do, we cannot make the mistake of not pulling weeds in the garden when they sprout up.

  17. #17 by Issari on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Rense is a known agent whose mission is to make Jew-aware people look like morons. He promotes a lot of Jewish deception on his website, UFO’s, the NK Rabbis and other demons in disguise. He’s full of shit, not trustworthy at all. If from time to time he seems to agree with genuine people, but most of the time promotes and endorses Jewish-injected poison, then he’s definitely a fraud who knows exactly how to keep things balanced and idiots hooked.

  18. #18 by Ray Goodwin on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Rense needs to apply for a job with Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center. They just became a part of the Homeland Security Department and probably could use him. All who work for both outfits are gutless scumbags who like to bully, especially those weaker than themselves or helpless. That is typical Jewish and non-Jewish Judas-goat behavior. Rense would fit right in.
    Ray Goodwin

  19. #19 by David Strader on 10/13/2010 - 9:34


    Rense does appear to be playing both sides but also has a disclaimer on the site that says…

    We suggest you don’t make ‘assumptions’ about our official position on issues that are discussed here. That is not what this site is about. We believe it to be unwise to sweep controversy under the carpet. We also firmly believe people should not only read material which they agree with. The opinions expressed through the thousands of stories here do not necessarily represent those of Mr. Rense, his radio program, his website, or his webmaster, Mr. James Neff.

    I’m not defending the guy. He had a fight with Alex Jones last year that became controversial. He seems pretty private. You never see any pictures of him other than that one with the goofy wig. As with everything, we should continue to be “wise as serpents”. We’ll standby and see how this plays out.

    On another note, I finally listened to Devvy Kidd’s show with you and Phil a few days ago. I was one of the guys who asked her to help get the Liberty story out via emails earlier this year. She sounded totally against Zionism on that show but in her columns, she’s dissing Islam as the world menace. Is she playing both sides also? Who knows what’s going on? I asked her if her husband was related to Admiral Kidd who threatened Phil at the time and she never answered about that, so I suspect he is. Colonel John Kidd is very ill, so I didn’t press it further out of respect. Still, she was sympathetic towards the Liberty story and gave you guys another outlet.

    Thanks again for what you, Mark Dankof and Nashid are doing in the name of mankind to bring peace to this sorry world we’re in. Maybe catch you on Facebook.

    John Gidusko’s excellant USS Liberty website…

    o__ I’ll tell you the truth about the USS LIBERTY, visit
    _.>/)_ http://home.roadrunner.com/~gidusko/liberty/
    (_) \(_)
    Fiat justitia et ruat caelum!
    (Let justice be done though the heavens fall!)

    Recognition of the USS Liberty

  20. #20 by Tammy Obeidallah on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Another keyboard warrior exposed for the chicken excrement he is.

  21. #21 by Deanna on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Does Rense have a special ongoing contact at the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security or would this be a cold call? If he has the power to “have them pay a visit to you and your family,” then that is certainly significant! I guess freedom of speech is only for certain people. Islamaphobia was popularized right after the Federal Reserve was created, about the time that the B’Nai B’rith created the ADL. Hm, I wonder if there is some sort of a connection? With some “special” people, false-flag blame is always shifted to their current enemy. All of this recent Muslim bashing is certainly some kind of media operation to prepare for a U.S. military invasion of Iran. A lot of ignorant people get caught up in the hatred, just as they did against the Southerners during Lincoln’s War, the Germans during both World Wars, the Japanese just before WW 2, the Russians during the Cold War and now it’s the Muslims. Mark, you are really feisty! Keep it up!

  22. #22 by Edward on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    “Won’t you believe it it’s just my luck; no recess
    You’re high school again” (school) Kurt Cobain/Nirvana

    All you need is to look at rense; he’s a clown, his job is to discredit truthful debate.

  23. #23 by mike knapp on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    RENSE is funded by the FONZ – Henry Winkler(JEW).
    Maybe that will help shed some light on Renses Schizophrenia.

  24. #24 by Concrete man on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    By the way, anyone who would like to email Rense can do so at


    An email will come back to you which you have to fill out and then your message will reach out hallowed leader.

    On a related topic, to illustrate the way in which issues are used by the alternative media gatekeepers, the excellent new and very important film about chemtrails, What in the World Are They Spraying? was just released by Mike Murphy. I think Mike is a genuine and sincere guy, and I heartily congratulate him for his creative work.

    That said, I would just like to point out that Mike has relied on G. Edward Griffin, who is a great icon in the Truth Movement, but a fellow who has made a career of going out of his way NOT TO TALK ABOUT THE JEWS. Griffin’s book The Creature is a must read and he does mention the Rothschilds in one chapter, but that is about it.

    Further, Mike Murphy has also made a big alliance with Alex Jones due to Jone’s worldwide network of citizen activists. What if it comes out that the companies that are doing the aerosol spraying are controlled by JEWS (which they most probably are)? According to Alex Jones anyone who criticizes the Jews are scum.

    I know MIke is trying to use them instead of they using him, but we will see how it goes.

  25. #25 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 10/13/2010 - 9:34


    I share the same feelings (to the letter) as Joe Cortina.

    I read somewhere that ‘nobody’ knows the real identity of “Jeff Rense”! I know I have always been of the alarmist type, but this looks like what we call a fall out from the recent threat made to Reverend Mark Dankof and yourself by an ADL-MOSSAD-CHABAD agent and your recent article?

    “USS LIBERTY Issue Proves to Be the Silver Bullet as Powerful Zionist Group Runs For Cover”

    When “Jeff Rense” said FBI and Chertoff, he must have meant ADL of B’nai B’rith!

    I like David Duke a lot, but he too tours Europe and indulges in Muslim bashing! I was listening to him right now addressing a Flemish audience on 3 December 2006 about Muslim, Arab and Turkish “savages” threatening the white European way of life, making their streets dirtier, stealing their social benefits, getting food galore and clean apartments for free, having too many babies…! I was so disgusted within 15 minutes of the talk that I had to stop the 1h09 minute long talk, and decided to take this up with David like I did with Texe Marrs.

    I was going to bed early, but could not help checking the Ugly Truth although I had nothing more to say after my last comment on the USS LIBERTY, and saw your new posting.

    I am deeply sorry to hear about this unfortunate exchange between you and “Jeff Rense”, but all threats have to be taken seriously. Remember what happened to Christopher Bollyn. The ADL is very powerful and from experience Jews can do almost anything they want in the US.

    Of course I will pray for your safety and that of your family, but I prefer to tie my camel first and then put my trust in GOD!

    I wrote a piece earlier on the Jewish Slave Trade in the Americas in which I quoted John 42-47 (Joe’s favourite):

    John 8:42-47 (King James Version)

    42 Jesus said unto them,
    “If God were your Father, ye would love me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but He sent me.

    43 Why do you not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word.

    44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar and the father of it.

    45 And because I tell the truth, ye believe me not.

    46 Which of you convinceth (convicts) me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do ye not believe me?

    47 He who is of God heareth God’s words; ye therefore hear them not, because you are not of God.”

    By threatening you and your family, those who are behind “Jeff Rense” obviously want you to stop what you are doing through blackmail. I remember writing on one of your posts about the Islamic position regarding this threat matter. I will repeat it here. Your family comes FIRST! But, this does not prevent you from educating your children and loved ones in the Truth. If everybody could do the same, Jewish power would be gone for ever because once armed with the truth all genuine Americans will TAKE AMERICA BACK FROM THE JEWS!

    So, as a father of nine, I would not advise you to expose yourself too much. Educating your nine children in being righteous and being successful at it is already a miracle and this should be enough for a single man in one life time. I would like you to become a happy grandfather like I am and to expose yourself less. The Federal Bureau of Israel (FBI) and the JEW Chertoff are venomous snakes!

    I have a big problem with GOD because I do not trust or rely on Him to come to your help as He has already given that job to Christians and Muslims who claim to serve him and not Caesar first. Because they are so scared and terrorised by the Jews, they are allowing all these tribulations in the world.

    I am going to write to “Jeff Rense” right now and send you a copy!

    What I wanted to say in brief is that your children need your protection more than the Muslims! As for me, I will not let you and your family you down. NEVER!


    P.S. All your telephone conversations must be recorded and kept in a safe place, and converted in MP3 if possible. I always did it when I was managing the Windsor Hotel, as well as in business here in the U.K. I still do it when I deal with the administration and other services. They all lie so much that you cannot do without recording your conversations. Solicitors here always tape all incoming and outgoing conversations! Oral witnesses of telephone conversations are useless.

  26. #26 by JR on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Ive always thought Rense’s site by mixing UFO bullshit with truth on the jews was an intentional disinformation site or that of an idiot- does that wig or faggy hair not prove it? I wouldnt say the movement is breaking apart there is no movement and its best to shine the light on bozos like rense

  27. #27 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    Isaac says:
    October 13, 2010 at 10:14 am

    The critics of Judaism are in good company—God’s company:

    In Deuteronomy 28 http://www.drbo.org/chapter/05028.htm and Leviticus 26 http://www.drbo.org/chapter/03026.htm God specified the contract of the Mosaic Covenant. He specified the duties of the Israelites to obey Him, the rewards if they obeyed Him, and the penalties if they disobeyed Him. See also: Leviticus 18:28; Numbers 14:23; Deuteronomy 4:26-27; 6:18; 7:12; Deuteronomy 30; Ezekiel 13:9; Jeremias 7:15; 29:13-14.

    God did not promise to reward disobedience with power, admiration, or a real estate deal in the Middle East; He promised dispersal and misery, even to vomit them out.

    “Keep ye my ordinances and my judgments, and do not any of these abominations: neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you. For all these detestable things the inhabitants of the land have done, that; were before you, and have defiled it. Beware then, lest in like manner, it vomit you also out, if you do the like things, as it vomited out the nation that was before you. Every soul that shall commit any of these abominations, shall perish from the midst of his people. Keep my commandments. Do not the things which they have done, that have been before you, and be not defiled therein. I am the Lord your God.” Leviticus 18:26-30

    Here is God’s Judgment about how well the Israelites obeyed (Is the Hebrew Bible “antisemitic”? Is God “antisemitic”?):

    rejected Him 1 Kings 8:7
    forsaken Him 1 Kings 8:8
    served strange gods 1 Kings 8:8
    hast not kept the commandments of the Lord 1 Kings 13:13
    forsaken the commandments of God 3 Kings 18:18
    forsaken the Lord Isaias 65:11
    forgotten His holy mountain ( the commandments from Mt. Sinai) Isaias 65:11
    didn’t listen to Him Isaias 65:11
    did evil Isaias 65:11
    didn’t answer Him Isaias 65:11
    chosen the things that displease God Isaias 65:11
    forsake God Jeremias 2:13
    made up their own religion “that holds no water” Jeremias 2:13
    had not done God’s work Ezekiel 20:23
    cast off His laws Ezekiel 20:23
    their eyes were after the idols of their fathers Ezekiel 20:23
    defiled Israel with idols Ezekiel 36:16ff
    profaned His Holy Name Ezekiel 36:16ff
    lying pen of the scribes wrote falsehood Jeremias 8:7ff
    they all dealt deceitfully Jeremias 8:10
    they voided the Covenant Jeremias 31:31-32
    sacrificed to idols Jeremias 44:23
    not walked in His law Jeremias 44:23
    disobeyed God’s commandments Jeremias 44:23
    disobeyed God’s Law Baruch 2:10
    the people of Israel will deny the Messiah Daniel 9:25ff
    no truth in Israel Osee 4:1-2
    no mercy in Israel Osee 4:1-2
    no knowledge of God in Israel Osee 4:1-2
    sacrificed to Baalim and other idols Osee 11:2
    He hates their festivities, sacrifices, and songs Amos 5:20-24
    covetous in all the Israelites Amos 9:1
    departed from the Law Malachias 2:8-12
    made void the Covenant Malachias 2:8-12
    not kept God’s ways Malachias 2:8-12
    despised their brothers Malachias 2:8-12
    committed abominations Malachias 2:8-12
    profaned the holiness of the Lord Malachias 2:8-12
    married the daughter of strange gods Malachias 2:8-12

    God speaks equally clearly in the New Testament:

    accused by Moses John 5:45-47
    adversaries to all men I Thessalonians 2:14
    agents of the devil John 8:44
    blind Matthew 23:26
    blind guides Matthew 23:16, 17, 19, 24
    children of Hell Matthew 23:15
    children of the devil John 8:44
    crucifiers Matthew 23:34
    dangerous leaven Matthew 16:6-12; Mark 8:15; Luke 12:1
    defectors Matthew 15:6; Mark 7:9, 13; John 5:45, 46, 47
    deicides I Thessalonians 2:14-15
    dogs Matthew 7:6; Apocalypse 22:16
    foolish Matthew 23:17
    full of dead men’s bones Matthew 23:27
    haters of God John 15:24,25
    hypocrites Matthew 23:13, 14, 15, 23, 25, 27, 28, 29
    idolaters Apocalypse 22:16
    iniquitous Matthew 23:28
    killers of the just Matthew 23:35
    killers of the prophets Matthew 23:37; I Thessalonians 2:14-15
    liars John 8:44, 55; Apocalypse 3:9, 22:16
    murderers Matthew 23:31; Apocalypse 22:15
    offspring of vipers Luke 3:7
    purveyors of fables Titus 1:13-14
    serpents Matthew 23:33
    sorcerers Apocalypse 22:16
    swine Matthew 7:6
    synagogue of Satan Apocalypse 2:9, 3:9
    unchaste Apocalypse 22:16
    unclean Matthew 23:25
    vipers Matthew 3:7; 12:34; 23:33
    void the commandments of God for the traditions of men Mark 7:8-9
    whited sepulchers Matthew 23:27

    axe laid to the root Matthew 3:10
    cast into the fire Matthew 3:10; 7:19; Luke 3:9
    condemned Mark 16:16
    cut down Matthew 3:10
    in vain do they worship me Matthew 15:9; Mark 7:7
    judgment of Hell Matthew 23:33
    shall be broken Matthew 21:44
    shall be ground into powder Matthew 21:44
    the kingdom of God shall be taken from you Matthew 21:43
    woe Matthew 23:13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 25, 27; Luke 11:42, 46, 47, 52
    wrath Matthew 3:7; Luke 3:7; 21:23; St. Paul in I Thessalonians 2:16
    you do not enter the kingdom of Heaven Matthew 23:13


  28. #28 by RickB on 10/13/2010 - 9:34

    I figured as much, from this guy… rat. Either this or hire a hit man. Look out Mark, you’re calling out a dirty rat; and his dirty game is his livelihood.

  29. #29 by Concrete man on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    1. To Mike Knapp, can you provide a citation to your claim that the Fonz is funding Rense?! Sit on it! Thanks. Rense claims he posts all of his stories by himself, but that seems humanly impossible. What network is really supporting him?

    2. To B.A. Freemaux Soormally: Regarding Bollyn, I trust Michael Collins Piper’s assessment of Bollyn that he is also a disinformation artist. You can get the whole story if you listen to the archives at the Republic Broadcasting Network, The PIper Report. Piper was betrayed by Bollyn on a number of occasions. Also, Piper has critiqued Bollyn’s latest book claiming to show the Israel 911 connection. Most of the book is just background information that does not draw many or even any hard conclusions based on empirical evidence. In this way, Bollyn discredits the thesis that Israel did 911 (which is undoubtedly true!).

  30. #30 by Druid on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Rense is too narcissistic and self-infatuated to conform his opinions and behavior to the Truth. He just can’t do that.

    In this sense, Rense is no “Truther”. At best, he’s a money-hungry chameleon-like personality. At worse, he made the choice to align himself with the snake-like hypocritical mentality of the pharisees.


  31. #31 by Druid on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Rense has been heavily pushing Devvy Kidd’s hysterically anti-Islamic crap in 2010, and mostly in the last few months.

    That – only that – tells everything we need to know about this shady character.

  32. #32 by no one on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    More BS jew splinter group nonsense.
    Ive got an idea, why dont you debate Eli James like he challenged you. Not accepting the challenge means you lose.

    –note from me, MG–Eli James is a propagator of ‘Christian Identity’– the idea that whites are actually ‘the chosen people” rather than the Jews. I have no use for such nonsense. I have looked at the CI position for some time and the only thing I can compare it to is the idea once espoused by some that the earth is flat. Ist alles clar?

  33. #33 by B.Benhamid on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Mark, it is known that falsehood by its very nature will perish on its own.
    Your mission to expose the Ugly Truth may kick up some heavy dust the opposition hates to inhale.
    Wishing you all the best in your endeavors and thanks for doing this for us.

  34. #34 by Lydia D. on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Stunning developments, but not surprising considering the nature of the diabolic enemy that those who are seeking truth are encountering. We are in trying times.

    I reckon we should look at this threat as “separating the wheat from the chaff.” Better to know who and what your opposition is, that way you can keep them in your sites.

    In the meantime, may St Michael the Archangel, St Joseph protector of families, and St Gabriel Pascendi (patron saint of hand gunners) protect you and your family.

  35. #35 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Concrete man October 14, 2010 at 1:18 am

    “2. To B.A. Freemaux Soormally: Regarding Bollyn, I trust Michael Collins Piper’s assessment of Bollyn that he is also a disinformation artist.”

    WHY are you spewing all this nonsense when all I said was:

    “Remember what happened to Christopher Bollyn.”

    If you do not know what happened to him or what I am talking about, then SHUT UP! I am fed up with people talking besides the point! I was talking to Mark because of “Jeff Rense’s” threats, and you cannot even respect that without coming with your polemics! You are Mr Know It All, but hide behind a fake name!

    If you want to debate any issues, chose another post and another moment, identify yourself, and QUOTE ME!


    –note from me, MG–Basheer, our friend here is correct. Being formerly-employed by AFP (the paper that was Bollyn’s employer for many years) I am semi-intimately acquainted with the fiasco and can tell you it was not a case of “you know who” out to get Bollyn. The fact of the matter is that while drunk Bollyn picked a fight with a bunch of cops he personally called and then made gestures indicating he was going into the house to ‘get help’ which they interpreted as him getting a gun, and thus pounced on him, and rightly so.

  36. #36 by Arthur on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Hi Mark,

    Like yourself and Joe Cortina and many others I’ve also been forced to come to a similar conclusion regarding Jeff Rense.

    He was posting my material without any problems until one day about a year ago he suddenly contacted me to say that I had spammed him by sending him something like 14 or 15 copies of an article and so he was removing me from his email list.

    In doing so I was put in the very same position as yourself in that I had no means of communicating to him the fact that I had also sent the article to 200 other people on my list and in checking up with them no one else had received more than a single copy.

    There was no explanation or discussion. I tried to appeal to him via a mutual correspondent Henry Makow but nothing ever came of it.

    Now, in retrospect, I suppose I should check into the last few articles that I did send him. Possibly I was exposing the anti-Muslim bashers and hate-mongers and thus fell from Jeff’s grace.

    It’s fortunate that in your case you actually have some incriminating evidence to go on.

    Since that time I’ve written Rense off and don’t go to his site so I was unaware of the recent Muslim bashing posts.

    Like many commentors are stating the truth is coming out and those wolves in sheep’s clothing will eventually be exposed. It appears another one is now passing through the scanner of truth and his hidden agenda is showing up loud and clear and the alarm bells are ringing.

    Keep on keeping on but always remember that 13th Commandment: Watch your ass!(and those of your children too).


    Arthur Topham

    note from me, MG–Arthur, good to hear from you again man. Hope all is well oin your neck of the woods.
    I am not in the least worried about Jeff Rense’s threats. As I said, anyone here who wants to talk to me, fine–I am a very accomplished conversationalist. Besides, I relish ever opportunity I get in talking with ‘authorites’ as I get to study what makes them tick, including the FBI agents I spoke with a few weeks ago. My only reason for making public the latest drama between me and Mr. Hairdo is to let people know that he is someone to be dealt with at arm’s length.

  37. #37 by Sam on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Hats off to you Mark.

  38. #38 by Perry L on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    I tried to initiate a conversation with Jeff Rense about this issue a couple of months ago when i too noticed the growing prevalence of silly mis-informed and flat out ignorant (Frosty Woolbridge for instance) “anti-Islamic” articles being run on rense’s web site…and got NO response. I was simply trying to give him a friendly warning that being “neutral” in this global fight is no longer an option and running trash like Devvy kidd’s recent ignorant anti-Islam screed would expose him as a Zionist butt boy shill.

    Bummer Jeff I’m right yet again. Maybe you can go into the “Jeff Rense: I love Kosher Dogs Signature Knee Pads” business foreskin breath.

  39. #39 by Northerntruthseeker on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    I am also disgusted by these actions by Jeff Rense….The guy is only showing his true character, and that character is a disgusting narcissistic egomaniac….

    I guess now we can add Jeff Rense to the list of disinfo sites…..

  40. #40 by The Avatar on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    – what an Ass hole –

  41. #41 by The Avatar on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Concrete man this seems very true:
    “Good for Mark to take on the Beast! I am not surprised to hear Rense make such threats. In fact I believe that Rense and Alex Jones are part of a false opposition psy-op to keep the sheeple corralled within THEIR paradigm: Alex Jones says anyone who criticizes Israel is scum and Jeff Rense says Jews are not Zionists and Zionists are not Jews. Both propositions are patently false.”
    thankyou i am just getting to know all this characters and your info helps
    A LOT!

    looks like he, rense, RINSES out the truth and leaves the lie
    he should also RINSE his mouth because when someone calls the FBI these dont come for “your family” they come for you if they find something “dangerous”
    “Coming for your family” is a term used by thugs and gangsters
    and Jews,
    very unprofessional and paranoid

  42. #42 by Ognir & DBS on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    We’ve been saying this for months, it was so obvious. Is he trying to get back with that other piece of shit Jonestein?

    That’s it Jeff, mix in Big foot, ufos and them damn muuusslims

  43. #43 by oy vey on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    “if they ever find out what we have done, they will chase us down the the street
    and lynch us”.


  44. #44 by restinpieces on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Jews Control Your Mind.

  45. #45 by Ferd on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    I like Rense. the only contributors I don’t like in website is frosty woolridge, the genuine racist and bigot and devvy kidd (for not really discussing about the zionist chokehold on the US and the Palestinians). There are some on his radio shows that are real lightweights and nobodies like skousen and arnold whom he seems to give a lot of exposure to. people should have brains when they go there and pick out articles that they want to read. his website is still a reliable source of good information. i personally don’t know the guy so i won’t comment about his personality. seems some commentators here really want and relish the thought of putting in a wedge and create a great schism between personalities in the truth movement. don’t fall for it. in the end, it is the human being and his intuition that would guide him to the truth. i do believe Mark and Jeff really really need to mend this problem as they both are indispensable and tremendous forces of good and good information irregardless of each others predilections.

  46. #46 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    –note from me, MG–Basheer, our friend here is correct. Being formerly-employed by AFP (the paper that was Bollyn’s employer for many years) I am semi-intimately acquainted with the fiasco and can tell you it was not a case of “you know who” out to get Bollyn. The fact of the matter is that while drunk Bollyn picked a fight with a bunch of cops he personally called and then made gestures indicating he was going into the house to ‘get help’ which they interpreted as him getting a gun, and thus pounced on him, and rightly so.


    I trust your words, and our friend may be correct, but I have not been confronted with any kind of evidence confirming this, and I did not read that “while drunk Bollyn picked a fight with a bunch of cops he personally called” in the Police Report!

    I read Bollyn’s report on one of the “planes” of 911 and followed the Court case against him, and all I know is that Bollyn and his family disappeared, and “he” re-appeared causing a lot of disappointment amongst his own friends who stood by him during the trial. At that point in time, I never found any trace of “a disinformation artist” in the man. I did not read the articles one “Christopher Bollyn” has been writing lately on “Islamic Intelligence”.

    As for my remark regarding “Concrete man”, I do not accept any accusation that is not backed up by evidence, and asking me to listen to the RBN “archives” is not an approach I appreciate.

    But, my point was that I felt it my duty to comment on this posting regarding the threats and I was not in the mood at all to deal with controversial issues with unidentified people.

    It is 7:30 AM and I haven’t even gone to bed yet because I was still researching for evidence regarding the joint cowardly US-ISRAELI attack against the United Arab Republic in June 1967, AND I HAVE FINALLY FOUND IT, and the evidence is damning and coming from the very mouth of an Israeli Intelligence officer, but I am not going to post it here as I do not wish to spark more controversy!



  47. #47 by Jay on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Forget the FBI And Homeland stupidity, worried if he send the UFO and big foot after you.

  48. #48 by Concrete man on 10/14/2010 - 9:34


    All I was saying was according to your comment, it sounded like Bollyn was a victim of the ADL. Piper would say Bollyn used the incident of being attacked by the police as a pretext to gain sympathy as a disinfo artist. I should have explained that better. Rather than being nasty to me, I thought it was quite interesting that Piper had critiqued his book to show that Bollyn is at best a hack writer, or at worst something, worse. So, it was related to your post (I normally avoid forums like this because of idiots like you).

    I understand you are not a very pleasant person so will refrain from talking to you in the future.

    Peace, Concrete man (my real name)

  49. #49 by Jimmy on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Jeff Rense is a Crypto Jew, trust me! Check his expression (picture), it is a Jewish one, and one He will never be able to rinse out of his hair. It is now possible to DNA test to find Jewish DNA. Have him send a lock of his hair (if it is real).

  50. #50 by FJ on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Just got around to reading email about Rense…sorry you have to put up with this BS…it really is the time of the separation of the sheep from the goats…In Philly we had a saying about men like you Mark and that was “small but powerful” in other words you don’t screw with guys who are built close to the ground because their center of gravity is lower and more stable and usually will be able to take a large man down easily…that is you my friend…you are built close to the foundation of Christ and express yourself humbly but with courageous authority…and so long as you stay grounded to that Authority fear nothing and love greatly! May God continue to be with you and the family and may you continue to be with God. Your friend and prayer warrior Fr. Jim

  51. #51 by Randa on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Jeff Rense? Who is Jeff Rense? Try doing a background check and you will get diddly squat. The “man” is nothing but a biological robot who serves the satanic agenda of Israel. Controlled opposition. “His” father worked for Rand Corporation which may give you an idea of who created this filthy robotic monster. Honestly I don’t know how anyone can listen to him.

    A couple of years ago I told Jeff Rense, “You Lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    And his response was as slimy and slithery as his website and show. He stalked my contact list.

    What a guy.

    Jeff Rense is a biological version of Satan.

  52. #52 by cattle on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Yes, the FBI won’t come for Mark’s family they would come for him. But you can be sure that Child “Protective” Services would be there too. The FBI would arrest Mark on trumped up charges (an FBI specialty since they work for the ADL) and CPS agents would “arrest and detain” his 9 kids in one of their Soviet gulag/DHS reeducation camps. Marks wife wouldn’t be allowed to visit or communicate with him and if Mark ever even sees his kids again they’ll be enemies turned against him.

    This is how they do it now. They learned from Ruby Ridge not to use tanks and shoot unarmed women and children in the face.

  53. #53 by Joumana Caprilla Gebara on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    I do not understand why my comment is not showing up. I posted the following:


    I do not know neither Mr. Rense nor you Mr. Glenn. I came by coincidence to this site, after having received an email from an Australian friend with the content written by Marc Glenn. So I googled you to read further and there I see you are threatened.

    First of all, people who threatens others with FBI etc are called denouncers who remind me of the Drittereich and Gestapo, in order to oppress freedom of speech, because only one “color” of truth (backed by the government) is what is required. Everyone else who does not voice the same opinion as the authority becomes blackmailed and discredited. What Mr. Rense does not understand at all is that the authority should be at the service of the people and not the opposite. Such organizations as secret services are not to the service of the people when they spy on the citizens having a different opinion than the aurhority is dictating and brain washing the people with it.

    Secondly, I have lived in a country with a mixture of sects (religions) which have fought each others and had interfights (i.e. Christians vs. Christians, Muslim vs. Muslim) so the theory of Mr. Rense is invalid, as we saw in Lebanon that Christians are able to lead massacres just as Muslim are.

    Bottom line remains that INCITING against Muslim will lead to further wars and Mr. Rense is short visioned. What people need is a feeling of belonging, is a feeling of being valued as human beings with disregard of their religion, ethnicity, ideology, etc.. only this can ensure a repositioning of the individuals (or groups) from feeling as outlaws and reintegrates them into the society.

    It is also disappointing to see the “humanity” still so far from civilization condemning each other on the base of religious beliefs in 2010, while Bush and King Fahd ate together caviar and drank champagne, made the best oil deals and other businesses, while Arafat and Perez held together a Nobel Prize of peace although both unworthy of it, drank and ate together while the people are dying from hunger in Palestine. It is sad to see Israeli civilians killed by Palestinians and sad to see Palestinians killed by Israeli, while people have learned to verbally communicate and both speak Hebrew and arabic, and if not they could communicate in English and resolve the problem of power for greed for the sake of humanity.

    Alas, Mr. Rense needs still a long way to understand the true conflict and I hope that Mr. Glenn remains safe and free even if I do not agree with all his opinions but he should have the freedom of speech granted in a country which declared Human Rights Chart already in 1942!

    Best regards,

    Joumana Caprilla Gebara

  54. #54 by bond on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    dont even bother with rense, about every third article is an insult to a persons intelligence. And im a wood cutter. I get an irritated feeling after being on his shite ,i mean site,

  55. #55 by Lindsey on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Yes, I am still alive! While it is very difficult for me to get consistent internet access where I am currently, and even the time to be able to use it when I do, I did want to take a few minutes and say how absolutely DISGUSTING it is for anyone as powerful and far-reaching in this bowel movement *known as the “truth movement”* as Jair Rinse is to do what he has tried to do to you and YOUR FAMILY.

    You know, guys, this reminds me of the apoplectic response that Alexei Johansewitz had when he was confronted with Benjamin Freedman–it was honestly-to-God as if Mike Delaney had performed an exorcism via the telephone line, and all that the alleged demon could do was lash-out with expetives and spew its green-pea laden venom over the airwaves once the TRUTH TRIED TO SET IT FREE! *LOL*

    Anyway, here is what Jair Rinse really looks like, and I now fully understand WHY he puts-up that photo of him on his website! *LOL*


  56. #56 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    I have to admit that I never have heard of this clown named Jeff Rense before.
    This man is trying to create an image of you that does not fit you as a real person.

    If I am not mistaken, few years ago, another moron with the same first name tried to pull the same stunt before. We know what happened to him.

    You are not the man who will bow his head or bend his knees to those cowards.
    If he is reading your blog, I am sure he will get the message that you are not alone.

    I have a similar experience on the dreadful of September 11.
    Members of various domestic terror organizations flooded the phones of various
    law enforcement agencies accusing me of supporting suicide bombing and having links to Al Quada. Not to mention, I got a serious bomb threat the day after.
    Many agents stopped by my house and left their cards at the front door. They just wanted to talk to me. All of this amount to black mail and intimidation for those with whom they disagree. Not to mention the waisting the time and resources of our government agencies.

    To make a long story short, I was cleared of any of those malicious allegations. That sad part all of that happened when my duffel bag was ready and I was on stand by for deployment.

    The good news was, the editorial page editor came to my defense and vouched for my loyalty and patriotism, and so did a respected Korean War veteran and a local Jewish professor. Both men wrote letters in my defense and denounced the accusations as slander and character assassination.

    Rest assured my friend , if this weirdo carry on with his threat, I am ready and on stand by to offer whatever help you need. Be it material or logistic support. You are scaring these people to death Mark! When they lose the argument they rely on smear campaign to score a point. They do not like it a bit when they are of defense. Now you are making them working overtime to keep up with you. Hang on there my old buddy. You are not not alone in this fight!

  57. #57 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    I do know from experience, this is an uphill battle.
    No matter what I say, it is not going to be enough to show my gratitude for what you do and stand for. Ever since I cross into your site, I have noticed how much time, energy and resource has been devoted on this site in defense of Islam and the plight of the Palestinian people. To me, this is heart warming. It also reflect the true Christian love. Many of those vicious attack against Muslims that we see day in and day out are specifically designed to create a rift between Christians and Muslims in this country.

    Since you do not buy their garbage or sit idle on the side line, you therefor become the target and their enemy. Keep in mind that people serving in our law enforcement agency are not dummy. They know what is going on. They are watching those agents of foreign governments. They know who puts America first. They know who cares about peace and justice at home and abroad. They are no different than you or I. We all want America to be free again, a better and safer place for all of us.

  58. #58 by lakeshore on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Rense is Alex Jones for depressed people. He has never given a crap about anyone but himself. I’m sorry, but for all his anti-Zionist Rhetoric, every second guest he has on is jewish and pushing some product no one needs. It’s all about money for him (and I guess occult Muslim hatred too) and always will be. Peace.

  59. #59 by Rubina on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Mark, you, your writings and broadcasts are consistently of a high caliber. Your rapport with your many fine guests is a pleasure to listen to, and your co-presenter Mark Dankof is as eloquent and gracious as you.
    There are many Muslims like me who are fed up with the wedge being driven between us and true Christians by the zio-jewish nasties and those who opt to join them.
    I already had a high regard for true Christians as a result of the commandments in my own faith, and listening to the 2 Marks has strengthened it. I remember one quote in particular from you ascribed to Jesus (pbuh), in which Jesus said: when a group of you meet to talk about and praise me, remember I will be amongst you.
    I also echo the sentiments of all who’ve written in to support you and your family.

    note from me, MG–thank you for the kind words Rubina and please take strength in the fact that I draw inspiration from people like you and the rest of the Muslim community who are being unjustly treated these days.

  60. #60 by Ognir on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Come on Mark before he sends big foot after you, release the audio so we can hear what was said !

    note from me, MG–Ognir, there is no audio recording of the conversation. In order to record this, (legally) I would have had to let him know from the beginning of the conversation that it was being recorded which doubtless would have resulted in him hanging up on me immediatel and this was the reason I had a ‘witness’ there instead. Given Rense’s irrational nature, I knew I had a good 30 seconds of conversation time before he would have hung up which is exactly what took place.

  61. #61 by John Kaminski on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    All this has a familiar ring to me as I experienced much the same treatment from Rense a few years back. It’s what happens when you say something he doesn’t want you to say. Rense pretends to foster people who have important things to say about freedom and justice, but when you look more closely at what is being said and particularly who is saying it, you see that it’s just another level of Jewish disinformation, and unfortunately, most readers are not able to distinguish the difference. Victor Thorn was so right about Rense and Jones years ago. They are information shapers who works for the Jews. Not to pat myself on the back too much, but all the important writers are eventually kicked off Rense, because they veer too close to the truth that Rense tries to hide. And that is that no Jewish writer can be trusted to tell the whole truth about anything, because they’re simply operating on a different plan than the rest of humanity. The most important thing Rense tries to conceal is something another writer banned from Rense (at least on certain stories), J. B. Campbell, said the other day, noting how important it is to remember what so many like Rense work to conceal, that the Jews are out to kill us all, except for the few slaves they want to keep around as mineless and spineless gophers.

  62. #62 by Randa on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Protocols of Zion

    Protocol 12: Control of the Press

    1. The word “freedom,” which can be interpreted in various ways, is defined by us as follows –

    2. Freedom is the right to do what which the law allows. This interpretation of the word will at the proper time be of service to us, because all freedom will thus be in our hands, since the laws will abolish or create only that which is desirable for us according to the aforesaid program.

    3. We shall deal with the press in the following way: what is the part played by the press to-day? It serves to excite and inflame those passions which are needed for our purpose or else it serves selfish ends of parties. It is often vapid, unjust, mendacious, and the majority of the public have not the slightest idea what ends the press really serves. We shall saddle and bridle it with a tight curb: we shall do the same also with all productions of the printing press, for where would be the sense of getting rid of the attacks of the press if we remain targets for pamphlets and books? …

    For any attempt to attack us, if such still be possible, we shall inflict fines without mercy…. No one shall with impunity lay a finger on the aureole of our government infallibility. The pretext for stopping any publication will be the alleged plea that it is agitating the public mind without occasion or justification.


    4. NOT A SINGLE ANNOUNCEMENT WILL REACH THE PUBLIC WITHOUT OUR CONTROL. Even now this is already being attained by us inasmuch as all news items are received by a few agencies, in whose offices they are focused from all parts of the world. These agencies will then be already entirely ours and will give publicity only to what we dictate to them.

    5. If already now we have contrived to possess ourselves of the minds of the GOY communities to such an extent that they all come near looking upon the events of the world through the colored glasses of those spectacles we are setting astride their noses; if already now there is not a single State where there exist for us any barriers to admittance into what GOY stupidity calls State secrets: what will our positions be then, when we shall be acknowledged supreme lords of the world in the person of our king of all the world ….

    6. Let us turn again to the FUTURE OF THE PRINTING PRESS. Every one desirous of being a publisher, librarian, or printer, will be obliged to provide himself with the diploma instituted therefore, which, in case of any fault, will be immediately impounded. With such measures THE INSTRUMENT OF THOUGHT WILL BECOME AN EDUCATIVE MEANS ON THE HANDS OF OUR GOVERNMENT, WHICH WILL NO LONGER ALLOW THE MASS OF THE NATION TO BE LED ASTRAY IN BY-WAYS AND FANTASIES ABOUT THE BLESSINGS OF PROGRESS. Is there any one of us who does not know that these phantom blessings are the direct roads to foolish imaginings which give birth to anarchical relations of men among themselves and towards authority, because progress, or rather the idea of progress, has introduced the conception of every kind of emancipation, but has failed to establish its limits …. All the so-called liberals are anarchists, if not in fact, at any rate in thought. Every one of them in hunting after phantoms of freedom, and falling exclusively into license, that is, into the anarchy of protest for the sake of protest…. FREE PRESS DESTROYED

    7. We turn to the periodical press. … if there should be any found who are desirous of writing against us, they will not find any person eager to print their productions. Before accepting any production for publication in print, the publisher or printer will have to apply to the authorities for permission to do so. Thus we shall know beforehand of all tricks preparing against us and shall nullify them by getting ahead with explanations on the subject treated of.

    8. Literature and journalism are two of the most important educative forces, and therefore our government will become proprietor of the majority of the journals. This will neutralize the injurious influence of the privately-owned press and will put us in possession of a tremendous influence upon the public mind …. If we give permits for ten journals, we shall ourselves found thirty, and so on in the same proportion. This, however, must in no wise be suspected by the public. For which reason all journals published by us will be of the most opposite, in appearance, tendencies and opinions, thereby creating confidence in us and bringing over to us quite unsuspicious opponents, who will thus fall into our trap and be rendered harmless.

    9. In the front rank will stand organs of an official character. They will always stand guard over our interests, and therefore their influence will be comparatively insignificant. 10. In the second rank will be the semi-official organs, whose part it will be to attack the tepid and indifferent.

    11. In the third rank we shall set up our own, to all appearance, opposition, which, in at least one of its organs, will present what looks like the very antipodes to us. Our real opponents at heart will accept this simulated opposition as their own and will show us their cards.

    12. All our newspapers will be of all possible complexions — aristocratic, republican, revolutionary, even anarchical – for so long, of course, as the constitution exists …. Like the Indian idol “Vishnu” they will have a hundred hands, and every one of them will have a finger on any one of the public opinions as required. When a pulse quickens these hands will lead opinion in the direction of our aims, for an excited patient loses all power of judgment and easily yields to suggestion. Those fools who will think they are repeating the opinion of a newspaper of their own camp will be repeating our opinion or any opinion that seems desirable for us. In the vain belief that they are following the organ of their party they will, in fact, follow the flag which we hang out for them.

    13. In order to direct our newspaper militia in this sense we must take special and minute care in organizing this matter. Under the title of central department of the press we shall institute literary gatherings at which our agents will without attracting attention issue the orders and watchwords of the day. By discussing and controverting, but always superficially, without touching the essence of the matter, our organs will carry on a sham fight fusillade with the official newspapers solely for the purpose of giving occasion for us to express ourselves more fully than could well be done from the outset in official announcements, whenever, of course, that is to our advantage.


    15. Methods of organization like these, imperceptible to the public eye but absolutely sure, are the best calculated to succeed in bringing the attention and the confidence of the public to the side of our government. Thanks to such methods we shall be in a position as from time to time may be required, to excite or to tranquillize the public mind on political questions, to persuade or to confuse, printing now truth, now lies, facts or their contradictions, according as they may be well or ill received, always very cautiously feeling our ground before stepping upon it …. WE SHALL HAVE A SURE TRIUMPH OVER OUR OPPONENTS SINCE THEY WILL NOT HAVE AT THEIR DISPOSITION ORGANS OF THE PRESS IN WHICH THEY CAN GIVE FULL AND FINAL EXPRESSION TO THEIR VIEWS owing to the aforesaid methods of dealing with the press. We shall not even need to refute them except very superficially.

    16. Trial shots like these, fired by us in the third rank of our press, in case of need, will be energetically refuted by us in our semi-official organs.

    17. Even nowadays, already, to take only the French press, there are forms which reveal masonic solidarity in acting on the watchword: all organs of the press are bound together by professional secrecy; like the augurs of old, not one of their numbers will give away the secret of his sources of information unless it be resolved to make announcement of them. Not one journalist will venture to betray this secret, for not one of them is ever admitted to practice literature unless his whole past has some disgraceful sore or other …. These sores would be immediately revealed. So long as they remain the secret of a few the prestige of the journalist attacks the majority of the country – the mob follow after him with enthusiasm.

    18. Our calculations are especially extended to the provinces. It is indispensable for us to inflame there those hopes and impulses with which we could at any moment fall upon the capital, and we shall represent to the capitals that these expressions are the independent hopes and impulses of the provinces. Naturally, the source of them will be always one and the same – ours. WHAT WE NEED IS THAT, UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE ARE IN THE PLENITUDE POWER, THE CAPITALS SHOULD FIND THEMSELVES STIFLED BY THE PROVINCIAL OPINION OF THE NATIONS, I.E., OF A MAJORITY ARRANGED BY OUR AGENTUR. What we need is that at the psychological moment the capitals should not be in a position to discuss an accomplished fact for the simple reason, if for no other, that it has been accepted by the public opinion of a majority in the provinces.


  63. #63 by C. Skads on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Mr. Glenn,
    Among the “truth movement” writers, there are only a few that I truly trust – you are one of them, Mr Glenn. I’ve never visited this Rense guy’s site and due to his unwise and inconsiderate behaviors – such as this and also, among others, his posting nonsense articles – it is less likely I will do so in the future.

    May God bless you and yours, Mr. Glenn.
    Take care…

  64. #64 by Noor al Haqiqa on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Instinct strikes again! Over the many years I have been studying issues we all have a common interest in and gone to many many sites in the process. Only once or twice did I use material from Rense’s site, those being on the Talmud.

    I thought, at the time, he was of a similar mindset but for some reason, never ever went to his site. Unless to nab the latest Dee visual. Instinct just kept me away from there otherwise. The moment people brag about the size of their … ahem… blushes.. oh yes their Internet site, I lose interest because that indicates to me it is a power game, kinda like the guys who drive humvees to town to buy personal products for their wives.

    So, let’s hear it for instinct, boys and girls. Along with a good source of wisdom, instinct is one of the best friends we have. And, Mr. Rense will be placed on the shelf alongside AJones and a few others…………..

  65. #65 by rockclimber on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    As I said at another forum: I wished MG would release the audio of the phone call to put this sasquatch on a UF0 nonsense telling, long haired freaky zionist in his place. Rense’s mix of nonsense with truth is still just shit pudding.

    I noticed that he has a radio network and one particular host, Devvy Kidd to my knowledge and to this day has never uttered the word “zionism” or “jew”. I presume she is a Christian Zionist. If he’s trying to keep everyone happy on his network by Muslim bashing (for Devvy) than shame on him and the UFO/Sasquatch nonsense does a decent job minimizing the message when he attacks zionists/supremacist jews.

    Money rules the day and as a former admin of a website called conspiracy central, Rense’s webmaster used to have fits when his radio ‘show’ was uploaded as a tracker file. Now I think he realizes it’s good advertisement. IT’s all about the zio bucks for some people…

  66. #66 by bearandblizz on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Rense has 5 pages of Marks work (put Marks name in the search bar)so I dont think its a censorship thing.

    I remember when AJ threatened to sue Jeff last year, and so many other infights in the Alternative/Truth Movement.

    How could it go so wrong. It makes it hard for us in the trenches to continue the fight.

    so sad

  67. #67 by paschn on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    The phoney “Schill” also cut Roy Tov off at the knees. Since that happened, I seldmon go to his site, unless I want to use it to identify marrano postings and Talmudic Jew schills.
    Now i have to locate another site and use it until the boys from Khazaria buy it off as well. Any suggestions?

  68. #68 by Randa on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Thank you Paschn.


    Apparently there is a ringleader who controls rense.com and infowars.com (probably RBN as well) who gets his orders from Israel. Roy Tov wrote an article a bit too close to the bone and the ringleader told Rense to censor/ban him.

    As for your enquiry about websites, whatreallyhappened.com is quite good. Mike Rivero has alot of integrity.

  69. #69 by rockclimber on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    I wouldn’t worry about the infighting bearandblizz, much of it is about keeping people honest. People like Alex Jone$$$ and Rense will move on because they both have huge egos and they love zio bucks. In their own way, they both work against the anti zionist, anti supremacist jew message.

    Mark: If you do a put together an audio file concerning this whole dispute I will try to be the first to post it at: http://tracker.concen.org to help expose these phonies that are out there acting like their on our side.

  70. #70 by rockclimber on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Ognir and DBS said:

    “We’ve been saying this for months, it was so obvious. Is he trying to get back with that other piece of shit Jonestein?”

    That wouldn’t surprise me either. I think it was DBS who said that while Rivero, Rense and others were forced out so that Jone$$ could ‘increase’ it just seems to fit.

    Jone$$$ ego is so big he thinks he’s the ‘watchmen on the wall’. Almost like what JOhn the Baptist told Christ, paraphrasing John 3:30 “He must increase, but I must decrease.”, Jone$$$ probably told himself that, LOL! “I the great Alex Jewn$$ must increase, they must decrease, so I hope I get that show on Faux News”.

    Either way, RENSE and Jone$$ are polluting the waters.

  71. #71 by Lucus Rose on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    This is interesting given that Mr. Rense has been called antisemitic
    as late as 6 months ago. Makes it hard to figure out which way he

  72. #72 by Arthur on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Now here’s an interesting little exchange Mark. The comment I posted on your site I also later sent to my Anti-Zionist Canada group plus some associates one of whom bcc’d it Jeff Rense. Jeff writes me and questions my sanity and following that (below) is my response to him.

    Of course, conveniently, he has my email blocked so I had to try to get someone with access to forward it to him. Even the link to contact Rense doesn’t work.

    I’ll leave readers to judge who is insane here.


    Arthur October 14, 2010 at 3:53 am

    Hi Mark,

    Like yourself and Joe Cortina and many others I’ve also been forced to come to a similar conclusion regarding Jeff Rense.

    He was posting my material without any problems until one day about a year ago he suddenly contacted me to say that I had spammed him by sending him something like 14 or 15 copies of an article and so he was removing me from his email list.

    In doing so I was put in the very same position as yourself in that I had no means of communicating to him the fact that I had also sent the article to 200 other people on my list and in checking up with them no one else had received more than a single copy.

    There was no explanation or discussion. I tried to appeal to him via a mutual correspondent Henry Makow but nothing ever came of it.

    Now, in retrospect, I suppose I should check into the last few articles that I did send him. Possibly I was exposing the anti-Muslim bashers and hate-mongers and thus fell from Jeff’s grace.

    It’s fortunate that in your case you actually have some incriminating evidence to go on.

    Since that time I’ve written Rense off and don’t go to his site so I was unaware of the recent Muslim bashing posts.

    Like many commentors are stating the truth is coming out and those wolves in sheep’s clothing will eventually be exposed. It appears another one is now passing through the scanner of truth and his hidden agenda is showing up loud and clear and the alarm bells are ringing.

    Keep on keeping on but always remember that 13th Commandment: Watch your ass!(and those of your children too).


    Arthur Topham

    note from me, MG–Arthur, good to hear from you again man. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods.
    I am not in the least worried about Jeff Rense’s threats. As I said, anyone here who wants to talk to me, fine–I am a very accomplished conversationalist. Besides, I relish ever opportunity I get in talking with ‘authorites’ as I get to study what makes them tick, including the FBI agents I spoke with a few weeks ago. My only reason for making public the latest drama between me and Mr. Hairdo is to let people know that he is someone to be dealt with at arm’s length.


    From: sightings@mindspring.com
    Subject: Fwd: “Truther” Jeff Rense Threatens to call FBI and Department of Homeland Security on me, my wife and 9 kids
    Date: October 14, 2010 10:37:17 AM PDT (CA)
    To: radical@radicalpress.com


    Are you completely insane, too?

    You DID send…and I DID receive…massive numbers of duplicate emails from you which I politely informed you about on numerous occasions before finally having to block them. Your comments below are so beneath someone of dignity, I am amazed. I misread you as an intelligent, logical and pragmatic mind. You are most certainly not writing like one below. I tried to assist you by publishing your work which I was under NO, ZERO, obligation to. If I stop publishing anyone’s work on MY site, it is MY business. You act as if you have some birthright to have your material appear on my site. Bizarre, Arthur, bizarre. I am truly sorry I tried to be helpful to you in the past. Remember when I took my non-existent time to help you with logos, etc? My problem is I am too nice, too kind, to try to help too many people who are only to happy to paint themselves as ‘victims’ and martyrs if they don’t get their way. You really should be ashamed…but you won’t be. Your kind never are…and that is why our enemies have it made.


    From: radical@radicalpress.com
    Subject: Re: “Truther” Jeff Rense Threatens to call FBI and Department of Homeland Security on me, my wife and 9 kids
    Date: October 14, 2010 11:28:59 AM PDT (CA)
    To: sightings@mindspring.com


    Again, it’s apparent that you still refuse to acknowledge the obvious fact that you, and only you, received multiple copies of that email which, to any reasonable person would indicate that this was NOT coming from me but from either your own computers or from someone out to discredit me by hacking my email.

    I tried on numerous occasions to convey that simple explanation to you and also enlisted the help of Henry Makow to get this simple explanation across to you but you either blocked the mail or refused to admit that it could be anything but me trying to spam you, which, if you think about it, would be a rather “insane” thing to do given the previous relationship we had.

    That one instance, which you now claim, required “numerous occasions” to inform me about is a disingenuous remark Jeff for all of this occurred within the scope of a single day. You make it sound like this was a regular occurrence which it wasn’t.

    As I repeatedly stated, out of 200 recipients who received that email that day, ONLY YOU received multiple copies.

    Now, given the nature of my work and the fact that I’m involved in a legal battle with B’nai Brith International here in Canada, doesn’t it strike you as just a wee bit questionable that suddenly, after I’d been sending you copies of my articles for sometime without any problems, out of the blue, I would decide to spam you? I’m not in the habit of biting the hand that feeds me.

    You, of all folks, given your coverage of the Zionists, ought to be aware of their multiple subterfuges and clandestine computer attacks. That is why I found (and still find) your adamant and simplistic argument/defense so frustrating.

    Certainly you have all the right in the world to control and publish whatever content you choose on your site. I’ve never questioned that. But to make false accusations against me, i.e. that I intentionally spammed you, is something I refuse to accept.

    And no, you didn’t misread me. I am a logical, pragmatic person. That is why I find your explanation and justification for treating me the way you did unacceptable.

    Now, in this unexpected email from you, you’re making further accusations of a negative nature.

    1. I never ever stated that I felt you were obligated to run my work. In fact, whenever you did, I was always extremely grateful and acknowledged the fact to you.

    2. I never acted as if it were my “birthright” to have my articles appear on your site. I was always grateful as I just stated.

    3. I didn’t “paint” myself as a ‘victim’ or a ‘martyr’. I only wanted you to understand that it was only your site that received multiple copies of that email and you refused to accept that explanation from me and you STILL are using it as an excuse to vilify me further by now questioning my sanity for having attempted to right a wrong.

    What is “bizarre” Jeff is for you to be still ranting about those purported “spams” and now asking me to feel “ashamed” for trying to explain the possible reasons for them and then, to boot, making puerile remarks such as “Your kind never are…”

    What is “my kind?” A man who has been fighting injustice since 1968? What were you up to in 1968? I’ve been in the thick of so to speak for well over 40 years now Jeff and if that doesn’t attest to my intent and my character and my integrity then I don’t know what does.

    No, Jeff, based on all that has gone down over this issue, I feel it is you who ought to be “ashamed” of your reactionary and unjust judgment of me.

    Shine your Light for Love, Peace & Justice for All,

    Arthur Topham
    The Radical Press
    Canada’s Radical News Network
    “Digging to the root of the issues since 1998”

    note from me, MG–Arthur, Rense’s MO now is to characterize anyone who disagrees with him as ‘insane’, which also, coincidentally or not, is the EXACT SAME MO as Jewish groups when they want to discredit critics of Jewish excesses and abuses.

  73. #73 by 1bassman9 on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Half-truth tellers are still liars. Anyone and I mean anyone that still endorses the fairy tale of the 19 Islamo-facsist suicide bombers, cavorting in titty bars leaving Korans, ID, etc., and preparing for their encounter with 72 virgins, and painting all of Islam as evil, while giving a free pass to the real culprits, the Israeli Mossad are just as guilty as the ones who commited the crime.

  74. #74 by Randa on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Henry Makow is aware of the “ringleader” who controls Rense, Jones and Stadtmiller ~ the zionist Israeli who tells them what to publish and which guests and shows they are allowed to have on their website. It is this “ringleader” who cancelled Mark Glenn’s USS Liberty show on RBN.

    It is time to name these ratbag monsters. This “ringleader” is probably on mossad payroll, while ordering the ever anti-zionist ratbags Rense, Jones and Stadtmiller their content.

    One other clue that I have received is that he is a GOP politician.

    I hope this helps.

  75. #75 by Randa on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Who escapes these bastards? Every government of every nation on Planet Earth (with the exception of Iran and Syria) is controlled by zionists. Feel free to substitute “jew” for “zionist” if that fits your agenda, but the Truth remains, humanity is now under control of the Agenda of Zion.

    It is not a matter of waking up. It is a matter of Truth. And it hurts.

    If it doesn’t hurt, you are most probably under the influence of Zion (satanism).

    Stay True. Stay True to the Bliss (and Eternity) of Another World. There is Another World. Where it DOES NOT HURT.

  76. #76 by Randa on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    Mark, I am listening to your podcast and my ears are burning. THE TERMINAL MADNESS OF THE ENDTIME was written by the absolute most evil person on the planet, Joseph Chiappalone of Queensland, Australia. Chiappalone BEAT AND ABUSED his wife multiple times (hospitalized several times) the absolute beautiful and amazing (my mentor) DR. AMITAKH STANFORD. I am certain Amitakh actually wrote the “Terminal Madness of the Endtime” but Chiappalone is such an absolute horror, he grabbed the information and published it under his name, when he was married to Amitakh. And now of course, a regular guest on rense.

    Amitakh is a Malaysian/Chinese Australian whose brilliance and compassion is beyond all knowing. She is the source of all True Light and True Divine Mind on Earth at the present time.

  77. #77 by Helena on 10/14/2010 - 9:34

    As a writer, I am not at the level of skill, or the level of output, of fine people who have commented here like Messrs. Cortina, Kaminski, and Topham. But I have been trying to get an article published on the internet for a couple of years now, and naively I couldn’t understand why Rense and Makow, through whom it was submitted, showed no interest. The piece is an analysis of the character assassination of Ayn Rand, vis-à-vis Alan Greenspan, and her purported relationship with Philippe de Rothschild, as well.

    My thesis, you see, is that she was surrounded by Jews who had an agenda and used her for their own ends. Since her reputation was a media product, it was easily a manufactured product. The essay is not primarily about the Zionist agenda, or at least I thought not. But if Rense has a “ringleader,” and Makow is in on the operation, it makes sense that there is control over the nature and extent of whatever criticism of Israel and its various schemes has been permitted.

    Anyway, I could be way off base with all this, but those who have read “The Rise and Fall of Atlas Shrugged” aka “Greenspan & the Illuminati Plot Against Ayn Rand” on its wordpress location have made very positive comments to date. I don’t mean to be self-serving with this, just care about the subject – otherwise I wouldn’t have written about it.


  78. #78 by joeymaclover on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    Ha! Your such a cry baby! Won’t approve my comment? Now I know your just a big baby and won’t listen to you again!

    note from me, MG–don’t let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.

  79. #79 by rockclimber on 10/15/2010 - 9:34


    As promised here is a link to the file you just completed today exposing Jeff Rense. I posted it at conspiracy central which is a very popular site for getting files like this noticed. All in all they run a pretty tight ship and support free speech of which I am thankful.


    Everybody please spread Mark’s audio file EVERYWHERE and make this a complete success. We need some checks and balances in place and Rense is just another egomaniac getting rich off 9-11 and conspiracy in general. Guys like Rense and Jones are no longer comitted to the truth-like everyone else they want a piece of the pie before Rome sinks. Very jewwwy. (sorry but that’s my opinion)

    Well I’m off to a few other places to get this posted to share this link.

    Great work Mark, and sorry you have to be put through this. A real man would say he was sorry, but I don’t think Rense is going to shock us any with an apology. Ego and money rules the day.

    God bless,

    Scott Davis, aka, rockclimber

  80. #80 by X on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    I listen to Rense nearly every night and have done so for years. I can’t remember him ever criticizing anything but things like zionism, the use of depleted uranium, bad food, our education system and the shady things our own government does at times. I don’t really agree with some of his guests, but he also has some really interesting guests. I just don’t listen to the ones I don’t like (and sometimes I do). I guess I don’t understand what’s going on. He doesn’t seem like the type to threaten people. I don’t understand why he is not following up with Clif High’s sight, halfpasthuman, being taken down.

    –note from me, MG–go back and listen to the archives of shows he has done with rabid Muslim haters like Frosty Wooldridge and Devvy Kidd. Irrespective of that however is the fact that he cannot be trusted anymore as evidenced by his threat to go the FBI and DHS against those in his own movement. This is the kind of guy who becomes an informant and spy in the service of the very people and entities we are all fighting against.

  81. #81 by M on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    here is more of rense’s madness

    note from me, MG–Leapin’ Lizards, didn’t expect THAT.

  82. #82 by hprice on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    Just listening to the podcast now. It doesn’t surprise me since I believe that this kind of thing has been Rense’s job since the beginning. I just want to make it public now that if you dig into his website hosting company you find the name “Mark Williams”. Now I don’t know if this is the same guy but there was a Mark Williams who was just apparently kicked out of the Tea Party movement (which I believe is very interesting).

    But thats a side matter really, Rense’s website is designed to make people foolish or to herd people in one direction rather than another. That is its job. Read it for enough and you will see that.

    And it is really fascinating that David Duke is involved in this as I have always had a sneaky feeling that David Duke is another guy who’s job it is to make people who are anti-zionist as being anti-semitic and of a neo-nazi bent. People should not put their stock in David Duke. There are people out there who do a similar job but do NOT have a background in the KKK (which of course maybe a CIA/FBI run thing earlier times).

    Also Mark Dankof, you should know by now that there is no Left and Right. Please stop talking about the Conservative Right, and all that. It doesn’t make any sense any more. There is no Left … there is no Right. You should know that through Mike Piper for instance.

    Remember people are not necessarily who they claim they are. There are countless numbers of “crypto-jews” who claim to be people of the highest regard, and turn out to be something much different. This may be the same with those who claim to be Christians and say all the right things (like Duke is supposed to be) but … may not be who they seem.

    So shed the religious nonsense. It doesn’t help. Look at the people, their associations, their company and companies they’re associated with, and what they say. All these things will tell you more than their religious affiliation.

    But anyway, I’m happy that Rense is finally showing his true colours. Something some of us including WingTV, and Daryl Bradford Smith have been pushing for years. If you want to know about Rense’s past check out the WingTV archives. That will tell you more about the man.

    ps and Mark G … has the islamophobic nonsense really hit such a high that people’s house are being burnt down, or windows being shot at??? I’ve not seen anything to show that. Please Mark … your language is going too far. I understand your (overuse in my mind) of allegory but what you are saying is probably not true. Take a leaf out of Mike Piper’s book. What you say is just a touch too close to fear-mongering. Please don’t fall into the Alex Jones way of doing things. I know we should stop being so nice about things but the truth is a very very important thing to hold. Don’t let them show you as a fearmonger even though it might not be your intent. Thanks.

    HPrice, Christchurch, NZ

    ps its easy to see Rense.com for what it is. Just look at who Rense’s columnists are: Devvy Kidd, the truly awful Frosty Wooldridge … Karl Schwartz … Webster Tarpley … the list goes and on. Its incredibly obvious if you open your eyes.

    pps and beware of Presstv.ir … it has the feeling Tass had in the old days. Things may not be what they seem 🙂

    Note from me–MG–in answer to your question the answer is a definitive YES–the homes, businesses and places of worship of Muslims in America are attacked DAILY. I suggest you sign up for email updates from CAIR and you will see for yourself.

    As far as the rest, I don’t think David Duke has ulterior motives, nor do I think for a moment that he is an “operative’ of any sort. The fact that he — with the best of intentions, found himself in the middle of this is unfortunate but it has not changed my opinion of him in the least.

  83. #83 by Lydia D. on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    re: M October 15, 2010 at 3:06 am

    here is more of rense’s madness


    Holy smokes, I’ve always said that in order to lose your mind you have to have one first…(trying desperately to keep from bursting out laughing hysterically!)

  84. #84 by tassypaul on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    Interesting discussion here. After a few years of study arising from 9/11, I for one have some ability to sense disinformation. Never trusted Rense. Don’t like Jones at all.

    On the subject of USS Liberty, y’all should read Alan Hart’s article (from his trilogy ZIONISM: The Real Eenemy of the Jews) published June by Veterans Today
    Why Really The USS Liberty Was Attacked by Israel?

    Further, everyone should go out of their way to obtain and read his Trilogy!
    Got mine on Amazon.
    Hart is NOT anti semitic, he is an outstanding journalist, historian and writer.
    Not hard to see why the Zionists have tried so hard to suppress this trilogy.
    They like not the light of TRUTH.

  85. #85 by 2live4truth on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    Mark, Thank God I never listened to this cutsy moron anyway. What a jerk! Your friend, Sharon

  86. #86 by kelley on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    Peace be with you, Mark. I am horrified that Rense would make such a threat against you and your family. Your points regarding the weakness of his character, and/or even the possibility that he’s working for the dark side may be quite right. And let me say that if I were ever asked to choose sides, I would choose yours.

    Like you, I also hold the likes of Frosty Woolridge and Devvy Kidd in utter contempt as accessories to stirring up hatred toward Islam. Quite honestly, once a person realizes that 911 was a false-flag, I don’t see how the intended after-effects of Islamophobia could still be rationalized by any stretch of the formerly-brainwashed imagination. Do these self-styled “patriots” like Woolridge and Kidd STILL not know that the war on terror is a sham?

    As right as you are on all counts, something still doesn’t feel right about this whole Rense thing and I’m really hoping that it can be straightened out. Maybe I’m just being sentimental because my first exposure to Mark Glenn was – in fact – through Rense.com. And how grateful I am for that!

    I’ve never been a Rense subscriber, but it’s always been my impression that Jeff Rense is not so much a mind or personality of his own, nor is he a leader of any sort of movement; be it for or against anything. I have only ever perceived his website to be an aggregate news and commentary site (albeit with a big splash of weirdness in there too).

    This puts Rense into a stark, contrasting light with many of our more warm-blooded personalities (like yourself) who actually *are* leaders, on a mission to inform, challenge and inspire us all… such as you do. But Rense is maybe a little bit reminiscent of the guy who sells tickets to the final blockbuster of our time, “The End of the World As We Know It”.

    (Hmmm… maybe he’s a member of the tribe after all?)

    In any case, I’m not excusing what Rense is in any way, and I am most definitely not condoning the threats he made. All the points you’ve made about this situation are 100% valid. Threatening to use Big Brother’s alphabet soup of thug agencies is about the lowest, slimiest thing he could do. Here in the South we have some nice tall trees for traiterous cowards like that.

  87. #87 by Concrete man on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    The Irish Control the Media!


  88. #88 by Concrete man on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    Some observations:

    Rense is a good website as far an information clearinghouse, if you block all the kooky stuff about UFOs gettin’ yo” mama;

    In order for propaganda to work, there has to be a drawcard, and the fact that you can find many stories there serves that purpose;

    It is true that much of the information is negative and that has an effect, along with Rense’s general pessimistic tone, of spreading helplessness;

    Ironically the vast array of info also has the effect of confusing the main issue, which is JEWISH POWER. One of the only regular guests that is hard core on that issue is Tim Rifat, but much of what he talks about is out in left field, thus, giving the impression that anyone who really tackles the issue is a bit loopy (I actually find Rifat very funny and entertaining); Most of Rense’s guests do not talk about ZIonism let alone Judaism itself as the SOURCE of EVIL in our world (but lots of stories about Israel and Zionist crap, which we already know about);

    One of Rense’s new stars is Charlie McGrath, and I mean no ill will to Charlie, who does a fine job on his radio show. Charlie is a sharp tack and his guests offer a brilliant analysis. HOWEVER, it is very clear after listening to several of his broadcasts that no-way no-how are they EVER going to mention the 800,000 kilo Godzilla in the living room. This is especially ironic given that he and his guests so articulately explain the criminality of the US financial system (the same can be said about many economic commentators, people like Max Keiser and Michael Hudson come to mind, they have detailed analyses but would never ever utter a word against the JEWZ);

    Rense is not the only suspicious character on the net, the other day I was listening to RBN when a talk show host claimed that 800,000 children are kidnapped every year in the US, and in the context of that day’s topic it was clear the implication was that these children are being used in Satanic Sex Slave Rituals. However, when I quizzed the host for a citation all the person sent me was a link that explained that of the 800,000, – 58,000 were non family member related, and that most of the 742,000 are safely returned home. But this host insisted that I prove her wrong whereas she could not provide solid information to support such a bold claim. The point is, there is a helluva a lot of sloppy scholarship and BS out there on the internet and in Patriot Radio. Beware!

    Thank you for my long and dreary digression,

    I wish you and your family well, Mark

    Concrete man (yes, my real name)

  89. #89 by Joe on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    I used to be a Rense reader. Lately i have noticed a shift in his postings but have become so used to misdirection and bias i still kept up with his sight, until the issue with Gilad Atzmon. I am making no conclusions as to Gilad’s mission but censorship is abhorrent to me and Jeffs use of it to soften Gilads article was a direct attempt to misdirect his readers, imho anyway. That was enough for me to abandon his site permanently and tell him so.
    The issue discussed here is yet another nail in his “coffin”.Is it me or are these shills becoming easier to discern? Banning someone for sending too many e-mails? Please! ROTFLMAO!
    You all do understand that the jptb (judiac powers that be) are going to escalate their attacks on us. The sleeping giant of Yamamoto fame is waking. I saw this starting years ago and now it is gaining adherents almost exponentially. Their Sampson option is coming. I pray when they do take out multiple cities by explosives, poisoning water supplies and the very air and launching jewish, er dressed as Arabs terrorist assaults that enough of us will be vocal enough to incite the final purge. I see no other end to the jptb hold on us EXCEPT for us to grasp the simple reality that it is OUR use of their money, our acceptance of a re-presentation of our value by a medium they create, control and profit by that IS their power, ALL their power. WE are feeding them by placing our full faith and credit in their hands by using money, any money. This is a subject that is fraught with inculcated misbelief that money is required for survival, for society to work when it is only the fact that WE put OUR faith in money and give it OUR credit that it can function as a bloodline for evil, for judiacs. Once enough of us understand what judiasm is perhaps we will see money for what it is as well and then see the alternative come to light. This is what i truly pray for. The complete destruction of judiasm and judiacs without giving them the fight they want. Without ANY fight. Just our growing up and accepting the role of adults. After all the only role government plays is that of a parent, children need parenting, adults do not. Judiasm exists only because WE feed it by constantly acting on the misbelief that we cannot survive without their re-presentations of OUR value. The alternative may be too simple and straightforward for us to see at this time.

  90. #90 by kelley on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    Is it just me, or does it also seem possible that various web personalities (like Rense perhaps) may have *already* been hijacked and shut down in earnest by TPTB, yet they continue to operate on a less truthful, more propagandistic basis so as to minimize suspicion or alarm among the subscribers and followers?

    Ed Steele (prior to his being framed) comes to mind, as does Ken Adachi… both of whom had been featuring some hard-core truths on their websites in the past 2 years… both of whom went suddenly and uncharacteristically absent for some unusually long periods of time (2-3 months or more)… both of whom came back citing health problems as the reason for their absence… And neither of whom came back delivering the same quality or potency of their content. Almost like they are/were someone pretending to be them.

    Let’s face it – the fact that we are dealing within an anonymous, almost entirely Internet based medium here would make it extremely difficult to verify that we are communicating with the person we *think* we are communicating with. Proxy servers, fake IP addresses, voice-morphing…

    Unless one has a razor-sharp level of discernment and is generally aware of the counter-intelligence game ala “Protocols” style, how would we even know it if these personalities had been “replaced” by agents of deception?

    In the final analysis, I believe that following *people* or gurus of any flavor is a dangerous game right now, despite any perceptions of their credibility. Things can change quickly, and those who would be followers must step up to the plate and learn to think for themselves!

    Love to all,

  91. #91 by bearandblizz on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    my response to this e-mail I got

    they don’t get along. Why is that? You would think if they were all serving the same cause, they would unite and quit bickering and calling each other names.

    I like alan watt, he likes alex jones and goes on his show, but his own show is on RBN instead of GCN

    and alan watt says tasarion is a cia mole…I like them both but tasarion is a little out there and he charges like 600+ for his DVD set

    I like jack mclamb but theres another radio show host, cant remember his name, but he says jack is a fake)

    Dr. K is on RBN and I really like him, but some say he is a Jew mole

    I like Mark Glenn and Don of the idaho observer (Don passed away recently)

    freeman dont really give a shit about any of them….lol

    frank steffin knows why they all hate each other…he made a DVD about it, ill try to find it for you…his radio station is this

    piper loves wingtv but they hate alex jones

    rense dont like wingtv and used to like alex jones, but they got in a fight

    john steedmiller of RBN used to like jones, then they faught now there friendly

    lee rogers used to like jones, and left RBN with steedmiller dont reall like him now

    piper loves david duke but dont like hal turner and jeff rense

    wingtv used to bash alex jones and george noray until noray let them on coast to coast now they lick his boots

    rick stanley dont like jones, is so so on RBN but likes american voice radio

    american voice radio dont like RBN or alex jones

    as you can see nobody gets along….

    note from me, MG–au contraire my friend, I get along with LOTS of people.

    At the same time however, I take this whole business of life and death seriously and as such have no patience for screw ups where the end result is either life or death. Neither should you. Warsa aren’t lost because of bad soldiers, but rather bad generals and if we have a general here who is consorting with the enemy and making deals that can get us all killed, then he needs to go, or else taken off the battelfield and put in the kitchen peeling potatoes.

  92. #92 by The Avatar on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    is Concrete your first or last name? 🙂

    Cattle, thank you for clarifying my post where i said ..

    “When someone calls the FBI these dont come for “your family” they come for you if they find something “dangerous”


    “Yes, the FBI won’t come for Mark’s family they would come for him. But you can be sure that Child “Protective” Services would be there too. The FBI would arrest Mark on trumped up charges (an FBI specialty since they work for the ADL) and CPS agents would “arrest and detain” his 9 kids in one of their Soviet gulag/DHS reeducation camps.”
    That didnt occur to me, your right but what i was saying is that “Coming for your family” is a term used by thugs and gangsters
    and New York, Chicago Jews friends of Al Capone who died of syphilis

  93. #93 by The Avatar on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    Concrete i visited his site and youre right he has got very good people there;
    I wonder if they know their works is packed right next to UFO shit though.
    I dont know, but if i was Gilad or Paul Craig Roberts i wouldnt let him put it up

  94. #94 by paschn on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    “The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.”

    Vladimir Lenin

    “The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency.”

    Vladimir Lenin

    Think either of these apply to the collapse of imperialist, Jew lackey U.S. of Israel?

    Ever read all or part of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,(insert Khazar Jews)

  95. #95 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    Concrete man October 14, 2010 at 8:10 am


    (I normally avoid forums like this because of idiots like you).

    I understand you are not a very pleasant person so will refrain from talking to you in the future.

    Peace, Concrete man (my real name)”

    The parents who have christened you “Concrete man” must have been from Mars! calling me an idiot (which you can never prove) just prove that your brain must not be in the usual place!

    You should have learned how to spot idiots like me and thus avoid making a fool of yourself!

    I have dealt with entities like you in the past and they are alike. I asked to shut it up, and you have now proved me right “Concrete man”!



  96. #96 by Concrete man on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    Dear Basheer,

    Lighten up dude.

    Best, CM

  97. #97 by Concrete man on 10/15/2010 - 9:34


    I have often wondered as well what these really serious political analyst type of folks think of all of Rense’s silly nonsense about Lizard People and UFO’s gettin’ yo( mama. At one moment he is interviewing someone about paranormal phenomenon and the next in a sober interview about Afganistan. It is very odd indeed. I think we are all being duped!

    Concrete man

  98. #98 by Ed Lewis on 10/16/2010 - 9:34


    Man, you have no idea of what you write about. The Israelites were not the jews – in fact the term “jew” did not exist until fairly recent times. See Benjamin Freedman.

    The followers of the traditions of men began in the time of the Pharisees, in roughly 125 B.C. when Herod killed Hyrcanus and took on the role of the Israelites. The first man of men that are called Jews – either Edomites or Khazarians (see the Encyclopedia Judaica and Koestler’s “The Thirteenth Tribe”) was the first Edomite man ordered circumcised in 121 B.C.

    Jewism was then created but were not called Jews for many centuries – I think but could have the year wrong – in about the 14th Century A.D.

    In 745 A.D., the Khazarian Mongols (also contained some Hitite and Japhite blood – in other words – mongrels of mixed blood) took on judaism as their religion, as it went along with their blood thirsty psychopathic behaviors.
    Now, 90 to 95 percent of those called “jews” are Khazarian Ashkenazim so-called Jews.

    The Sephardim Jews are also not of the Adamic line, and are not of the House of Judah or the House of Israel. They are the Edomites and Idumeans of Herod’s time, and are of mixed blood.

    These people pretend to be of the House of Judah and have carried out one of the greatest frauds against mankind and goodness that has ever been or will ever be carried out.

    If you do not believe it, then talk to your Jewish friends and get them to talk about facts, not their false beliefs, such as those you spout out of ignorance and bigotry.

    The Zionist evil is primarily from the Khazarian line and I do not believe that rank and file so-called Jews are no different than any of the rest of us.
    They let their leadership destroy and so do we, as Zionist control of our government has our people doing their slaughter for them, not for our freedom or for the freedom of those the US attacks and slaughters.

    You should, before writing any more of your crap, do some valid research and accept the truth and quite defending the lies and immorality of Zionist Judaism, which is following the leadership of Lucifer.

    Those that defend the madmen, such as Rense and dozens of other so-called “truth” sites do nothing more than spout and defend the Zionists and their secular State of Israel. They pit Christians against Muslims and you idiots cannot seem to see this after being blinded by Zionist propaganda that has fooled the world into believing their made up “chosen people” bullshit.
    They aren’t, except by Satan, and the truth will out, and you, along with the rest of us, will suffer terribly. So will the Muslims just as they now are.
    It is coming here rapidly, so just take a good look at Palestine, Iraq, and Afghanistan for a preview.

    And, until you know the truth, just shut up with your defense of the NOT chosen ones because Eli James has the evidence and can back up everything he writes and says, while you have nothing – not one fact – that supports the Israelis or any other so-called Jew as Israelites or the House of Judah. Quite frankly we do not need comments based on ignorance and the unwillingness to actually research multiple sources.

    –note from me, Mg–it is important to keep in mind as we wade through all this “khazar vs sephardim” business that it was not the Khazars who killed Jesus. It DOES NOT MATTER what kind of blood they have in their veins, but rather what thoughts and feelings course through their hearts and minds. If a Chinaman adopts Judaism and as a result starts acting like Alan Dershowitz or Abe Foxman or Caiphas or WHOEVER, it does not matter.

  99. #99 by jewbela on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    He is a fag.

  100. #100 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    Concrete man October 15, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    Dear Basheer,

    “Lighten up dude.”

    With me, entities like you will never have the last word, you, “IDIOT”!

    Maybe you are also blind not to have noticed that I am no more commenting here. I left it to your swaggering talents to deal with Jeff Rense!

    In France, we call entities like you the “maggot in the fruit”. In India, they say “fly in the milk”! And, there is worse! Just keep on provoking me! I enjoy some relaxation time!


    note from me, MG–Fellas, you are both friends of mine, and from my vantage point, this little spat has begun out of a misunderstanding. Knowing both of you as well as I do, I can tell you that there is no reason for either of you to harbor any animosity towards the other. Please shake hands and bury the hatchet. You know not what you do.

  101. #101 by cattle on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    Mark Glenn, I’m disappointed to see you won’t accept Pastor Eli James’ offer to a debate and dismiss Christian Identity as “nonsense.” I hope, in the interest of the search for truth, you’ll reconsider.

  102. #102 by Randa on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    If only it were a just Jew thing. The Beast could then be named and thus destroyed.

    “……all things move within your being in constant half embrace, the desired and the dreaded, the repugnant and the cherished, the pursued and that which you would escape.

    These things move within you as lights and shadows in pairs that cling.

    And when the shadow fades and is no more, the light that lingers becomes a shadow to another light.

    And thus your freedom when it loses its fetters becomes itself the fetter of greater freedom.”

    Kahlil Gibran

  103. #103 by Phillip F Tourney on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    When a person goes off on you and threatens your well being and your family’s it shows me a side of Rense that is very shallow and most importantly afraid of your more importantly your words.
    Mark a mouse can be a dangerous animal if cornered or hurt I am not comparing you to a mouse but I think you see were I am going with this.
    After reading your open letter and the response’s from your supporters I would make sure he gets them all.
    This is just my advice I would not let up I would demand an open apology from him make him aware if he prints anti Muslim articles or has guests come on his show that is of his own doing. If people get mad at him that isn’t your fault or problem.Also if he were a good American he would use his efforts to bring justice to the USS LIBERTY CREW and America that is my two cents worth today.
    Good luck,
    Phil Tourney
    Survivor, USS LIBERTY

  104. #104 by randall on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    Okay, I just have to chime in, because the whole thing is very frustrating.
    First, I’d to take to task the people who cite UFO posts as “kooky”, weird,
    or disinfo.
    PLEASE, you’re talking out of ignorance with a pre-conceived bias, JUST LIKE
    those who believe the Official 911 story, and call us “truffers”.
    This issue has been with us for thousands of years. There is actually about
    50 times more factual evidence for the reality of this phenomena than 911.
    Idiots like Rivero who scoff and ridicule this issue, are only exposing the fact that they are capable of apriori denial of a mind made up- which is exactly what those who deny the reality of 911 truth do.
    NASA official video tapes of these craft alone should be enough for any thinking person.
    Just these alone are a start: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbPR1yI3XSI

    And these are just .001% of what’s out there, and I personally have been looking into it for over 40 years.
    That aside, I am flabbergasted concerning Jeff Rense threatening to call
    the Jewish Squads of Doom.
    I have no doubt that MG is telling the truth, and must conclude that JR
    has sold out.
    I personally take that sort thing like a death threat.
    Look at Edgar Steel. These Fed groups will kill you, your children or set you up at the drop of a hat.
    Shit, common cops are killing civilians left and right these days, without fear of consequences.
    Use discernment these days. Use pattern recognition skills like an intelligence dude would.
    LOSE the psychology of Cult Amerikanus, which is no different than the
    psychology of Tom Cruise and John Travolta vis a vis Scientology- it just a bigger cult, and were the official “deprogrammers.

    –note from me, MG–Firstly, Mike Rivero is no ‘idiot’. He is one of the brightest minds in our ‘movement’ and just because he prefers not to deal with the UFO thing (as I don’t, given that it gets us NOWHERE in understanding and solving the REAL problem we are dealing with here, namely the madness of Jewish thinking) this does not reflect badly on him at all. In fact, those who DO make discussion of the ‘paranormal’ a disproportionate amount of the discussion are in my opinion a liability. How are we to attract ANY substantive numbers of people to our side when we throw into the mix discussions concerning bigfoot, nessie, crop circles and a bunch of other bullshit that clogs up, confuses and frustrates an otherwise productive discussion? People (like Rense) who promote this stuff are giving the mainstream media a baseball bat to beat us to death with. Let’s deal with the paranormal issue LATER after we have gotten the vampire’s fangs off our neck.

    As far as your assertion that Rense has “gone over’ I think he ALWAYS WAS there in a sense. The only difference between a sapling and its big brother is time, as they are essentially the same species of tree whose differences are only temporary. In the emails I have gotten from him as of late, he has made it clear that he does not consider himself to be just a cog in the wheel, but rather the machine itself and that the rest of us are just incidental hangers on.

    This being the case, the controversy he and I have had as of late he views as a mortal threat to the movement itself, being that he sees himself as the head of that movement and the tip of the spear. That he would choose to go to the enemy however in dealing with it rather than on the merits of his own argument is the lynch pin in understanding the danger he poses to all of us. He is a prime candidate for recruitment by groups such as the ADL, SPLC and every government agency imaginable in terms of turning over info on those of us (whose names, email addresses, home addresses, phone numbers, etc) he has collected over the years.

  105. #105 by Randa on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    I’m with you Randall on the UFO/Alien thing. For the life of me I can’t understand the lack of awareness given the over abundance of evidence. But then I saw a mothership which was as wide as the horizon (towards Antarctica) when I was living in New Zealand and I spoke (telephathically) to a group of about 7-8 of these very short dudes. Anyone who denies extraterrestrial existence needs to step away from the computer and look up.

    I like Mike Rivero, but his experience working for NASA probably tainted his view. Most people have forgotten to look up. I love you Mark Glenn, but I assure you we pipsqueak humans are not at the top of the food chain. There are very powerful (hostile) aliens and many have taken over the bodies of those in charge here on Earth. Hence, zionism.

    They even look reptilian.

    So if you want to go wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down the rabbit hole and find the “source” of all the madness, open up to the extraterrestrial agenda because that is they nightmare we are now living.

    –note from me, MG–I am not denying the existence of extraterrestrial life. That is not the point. The point here is getting as many people as possibleout in the streets protesting and making noise and we are definitely NOT going to achieve that by delving into the space alien/reptilian/men in black aspect to all this.

    “KISS”–“keep it simple, stupid”, and old term the military uses often.

    We are dealing with a stupid american people, so if we are going to wage a SUCCESSFUL campaign, we MUST appeal to their tastes, and right now it ain’t ET.


  106. #106 by zannia on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    Can we keep the alien agenda where it belongs, please? Try Coast to Coast AM.

  107. #107 by randall on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    I disagree.
    First because all repressed truth is repressed for a reason, and the issue of
    ufos (which Rivero DOES deal with- with ridicule) will be a tool they will use
    against us in the future, and unless people are prepared, they’ll be so shocked
    that they’ll forget all about the Judaic issue.
    What event would cause the world to unite as One? An outside threat. they will use it, because it’s now going semi-mainstream with news about nuclear silos etc.
    Stuff I knew about before any internet existed, that is spoke about on cnbc.

    What is “paranormal” about it?
    Two NASA astronauts have spoken up. My own father told me confirmation
    42 years after the fact, what he was told by a Col. from wright Patterson AFB,
    it was like, “Oh, by the way.. He didn’t have interest in such things.
    The deal in NM.
    See, I have a parallel problem with Rivero on this issue, because I believe it to be important, just as you do (and I) with Rense letting DV Kidd and others post their Islamophobic crap.

    –note from me, and the LAST one dealing with this issue–

    Randal et al, we are like teachers to a bunch of 2nd grade students. The alien business is something for advanced, college-level mathmatics, not kindergarten level 2+2=4. Make the american people understand FIRST AND FOREMOST that there is something wrong with their world. Then, step by step, build on that. LATER, AFTER THEY HAVE GRASPED THE BASIC CONCEPTS, then you can get into the alien stuff, but if you try to do it WHILE THEY REMAIN AT AN ELEMENTARY LEVEL all you will succeed in doing is frightening them right back into the arms of individuals such as O’Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc, etc, etc.

    If this basic concept of protocol needs any more explanation to you than this I’m afraid I don’t know what to tell you, because it’s as simple as pouring piss out of a boot with the directions on the heel.

  108. #108 by randall on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    Oh, and Regan used this metaphor about 12 different times in speeches to the UN and elsewhere.

  109. #109 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 10/16/2010 - 9:34


    note from me, MG–Fellas, you are both friends of mine, and from my vantage point, this little spat has begun out of a misunderstanding. Knowing both of you as well as I do, I can tell you that there is no reason for either of you to harbor any animosity towards the other. Please shake hands and bury the hatchet. You know not what you do.

    IT’S ALL RIGHT WITH ME, MARK! Our friend made me take a rest for a couple of days and it was great.

    “You know not what you do.” I WISH I KNEW!


  110. #110 by scousekraut on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    My first post. I would like to relate a short story. Some years ago when still in the learning curve about what was really going on in our world I posted on a message board a comment and a link to Rense. Almost immediately another poster came back with the comment: “What Rense, UFO’s?”

    I realised that this was one of the tricks used to dismiss possible good information or opinion. A version of the “guilt by association” trick. Ignore the argument and use association as a diversion. The most common trick of course is “attack the messenger”.

    It has been clear to me for a long, long time that there was something fishy about Rense. Apart from the “mixing” of themes to frighten people away he also pushes virus theories down your throat, something about which I know a lot about, unlike UFO’s and Crop Circles which I have not investigated. During the bird flu and swine flu scares his site was giving an almost daily update. This is a form of fear mongering that is also common in the MSM.

    So apart from mixing lots of themes to frighten the newcomer away he helps to spread fear through a variety of means including the recent Muslim bashing but also “The swine flu is going to get you” kind of fear mongering. It is quite clever when you think about it and it takes some time and experience to learn these tricks yourself.

    Over a long period of time I have learnt to question everything and everybody and form my own opinions based on intensive research and always to be prepared to change them. Nobody can research everything as it is time intensive but there are core issues such as the Money Power and the influence of the Israeli Lobby that I believe are essential to understanding our complex world.

    Also as a lot of this stuff can be quite depressing, it is important that we are able to detach ourselves from it and still enjoy life and remain positive. The fight between good and evil has been going on forever and will continue long after we have gone.

  111. #111 by Randa on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    Coast-to-Coast has absolutely nothing to do with UFO/Extraterrestrial awareness. Total Freemasonry. Total disinformation and satanism.

    If you want to know about the great big bloody secret of Zionism, get over your fear of aliens. They are among you in a very big way. EVERYTHING in this world is based upon an “Alien” agenda.

    Don’t be stubborn, it will free you.

    What I did neglect to mention is that there are very powerful “Aliens” who are from the True Source, the True God (not the jerk who created this world), True Divine Mind.

    This is the puzzle piece which you are missing. The Jew crap is a diversion.

  112. #112 by Craig Pepe on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    What I did neglect to mention is that there are very powerful “Aliens” who are from the True Source, the True God (not the jerk who created this world), True Divine Mind.

    well, if u were interested in the true divine mind, as u call it, you would listen to the God of the Bible, who sent his son our Lord Jesus Christ to forgive all of your sins, so that u can get to heaven and have eternal life, and then once u are counted worthy of eternal life ,then you can talk to God about whatever other cool stuff might be out there

  113. #113 by Randa on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    Dude, the Bible was written by hostile aliens (the Annunaki). I totally agree with you about Christ Jesus…..oh my God….purity of Mind and Love.

    But the Bible? Are you aware that Christ Jesus had absolutely NOTHING to do with that writing? It is disguisting. It is dark and ugly and aggressive.

    Christ Jesus was the greatest INSURGENT who ever existed and S/He exists to this very day. As it happens, the Christ Jesus is now embodied in the form a female human body. Which quite honestly, is why we are even having this conversation.

    If you really love THE DUDE, be open to all possibilities. Never underestimate the power of a Lebanese, or the power of a woman.

    Just be cool.

  114. #114 by Concrete man on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    To; BAFS

    Sorry to you for any misunderstanding and for calling you and idiot and calling you an unpleasant person, you are obviously very smart and pleasant– and very sorry for pointing out the French role in causing WWII! (see AJP Taylor, The Origins of WWII)

    Thank you for the colorful appellation “maggot in the yogurt” line, I love it. Will carry that as a badge of honor.

    I do admire the French for getting out on the streets and protesting the attacks on the welfare of their society by the Jewish Power mongers.

    To; Rand

    OK, so many ETs do exist but I have always regarded that as a “not very much I can do about it issue” whereas in theory the US citizens could revoke AIPACs license to lobby the US government. To say “The Jew crap is a diversion” sounds like about the dumbest thing I have read on this forum to date.

  115. #115 by Craig Pepe on 10/17/2010 - 9:34

    The point here is getting as many people as possible out in the streets protesting and making noise

    protesting,making noise and sending u money, so that you can do the important work of getting people out in the streets to protest and make noise

  116. #116 by Craig Pepe on 10/17/2010 - 9:34

    Randa, your presence makes Mark Glenn, look like a fake game player
    Mark, why do u keep him/her around?

    –note from me, MG–I get heat because of YOU as well, whose comments oftentimes make me look like a supporter of close-mindedness, but you are still posting here. Randa happens to be like a sister to me, and although we do not necessarily see eye to eye on certain points dealing with mysticism, we do agree on enough things to make it a working relationship.


  117. #117 by Craig Pepe on 10/17/2010 - 9:34

    we do not necessarily see eye to eye on certain points ,

    yeah ,

    as a Christian, which you claim to be, you wouldnt see eye to eye with someone that refers to God Almighty as “the jerk who created the universe”

    note from me, MG–I think the point she was trying to make is that the “god” as described in the ewish bible–venegeful, petty, vindictive, etc, is not the “god” who created the universe as we know it.

  118. #118 by daniel on 10/17/2010 - 9:34

    even extra terrestrials dont want israel to have nukes !

  119. #119 by The Avatar on 10/17/2010 - 9:34

    I dont know about you but these are the places i like;
    The truth seeker
    The ugly truth
    Smoking mirrors
    What really happened
    Aletho news
    Intifada palestine
    Press tv
    and the one and only ..

    Gilaaaaaaaaad …

    any suggestions ?

  120. #120 by paschn on 10/17/2010 - 9:34

    This old dog is still a bit naive to the many info sites so ready to, (as Vladimir Lenin put it), lead the opposition. I follow this fellow closely and find his reads pleasant and succinct, also first hand.


    He has written a very well thought out book re; the real evil empire, (Israel).
    also, he is the survivor of several Mossad attacks. If you can, visit his site and any book purchases you need to make, consider making them from his site.
    I’m sure he could use the support. He’s living as a refugee from the long Khazar arm.

    Rense.com is no longer on my list of sites.

    Thanks folks

  121. #121 by Concrete man on 10/17/2010 - 9:34

    Michael Collins Piper, The Piper Report, weekly one our broadcast on RBN, The Republic Broadcasting Network.
    See also: Rick Adams Uncensored on RBN, along with Heshim Tellawi, Current Issues, and Wayne Madsen Saturday Roundup also on RBN…

    Piper is an amazing source of history, he constantly buys books exposing the hidden history of Jewish Intrigue…

  122. #122 by Concrete man on 10/17/2010 - 9:34

    sorry I forgot this Avatar: iamthewitness.com

    a must see!

  123. #123 by The Avatar on 10/17/2010 - 9:34

    PTT (Palestine Think Tank) is what i meant to write in the list above
    grrr still making typos
    after all this years
    i also visit Judicial Inc when its not down
    ´cause am a little crazy too

    hey at least he doesnt talk about no UFO´s

    🙂 🙂 🙂

  124. #124 by Craig Pepe on 10/17/2010 - 9:34

    you shouldnt refer to yourself as a Christian

    its misleading to believers

    –note from me, MG–I AM a Christian, you perfectly pompous ass and I don’t need you or anyone else to tell me differently. Why don’t you next challenge my ethnicity as well, since you are such an authority?

    This was what I referred to in a previous post about how you make this wesbite appear with your small-minded comments. You are an embarassment to any intelligent conversation and it is people like you who make Christians look like clowns.

  125. #125 by zannia on 10/17/2010 - 9:34

    UK Schools Giving Classes in UFO Drills

    Looks like PSYOPS to me! The “alien invasion” is coming!


  126. #126 by GTRman on 10/17/2010 - 9:34

    Concrete man said: “One of the only regular guests that is hard core on that issue is Tim Rifat, but much of what he talks about is out in left field, thus, giving the impression that anyone who really tackles the issue is a bit loopy (I actually find Rifat very funny and entertaining)”

    I agree. Rifat really rips into “The Jews”. He appears very knowledgable about certain issues. Unfortunatley he also comes over as paranoid schizophrenic, at best. Very entertaining though, I agree. His appearances on Rense are quite hard to find on the net. (I dont use torrents) A nutty site called TwoWitnesses often put up his stuff as an Mp3. Do you know any others?

    Thanks, Gtrman

  127. #127 by The Avatar on 10/18/2010 - 9:34

    I almost forgot
    Mantyq al tayr
    Sorry about that

  128. #128 by Joe America on 10/18/2010 - 9:34

    Rense vs. alex jones is like “pro” wrestling. I still grab some anti-Israel content off Rense.com to spread around, but the rest is a waste. Sooner or later the truth comes out, just like alex jones is now nothing more than a laugh. LOL!

    Keep on with the truth. It’s gaining every day! 🙂

  129. #129 by Concrete man on 10/18/2010 - 9:34

    I don’t know of any places to download Rifat’s rants, sorry.

    By the way, it is true David Duke doesn’t talk much about 911 and does imply it was by the official story. I think David needs to get up to speed on that aspect. A bit Ron Paulish of him.

    David Duke is great when it comes to documenting Jewish Double Standards though.

  130. #130 by bearandblizz on 10/18/2010 - 9:34

    Since I refuse cable and TV
    I listen to all and just “pull the weeds” Nobody is telling the truth 100% of the time and rense has his disclaimers like most all do.

    Everyone is human and everyone makes some mistakes, either in error or on purpose to make a buck, advertising comes to mind.

    Ive talked to a few hosts on a few shows that were in
    troubled times, maybe drunk and they said some fowl
    things. Ive even talked to an owner of a truth network that was drunk and out of control. This incident with rense seems over the top, but even Jesus would

    lets move on
    or I guess if you must, dont continue to LIVE IN DRAMA

    Im glad I got this information, I will store it in my memory brain, and
    next time im on rense.com website I will always remember it.

    and thank you MG for what you do as well…most of us that listen to RBN miss you very much.

    –note from me, MG–TB, as always, I appreciate your comments and the energy upstairs that creates them.

    This is not an issue of holding grudges or bruised feelings. If that were the case, I would never get anything done. I am a very forgiving man and the fact is I hate intra-family contention.

    The issue here is one of trust. When someone such as Rense threatens to bring down upon one of us the very same dangerous people we are all risking our lives to fight, he can’t be trusted. Today it is me, tomorrow it is you, etc,etc,etc. And he obviously has no qualms about it as he refuses to even acknowledge that it took place, other than to speak cryptically on his radio show how these are “crazy” times.

    Yes, crazy indeed, when someone of his caliber resorts to something as low as becoming a snitch and informer for our enemies.

  131. #131 by anon on 10/18/2010 - 9:34

    If you’re reading this Mr. Rense, you might want to consider what kind of element has compromised your dignity. Consider this revealing quote from ~ Marcus Eli Ravage, Century Magazine, February 1926.:
    “You have not begun to appreciate the depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom of not merely the latest Great War, but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.”

    Love, honor and respect for you, Mark Glenn, Phil Tourney, Mark Dankof, Nashid Abdul Khaaliq, and to all courageous warriors of conscience. I love America more than my life. It breaks my heart that it might become necessary for us to expatriate from this perverted Hamlet in order to live like Americans elsewhere.

    Mr. Rense, who are you?

  132. #132 by bearandblizz on 10/18/2010 - 9:34

    “Yes, crazy indeed, when someone of his caliber resorts to something as low as becoming a snitch and informer for our enemies.”

    You know the thing seems so strange, I wouldnt put it past the
    CIA or Massad etc that could have easily used a phone device
    to fool you into thinking that you were indeed talking to Jeff Rense,
    and had this conversation.

    Mark, you have always been in the crossfire of the evil that controls this
    government, Im sure Jeff Rense isnt in charge of any of all that.

    What could you have possibly said that pissed mr. rense off so bad that he
    would threaten you with going to this government, he posts a lot of your articles and has never put your items in bad light.

    Im confused, but still a listener and learner of truth.

    –note from me, MG–C’mon B&B, now you’re really reaching…

    Remember, this began over 4 weeks ago when Rense had David Duke call me PERSONALLY to try and intercede on his behalf, which I found highly unusual, since Rense is a grown man and should be able to handle his own issues. And NO, it was not a voice software job making it SOUND like David Duke, because he was just up here visiting me a few weeks ago where we discussed this very issue face to face.

    Now, on the day in question when I got the call where it was made clear to me that Rense was planning to call the FBI, it was again David Duke calling me on behalf of Rense. I then called Rense myself PERSONALLY where he added that not only was he going to call the FBI, but DHS as well.

    It was not voice software, it was Mr Hairdo himself. He has an ego problem and can’t deal with people disagreeing with him, and now that he is getting emails from angry Muslims telling him they plan to contact his advertizers and organize a boycott because of his anti-Islamic articles, he is seeing $ signs vanish before his eyes, and therefore thought that by threatening me that somehow I would back down and that the angry MOOOZLEMS would leave him alone.

    If you have any questions or doubts about this, why not contact Duke or Rense and ask them personally?

  133. #133 by paschn on 10/18/2010 - 9:34

    Sorry, I don’t want to anger or hurt anyone, but in my opinion, those three words; “let’s move on”, have done more to rot this country from the inside, make evil good, up down, white black than any others.
    “Let’s move on” allows those responsible for much evil and suffering to avoid the just consequences of their evil. A much more needed and proper mantra, (especially for this pathetic nation), would be; “YOU WILL PAY!”


    I wonder, shall we, standing near the parents, loved ones of the thousands of victims of benevolent U.S. government’s and Bayer’s evil tell them, “let’s move on”?

  134. #134 by Clarkpatterson on 10/18/2010 - 9:34

    Rense is great and very fair!The best on the net, you are a squeeky twister of lies, over populating the planet, with more morons.What articles were lies he just runs articles in the news, what are these articles, go on tell us? So we can make up our own minds? Frosty Wooldrige is man of honour and integrity you slander another good man.

    Oh you wont post this like my last post either, NO posts will get on your biased board.

    But I’m going to start a blog about your BS!

    Note from me, MG–Good, you wrote back, as I had deleted your comment without intending to and wanted to address your assertions.

    As far as the pieces he runs, I can’t say what kind of nonsense he has posted as of late as I don’t visit his site. The piece however that was the spark for all this business was entitled Demoting Islam’s Religious Status,” written by an obvious pro-Israel/pro-war shill named by Martel Sobieskey. In addition to this, he has headlined in recent months articles written by the airhead Devvy Kidd, one of which entitled “Islam, A Cancer Oozing Across America” and then another piece of toilet content dealing with Sharia law that were an absolute embarrassment to anyone with 3 functioning brain cells and the ability to do even elementary level research.

    Now, as far as your previous assertion that all this controversy was the result of Rense not running one of my articles, you obviously are one of his hirelings, lackeys, or just plain stupid, as over the years has was run virtually ALL the pieces I have written, something easily discovered by doing a simple search of his site. What I have forfeited in going against him as a result of his insistence for running the kinds of anti-Islamic, neocon/Zionist nonsense is nothing short of formidable, as him linking to my pieces generally brings somewhere between 10-15,000 hits to my website. This doesn’t matter to me. His site could bring a billion hits and I would still oppose him just as loudly as I am now because what is at stake here is principle.

    Now, your assertion that I am “overpopulating the planet” with “morons,” (obviously referring to my 9 extremely intellectually-gifted children) and that “Frosty” is a “good” man proves that you are the kind of backwards, bigoted, intellectually-challenged freak-show display that is the natural by-product of the kind of material Rense runs on his site, so all I can say to you for making statements like these (and by default proving all my assertions correct) is a simple THANK YOU.

    Start a blog about my BS? Before you do that, perhaps you should ask Mr Hairdo himself JR whether or not he indeed DID make threats to call the FBI and DHS before you do so. THAT should be the issue of interest here, not whether or not I am “overpopulating the planet.”


  135. #135 by AA on 10/18/2010 - 9:34

    Hi Mark,

    I’ve been following the issue w/ Rense and I want to thank you for exposing that egomaniac Rense. He has been using his platform to delude people and those UFOs, aliens, and crop circles serve only to turn 75% of people away from the truth and the 25% of people who are able to withstand that initial onslaught get poisoned w/ Islamophobia. He is clearly part of the 2nd line of defense of delusion.

    One thing I’ve always wondered is why he is so focused on BIGFOOT when BIGFOOT is not harming anybody. Why don’t we leave ‘BIGFOOT’ alone until he starts harming us or our children?


  136. #136 by GTRman on 10/18/2010 - 9:34

    paschn – Evil Zogbot Tony Blair was VERY fond of using the phrase, “Lets move on”. Also “Lets draw a line under this and move on” “Move forward”.

    He also used a hand movement which more and more politicians are using, namely the “thumb jab” -holding the hand out, fingers clenched, thumb uppermost and protruding. Think “holding an invisible fishing rod”.

    I assume these techniques are straight out of NLP, “Neuro-liguistic programming”.

    Lets NOT move on, you BAS+++D! You just killed a million people!

  137. #137 by Arthur on 10/18/2010 - 9:34

    quote from you respecting an article by Devvy Kidd entitled “Islam, A Cancer Oozing Across America”

    It’s factually and graphically true that a cancer-like phenomenon has been occurring in the USA for a very long time now. Judging from the research I’ve been able to find it began well before Columbus set forth on his historic trip to the Americas.

    It was there wending it’s way throughout the body politic during Jefferson’s time and manifesting in the that major hemorrhage of the 1866’s known as the American Civil War.

    By President Wilson’s day it had basically spread throughout the U.S. state dept. and all the successive policies (both domestic and foreign) of the White House and State Department since that period have been overshadowed by this cursed and criminal cancer.

    Today, thanks to the medicinal and healing properties of the www we can see its outlines and effects clearly delineated. It’s the disease known as political Zionism.

    The remedy? More expose to the clear light of truth!

  138. #138 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 10/18/2010 - 9:34

    Concrete man October 16, 2010 at 11:46 pm

    “To; BAFS

    Sorry to you for any misunderstanding and for calling you and idiot and calling you an unpleasant person, you are obviously very smart and pleasant– and very sorry for pointing out the French role in causing WWII! (see AJP Taylor, The Origins of WWII)

    Thank you for the colorful appellation “maggot in the yogurt” line, I love it. Will carry that as a badge of honor.”

    As a matter of fact, I am the “maggot in the yoghurt”, here. So, I had to let you sort out Jeff Rense among yourselves!

    In the mean time, I have been trying to sort out who is really genuine amongst those earthlings:

    “Christopher Bollyn, Germar Rudolf, Ernst Zundel, Fredrick Toben, Mark Glenn, Mark Farrell, David Irving, David Duke, Mike Piper, Jack Blood, Mike Berger, Phil Berg, Victor Thorn aka Scott Makufka, Jim Hoffman, Wayne Madsen, Kurt Nimmo, Webster Tarpley, Frank Whalen, Willis Carto, Christopher Petherick, John Stadtmiller, Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Andrew Hitchcock, William Rodriguez, Mike Rivero, Ellen Mariani, Rebecca Cerese, Frank Weltner, Steven Jones, Kevin Ryan, Ingrid Rimland, Chris Jon Bjerknes, Hesham Tillawi, Rick Adams, Edgar Steele, Laura Knight-Jadczyk, Jim Marrs, Fred Burks, Lisa Pease, Jenna Orkin, Marsha McClelland, William Lewis, Ted Pike, Carlos Porter, Peter Kawaja, Peter Shank, Leuren Moret, Daryl Bradford Smith, David Ray Griffin, Bob Bowman, Mark Fuhrman, Gerald Posner, Vincent Bugliosi, Ron Paul, Suzette Bates, Cindy Sheehan, Gerhard Frey, Rosie O’Donnell, Sofia Smallstorm, John Kaminski, Alex Floum, Ry Dawson, Charlie Sheen, Arthur Silber, Justin Raimondo, le président Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, etc.”

    And a few hundreds more! But, this will take me to the grave because I undestand what is TRUE and what is FALSE and who are the real Judas! I understand why Tibetan monks used to stay on top of their mountains, but even that was not the right thing to do because the jews got to them too, I mean the Chinese financed by the Jews!


  139. #139 by Hamid on 10/18/2010 - 9:34

    There was reference made in a comment above about chemtrails. A week ago G.Edward Griffin and Mt. Shasta filmmaker Mike Murphy were on C2C with Noory for 3 excellent hours. They have produced a new chemtrails video due for release any day now, called “What In The World Are They Spraying”, read about it at realityzone.com. I hope it’s made free to watch on youtube. Here’s a zip file with the 3 C2C MP3 files, about 40 mins each as they’re commercial free, http://www.sendspace.com/file/j17axl

    Mr. Glenn, I love your stuff, and I have become a regular visitor here in recent months, also propagating your links elsewhere. But a comment you’ve made above has stuck in my craw. You’ve stated that “the facts of the matter” re Bollyn’s skirmish with police was… then you repeat the police version verbatim. From what I’ve seen of Bollyn, I find that story highly implausible, and assuming you weren’t there, why do you bear witness to “the facts of the matter” when you’re only sharing your apparent belief? I know Bollyn’s milked it for PR somewhat, with the prominent arm-splint photo at his site, but his work appears to me to be of high integrity, and your going out on a limb re what did/didn’t happen in that police skirmish, shows you attacking other patriots in the comments of an article bemoaning infighting & divisiveness. I don’t know what bad blood resulted from your mutual time at AFP, and I’m aware Piper and Bollyn disparage each other as well reflecting an obvious personal feud, but can we somehow stay “above it all”?

    –note from me, MG–

    Hamid, firstly, thank you for the good words–Always appreciated.

    As far as the great Bollyn controversy, no, I was not there, at his altercation with the police, but what I WAS witness to as far as the outright lies he told about AFP and Mike Piper, who is as close to me as a brother, indicates to me that he cannot be believed on anything. The things he he said are SO far ‘out there’ in terms of untruth that he isn’t even MILDLY right. Besides this, for nearly a year he buddy-buddied himself with two characters who made it a DAILY part of their business to accuse m of being a paid assassin of both the Mossad and CIA. Now, it is true that he never engaged in this himself, but more often then not you are judged by the company you keep, and with this in mind I cannot arrive at any other conclusion than that his version of events viz a viz his run in with the police is not ‘accurate’.

  140. #140 by Craig Pepe on 10/18/2010 - 9:34

    I understand why Tibetan monks used to stay on top of their mountains, but even that was not the right thing to do because the jews got to them too, I mean the Chinese financed by the Jews!

    care to explain and elaborate?

  141. #141 by GTRman on 10/19/2010 - 9:34

  142. #142 by Concrete man on 10/19/2010 - 9:34

    To BAFS;

    Glad we can now be friends, from one maggot to another. Pardon my sardonic attitude I need to clean up my act.

    Very interesting list of folks, I would definitely take what some (not all) of these green lizard people say with a grain of salt, followed by a couple of very large Margaritas.

    And now this:

    Maurice Samuel’s twenty-one words: “We Jews, the destroyers, will remain the destroyer forever . . . nothing that the Gentiles will do will meet our needs and demands”.


    Reed’s book is out of print (for some odd, inexplicable reason that I cannot fathom), but you can get soft covered volumes at amazon for a price not too astronomically expensive. Or read it at iamthewitness.com

    Kevin Barrett interviews former Michigan representative Mark Siljander. Siljander’s newest book details the incredible number of similarities and complements between Christianity and Islam. While Islamophobia sweeps the Christian world, nothing could be further from the truth and more destructive for world peace.

    10/16/2010 Saturday – 1st Hour: With Mark Siljander. http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/Barrett_10.html

    Years ago I learned many of these things from Nashid via emails that he provided me for a class I teach. But to hear it from a White Christian, and a politician to boot, is really enlightening and unique.

  143. #143 by Hamid on 10/19/2010 - 9:34

    MG said re Bollyn: “Besides this, for nearly a year he buddy-buddied himself with two characters who made it a DAILY part of their business to accuse m of being a paid assassin of both the Mossad and CIA.”

    I’d guess you’re referring to DBS and Huffy? These 3 fell out years ago, and still trade “shill!” accusations. Just today 10/18 Bollyn has another Huffy hit piece (Murdoch connection), and Huffy already has a reply at his site, still spewing his noise about how Bollyn’s been “kidnapped”, with nothing substantial to back this claim, he just keeps repeating it year in & year out, sewing baseless doubt. And Bollyn’s new Huffy hit piece also takes another shot at Piper. DBS doesn’t play well with others generally, but I still cruise his site for stories and podcasts, and he did link to this Rense thread as well, saying “told you so!”

    Bollyn did have an interesting piece about AFP several months back, looking at the background of Mark Lane, his Jonestown relationship etc. And in his Q&A area there’s a recent question dated 10/15 where he addresses what he sees as AFP putting out 911 disinfo (no planes, nukes)- & talks again about Lane, Carto, Piper, Thorn…

    –note from me, MG–As I said, having worked for AFP for several years, spoken at their conferences, spent hundreds (thousands) of hours on the phone with MCP and having met and spoken with Mark Lane in person I can tell you that he is as much an ‘issue’ there as is Simon Bolivar. Bollyn is trying to weave a conspiracy around the fact that he lost his job due to his own idiotic behavior in picking a fight with cops while drunk.

    And believe me, if there is anyone with an ax to grind against AFP, it is yours truly, given the fact that (editor at the time) Jim Tucker threw me out the door with no paycheck and a wife and 9 kids to feed. So when I tell you there is nothing there viz a viz Bollyn’s looney assertions, you can be rest assured there is NOTHING there.

  144. #144 by Clarkpatterson on 10/19/2010 - 9:34

    Why are you not posting my comments? My last comment was well written and factual and very relavant! You are a denier and don’t want good rebuttlas on your site of hippocritical bias!You have ousted yourself. You are not after truth just bias for your own propoganda.

    note from me, MG–I posted your first comment, which was only half lucid, but your 2nd one, (which you characterize as a “good rebuttlas”) was nothing but racist trash in which you depicted Muslims as cavedwellers and rapists, something which we just are not “in” to here. If Muslim bashing is your forte, I’m afraid you’re going to have to go to one of those neocon Jewish supremacist sites.

  145. #145 by mark from kentucky on 10/19/2010 - 9:34

    I always thought “Mr. Rence” was a opportunistic,wierdo peace of crap!
    Mark you ought to talk to Victor Thorn about the passive aggressive attacks he and Alex “Pay-triot” Jones thrust on WING TV about three years ago! On Alex’s show. At least Lisa and Victor had the guts to critisise Alex up front!
    And now Alex and Jeffy boy are bitter enemies! What a joke!
    I guess there is only room for one money grubbing,egotistic,Zionist Apologist at GCN.

  146. #146 by Michael Kelley on 10/19/2010 - 9:34

    Dear Mr. Glenn,

    I have been observing the scene for four years, about the time I first got internet, and I can offer you a somewhat unified explanation for the phenomenon you are witnessing, including the tragic death of Curt Maynard.

    There is an attempt at hand to introduce a right-wing military dictatorship which is itself essentially Zionist, but hides that fact behind a twofold “Christian” and “patriot” deception.

    The entrance to the rabbit hole: http://www.guardiansofthefreerepublics.com/introduction.html#

    If this is a sideshow, how come my emails are getting tampered with or lost on the subject, and I can’t get Paul Drockton to run the story, although I am a classic whistleblower from the militia movement and he says he would do it at first, then just became silent and unavailable?

    If they succeed, mass imprisonment and death of Muslima will be a natural consequence. BTW, I am not “for” Islam, but they have human rights.

  147. #147 by GTRman on 10/19/2010 - 9:34

    Well written commentary on this issue here. I left a comment at the blog pointing out that Mark Glenn is Christian, not Muslim as stated.

    Commentary on the Rense/Mark Glenn Schism

    excerpt: “The short story of what is going on here is that Rense has gravitated toward an anti-Muslim stance, or at least a stance on them that is construed as being sufficiently anti-Muslim by Mark Glenn. Although Rense has posted tons of material on the Palestinian plight, negative commentary on the Rothschild/Rockefeller/jew/NWO wars, and the nature of the beast, he has also posted articles by writers that are not friendly to Muslims. Frosty Woolridge comes to mind. Glenn (and Cortina) construe from this, as well as from his offensive (defensive?) behavior, that he is A) either being taken in by the zionists or is B) a zionist shill/disinfo agent (perhaps, we may surmise, from either intimidation or premeditation).

    I have read, overall, between fifteen and twenty pieces from Glenn and Cortina. I take them both to be very straight talkers with tremendous courage. That is -who knows really?- if they aren’t disinfo agents themselves. (I don’t think that they are, actually, but you do get my point I hope.)

    I have read in places that Rense has discontinued relationships with a cadre of good writers and even posts a lot of material from jewish ones. I personally would never trust a jew on grave matters (though perhaps cautiously on mundane ones), but that does not mean there are not some good and decent jews out there. If 99% of them are bad, mathematically it follows that 1% are good. And I believe that they are indeed good. The trouble is parsing out the sheep from the wolves-in -sheep’s clothing. I trust Bro Kapner 100%. But the caveat there is that he is not a Jew. He is a former Jew; he is a Christian.

    I am wont to believe and trust Gilad Atzmon. He seems to care. But if you are going to pick apart zionism, you have to throw the gauntlet at the talmud; there is no middle ground there. If you know about it, you are wither starkly against it or you are obscurely for it. Even 99.9% of the jews are against the talmud…outwardly.

    Which brings me back to Joe Cortina. He stands stridently on Mark Glenn’s side of this argument, claiming that he knows Glenn personally and can vouch for his honesty and integrity, which I doubt not. Cortina says he is double-guessing Rense because of his behavior in the Glenn imbroglio and for the censure of an article of his:”


  148. #148 by paschn on 10/19/2010 - 9:34

    Relatively new to this mode of fact/fiction dispersion, (the web), I try to carefully tred from one site to another. The best way I’ve found, (best for me, so far…not intimating THE best), is to post w/o obscenity, try to follow the lines of thought and wait…..
    If my posts are factual, (as factual as one can hope to be), regardless of how critical they are of a given subject, I fully expect them to be posted.
    If I mention “Jew”, “Talmud” “Rothschild” Danzig Corridor, Bolshevik Revolution….etc etc etc, and I get a pop-up telling me oops, you gotta wait for moderation. That pretty much tells me someone is running interference for Israel,…Talmudic Jews and every nefarious horror they’ve initiated with their bought-off Judas/Renfield classes, bans a writer for printing the truth and virtually sentences him/her to crushing poverty, (Roy Tov),….. When a site does that OR simply doesn’t post my articles, I never go back.
    I’m open to any other ideas as well…

  149. #149 by Craig Pepe on 10/20/2010 - 9:34

    c mon BAFS, dont leave me hanging

  150. #150 by Concrete man on 10/20/2010 - 9:34

    Some random thoughts:

    I agree with GTRman, (I liked your commentary), my experience is that although you can learn A LOT from many honest Jewish writers, when push comes to shove you have to be very cautious. I can think of a long list who limit the debate and steer clear of core issues. Noam Chomsky is the classic example (who criticized the mainstream media as propaganda, but then created his own kosher propaganda), but even “thinking men’s Noam Chomskys” like Norman Finkelstein and William Blum refuse to acknowledge the Israel Lobby or that the Holocaust is a fraud. Many Jews or “half Jews” I have known in personal life can be interesting, funny, friendly etc., but I can think of none that I respect for honest inquiry into the Jewish Power issues.

    I was reading today in Douglas Reed’s book, The Controversy of Zion, that the Jews undermined the Greek and Roman Civilizations. Now that is an amazing thesis that I did not learn about in my first year of college back some years ago!

    Today I ran into a teacher whose speciality is Islamic Studies (a Full Time Professor or full of something). He was friendly but when I mentioned that Islamophobia (trying to impress on him that I am pro Islam) is being used to take the US into wars of aggression in the Middle East, his face turned ashen gray and he scurried off to teach his class!
    I was just about to tell him that the Mossad carried out 911! Too bad…

  151. #151 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 10/20/2010 - 9:34

    Craig Pepe October 18, 2010 at 11:39 pm

    “care to explain and elaborate?”

    “But, this will take me to the grave BEFORE I understand what is TRUE and what is FALSE and who are the real Judas! I understand why Tibetan monks used to stay on top of their mountains, but even that was not the right thing to do because the Jews got to them too, I mean the Chinese financed by the Jews!”

    “Craig Pepe October 17, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    “you (Mark Glenn)shouldnt refer to yourself as a Christian

    its misleading to believers”

    Craig Pepe October 20, 2010 at 1:32 am

    “c mon BAFS, dont leave me hanging”




    May I remind you that my intervention here was only regarding Jeff Rense’s threats against my Christian family, Mark, his wife and children!

    Jeff has still not responded to my email regarding this matter!


    P.S. If you can handle the truth, I will be more than happy to elaborate on the Tibetan Monks’ issue, but not here. Thanks for asking anyway.

  152. #152 by Tom in GA on 10/21/2010 - 9:34

    I’m quickly losing respect for Mark Glenn even though he was one of my favorites. Mark’s being guilty of causing disruption in this movement. Mark seems to have a real mean streak to take, over and over again, personal conversations and expose that dirty laundry in the public because others don’t follow his own personal beliefs.

    I’ve never seen an anit-islam article on rense – not saying they don’t exist – but can someone list the urls? Rense talks about Zionism every week and has an inordinate amount of anti-zionist articles – tons of it – which Mark doesn’t mention – and that’s not enough for Mark. How about giving me a count of anti-islam urls vs anti-zioinist urls.

    Apparently Mark thinks he has the right to tell other people what they need to do with their own site’s content, or be told that they are ‘guilty by association’ with the mass murder or iraq’s, car bombs, white phospurus war crimes … dude, give me a break. That’s jew tactics.

    Attacking phony liar Alex Jones is one thing but doing this to Rense – I guy clearly and overtly expressing anti-zionist opinions many times a week – and calling him the biggest threat, is a bad joke that I can’t laugh at anymore.

    If true (and I don’t necessarily believe that), Rense’s response about DHS is obviously pathetic and out of line, but Mark has caused the whole mess by insisting final editorial rights to Rense’s content about anything he disagrees with. Even more pathetic…and causal.

    There are two sides of the story and wouldn’t make any judgments unless hearing Rense’s side – especially due to Mark’s very frequent ability to make enemies, over and over again, out of former friends. But hopefuly Rense will take the high road and get on to the issues at hand.

    Ironically, Mark’s action starts to sound like the jews, the people who say they’ve been victims and wronged, not once, twice, 10 times, 25 times, but more. At some point you realize that it’s not everyone else who can’t place nice, but quite obviously, the Jews who are the problem.

    First it was Jim Tucker, then Stadtmiller, then, incredulously, Phil Tourney (that’s when I said, hhmmmm, something is wrong here) and now Rense and Duke.

    Who’s next Mark? Dankof? There’s a clear pattern here and it is disgracefuly exposing a personal vengeance problem. Funny you had Rense snippet on at beginning, I agree with his opinion about, obviously, your public attacks.

    Mark, you think its right to expose personal calls and comunications over and again? Maybe you should get a job for Amdocs. It’s not like once or twice, it’s a pttern and it hurts the movement, and if you don’t find your come-to-jesus moment to accept life that not everyone who is your friend will do and say everything according to your own political beliefs about Islam, you will become even more isolated than you are already making yourself.

    You will disagree of course, but this is meant as constructive critism from somone who respects your journalistic ability and knowledge of so much of the truth hidden from us, by zionist racist jews who control our country.

    What can be worse than doing this to an anti-zionist with a sizable following. Rense is right, the jewish supremecists must be laughing over our dead bodies.


    Note from me, MG–

    1) The article in question appearing on Rense’s site that was the spark for all of this was entitled ’Demoting Islam’s Religious Status” written by Martel Sobieski. (You’re a smart boy and can do a google search on it yourself) It was 100% pure Zionist, neocon garbage and the very sort of stuff that was responsible for dragging America into 2 disastrous wars. Any person claiming to be part of the “truth” movement propagating this stuff might as well be propagating as well the lie that the attack on the USS LIBERTY was an “accident” and Israel is America‘s “only ally“ in the Middle East.

    2) Next, I don’t have the right to tell people what they can and cannot post, but I DO have the right to express my opinion about it, which I did. Further, I have the right to let them know that if they continue spreading the enemy’s lies that only hurt what we are all trying to accomplish here, that I have the right to tell OTHERS that said site is suspect and cannot be trusted as a reliable outlet for information. You want to deny me MY right to ‘free expression”? Works both ways bubba.

    3) The fact that Rense “exposes” Zionism is as much a defense as Jones’ saying he “exposes the New World Order”. You have to look at the WHOLE PICTURE, and if Rense exposes Zionism and then in the next breath is carrying their water for them and propagating their lies, then what good is he? No different from a man who works 5 days a week to provide for his family but then on the weekend he gets drunk and beats his wife and kids. And no, I don’t expect people to walk a chalk line. I have always thought that Rense’s bullshit dealing with ufo’s, Bigfoot, reptilians and all the rest was not helpful to the movement, but never said anything. Only when he was doing the enemy’s dirty work for him did I say anything, and then, only when it resulted in my good friends being harmed by it.

    Let’s put it another way Tom. Let’s say that Rense runs all this anti-Zionist material, but he also runs articles talking about how Tom in Georgia is a child molester, embezzler, and all around is as crooked as a dog’s hind leg. As a result of this, people are doing things to Tom–bad things, like setting his cars on fire, throwing rocks through his windows and threatening his family. Let’s say I step in and tell Rense that it is wrong for him to do this and that he has no right to malign a good man in this way. Would you then be accusing me of all the things you are now? Of course you wouldn’t, you perfectly worthless hypocrite.

    But yet, all the sudden, me standing up for MY FRIENDS and telling Rense he has no right to propagate lies about them is wrong and I am the bad guy. Yeah, makes sense to me Tom.

    4) If you have any questions concerning whether or not Rense did INDEED make these threats, why not ask him? If you were HALF as smart as you presuppose yourself being, you would note with great interest that he has not made ONE mention of it on his show or otherwise. Now, if there were ‘lies’ flying around out there about you, and you had a nightly radio program where you could come out and very publicly refute them, wouldn’t you? Short of that, why not send an email to David Duke and ask him since he was the person Rense used (and in a most cowardly fashion) to pass the threat along to yours truly.

    5) The situation with Jim Tucker was cut and dry–He did not like my articles because of their content–meaning the Zionist/Jewish question, something he made clear in an email to me which I will share with anyone who is interested. Furthermore, understand as well that he is universally disliked by EVERYONE at AFP. The program MCP did a few months back where he described his own run in with Tucker is just one small example of the kind of animosity he engenders in everyone.

    As far as Stadtmiller, again, it was HE who cancelled the program, not us, and made it clear he did not want the LIBERTY issue being discussed in his network anymore. Furthermore, as in the case of Jim Tucker, Stadtmiller is UNIVERSALLY disliked and has a list of enemies behind him a mile long, so if you are going to use this as some kind of “proof” concerning my “contentious and contrarian” nature, you are going to have to do better than that.

    As far as Phil Tourney goes, 5 minutes before I received this email I was on the phone with him, as I am several times A DAY. Despite the spat that occurred months ago (purely the result of one insane individual named Dave Stanton who harbors an obsession for Phil and has for many, many months been on a seek and destroy mission in sabotaging every friendship Phil has with anyone but himself) Phil and I are as close as we have always been, so, tough luck on that one, Tom.

    6) Who is “next”? Well Tom, you have already answered that question with your email–YOU ARE, so congratulations Einstein.

    7) And finally–just an historical reminder Tom–there is nothing “unusual” about making enemies in “movements” such as this. It is part and parcel of any highly-charged, highly-emotional event. Not that I would consider myself in any kind of league with them, nevertheless Jesus Christ had enemies, so I guess we better blame it all on the fact he “could not get along, y’all” with anyone. Sts Peter and Paul were inimical to each other. George Washington was always dealing with people trying to pull the rug out from under him. George Patton. I could go on literally for hours elucidating the same kinds of “patterns” with other persons in history who made enemies. It comes with the territory.

    Sorry to see you go Tom, but then again, maybe not. If it is one thing I have learned about all this is that 90% of those in this thing are half-cracked and will stick a screwdriver in your back in an instant and with no justifiable reason other than they feel like doing it. The issue here is not me putting pressure on one of our “members” in the movement to pick a side and stay on it, but rather the fact that he threatened to turn me over into the hands OF OUR ENEMIES for doing so. THIS should be the thing that has you hot-n-bothered, not me. The truth is that you should be down on your knees thanking God that this little drama took place, because it was a revelation TO ALL OF US that we have a Judas in our midst, and if you are too short-sighted, small-minded or dim-witted to grasp this, then perhaps you and Jeff Rense really are made for each other.

    Jewish supremacists laughing amongst themselves? You’re exactly right Tom–every time Rense runs their material and does their dirty work for them and every time a fool such as you runs to his defense for doing it.



  153. #153 by Concrete man on 10/22/2010 - 9:34

    Good response Mark. I personally have burned a few bridges with old friends, and even relatives. Who doesn’t? As far as political activism goes, bruhahas are just a part of the game. Tom in GA does make a good point about doing an empirical search of articles comparing antizionism vs ant-iIslamism. That would be helpful. But I have done my own informal survey and I can tell Tom that the majority of Renze guests DO NOT discuss Zionism let alone Jewish Extremism. Also, Rense avoids scientifically, balanced and rigorous examination of issues in favor of sensationalism and a shot gun blast of asundry issues in order to blast the readers mind (much of which is good, people need to get their minds blasted now and then).

    As an aside, I just read an interesting article by Diana Johnstone in Counterpunch about the French bruhaha in the streets. She notes that French outrage is well justified but unfortunately there is no strong political movement to lead the way to oust Sarkozee, take on the EU and NATO etc. Still, it is inspiring to see the French mightily POed and to see US home owners also waking up that they are being defrauded by criminal banks.

    Lots of exciting stuff going on in the world, let the fun commence!

  154. #154 by Concrete man on 10/22/2010 - 9:34

    A note about RBN owner John Stab-liar, aka, Stadtmiller; The only reason I listen to RBN (and I am not saying there are not other good guests, I don’t really know), is because of Michael Piper’s show, which is one of the most informative on the air, period. Rick Adams is also a wise one and most of his guests are very interesting (Deanna Spingola, Art from Philly, et al). Of course, Hesham’s show is also one of the greats.

    As for Stabliar himself, at one time I did try to listen to him but soon found that he and Bob Chapman eschew talking about the You Know Whos and prefer patting themselves on the back about how smart they are. It is obvious from listening to him that he has a real temper and a fierce attitude for anyone who disagrees with him.

    As for the choice of his hosts on RBN, some of them certainly run end rounds with the truth but use the platform to spread their ideas, many of which are reliable journalism (I recall the host who repeatedly claims 800,000 children per year are kidnapped for Satanic rituals, when in fact most of those children are related to family disputes and returned home safely).

    God Bless Izrayhell!

  155. #155 by James M on 10/22/2010 - 9:34

    23 Oct 2010

    Dear Mark,

    That was an amazing article about Rense. I caught on to him when he did a couple of radio shows with a chap named Dr. Henry L. Niman (a Jew) concerning the swine flu pandemic. I wasn’t surprised when he had a run in with you. I have a feeling that we’re winning this war. I’ll be glad when it’s over.

    All the Best,

    James M

  156. #156 by Randa on 10/22/2010 - 9:34

    Given Stadtmiller’s lack of integrity and honesty, what the hell is Michael Collins Piper doing with his amazing show on RBN?

    Don’t you people get it? Make deals with the devil and you WILL get burned.

    Same with Rense. ANYONE who submits their AMAZING DYNAMIC TRUTH to Rense, is a part of the problem, not the solution.

  157. #157 by bearandblizz on 10/23/2010 - 9:34

    blah blah blah

    you dont get it

    todays “devil” is tomorrows god and vis versa

    I still say MOVE ON.

    Move on doesnt mean stay ignorant, it means put your shield up.

    If you dont want to MOVE ON, then make a money bomb to attack Jeff Rense
    full time and rename your blog site or website WE ARE DEDICATED TO DESTROYING http://WWW.RENSE.COM

    anyone that goes to rense.com knows what its all about. I go there and I dont believe it all, I try to use discretion and discernment and Im glad that Mark Glenn posted this, but lets move on.

    Most of us understand that we are humans and that we make mistakes.

    maybe this blog needs to be a poll like the little kids do

    question; after reading this what will you do?

    1 attack JR at any cost
    2 nothing
    3 use discernment like I always do
    4 join MG and his team forever
    5 join JR and his team forever
    6 go to my 3rd job cuzz I have to feed my family

    there you go, vote and move on

  158. #158 by Randa on 10/23/2010 - 9:34

    As if you can “move on.” This is not some idle discussion/venting about Jeff Rense. This is about someone who threatens, abuses, coerces, manipulates, lies, lies, lies in the name (or in this case against the name) of Israel.

    This is about Israel. This is about your planet Earth. This is about accountability of the all-consuming Darkness which pervades our existence. Rense is no small player and that which he serves is no small Beast.

    There are those who seek the dignity of Humanity. Those like Mark Glenn.

  159. #159 by The Truth on 10/24/2010 - 9:34

    Yeah I noticed Jeff has also been running insane ‘mini nuke’ shill BS about 911 in addition 2 the zio-con anti-muzzie BS on his site lately. He is trying 2 sneak it in. My bet is he is attempting 2 please his trying 2 attract more advertisers – maybe jewish ones. U know, like how Alex Jones lix the poo from himey butt several times per episode, always blaming everything on ‘evil germans’ (nazis) – even claiming a mongrel lib-tard like Obama is a ‘stealth nazi’ – I mean come on.

    Yes, Jeff Rense is slowly but surely washing out like the Tea Party – doing the shill dance, eventually 2 run real patriots off the cliffs! =) U hit the nail on the head there. I was all ‘WTF” when I saw the muzzie-bashing krap articles on Rense lately 2!

  160. #160 by jojo on 10/24/2010 - 9:34

    Looks like Makow has chosen sides, a friend of mine was actually “blacklisted” (Makows words, not mine) when he questioned something on the save the males site.


  161. #161 by Lanaeo on 10/24/2010 - 9:34

    This ‘In-Fighting’ is counter productive to The Cause. Everyone has their own angle on things and its healthy to understand a wide variety of perceptions on subjects. The divide and conquer strategy applies here. Neither Jeff or Mark should be duped into this petty bickering when a mountain of obvious crushing adversity is before us. Its not the time for this guys! Stop being like little kids fighting over who gets to play with the tonka truck!!

    –note from me, MG–all this this turned ugly when Jeff Rense, NOT ME, threatened to bring the federales into the equation. He should just man-up and apologize for being such a momma’s boy and then that will be the end of it.

  162. #162 by Sam on 10/24/2010 - 9:34

    Dear Mark,

    I applaud you for exposing Rense for who he is. Basically his job (along with Alex Jones) is to take the truth (exposing of zionism e.g.) and marrying it with ufo’s , big-foots, lochness monsters and chupacabras to make it(us) look like goofs, weirdos and never taken seriously. Have you seen the articles he has posted by the Islam -hating Frosty Woodbridge (all-out islam-muslim-american bashing…unbelievable stuff)?

    Thank you again for exposing Rense, for you have taken down one of those evil bastards main mis-imformation weapons.

    From a careing muslim brother, cheers…btw, i support you and your family and if there’s anything i can do to help….peace, salam my friend. We will prevail united !

    note from me, MG–Salaam Sam, and thank you for the good words.

    Yes, I contacted Rense MULTIPLE times about the lunatic Frosty (what a name) Wooldridge, but obviously to no avail. Sadly, one of the lessons to be learned in all of this is that people like Rense who are not in it for the truth but rather to glorify and glamorize themselves meet with unenviable ends.

    As far as you “helping”–you just did!



  163. #163 by Sam on 10/24/2010 - 9:34

    TOM IN GA……..no anti-islam articles on Rense???

    look up Frosty (shit-for-brains) Wooldridge…okay !!

    what a joke!

    btw, anyone who comes out in defense of rense (makow..etc) are also deepcover zionist and/or have agendas of the their own. Its a clasic sign when they come out to rally and defend on another. Poor miserable bastards..you know who you are!

    Mark..you are not alone pal…

    a muslim friend..

  164. #164 by anonymous on 10/24/2010 - 9:34

    I do not listen to Rense’s radio program, but read articles linked by RENSE.COM daily. I have been doing so for years. Honestly, there may have been a few articles which I felt were derogatory toward Muslims, but those articles did nothing to convince Islam is evil. The overall opinion which seems to be expressed is that Islam and Christianity are both highly victimized, slandered against, and belittled. Some of the articles are a little questionable, but I think they are easy to pick out. The site is not representing an anti-Islam message, but the opposite. The main opinion expressed is that the powers that be are are doing everything they can to control the masses. They do not hesitate to lie, cheat, steal, kidnap, kill, etc, to serve their agenda, which does not serve the majority of humanity.
    If your main argument is an anti-Islam agenda, then I do not believe you have a case. Rense.com constantly links to articles exposing hateful and unfair acts against Muslims.Your attack on rense could divert people from important messages his site links and that you agree with. You, Rense, Makow, etc. have common ideals and causes to support. I will be checking out your site to learn more about you and claims made and facts presented, but will continue to read the articles at rense.com, as I believe it is the best place to get info on many serious issues facing society.
    A thought that has occurred since I am not familiar with you…maybe you are stirring the pot? Perhaps helping the Illuminati by the ‘divide and conquer’ method.

    –note from me, MG–the “attack” on Rense was something between the two of us until HE decided to widen it to include 1) first David Duke, and then 2) the US government. He (and now Makow) are in a hole they have dug for themselves.


    And we are supposed to take these people and their comments seriously…

  165. #165 by Crypto- nite on 10/25/2010 - 9:34

    I too have taken a big step back from Rens.com- refrained from donating $$ etc. He doesnt need to run anti-Islam trash- the western MSM indoctinates us with it 95% of the time for him. If he wants to provide them “balance”- let him direct them back there. If Rense was truly about balance: why does he oppose your viewpoint on this issue, which fairly balances his??

    I also perceive a dishonest position on Muslims as per Rense.com. Hiding behind fake “balance”, Rense gets to discredit, smear and disparage Muslims, all the while hiding behind the “objectivity” line. If this guy really believes “the angry arabs” will come after him for his stuff- well he’s more indoctinated than even he himself admits.

  166. #166 by anonymous on 10/25/2010 - 9:34

    That last comment I mentioned was just sarcastic. I was simply implying that although you have probably gained some new fans through this thing, I think that trying to defame each other can only be bad for the causes that you all support. There have been things on rense.com and on Makow’s site that I thought were not worth my time and questionable, but the big picture seems to remain intact and the theme mostly consistent. I do not know how you/your family has been threatened, and understand and agree with your anger that they have even been mentioned in this dispute. I am not attacking you. I do not feel Rense is either. I will continue to be a fan of all of the parties involved (including you) but continued attacking by either party against each other will cause me to look for info elsewhere. As I said I have gone to Rense.com for info for years and have been surprised by opinion pieces like the ones you mentioned and also felt they were ignorant garbage. I think most readers of the site would agree. If I see them I can see they are worthless, but I can do this based on things I have found through Rense. I am not putting you at fault. I am not putting anyone at fault. Rense has a disclaimer stating the articles are not to be taken as his views, and I guess I always looked at it that way. Many of those attacking Islam have used religious sources which have overtime been manipulated to serve selfish agendas.
    I just don’t want people being distracted from anyone offering some of the important info vital to bringing power to the people. I wish you luck in this matter and hope you can all end this and continue to give people the truth they are too often denied.
    Although I have been your audience before this incident, I know more about you now and have added you to my bookmarks. Thanks for you time and quick response to my previous comment. I hope this issue can be resolved positively for all parties involved. Good luck and may God bless the truth and all who embrace and share it.

  167. #167 by Eowyn on 10/25/2010 - 9:34

    I just read Roy Tov’s article that was pulled by Rense: http://www.roytov.com/articles/japan.htm

    Tov proposes that ALL American Jews be rounded up and put into concentration camps, a la the Japanese internment camps of WWII. Is Tov insane? Does he not know that there are good and evil among EVERY race, ethnicity, gender, political party, and socio-economic class? If Tov were living in America, *he* also would be interned.

    To round up and imprison every member of whatever racial/ethnic group is evil. Rense was right in pulling Tov’s article from Rense.com.

    –note from me, MG–at the risk of opening up YET ANOTHER front in this debate, nevertheless I must agree. The idea of rounding up every Jew and putting them in camps is insane and to his credit (?) Rense made the right decision.

    However, JUST as insane is running articles claiming that Islam teaches men to molest their little daughters, that Muslims are commanded to kill non-Muslims and that Muslims should be rounded up and forced to leave America, which Rense had NO problem with running, again and again and again.

  168. #168 by anonymous on 10/25/2010 - 9:34

    This is my last comment. After thinking about it, I think I agree with you. My last comments I was mainly concerned because I as I said I go to rense.com to find articles I might not otherwise hear. I have always looked at them as submissions of articles people found interesting/strange. Bigfoot articles and the like I thought were sometimes posted just because they were strange articles mentioned for entertainment. I now see that many readers not be so discerning; may simply either believe something because it is written or worse, discredit the legitimate claims based on foolish things also linked to and written about by rense. I mainly read the articles linked, and usually do not click on rense.com articles at all. I pass up the articles which are not fact based or obvious fiction. I do remember reading sometime within the last few weeks to months an absurd article, which I think was written by frosty woolridge which I believe was about Islam, the ground zero mosque, or something involving Islam. I discounted as ignorance and moved on.
    I am actually sorta embarrassed by my last comment because I usually research things and verify facts I may not be sure if when I make comments, but this time I do not even believe I understood the point you were trying to make. I pretty much agree with most of what you have said. I’m not sure about him promoting anti-Islam sentiment because although I read some articles I personally would not post, I also read many about the cruel things done to Muslims for just being Muslim. I also did not realize until after the first two comments I made that I was on this site, which I have visited many times, have many articles I have bookmarked, and even have some I where I downloaded the complete webpage to save the article in case it was deleted or I did not have internet at some point. I find it hard to believe that Rense would link some of the articles he does exposing Zionism if he truly is part of their plan, unless he post the other absurd stories to discredit the truth movement. You really made me think! Thanks and sorry if for misunderstanding and coming off the wrong way.

  169. #169 by David Sadler on 10/25/2010 - 9:34

    “… In the emails I have gotten from him as of late, he has made it clear that he does not consider himself to be just a cog in the wheel, but rather the machine itself and that the rest of us are just incidental hangers on.

    … we are like teachers to a bunch of 2nd grade students. The alien business is something for advanced, college-level mathmatics, not kindergarten level 2+2=4. Make the american people understand FIRST AND FOREMOST that there is something wrong with their world. Then, step by step, build on that. LATER, AFTER THEY HAVE GRASPED THE BASIC CONCEPTS, then you can get into the alien stuff, but if you try to do it WHILE THEY REMAIN AT AN ELEMENTARY LEVEL all you will succeed in doing is frightening them right back into the arms of individuals such as O’Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc, etc, etc.”
    — MG —

    This is only being pointed out because it smacks of the pot calling the kettle black. Rense is the self-proclaimed ‘machine’ while your group is comprised of the teachers of 2nd grade students (American citizens).

    “–note from me, MG– … the UFO thing (… gets us NOWHERE in understanding and solving the REAL problem we are dealing with here, namely the madness of Jewish thinking … those who DO make discussion of the ‘paranormal’ a disproportionate amount of the discussion are in my opinion a liability … Let’s deal with the paranormal issue LATER after we have gotten the vampire’s fangs off our neck.

    “… I am not denying the existence of extraterrestrial life … The point here is getting as many people as possibleout in the streets protesting … we are definitely NOT going to achieve that by delving into the space alien/reptilian/men in black aspect to all this.

    “… We are dealing with a stupid american people, so if we are going to wage a SUCCESSFUL campaign, we MUST appeal to their tastes, and right now it ain’t ET.

    “… I have always thought that Rense’s bullshit dealing with ufo’s …”
    — MG —

    Everyone has priorities and issues that to them are the most important. Certain issues naturally float to the top like cream on raw milk. More on issue triage later. But a reality once experienced by one person does not become unreal because someone who has not experienced it denies its reality.

    Among the Big Question of life are these:
    – Is there life after death? People explore this question through spirituality, religion, parapsychology and other methods.
    – Are Humans alone in the universe? A search for extra-terrestrial life on and off Earth and an interest in UFOs naturally flow from this question.
    – How did the universe come into existence? Cosmology and physics along with spiritual approaches explore.
    – How did life begin? How did life become so diverse? Again, science, religion spirituality explore the question.

    You said that “the REAL problem we are dealing with here, namely the madness of Jewish thinking” is the major issue determining how people live their lives. Doesn’t that depend upon where one is living and how one interacts with the world on a daily basis?

    It seems quite clear that nearly everyone is insane, uninformed, compulsive, prejudiced, biased, deceitful, greedy, short-sighted. Everyone it seems is Human and driven by basic survival instincts embedded deep within the essence of all living things.

    An appeal that the major problem in the world is “Jewish thinking” will fall on deaf ears and a blank stare from someone who just lost their family members and their home to a tornado. A person experiencing such a personal tragedy will think you some kind of evangelist thumping some cause totally irrelevant considering that their personal world just vanished due to a tightly bound fast moving fragment of wind that was arrived and left in just a few seconds taking with it everyone and everything a person holds dear.

    Now, in war torn areas of the world such as the Middle East where war and conflict is common, naturally the ‘tornado’ is that group of people doing the destroying. Tribal hatred grows. In the world of government and finance where the ‘tornado’ is tyranny, regulation, taxation and the control of ones ability to live a life free of the meddling and oppression of others a natural hatred will arise up against the tyrants, bankers and social engineers who just can’t seem to mind their own business and play fair.

    But to declare that the major problem in the world is “Jewish thinking” is an incredibly naive thing to say for a person who is highly regarded by many people such as you.

    The more objective things to say would sound like this:
    No person is perfect.
    No collection of people is perfect.

    There are some universal crimes. Among them …
    Unprovoked murder, assault, theft, coercion, destruction of private property.

    There are some universal unethical behaviors. Among them …
    Lying, cheating.

    All persons and groups are capable of these crimes and unethical behaviors.

    Here are some questions for you and Rense.

    Why have the Arabic people – not their leaders – but the common people allowed the Palestinians to be oppressed by Israel?

    Why haven’t the people of the Middle East stormed the castles and declared their independence from puppet governments installed and maintained by the West/Israel?

    These cultures treat women as second class humans. Why haven’t the women of these cultures simply renounced these cultural/religious oppressions and declared their liberty among their fellow humans? Is “Jewish thinking” to blame for the plight of these women?

    Who is the purveyor of fear in these societies that maintains the women of the society as punching bags.

    Why haven’t the people of England done away with Kings, Queens and Divine Right?

    Why have the people of the industrialized nations allowed their nations to descend into tyranny and their economies, standard of living, their culture and language to be assaulted by those in their own governments and societies?

    What is wrong with the people to allow their own lives to be destroyed by these policies?

    How does “Jewish thinking” prevent people at the local level from getting together to raise up an army of 435 U.S. House candidates and fund them to victory to start voting to:
    – bring the U.S. military back home within U.S. borders,
    – declare English the official language of the United States
    – end the FED
    – allow businesses to fail regardless of their size
    – prosecute to the full extent of the law employers who hire illegal immigrants
    – fine and prosecute pharmaceuticals who sell poison and disease
    – fine and prosecute government officials and bureaucrats who engage in mandating the public take pharmaceutical poisons
    – prosecute and jail treasonous government officials and bureaucrats
    – promote school choice to give parents and guardians the right to send their children to schools other than government indoctrination centers
    – and on and on and on ……

    What kind of diversionary tactic is it to point fingers and accuse Jews, Islamists and others of global social demise when the answer is to recruit, fund, support and elect persons who will change the votes that will put AIPAC, central banking, war-mongering and predatory globalist lobbies in their place?

    You and your group can complain about the “Jewish thinking” problem from here until eternity, but unless you change the votes in Congress — things will only get worse.

    Yes, there are conspiracies. There are cabals. There are traitors. So to force their hand — to flush them out into the open within our own ranks and within our own communities — recruit, fund and support 435 candidates for congress in the United States that will end this collusion and conspiracy by changing the votes cast; by rescinding the laws of destruction that have been passed; by enforcing the laws intended to secure this nation, its economy, its culture and language.

    Have those people you want to get out into the streets and make noise do something strategic. Have them to raise up a candidate for the War for Congress. Congress is the battlefield. The congressional votes are the bullets and bombs that will change the destructive course of devolution the world is on.

    Readers of my website know that Israel has crossed the line with its oppression and genocide of the Palestinian people. It has crossed the line with its efforts to influence and conduct American domestic and foreign policy. Israel has crossed the line because it has violated universal principles and the national sovereignty of other nations. So too has America and Americans, Britain and the British — nearly every nation and people on Earth. The extreme fundamentalist religions and groups of all cultures who just can’t seem to leave people alone in dignity have crossed the same line. Christianity is included in this as well. Where have the Christians been to stem the flow of blood and oppression in the Middle East?

    The Palestinian people are humans too. They too are not perfect. They have within their ranks liars, cheaters, traitors, murders, war-mongers and thieves. But as a people they have been routed from their land and have been set upon for genocide by Israel while the entire world has watched. Where have the other regional Arabic people been? Why have they not come to the aid and defense of the Palestinians?

    So many people on these comments hail you as so much better than Rense. This leaves one wondering. At this moment, the distinction between you and Rense is too small to measure.

    Raise yourself up. Rise above the fray and look down upon the world’s events and the interactions amongst people. Do this. Then revisit your claim that the major problem today is “Jewish thinking.” It should become obvious that the major problem today is Human Nature left to its most primitive instinctual reactive self. To overcome our problems, Humans must ascend to a higher plain of enlightenment and civilization.

    Thanks for posting and good luck. You have a following so my desire for you is that your mission will become more universal in nature and more practical in its approach to getting this nation and all nations on track.

    The very best to you and your family,

    David Sadler

    If The Disc Is Ours

    Oil Wars:
    Part 1: http://www.david-sadler.org/pages/obx/oilWarsPart1.htm
    Part 2: http://www.david-sadler.org/pages/obx/oilWarsPart2.htm

  170. #170 by Arthur on 10/25/2010 - 9:34

    What hole in the freakin’ ground have you had your head in for the past century Sadler?

    Your foolish and arrogant tirade is nothing but Jewish chutzpah and sophistry.

    Who the hell owns the global media? Jews

    Who owns big oil? Jews

    Who owns the pharmaceuticals? Jews

    Who owns Hollywood? Jews

    Who owns all the publishing giants globally? Jews

    Who owns the global banking system (with the exception of the arabs)? Jews

    Who owns agribusiness? Jews

    Who owns every government in the non-Muslim world including China (with a tiny few exceptions)? Jews

    Who owns your own transparent mindset? Jews

    Wake up bud and smell the coffee and stop spreading more disinfo.

  171. #171 by ZS on 10/25/2010 - 9:34

    Rense is working for Henry Makow, since Makow decided who will write and will not write on the Rense.com web site:

    “When I pointed out that a contributor had advocated rounding up all US Jews, Jeff immediately took the offending article down.”

    This is about Roy Tov. He wrote that US Jews should be rounded up just like were Japanese people during WWII. And then the end of all wars will happen, the peace will come to us again.

    But Makow hates Roy Tov for Roy is truly honest jew.

  172. #172 by Hany Hanna on 10/25/2010 - 9:34

    Why was my comment censored from your site? Here it is again….post it you spineless fraud!

    I am an American Palestinian. My parents were both born and raised in Palestine; my mother’s family were refugees from Haifa in ’48 losing everything they owned. My family is Greek Orthodox by religion not Moslem.

    It’s absolutely ridiculous to demonize Jeff because of articles he has put up on his site. I for one am grateful for his efforts at exposing Zionism. Moslems are not beyond reproach. One time I met a Palestinian working in a convenience store in Whittier, California. I greeted him in a friendly manner. He asked me if I was Moslem or Christian. When I replied that my family was Christian, he replied, “Too bad.” I asked why. He said, “Because I hate Christians.”

    Get off your high horses fools. There are Moslems who have been stupid enough to be railroaded by fundamentalism just as there are Jews stupid enough to fall for Zionoism. And there are those who are stupid enough to demonize someone for posting various viewpoints on their site. As a Palestinian AND an Arab, I’ve been exposed to Moslems ALL MY LIFE. Fundamentalist Moslems are just as deranged as fundamentalist Christians and Zionists, extremists AND Talmudic Jews. Those of you that think Jeff is a Zionist mole….well, there’s not much I can say to insanity.

    –note from me, MG–the reason your comment was not posted is because I assumed you were just a mole looking to cause trouble, and I am still not convinced you are not. I also find it rather interesting that you did not include in this comment the fact you work for Jeff Rense, as you indicated in your previous one.

    Funny, I have known muslims all my life. MANY of them what we would call ULTRA conservative/fundamentalist. Never had anything but kind, respectful, friendly relations with them. The ONLY people I ever hear talking about how they hate Christians are Jews. Furthermore, if there ARE muslims–fundamentalist or otherwise–who “hate” Christians–who can blame them? Every bomb that falls on a muslim home comes from ‘Christian’ countries, paid for with ‘christian’ money and done with ‘christian’ approval. The fact that your family was forced to flee Haifa–would not have been possible were it not for all the assistence given the Zionists by ‘Christian’ countries. That this needs explanation to you is beyond my understanding.

    As far as your assertion that I am a “fraud” as you put it, I find that rather interesting, given that you work for Jeff Rense. Here is a man who makes his living by peddling lies and yet you call someone else a ‘fruad’? All I can say is ‘interesting times we live in’.

    If indeed you do work for Rense, I would suggest you start looking for another line of work, as I was contacted by a lawyer last night concerning the article Rense published on his site written by one Paul Drockton where I am being accused of working as an intelligence asset setting him up to be killed. This lawyer, who is no fan of Rense, said there is a clear case for libel here and has offered to represent me pro bono (minus court costs) in suing Rense for running it, and indeed I plan to go forward with this and put him out of business, permanently, if possible.


  173. #173 by nemo on 10/25/2010 - 9:34

    And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?” Matthew 7:3 “Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?” Matthew 7:16 “Even as I have seen, they that plow iniquity, and sow wickedness, reap the same.” Job 4:8
    Dear Mark Glenn Until today I’ve never heard of you. Ironically, I only found your articles and podcasts after reading about you on Rense.com in Henry Makow’s article about your attack on Jeff Rense (http://www.henrymakow.com/rense.html ). I then read your open letter (https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/open-letter-to-henry-makow-phd/ ) and wondered if you aren’t perhaps biting the hand that has FED you? (Double entendre pun intended.)

    Note form me, MG–Fed? Me? If you are intimating in some way that I need Jeff Rense or that what I do is dependent upon him in some way, you are out to lunch.

    As far as your double entendre pun (at least you spelled ‘entendre’ correctly) pinch yourself and check in with reality–The person who is comfortable with the feds was the guy who threatened to deploy them against yours truly.I’m a firm believer in seeking the truth via critical thinking and as a result constantly strive to objectively evaluate the reliability and trustworthiness of all my sources for accurate and truthful news. I’ve been following Rense.com for many, many years as one of my sources for current news. Due to this serious accusation by you against Jeff Rense, and since I believe in the law of natural justice (Audi alteram partem), I decided to spend more than an hour of my valuable time to listen to your The Ugly Truth podcast (http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/2010/10/14/the-ugly-truth-podcast-oct-14-2010/ ) in order to hear your side of this incident (your attack on Jeff Rense) directly from your mouth. After listening to the entire podcast in which you presented your case (via Mark Dankof) against Jeff Rense I would like to share the following observations: Your argument against Jeff Rense seems to boil down to only two issues: 1. Your objection to content (specific linked articles – supposedly islamophobic ) on Rense.com 2. Alleged threats made by (or on behalf of) Jeff Rense to have you investigated by the FBI and/or DHS.

    Mark, to assist me as well as others understand what this is all about, would you please clarify your position on the above?

    MG–My position is simple–I disagreed with Jeff Rense running articles that are nothing but lying trash and that are responsible for turning the country into the mess it is. I let him know of my disagreement in this area and he threatened to call the cops on me for it.

    On the first issue: Would you agree or disagree with the following statements? 1.a. Rense.com CONSTANTLY links to articles that exposes and informs readers about Zionism (among many other topics). 1.b. Rense.com OCCASIONALLY (more like “very rarely”) provides links to articles that portrays Islam (or more likely RADICAL Islam) in a negative light.

    MG–Yes, Rense links to articles exposing Zionism and oftentimes abortionists deliver babies live. Is the point that you are trying to make that because he speaks out of one side of his mouth one minute in exposing Zionism that somehow it negates his speaking out of the other side of his mouth in doing their dirty work for them the next? I would have thought that a someone who quotes scripture like you do would have some memory of “Let your ye be ye and your ney be ney, for everything else is of the devil” as well as that entire thing about bearing false witness.

    I would also like to read your answers to the following questions: 1.c. Do you or do you not believe in the First Amendment? (I’m not trying to be facetious, I’m genuinely curious.) Also, what is your definition of and opinion on property rights? 1.d. Do you think Jeff Rense has the right to CENSOR the content of your website or podcasts? (or more relevant, and vice versa, do you think that you have the right to censor the content of a website that does not belong to you, for instance Rense.com?

    MG–I do believe in the 1st Amendment, but I also believe in responsibility and accountability. You can’t claim the 1st amendment when you commit perjury and if you deliberately lie about another person’s character you can be sued, so quit using that as an excuse.

    In your open letter to Makow, reference is made to “two articles” and in your lengthy response to “Tom in GA”’s comment on your podcast you only referred to a single article (for which you apparently condemned Jeff Rense). Could you please provide links to all the relevant articles on Rense.com that you disagree with ? I.e. could you please provide concrete evidence to support your position (i.e. that Jeff Rense is (paraphrasing you here) “carrying gasoline [for the Zionists] instead of buckets” and metaphorically “beating his wife and kids on the weekend”? / “negating all the good that he does?”)

    MG–As I said before, Rense DOES run anti-Zionist articles, but again, the fact that he does so does not give him free pass to run articles which he knows to be outright lies, which, by the way, are responsible for ginning up 2 disastrous wars we are fighting.

    Would you perhaps venture a guess as to the percentage of articles exposing Zionism versus articles critical of radical Islam on Rense.com? (I don’t know the answer, but I’m sure it’s possible to calculate and therefore factually proving or refuting your (thus far baseless) accusations.) In my opinion Jeff Rense clearly strives to be fair and balanced and presents both sides of an issue and leaves it for the reader to decide what to believe. Read the Rense.com Disclaimer! ( http://www.rense.com/general92/DIS.htm )

    MG–I don’t know the percentage and I don’t care. An obstetrician who delivers 5 babies a day but kills 3 is still a murderer.

    On the second issue: Am I getting the following sequence of events correct? Jeff Rense rightfully did not take kindly to your attempt at censorship of (or at the least trying to influence) his website, Rense.com, and according to you made this clear to you in a phone conversation. You then wrote an e-mail (or emails?) that you sent to numerous people, the content of which led to discussions about Jeff Rense on certain “Islamic chat rooms” (as you called it) that he then became aware of.

    MG–The “discussion” between me and JR was originally began as a private discussion (at Rense’s insistence) over some email exchanges that he then decided to expand by including David Duke, whom he sent out as his private attack dog. At this point, it was no longer a private affair and so I included a few friends of mine in the email exchanges Rense and I had, leading to them contacting him and them expressing THEIR disapproval with his antics. After the 4th phone call from Duke, wherein the threat to call FBI and DHS was made, I contacted Rense so that I could hear it with my own ears, which I did.

    On that topic, since you chose to make this “issue” between you and Jeff Rense a public one… – Why do you not make the email(s) that you wrote (that led to the Islamic chat room discussions) public? – Why do you not provide links to the Islamic chat rooms or verbatim copies of those discussion(s)? The (ugly) truth has nothing to fear (no reason to hide anything, right?) I’m merely speculating here, but is it not reasonable to assume that what was written in those chat room discussions (provoked by YOUR email), concerned Jeff Rense to such a degree (perhaps concerned for his own safety and welfare?), that he felt it necessary to threaten you with an investigation by the FBI or DHS in order to protect himself? Yet you as well as Mark Dankof constantly stated that Jeff Rense’s “threat” was “not justified”. Also, during all these events leading up to your open letter and podcast, as well as afterwards, did Jeff Rense for that matter at any time publicly attacked you (for example spending more than an hour on his radio show or mentioned anything about the e-mail that you wrote or the discussions about him in Islamic chat rooms? Not as far as I know. I find that quite telling about his character compared to yours regarding showing respect, dignity, integrity, maturity etc. Wisely he did the appropriate thing and simply ignores you.

    MG–As I said, the person who originally “went public” with this was Jeff Rense when he involved David Duke as his go-between.

    In my opinion, despite my total distaste for anything that reeks of a collective such as the Federal Government (and all their agencies such as the FBI, DHS etc.), depending on the actual content of the email that you wrote as well as chat room discussions, the so called “threat” by Jeff Rense to have you “visited” by the FBI and DHS appears prima facie totally JUSTIFIED (for example should specific threats have been made against him and his physical safety and security). However, I don’t think anybody will be able to determine whether or not the threat was justified until the content of the email and chat room discussions are made public. Until then, this entire “issue” is very much ONE-SIDED (i.e. we are only hearing what you want us to hear). I can go on and on dissecting your podcast and the ad nauseum ad hominem attacks made by you and your guest, Mark Dankof (a pastor no less who should know better!) about Jeff Rense and the unsubstantiated and slanderous accusations and insinuations but I’ve wasted enough precious time on this nonsense already, so to conclude… My sincere objective observations (since I don’t personally know any of the parties involved i.e. Jeff Rense, David Duke, Mark Glenn or Mark Dankof) and conclusions are based solely on what I’ve read in Makow’s article (http://www.henrymakow.com/rense.html ) , your open letter to Henry Makow (https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/open-letter-to-henry-makow-phd/ ), and heard on your podcast and read in the comments section (http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/2010/10/14/the-ugly-truth-podcast-oct-14-2010/ ) are: You, Mark Glenn, appear to be very insecure as well as immature. Your total overreaction (for real? or perhaps by design? / ulterior motives?) to a (possibly and apparently reasonable and justified) threat by Jeff Rense to have you investigated by the FBI and DHS (due to what was written in the Islamic chat rooms?) is proof enough to me of your insecurity. You apparently spend so much of your time and energy on “the movement” but at the mere mention of a visit by the FBI and/or DHS you perceive it as a threat and are absolutely terrified??? Hmmm… without a doubt very, very insecure (lack of confidence / preparedness perhaps?).

    MG–The fact that you are going to use the aforementioned totally one-sided article written by Makow tells me everything we need to know about your ability to “think critically” as you put it at the beginning of this email. As far as my “insecurity”–does all this appear like someone who as an an insecurity complex? I don’t think so. I’m not the one calling the cops on someone because they disagreed with me. Immature? I’d say that my 45 years of experience in life, and particularly given what it is a do for a living compounded by the fact that as the head of a household of 11 that I am a big boy who knows all to well how to handle responsibilities, so you can just forget that one.

    The numerous and public ad hominem attacks made by you (as well as Mark Dankof) on Jeff Rense during your podcast, as well as the comments written by you, are proof enough of your immaturity. For instance your vindictive manipulation of your readers and listeners by linking Jeff Rense with Alex Jones in the description to the podcast. Referring to your readers as “bubba” or sarcastically as “Einstein” etc. etc. You are very, very much guilty of hypocrisy / double standards, making a lot of accusations against Jeff Rense that you are actually guilty of yourself (for instance that he is hiding behind “older men” i.e. David Duke but then you have Mark Dankof on for almost the entire podcast. Not that you asked for it but I’ll give it anyway… My advice, should you care, is that you practice what you preach / take your own advice! (also read and think about the Bible verses I provided) If you do not have something good to say, rather say nothing at all, and while you’re at it, get rid of your overblown pride and your ego and rather wash your brother’s feet. The result of listening to your podcast is that I do not have respect or time for you or your opinions because of your clear lack of morals and integrity. Most importantly – I question YOUR motives (as should others). The lesson that I take away from this is that Jeff Rense and all that are in the truth “movement” should choose friends more wisely. (I can’t help but wonder if Jeff Rense isn’t wondering “Et tu, Brute?”) Mark Glenn, you may be professing to share the ugly truth but you sure have embraced the ugly part. Your vitriolic podcast and open letter regarding Jeff Rense is the poisoned fruit of your labor by which I’ve identified / gotten to know you (for the first time) today. In your podcast you’ve plowed iniquity and sown wickedness. According to your own argument against Jeff Rense, I fully expect you to sooner or later attack others and cause further unnecessary division among truth seekers. However, I take comfort in knowing that you are going to reap more than the same (perhaps even the whirlwind).

    Those who read this should decide for themselves… as for myself, I will keep as much distance from you, Mark Glenn, and your work (poisoned fruit and vindictive public backstabbing) as possible and will continue to support Jeff Rense, who as a scholar and a true gentleman has not written or said a negative word about you. He doesn’t need to… “Ye shall know them by their fruits.”

    MG–You are a free man (sort of, excepting your blindness to the charade you are willing taking part in) so you can do whatever you want. There have always been circuses, clowns and crowds to come and watch them, so you are no different in this regard from the millions of fools who have come and gone throughout history and participated in catastrophes by giving their blind acquiescence. “Attack” others? This started out as a correspondence between me and Jeff Rense which he widened to include others and then the federal government. That alone should make it crystal clear to you that he is a shyster and a fraud. But then again, as I said, their will always be circuses, clowns and crowds. It is obvious that you are nothing more than a preachy, mouthy, wordy spectator who sees something messianic in your Supreme Leader Jeff Rense that prevents you from thinking as critically as you claim and for that, I pity you.

  174. #174 by Kyle on 10/25/2010 - 9:34

    I strongly dislike “semites” and think they’re ALL ruining this world, so I’ll keep reading Rense.

  175. #175 by poorrichard on 10/25/2010 - 9:34

    Kyle.. I like Semites.. They are the Palestinians and Arabs.. I don’t like anti Semites.. They are killing the relatives of Jesus.

  176. #176 by smokingmirrors on 10/25/2010 - 9:34

    I couldn’t read all of the comments and I don’t know what to think but what I do know is that there are good and bad serpents and that snakes shed their skin. What does that mean? It means that it is possible that Mark Glenn and Jeff Rense are both good guys.

    I don’t know all these players and I have heard things about various people at various times but I take each man or woman as I find them and not on the opinion of others. Everyone gets a chance with me and so far I think I am on good terms with all the principal players and not just the two names mentioned but a good number of alternative news hosters.

    As I understand it, Jeff and Mark were in friendly relations until now and some articles got posted that got objected to and an argument started and escalated. These are trepidous times. Any Christian knows about the house divided against itself and that is how the devil does his work. We all know about Alex Jones and the Rothschilds and we know you don’t get far in this world unless unless you kiss the ring. Metaphysical minds will know that there are various rings, rings that go around a finger and rings that expel noxious wastes and sometime they are the same. I despise deals but in order to live and do some good in the world you seem to be forced to make deals with the devil which is self defeating, I know. This is why I don’t have advertising on my site and why I am a poor man relatively speaking but my hopes are not of this world.

    Jesus said that thing about forgiving your brother seven times seven and other things like it. We seem to forget to emulate the master. Cave Dei Videt (medieval Latin) “Beware, god sees.”

    It’s all a matter of degrees really. In Alex Jones case the good and bad cancel each other out or whatever, I don’t know. In some cases the good outweighs the bad. In some cases the bad outweighs the good. We all have our afflictions and our degrees of integrity. I make mistakes all the time and sometimes when I am not mistaken I am pounded for telling the truth. We hope to be bloodied but unbowed in that sense.

    I do not believe that Jeff would really mean to carry out any threat against Mark. All of us have spoken in anger and lived to regret it. I don’t know what got said. I don’t know much about anything really but I think we are looking at a divide and conquer thing being worked out on both sides by a common enemy. In such cases it is a good idea to take the left hand of the bargain and be sorry, even if you don’t think you were wrong because it heals the moment. Better to heal it when you can than to let the karma run it’s course. Forgive someone while they are still with you, if you know what I mean.

    I hope I am not speaking out of turn or intruding into something that is not my affair but these are perilous times and souls hang in the balance. Every moment is a moment in which to be better than we were and to cast off the darkness of our own ignorance. I am past weeping at my own insufficiency and it all hurts but what can I do. I think most of us try to do our best but we fail. The mark of a true man or woman is to do what can be done even if it means one must suffer unjustly simply in order to serve the greater good.

    God be with you.

  177. #177 by Hany Hanna on 10/25/2010 - 9:34

    MG….I made my original post without Jeff’s knowledge….I omitted the fact I work for him simply because I thought you would think he put me up to it….which he did not….no doubt there are countless wonderful Moslems as there wonderful individuals in any group….there are also numerous psychopaths in all groups…no one is against zionism more than I…I could be living on my grandfathers beautiful property in the stone house he built by hand in Ramallah just a few miles from Jerusalem if it weren’t for the “synagogue of satan” cockroaches that infested the holy land with their terrorism and racism. I’m a Palestinian Arab you fool….and there are deranged psychopathic Moslems too! There are Moslems that hate Christians. Capiche? They are not truly in touch with their faith. The same goes for deranged Christians and Jews. This world is full of psychos.

    –note from me, MG–Ok, I believe you Hany, on all counts.

    As to your question–si, capsico Io che ti sei un Arabo-Palestino, dunque non e’ necessario ad usare le parole brutte–capisci?

    Now, I don’t do this to be pedantic Hani, but rather to make you aware of the fact that your being a Palestinian Arab does not necessarily mean you speak with complete authority on the matter, anymore than you should use the word “capische” in making your point to someone who speaks Italian as a second language.

    The fact of the matter is this–I TOO have family in the Middle East. I TOO come from an “Arab” background like you. No, my family did not flee Haifa, but my family continues being oppressed and even–as took place in 2006 with Israel’s massacre against Lebanon–killed.

    So my point is this–don’t wag your finger in my face and lecture me, paisano. I know full well what I am talking about here.

    As far as Jeff Rense goes, it really doesn’t require advanced education to understand it all. It’s as simple as what you’d learn on your first day of firefighter’s school–“When putting out a fire, throw water, not gasolene”. Whether Jeff is just plain stupid or whether he has other ‘interests’ clouding his thinking, the fact is that by running articles which he knows only do the dirty work of the enemy, namely throwing gasolene on the fire, he is not doing service to the cause of truth. Piss your pants and cry about it all you want, but science is science.

    It would appear, based upon your comments, that you approve of him running anti-Islamic articles? I find this rather interesting, given the theme of this discussion, and I think explains a lot where you are coming from in all of this. You want to hate muslims? Fine. Hate them. Spew your hatred and scream “freedom of speech” until you choke to death on it and the people responsible for engineering WWIII come and kill you too.

    For me, I will use my 1st Amendment right of free speech to oppose those who spew hatred like this, as well as individuals such as Jeff Rense who give them aid, comfort and assistence.

  178. #178 by Hugster on 10/26/2010 - 9:34

    Yes, I too have noticed many odd, untrue and anti-Islamic articles on Rense.com.

    I recall there was an article on Rense.com sent in by someone about a shop being shut on a Shia holiday. The holiday was in commemoration of some Shia saint that shared the name of a supposed 9/11 hijacker.

    The writer claimed that Muslims in American were making holidays for 9/11 hijackers in the US. Rense.com presented this ludicrus letter on their wretched site. I, of course, emailed Rense and explained the error but my correspondence was ignored and the article kept on the site.

  179. #179 by Netwit on 10/26/2010 - 9:34

    So it’s one or t’other: Islam up and Zion down. Of course if you really buy into the “inside job” lunacy, then it stands to reason that Islam is being dealt a bum hand. Or does it? Even without 9-11 most right thinking people would still loath Dubya’s “religion of peace.” Why don’t the truthers just be done with it and do the triple twirl, face Mecca and declare themselves soldiers of submission. Then they can get on with their five times a day squat to Allah, start beating their women with impunity and go out and kick the first dog they meet. That’ll be so much better than kicking someone who kicks back like Rense.

    –note from me, MG–No one is talking about letting Islam ‘take over’ anywhere and if this is your read on it, than all I can say is “sorry charlie” that some of your wires are short circuiting. And no, Rense does not “kick back”. He pulls his punches and leaves people confused. They don’t know who the enemy is, if its lizards or moslems or crop circles or swine flu or whatever. You want the truth? Go to sites like http://www.whatreallyhappened.com where you will be handed facts and not magic acts.

  180. #180 by Hany Hanna on 10/26/2010 - 9:34

    I don’t hate Muslims….I despise psychopaths who thwart peace and brotherhood. I had many Moslem friends in my college days. Islam and Christianity were close allies for most of their history. If you had a beef with the articles why didn’t you take it up with the authors. The point is, Jeff has the right to post whatever without being harassed about it. He’s not trying to influence anyone…he’s providing various viewpoints. He makes his opinions clear but doesn’t expect As an American of Palestinian heritage I want America to be guided by the Christian ideals that inspired our founding forefathers to create our great nation. ANYONE who wants to live in the USA legally and assimilate as an American is more than welcome as far as I’m concerned. And all of us should be able to express our views with equal freedom. We can’t expect everyone to be perfect or perfectly wise. But we should expect them to be free and expect ourselves to defend their rights to express whatever they believe.

    –note from me, MG–yes, and that ‘freedom of expression’ includes me. If it works one way, it works the other.

    Now here is my question to you, being that you are on the ‘inside’ here–Why is it that Jeff Rense is obviously so denuded of any kind of masculine qualities that he cannot step up to the plate and deal with his own problems like a man? Is that what your job is, ‘Hany’, to fight Jeff’s battles for him? Or is it Makow’s? Or Drockton’s? Or whoever? Does this not strike you as odd that he is obviously such a coward that he runs to the Feds when someone voices a disagreement with him?

    You people are simply pathetic. This entire drama should have you people running for you lives from this guy. I mean look at it–He threatens to go to the enemy instead of just handling it like a man and is now running articles claiming I am an assassin out to kill him, and none of you find this symptomatic of someone with deep problems? Wake up people, you are part of a cult and don’t even know it.

  181. #181 by JK on 10/26/2010 - 9:34

    My God, Rense IS nuts! Who else but a fruitcake RUNS stuff like this, that MG is an assassin out to kill him?

    Mark is right–it is a cult and the people who are part of it aren’t even aware.

  182. #182 by smokingmirrors on 10/26/2010 - 9:34

    Brothers… please… consult within. “Make peace with your brother while you are in the way with him”

  183. #183 by Randa on 10/26/2010 - 9:34

    The tone of this “Hany Hanna” is definitely NOT Palestinian. Palestinians do not speak like this. I think he or she or it is a figment of Rense’s pyschopathic mind.

  184. #184 by smokingmirrors on 10/26/2010 - 9:34

    Are Jeff and Mark Friends?

    Did they have a common struggle?

    I don’t know.

    Here are two people struggling against a common enemy. You are being divided against each other by that same enemy. I think i could show you this in ping pong but I guess it doesn’t translate. I have no more to say but I believe you should make peace with your brother when you are in the way.

    –note from me, MG–Hi Les, as always good hearing from you.
    Les, we are not being divided against each other by the same enemy. Jeff is obviously suffering from some type of breakdown. How else to we explain his threats to send FBI and DHS against someone for merely disagreeing with him publically and then running pieces that claim I am out to murder him? I don’t know what kind of pressures he is under, or even if this might be the result of some type of substance abuse on his part, but the fact is that this is not what we would call “normal” behavior and therefore perhaps we should keep this man in our prayers.

  185. #185 by DM on 10/27/2010 - 9:34


    To begin with I’ve read a lot of what you’ve written and I find nothing to contend with. It’s as simple as Zionism=Jews. This is the bone that gets caught in the Rense throat. With Rense it seems that you may say what you will about Zionism but the minute you take that next logical step to identify Jews with Zionism your history on the Rense website.

    A few weeks ago I had an email exchange with Roy Tov over his getting the Rense boot. When I read his offending article I could say that Tov’s reference to locking up Jews in the same manner as we did the Japanese during WWII may have been in poor taste but, in it’s historical context, he was dead on the money. Tov made the case that Jews pose a greater threat to US security than the Japanese ever did but are allowed free reign of the country. Tov is right.

    According to a posting at rense.com Jeff received a complaint from an unnamed source about the article before he pulled the link down. Yesterday I learned the source was Henry Makow. Though I enjoy reading what Makow writes he is another who refuses to connect Jews to Zionism. I’ve learned over the years that you have to substitute the word Jew for the word Illuminati to make sense of what he writes.

    My friend, I may be an aberration in today’s world but I stand firm on the belief that if you purport to report the news in a truthful manner but stop one inch short of the whole truth you’ve as much as lied. Worse than that you’ve misled your reader.

    After the Rense/Jones slugfest sometime back Jeff Rense learned first hand what it was like to run afoul of the Jews. He played holy hell finding a web host to keep his website (his only source of income) afloat. Since then his fear has turned to paranoia and skews his journalistic decisions. In short, if you want the whole truth concerning Jews and their influence the last place to go is rense.com.

    Lucky for us Rense hangs by a thread and I think that Drockton may have served up what’s left of Rense on a platter. Two years ago I couldn’t say what I’m about to say but if you can deliver the coup de grâce more power to you and godspeed. When I finally saw that Jeff cared more about saving his golden goose than he did about telling the whole truth that did it for me.

    I’ve exchanged a few emails over the years with Henry Makow and Devvy Kidd. I think that Henry knows what’s what but lives in fear of the hate laws in Canada. Devvy is just a ditz who, on a lot of issues, is out of her league. I used to respect them both a great deal more than I do today.

    Paul Drockton is a loose cannon. Who’s I haven’t decided yet and it may well be as simple as mental illness meets keyboard.

    This note is to give you as much moral support as I can give a fellow human being. I don’t know all the details about how this rift with Rense came about but I don’t need to know. I firmly believe that you’re right and Rense is wrong. Especially his decision to make the dispute public and to give his loyalists free reign to openly attack you. Paranoid people do some incredibly stupid things.

    The last thing I’ll mention is this, I wish that you’d consider videos on the web. It’s an incredibly powerful medium that reaches more people than print. It allows the public to see the “human” side of you and I believe it would be the drop of honey to increase public awareness of your message and your persona. What better time to launch such a project than now with all the free publicity Rense has served up. Just a thought.

    Keep your powder dry and your eyes open.

  186. #186 by DM on 10/27/2010 - 9:34


    I’d bet the farm that the “major trauma” Jeff is experiencing is 100% financial. Look at all the empty ad space on the site and then all the low rent advertisers who fill the rest. He’s clutching at every conceivable straw to keep himself and his website afloat. Check out the new folks with time slots on rense radio. They’re all about as exciting as reading the ingredients on a cereal box BUT Jeff doesn’t have to worry one bit that they might say something to offend Abe Foxman. It’s pathetic Mark. Alex Jones may have done him in and it may be taking this long for things to completely fall apart. Hell, Jones may still be turning the screws on him. Jeff didn’t deserve what he got out of that one.

    I’ll be the first to admit that Jeff Rense has done an awful lot of good over the course but it’s crunch time. We need people willing to tell the whole truth, name names, connect the dots and let the chips fall where they may. We’re looking down the barrel of WWIII, a complete financial, social and governmental collapse here in the US all at the hands of Zionist and their minions.

    Maybe you guys can work things out. Maybe not. They say that scared money never wins and right now Jeff is running scared. Like I said before, paranoid people do incredibly stupid things so watch your back.

  187. #187 by David Sadler on 10/28/2010 - 9:34

    DM said on October 27, 2010 at 4:30 am


    “… It’s as simple as Zionism=Jews … With Rense it seems that you may say what you will about Zionism but the minute you take that next logical step to identify Jews with Zionism your history on the Rense website.”

    These things are self-evident.
    All Zionists are not Jews.
    All Jews are not Zionists.

    Two examples:

    Christian Zionism

    Jews Against Zionism

    Life in general and policy in particular are much more complex than can be comprehended by those who simply react.

    The statement by the anonymous DM that “Zionism=Jews” means what?

    It can’t mean that all Zionists are Jews because that simply isn’t so. Neither can it mean that all Jews are Zionists. So what does the equation mean?

    There is ample material available on the web to prove both of these realities to an objective person’s satisfaction within a single day of research. The two links above are the portals to that proof for those who are interested in the truth.

    Jews Against Zionism is an especially interesting site because of all the historical documents presented there concerning the birth of Zionism from the beginning of the idea through the political maneuverings that resulted in its creation by the United Nations. The political and religious opposition to the creation of Israel by certain Jewish groups is detailed and documented.

    Principled cohesive policy requires objective thought. It isn’t in America’s best interest to fight Israel’s wars or to allow Zionists to design and execute American domestic and foreign policy. It is also not in America’s best interest to construct policy based upon DM’s simple equation — first and foremost because it simply isn’t factual as the two provided links illustrate.

    –note from me, MG–Agreed David, and all one need do is look at some of the guests I have had on my program–people who are/were “jewish” in whatever context you want to call it but who renounce Zionism. As I have stated many times, they are indispensible in this fight and we are lucky to have them on our side.

  188. #188 by Billy Geier on 10/28/2010 - 9:34

    We all have what many take note as little malfunctioning moments.
    Rense has ups-n-downs, and we tend to keel-haul those the second a glitch that doesn’t fit our individual code of laws. Petri had his F-bombs. Icke blamed Jesus. WHR had trojans hidden on his sites advertisements. The WRH owner still comes off I feel as a mouflon product of Hollywood with simply B acting skills. Many started out from the anger created by September 11th, 2001. Don’t think they aren’t getting offers from big money. When trouble rears it’s collective head, from promoting changes insync with the zio-satanists that a discerning public cannot be diverted when fingers start pointing, all we need to know is greed and power doesn’t always motivate everyone. But being sensible and playing a fool is how we sometimes see the truth.

    Billy Ellipser Geier.

  189. #189 by Big Red on 10/28/2010 - 9:34

    Well I posted a couple comments here basically agreeing with Mr. Glenn on Rense and telling about several email exchanges I’ve had with Kidd and Pull the Wooldridge over your eyes,but I can never find them on here. Also sent an email to Macow which he replied to but never responded to my points. Let’s see if this one gets posted.

    –note from me, MG–they are here Big Red, but the sheer volume of comments has probably played tricks on yor eyes and you have more than likely walked right past them. If yo want me to dig them up let me know.


  190. #190 by Hank on 10/28/2010 - 9:34

    Let’s start an 11th commandment and stop fighting each other. Until we can prove that Rense is a ‘Hal Turner’ then we can assume he’s misguided. We must help him back into the fold (unless of course he’s a gov’t plant). However, we shoud never censor each other. Then we’d be following the gov’t and limiting Free Speech. After all, censorship is everywhere. The gov’t (and their big business cronies) censor free speech, shut down dissent and ban the book “America Deceived II”. Free speech for all.
    Last link (before Google Books bans it also]:

  191. #191 by smokingmirrors on 10/28/2010 - 9:34

    Thank you Billy for that true and Christian beauty. I will watch my language. I will try too. I’m not just Smoking Mirrors but I am Visible Origami also and started as Visible Origami. Smoking Mirrors was just to reach more people and Petri Dish was to wake them up. I’m all those people and streams of consciousness too Let’s all try harder also not push and desire more for ourselves than we need. I’m going to do with less in the future and stop trying to be clever when I’m not.

  192. #192 by laws632 on 10/28/2010 - 9:34

    Les quoting scripture! that’s a hoot : )

    might be hope for you yet lol

    ps I posted today on your last Petri. Don’t dis us real seekers/followers.

    October 26, 2010 at 5:32 am” quoted Jesus lol.


  193. #193 by Jim on 10/28/2010 - 9:34

    Dear Mark,

    Your updated comment suggested that Jeff Rense might well be acting under duress due to enemy action.

    We look after our brothers, not abandon them, especially the sick and wounded.

    No one gets left behind, time to do the right thing.

    Yours sincerely


  194. #194 by Randa on 10/28/2010 - 9:34

    Okay. ENOUGH of the bull*** sweet s*** about Jeff Rense. ENOUGH!!!! If you have some love for Rense, go to Rense.com and you can pour your heart out for this psychopath.

    Jeff Rense is a disuguisting filth of humanity. JEFF RENSE IS A ZIONIST.


  195. #195 by J. A. L. on 10/29/2010 - 9:34

    I don’t know. Listening to Rense tonight with Devvy, Jim and Chelene; he sounded damn good. Damn Good! Not at all like someone tired or “troubled.” In fact I’ve never heard him better, truly. It just shows “Who can one really believe?”

    I can imagine that if Jeff had his own blog and his listeners could respond, the posts on this blog would be a perfect mirror of what was being said on his side. Probably the only difference would be the numbers on Jeff’s blog would be massive in comparison.

    It’s a numbers game and it’s all good for business. A great lesson for us all of what we will all be seeing on a massive scale consuming the globe, just around the corner.

    Who can you trust? Only Pure Consciousness. “Established in the Self perform right action.” It’s the only place where a human will be able to find balance and sanity. Everyone else will experience Hell on Earth.

    Good luck, all.

    Truth alone Triumphs!

  196. #196 by The Avatar on 10/29/2010 - 9:34

    Henry Hanna (or Tony Hanna, what ever) ) you say “I am an American Palestinian. My parents were both born and raised in Palestine; my mother’s family were refugees from Haifa in ’48 losing everything they owned.”

    My Name Is Khaled Hussein and i am the grand son of the Major of der yassin at the time of the massacres in Forty eight.
    My mother´s father (the major of der yassin) was Mohammed Assad (look it up) and was also killed in the massacre along with twenty seven others from the same family.
    My father on the other hand was from a small town outside Ramallah.
    My mother was interviewed by shihan magazine right before she died and counted the dead in her family using the fingers in both hands. (28)
    So whats is your problem disrespecting Mark Glenn? Ah?
    calling him a “spineless fraud!”
    mark has posted worse shit against him than that!
    go ahead add yourself to the other three billion

    BRING IT ON PUNKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  197. #197 by The Avatar on 10/29/2010 - 9:34

    “Fundamentalist Moslems are just as deranged as fundamentalist Christians and Zionists, extremists AND Talmudic Jews.”
    Apparently he and others are trying to “spread the blame” now that THEY COULDN’T PIN SEPTEMBER ELEVEN ON “Fundamentalist Moslems”

    ma3 el 66 ¨al´a
    u dahia Uarak, ia Kazzab ia nassab!
    take a hike, habibi!

  198. #198 by The Avatar on 10/29/2010 - 9:34

    The Way i see it is i dont! i dont see Jeff Rinse RINSING the memory that i still have when sitting next to my mom she counted AND said the names of every one killed each time she moved her index finger in one hand to the next finger in the other hand naming the victims and vice-versa until she was done. Fourteen were children! Three times she used both her hands and every finger had a short death story; Basma (“three years old, killed when A Jew threw a grenade inside their house”), Mohamed (“My uncle and Basma´s father, also killed inside the house while asleep), Mahmud (“Mohamed´s brother, also my uncle only he was the youngest, killed on the road when leaving early to Jerusalem)) Myasaar (“My older cousin, was killed outside”) (“Saffia, Mahmud´s daughter, killed when preparing to go to the water well”), Assad, Yunes, Omar, etc etc etc

    Jeff Rense telling me “ITS YOUR FAULT TOO”?

    go ahead

    TELL ME!

  199. #199 by smokingmirrors on 10/29/2010 - 9:34

    Brothers, STOP IT! You are playing into the hands of the enemy.

    –note from me, MG–Les, I have not posted ANYTHING new except a call for calm. What are you talking about? If it is about the piece remaining on the website, then please specify, as I am at a loss in understanding this. At the same time however, given the fact that Rense is now showcasing articles where I am accused of being not only an intelligence agent plotting to kill him but also a SATANIST I must do what is necessary to protect myself from these outrageous slanders.

  200. #200 by Concrete man on 10/31/2010 - 9:34


    I know you said to let the issue be, and I have for the most part. I even defended Rense for some of the good news coverage he does such as on the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster (I would say his coverage has indeed been excellent on that point).

    I would just like to clear up the record though on one Charlie McGrath, a so called Patriot who has had his youtube videos posted on Rense for some time and now has a radio show on Rense Radio, along with Helium Head herself, Deevee (you must be) Kidding.

    I just heard Charlie say on his radio program that Iran’s president did call for Israel being wiped off the map, and that we should not get involved in such loose talk. Charlie is obviously a very intelligent fellow, so for him to be repeating such Zionist Media crap is beyond the pale. This is not just an oddity regarding his presentation, since he refuses to talk about Zionism in anyway whatsoever (although apparently apologetically).

    It is sad to say since his show offers much insight into economic analysis, but Rense has employed yet another liar into his stable of disinformation artists, therefore I can no longer endorse Charlie McGrath’s work.

    By the way, wack brain DV Kidd ought to know that Sharia Law is only implemented in Saudia Arabia, no other Islamic countries or regions. Also, there is nothing in the main tenets of Islam that support the oppression of women.

    I also recall seeing more disinformation and anti Islam news stories at Rense’s site recently. He is promoting the third rate disinfo artist Drockton shamelessly. He is also promoting anti Islam in subtle and not so subtle ways.

    Your Bigfoot Reporter, Concrete man

  201. #201 by Randa on 10/31/2010 - 9:34

    Like most everything on Rense, it is posted without the permission of the originator/writer. The Gulf of Mexico disaster news on Rense is copied from:


    who has been doing an amazing job of updating all current information. Just to let you know, Concrete Man.

    Another good site is:


  202. #202 by Go Ron Paul Go on 10/31/2010 - 9:34

    How come I never hear any of you call into the Rense show and call Jeff out on the items you mention here?

    Bringing the truth to Jeff’s listeners/followers is much more effective than yelling through this blogg.

    If there is so many of anti-rense people as you proclaim I would think that a handful would be doing just that. But no……

    –note from me, MG–As I understand it, JR does not accept callers on his program. I could be wrong but I have heard this from many people, as well as the fact that the few programs I have been on he never took callers.

  203. #203 by jojo on 11/04/2010 - 9:34

    Rense wears a wig , fake moustache and bronzer. He is always wearing a disguise. How could someone , anyone trust him?

    And Les Vis? What are you going on about? I think you spilled some origami into your petri dish.

  204. #204 by Webmin on 02/09/2011 - 9:34

    So what is your point here Dirty Harry? On one of my yahoo sites Anti-Zionist Canada I have members who ought to be battling the Zionist Jews instead going at each other regarding whether or not Jesus was an actual person or a composite of myths and legends.

    Is this just more side diversion for the purpose of losing focus on the imminent enemy?

  205. #205 by Jean Bush on 02/23/2012 - 9:34

    I’m rather late in seeing this, but may I post it on my site: http://www.americansw.blogspot.com? I’m a friend of Henry Makow and just posted my article on his feud with Jeff.



  206. #206 by Adam Guenther on 02/06/2016 - 9:34

    Let me VERIFY 100% conclusively what Mr.Glenn has stated. In 2005 Jeff Rense called the FBI and homeland security ON MYSELF for sending an e-mail with nothing more then bible verses to one of his columnists. I live in Canada, i had my ISP cut me off and was awakened after midnight by two cops responding for the RCMP, awaking me my wife and 3 children for what was called a “terrorist threat’ reported by Jeff Rense. If I lived down in the states, Mr Rense wouldve been SUED through the ass and you would not be seeing his controlled shill scratchboard online today.


    You look at the bottom left of his site in the red box, #1 WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT!. That is not by mistake! He is the DIRTIEST of them all, doubt it not!

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