The Ugly Truth Podcast Oct 14, 2010


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Alex Jones the most dangerous man in the ‘truth movement”? THINK AGAIN. For all Jones’ danger as an agent of disinformation, at least he is not ready, willing and able to send armed thugs to the home of someone he disagrees with over politically. Come listen to today’s program as we discuss Jeff Rense’s recent threats to have agents of the FBI and Department of Homeland Security visit the home of Mark Glenn, where he resides with his wife and 9 children over a personal dispute.

  1. #1 by The Avatar on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    jeff rense is alex jones on the meth ..
    wait whats that up there?
    an ufooooo!
    ahhhaaaaaaaahhh jeff rense was right!
    help! the ufos are moooolsim too!

  2. #2 by RickB on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    Has Jeff Rense blown his patriot cover doing this? Geeze I hope so.

  3. #3 by kenken on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    Nay, who is there that can help you, even as an army, besides The Lord, the Creator the, Most Powerful? In nothing but delusion are the Zionist.

    Five years or so ago, no one dare to say ENOUGH straight in the face of this warmongers-evil-cabal, but thanks to the two heros whom, I think, started this God-powered movement; John Mearshrimer and Stephen Walt who wrote in 2007 the NY Times Best Seller: The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy.

    This cabal has been living in a delusional fantasy of power for too long, but their time is up. One can read and hear all arownd the world: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

  4. #4 by Ognir on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    Mark I don’t know why you said on several occasions that you were sorry for doing this show, crap IT HAD TO BE DONE and hats off to yourself and Mark (who I don’t know that well)

    UFOs big-toes are bullshit and we don’t have the time for it

    Any while I’m at, that other shite Jonestein with his moneybomb, 330k already given in by his jewish sponsors, follow the money ………..

    Og

    –note from me, MG–Ognir, what I mean in saying I was “sorry” for doing the show is that I don’t like contention. There are plenty of things for us to deal with besides this but as you said, it had to be done. He is exactly the kind of rat that groups such as the ADL and SPLC utilize as snitches on the rest of us and he must be exposed as the potention Judas that he is.

  5. #5 by Amerikagulag on 10/15/2010 - 9:34

    Cold it actually be….Rensenberg?

    Mark, I didn’t listen to the podcast, but if your political differences were enough to bring this on, it suggests that Rense is definitely on the dark side.

  6. #6 by fellist on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    Mr Glenn, I do not like the fact Rense has made these threats, but to really put your listeners in the picture you ought to link the stories Rense ran and the exchanges on the issue on the Islamic forums you mention. The stories may, for all I know, be innocuous or accurate, and it could be that your declared campaign against Rense has inspired other people to make threats against him.

    –note from me, MG–fair enough. The piece in question that brought the situation to the forefront as it is is the following–

    http://www.newmediajournal.us/staff/sobieskey/2009/03192009.htm

    I do not go (and have not for some time) to Rense’s site as there are so many good ones out there such as http://www.whatreallyhappened.com so I don’t know what has appeared on it since then. By the way, when I wrote to Jeff Rense and asked him why he would put such a piece up, given the fact it was nothing but lying, Zionist garbage, his response to me was that this was “my opinion”, the same way you tell someone –“I disagree with you, but I don’t want to start an argument over it”. This, coupled with Rense’s ‘fear’ that “dangerous, violent muslims” are gonna come and “get” him indicates to me that indeed he believes the lies peddled about the Muslims by our friends in teh Jewish media.

  7. #7 by UAZ on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    This, coupled with Rense’s ‘fear’ that “dangerous, violent muslims” are gonna come and “get” him indicates to me that indeed he believes the lies peddled about the Muslims by our friends in teh Jewish media.

    There is no way Rense believes that crap. He has been running anti-Zionist articles for many years, and only recently has he run a few articles about them MOOOZLEMS from a few clowns like Devvy Kidd.

    Please do post any correspondence you may have had with Rense or his staff, if it serves to expose Rense’s threats against you.

    –note from me, MG–Rense has been running anti-Islamic for years, and I know this all too well because I have been CONTACTING him over them for years. In fact, I remember specifically having an exchange with him concerning this issue the very week that my first program on RBN ran, which was late feb 2007.

    As far as any “correspondence” proving the threats, these were done over the phone, first through the person of David Duke who acted as the emmisary for them and then right from Rense’s mouth to my own ears a mere 15 minutes later when I called him personally.

    Whether he believes the MOOOZLEMS are out to git’im or not is irrelevant at this point–by his own actions in threatening to bring the very same agencies down on me that he proposes to fight against, he has not only revealed himself to be a fraud and hypocrite, but as well a potential snitch and informer for–not only the aforementioned federal agencies but others such as the ADL and SPLC as well.

  8. #8 by UAZ on 10/16/2010 - 9:34

    Unless he has orwellianized them, Rense has only posted a small number of anti-Muslim articles ever. Doing a Google search for “sharia” (a term used in about 95% of anti-Muslim screeds) on his site, all I can find are a few articles by Devvy Kidd (recent) and Frosty Wooldridge (recent and older).

    Does he often link to anti-Muslim articles from other sites? Or does he sometimes bash them Mooozlems on his radio show?

    Just to play Devil’s advocate here, could it not be possible that Rense has run some of their articles because they are good friends of his? It’s obvious that he doesn’t care much about factual accuracy, given the many ridiculous stories he posts, but a Kosher conservative/neocon he is not.

    As for the threats, it would be great if you had a record (whether written or an audio recording) of the incident(s) and posted it for all to see. I don’t doubt your word, but many Rense readers/listeners who don’t know you will take Rense’s word over yours.

    note from me, MG–I don’t know what he runs anymore as I have found his site too stupid to take seriously when it comes to doing research. The only reason I have learned about the anti-Islamic screeds as o late is because people send them to me, the most recent and the one acting as the catalyst for all of this being

    http://www.newmediajournal.us/staff/sobieskey/2010/10022010.htm

    However, the real issue is no longer whether he runs anti-Islamic articles or not. The real issue is that we have someone in our midst who has demonstrated his willingness to play the snitch to our common enemies if it suits his purposes.

  9. #9 by UAZ on 10/17/2010 - 9:34

    Yep, that is the more important issue now, and it would be useful if you could produce an audio recording or other evidence to shove in the face of his supporters.

    note from me, MG–there is no audio recording, which would have been illegal for me to do. However, sometime this week we will bring out our ‘witness’, but if you would like more info, I suggest you contact David Duke.

  10. #10 by fellist on 10/19/2010 - 9:34

    Mr Glenn,

    Thanks for the link [ http://www.newmediajournal.us/staff/sobieskey/2009/03192009.htm ]. I imagine I’m a little less inclined than you to look on Islam and Muslims as non-problematical, but that article is just plain hysterical about what I consider a very minor threat and I’m surprised Rense ran it. I quite agree it could be expected to serve no purpose except increase his readers’ openness to the Zionists’ ‘Clash of Civilisations’ propaganda. I don’t necessarily think that was Rense’s intention though. Although you refer to a “movement” of which you, Rense and David Duke are all part, it seems to me that there are important differences among you. Duke, of course, is primarily an advocate for European racial and civilisational interests (in line with my primary concern), while Rense takes a more general anti-NWO position, and your focus is almost entirely on combating Zionist malfeasance and warmongering and on building bridges between religious communities, this forming only part of Duke’s and Rense’s relatively more broad agendas.

    It’s reasonable then, because of these differing emphases, to expect that Duke and Rense will be more resistant to Islamic (and other) immigration and increased cultural influence than you, and will sometimes highlight the ethnic, religious and cultural tensions between the traditionally White and Christian West and recently arrived Asian and African Muslim (and other) populations. And not all of the Islam related statements or articles they write/ make/ host will be of the absolute highest quality, and if, as I suspect, Duke and Rense are like me a little less relaxed about Islam and Muslims than you, some will certainly not meet your ideal standard of tolerance. But surely that’s tolerable — and true for other issues and groups as well? You are measured and scholarly in your analysis of Judaism and Zionism and Rense posts material of comparable quality on those subjects, but also some much less rigorous stuff. Rense.com is home to literally hundreds more articles on Jews and Zionists than on Muslims, and quite a number match Martel Sobieskey’s article about Islam for exaggeration, error, and whatever other flaws we might see there. But you do not complain about them. Is not Rense’s single inconsistent standard more ethical than your double standard? And did this really need to be your fight anyway? Let Hesham Tillawi – whom I very much admire – or some other Muslim take this fight to Rense. Fighting their battles for them isn’t really any less colonialist than taking a battle to them, you know.

    All that said, both your complaints about Rense are valid: he’s running bad, really bad, neoconnish articles about a largely illusory problem that will only aid the war party and the domestic divide and rule agenda; and the threat he made was outrageous and suggestive of a serious character flaw at best (assuming he had no well-grounded fear of being attacked because of your public campaign. It would be nice to know where to find the discussions on the forums you refer to in the podcast.) I just hope this spat won’t run on and on. It would be a crime for you all to be diverted from your real and valuable work.

    My regards, f.

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