Jesus was Palestinian and why it matters


By Jehanzeb Dar

Because of modern alarmist reactions to the word “Palestine,” many non-Arabs and non-Muslims take offense when it is argued that Jesus was a Palestinian (peace be upon him).

Jesus’ ethnicity, skin color, and culture often accompany this conversation, but few people are willing to acknowledge the fact he was non-European. A simple stroll down the Christmas aisle will show you the dominant depiction of Jesus: a blonde-haired, blue-eyed, white man.

Islamophobia and anti-Arab propaganda have conditioned us to view Palestinians as nothing but heartless suicide bombers, “terrorists,” and “enemies of freedom and democracy.” Perpetual media vilification and demonization of Palestinians, in contrast to the glorification of Israel, obstructs us from seeing serious issues such as the Palestinian refugee crisis, the victims of Israel’s atrocious three-week assault on Gaza during the winter of 2008-2009, the tens of thousands of homeless Palestinians, and many other struggles that are constantly addressed by human rights activists around the world.

To speak from the perspective of the Palestinians, especially in casual non-Arab and non-Muslim settings, generates controversy because of the alignment between Palestinians and violent stereotypes. So, how could Jesus belong to a group of people that we’re taught to dehumanize?

When I’ve spoken to people about this, I’ve noticed the following responses: “No, Jesus was a Jew,” or “Jesus is not Muslim.” The mistake isn’t a surprise to me, but it certainly is revealing. Being a Palestinian does not mean one is Muslim or vice versa. Prior to the brutal and unjust dispossession of indigenous Palestinians during the creation of the state of Israel, the word “Palestine” was a geographic term applied to Palestinian Muslims, Palestinian Christians, and Palestinian Jews. Although most Palestinians are Muslim today, there is a significant Palestinian Christian minority who are often overlooked, especially by the mainstream Western media.

That dominant narrative not only distorts and misrepresents the Palestinian struggle as a religious conflict between “Muslims and Jews,” but consequentially pushes the lives of Palestinian Christians into “non-existence.” That is, due to the media’s reluctance to report the experiences and stories of Palestinian Christians, it isn’t a surprise when white Americans are astonished by the fact that Palestinian and Arab Christians do, in fact, exist. One could argue that the very existence of Palestinian Christians is threatening, as it disrupts the sweeping and overly-simplistic “Muslim vs. Jew” Zionist narrative. To learn about many Palestinian Christians opposing Israeli military occupation, as well as Jews who oppose the occupation, is to reveal more voices, perspectives, and complexities to a conflict that has been immensely portrayed as one-sided, anti-Palestinian, and anti-Muslim.

Yeshua (Jesus’ real Aramaic name) was born in Bethlehem, a Palestinian city in the West Bank and home to one of the largest Palestinian Christian communities. The Church of the Nativity, one of the oldest churches in the world, marks the birthplace of Jesus and is sacred to both Christians and Muslims. While tourists from the around the world visit the site, they are subject to Israeli checkpoints and roadblocks. The Israeli construction of the West Bank barrier also severely restricts travel for local Palestinians. In April of 2010, Israeli authorities barred Palestinian Christians from entering Jerusalem and visiting the Church of Holy Sepulchre during Easter. Yosef Zabaneh, a Palestinian Christian merchant in Ramallah, said: “The Israeli occupation in Gaza and the West Bank doesn’t distinguish between us, but treats all Palestinians with contempt.”

Zabaneh’s comments allude to the persistent dehumanization of Palestinians, as well as the erasure of Palestinians, both Christians and Muslims. By constantly casting Palestinians as the villains, even the term “Palestine” becomes “evil.” There is refusal to recognize, for example, that the word “Palestine” was used as early as the 5th century BCE by the ancient Greek historian Herodotus. John Bimson, author of “The Compact Handbook of Old Testament Life,” acknowledges the objection to the use of “Palestine”:

The term ‘Palestine’ is derived from the Philistines. In the fifth century BC the Greek historian Herodotus seems to have used the term Palaistine Syria (= Philistine Syria) to refer to the whole region between Phoenicia and the Lebanon mountains in the north and Egypt in the south… Today the name “Palestine” has political overtones which many find objectionable, and for that reason some writers deliberately avoid using it. However, the alternatives are either too clumsy to be used repeatedly or else they are inaccurate when applied to certain periods, so “Palestine” remains a useful term…

Deliberately avoiding the use of the name “Palestine” not only misrepresents history, but also reinforces anti-Palestinian racism as acceptable. When one examines the argument against Jesus being a Palestinian, one detects a remarkable amount of hostility aimed at both Palestinians and Muslims. One cannot help but wonder, is there something threatening about identifying Jesus as a Palestinian? Professor Jack D. Forbes writes about Jesus’ multi-cultural and multi-ethnic environment:

When the Romans came to dominate the area, they used the name Palestine. Thus, when Yehoshu’a [Jesus] was born, he was born a Palestinian as were all of the inhabitants of the region, Jews and non-Jews. He was also a Nazarene (being born in Nazareth) and a Galilean (born in the region of Galilee)… At the time of Yehoshu’a’s birth, Palestine was inhabited by Jews-descendants of Hebrews, Canaanites, and many other Semitic peoples-and also by Phoenicians, Syrians, Greeks, and even Arabs.

Despite these facts, there are those who use the color-blind argument: “It does not matter what Jesus’ ethnicity or skin color was. It does not matter what language he spoke. Jesus is for all people, whether you’re black, white, brown, yellow, etc.” While this is a well-intentioned expression of inclusiveness and universalism, it misses the point.

When we see so many depictions of Jesus as a Euro-American white man, the ethnocentrism and race-bending needs to be called out. In respect to language, for instance, Neil Douglas-Klotz, author of “The Hidden Gospel: Decoding the Spiritual Message of the Aramaic Jesus,” emphasizes the importance of understanding that Jesus spoke Aramaic, not English, and that his words, as well as his worldview, must be understood in light of Middle Eastern language and spirituality. Douglas-Klotz provides an interesting example which reminds me of the rich depth and meaning of Arabic, Urdu, and Farsi words, especially the word for “spirit”:

Whenever a saying of Jesus refers to spirit, we must remember that he would have used an Aramaic or Hebrew word. In both of these languages, the same word stands for spirit, breath, air, and wind. So ‘Holy Spirit’ must also be ‘Holy Breath.’ The duality between spirit and body, which we often take for granted in our Western languages falls away. If Jesus made the famous statement about speaking or sinning against the Holy Spirit (for instance, in Luke 12:10), then somehow the Middle Eastern concept of breath is also involved.

Certainly, no person is superior to another based on culture, language, or skin color, but to ignore the way Jesus’ whiteness has been used to subjugate and discriminate against racial minorities in the West and many other countries is to overlook another important aspect of Jesus’ teachings: Love thy neighbor as thyself. Malcolm X wrote about white supremacists and slave-owners using Christianity to justify their “moral” and “racial superiority” over blacks. In Malcolm’s own words, “The Holy Bible in the White man’s hands and its interpretations of it have been the greatest single ideological weapon for enslaving millions of non-white human beings.” Throughout history, whether it was in Jerusalem, Spain, India, Africa, or in the Americas, white so-called “Christians” cultivated a distorted interpretation of religion that was compatible with their racist, colonialist agenda.

And here we are in the 21st century where Islamophobia (also stemming from racism because the religion of Islam gets racialized) is on the rise; where people calling themselves “Christian” fear to have a black president; where members of the KKK and anti-immigration movements behave as if Jesus were an intolerant white American racist who only spoke English despite being born in the Middle East. It is astonishing how so-called “Christians” like Ann Coulter call Muslims “rag-heads” when in actuality, Jesus himself would fit the profile of a “rag-head,” too. As would Moses, Joseph, Abraham, and the rest of the Prophets (peace be upon them all). As William Rivers Pitt writes:

The ugly truth which never even occurs to most Americans is that Jesus looked a lot more like an Iraqi, like an Afghani, like a Palestinian, like an Arab, than any of the paintings which grace the walls of American churches from sea to shining sea. This was an uncomfortable fact before September 11. After the attack, it became almost a moral imperative to put as much distance between Americans and people from the Middle East as possible. Now, to suggest that Jesus shared a genealogical heritage and physical similarity to the people sitting in dog cages down in Guantanamo is to dance along the edge of treason.

Without acknowledging Jesus as a native Middle Eastern person — a Palestinian — who spoke Aramaic — a Semitic language that is ancestral to Arabic and Hebrew — the West will continue to view Islam as a “foreign religion.” Hate crimes and discriminatory acts against Muslims, Arabs, and others who are perceived to be Muslim will persist. They will still be treated as “cultural outsiders.” Interesting enough, Christianity and Judaism are never considered “foreign religions,” despite having Middle Eastern origins, like Islam. As Douglas-Klotz insists, affirming Jesus as a native Middle Eastern person “enables Christians to understand that the mind and message” of Jesus arises from “the same earth as have the traditions of their Jewish and Muslim sisters and brothers.”

Jesus would not prefer one race or group of people over another. I believe he would condemn today’s demonization and dehumanization of the Palestinian people, as well as the misrepresentations of him that only fuel ignorance and ethnocentrism. As a Muslim, I believe Jesus was a prophet of God, and if I were to have any say about the Christmas spirit, it would be based on Jesus’ character: humility, compassion, and Love. A love in which all people, regardless of ethnicity, race, culture, religion, gender, and sexual orientation are respected and appreciated.

And in that spirit, I wish you a merry Christmas. Alaha Natarak (Aramaic: God be with you). 

The author blogs at Muslim Reverie. He recently wrote a chapter in “Teaching Against Islamophobia” on the demonization of Muslims and Arabs in mainstream American comics.

  1. #1 by CK on 12/20/2011 - 4:15 pm

    Excellent article. I wholeheartedly agree. Jesus was a Palestinian and to persecute Palestinians is to crucify Him all over again.

  2. #2 by amerikagulag on 12/20/2011 - 6:10 pm

    The Israeli treatment if the Palestinian people is the biggest anti-Semitic crime of the century.

    Bibi Netanyahu is a Lithuanian – not a Semite at all.. His real name is Milikovsky. And the majority of people who’ve been imported to the land formerly known as Palestine are not semitic people. Bur the Bolshevik jews of the Soviet Union did much the same thing to the Baltic States. They imported Russians and gave them the land, the houses and the names and deported the native Latvian, Estonian and Lithuanian people to Siberia to die – by the millions. Jew means Semite like Catholic means Swedish.

  3. #3 by Vickie Jacobs on 12/20/2011 - 6:34 pm

    Excellent article. There are no descriptions in the bible but if God wanted he’d made it known what he looked like and he didn’t. He was the Word of God…not the picture. He was from the north of Africa. Everything we have known in the western world has been turned upside down.

  4. #4 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/20/2011 - 7:27 pm

    Jehanzeb Dar
    Because of modern alarmist reactions to the word “Palestine,” many non-Arabs and non-Muslims take offense when it is argued that Jesus was a Palestinian (peace be upon him).

    I told Pr Richard Dawkins (many times) that he was a racist, a religious fanatic (of his extremist religion of Militant Atheism), a fool and a liar because he wrote that all people who believe in GOD or the supernatural or who practice a religion were DELUDED!

    But what does it matter whether there is a God or not?

    GOD (in whatever language) IS A REALITY.
    RELIGION IS A REALITY.
    FAITH IS A REALITY.
    PEOPLE OF FAITH ARE NOT SUICIDAL BUT PEOPLE OF HOPE.

    This is the scientific (science = knowledge) truth that animologist Dawkins and other Atheist fanatics refuse to admit.

    European Kings and Popes banned all the non European languages. Roger Bacon (1214–1294), also known as Doctor Mirabilis – meaning “wonderful teacher”, was an English philosopher and Franciscan Friar who used to wear oriental dress and had Muslim and other Arab –speaking teachers, and this enraged the Church who threatened him and ordered him to never speak in Arabic or mention the achievements of Arabs and Muslims in his lectures.

    So, it is quite understandable why Europe refused to the Arab-speaking Christians to even call God ALLAH as they had decided that the word God in any European language was the exclusive property of the Europeans and that Allah on the other side was the exclusive one for Muslims. They even shunned all original Oriental names of Jesus, like Yeshua, Yehoshuah, ‘Isa, etc.

    Check the meaning of the world PHILISTINE in the dictionary and see how the Bible treated the Philistins or Palestinians. The word “Palestine” was thus made to be understood as an exclusively Muslim term and the Palestinian people as exclusively of Muslim Arab stock, which, of course, is absolute nonsense.

    During the period known in Europe as the DARK AGES, 800-1500 C.E., essentially all scientific works were written in Arabic and European priesthood and Popes had to learn Arabic in order to have access to science (knowledge).

    Robert Briffault in the “Making of Humanity”

    “It was under the influence of the Arabs and Moorish revival of culture and not in the 15th century, that a real renaissance took place. Spain, not Italy, was the cradle of the rebirth of Europe.

    George Sarton’s Tribute to Muslim Scientists in the “Introduction to the History of Science,”

    “It will suffice here to evoke a few glorious names without contemporary equivalents in the West: Jabir ibn Haiyan, al-Kindi, al-Khwarizmi, al-Fargani, al-Razi, Thabit ibn Qurra, al-Battani, Hunain ibn Ishaq, al-Farabi, Ibrahim ibn Sinan, al-Masudi, al-Tabari, Abul Wafa, ‘Ali ibn Abbas, Abul Qasim, Ibn al-Jazzar, al-Biruni, Ibn Sina, Ibn Yunus, al-Kashi, Ibn al-Haitham, ‘Ali Ibn ‘Isa al-Ghazali, al-zarqab, Omar Khayyam. A magnificent array of names which it would not be difficult to extend. If anyone tells you that the Middle Ages were scientifically sterile, just quote these men to him, all of whom flourished within a short period, 750 to 1100 A.D.”

    Although the Christian God was Jewish (a joke!), JESUS WAS A PALESTINIAN whether the world likes it or not and there was no such thing as the Hebrew language but only the PHOENICIAN-CANANITE language which was hijacked and later called Hebrew!

    Did we not see how the Jews stole Palestine and called it Israel (ISIS RA EL) and then claimed that there were no such people as the Palestinians?

    The Children of this triune God or this Trinity of Gods are the real Children of the Devil as we have seen in modern parlance and politics!

    Basheer

  5. #5 by Adalberto Erazo on 12/20/2011 - 8:05 pm

    Millions of people in the west will be in for a surprise when they die and find out Jesus is a Palestinian.

  6. #6 by Oscar on 12/20/2011 - 8:24 pm

    Well he certainly wasn’t a pharisee or khazar.

    That’s why they deliberately mistranslated the bible, mixing Judean with pharisee and tribes of Judah (sic-israel), in order to muddy the waters for satanic parasite pharisees to usurp Christianity of any morals and wealth. Then all the rest of the nations’ clandestine parasites point and say “See, look! A sacrifice/scapegoat’s in order!”, to pay for all your sins and hypocrisy.

  7. #7 by Jeff Mills on 12/20/2011 - 8:35 pm

    For all of you condemning Palestine and praising peace lovers like Israel wake up. Let Xmas 2011 be the last one that the Palestinian people live without true statehood and rights that go with that.

  8. #8 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/20/2011 - 9:39 pm

    “Islamophobia and anti-Arab propaganda have conditioned us to view Palestinians as nothing but heartless suicide bombers, “terrorists,” and “enemies of freedom and democracy.””

    Islamophobia is the wrong term. Th Atom bomb owning European nations do not suffer feom a phobia and are not scared of Islam. They just HATE Islam, Arabs and Muslims. A more proper term would be MISISLAMISM, but as this term sounds so difficult to pronounce and unpalatable to use, the European cretinensia borrowed the term homophobia (which too is the wrong term) and have been using it since.

    Anti-Arab, anti-Muslim and anti-Islamic hatred and racism is not Islamophobia, but just RACISM!

    It has already been shown here that Jews were the first known terrorists and suicide bombers. No Muslim in his right mind will ever contemplate blowing himself up because it is haraam in islam. Now, heavily traumatised people and people who have nothing to lose because the Western Devils and their Jewish acolytes have decimated their entire families, demolished their houses, tortured them and starved them, may resort to such desperate acts.

    I was never afraid of Sodomites and never will be, but I will never keep their company or allow them to educate or teach my children or baby-sit any one of them for the simple reason that they are degenerates and perverts. I am simply ALLERGIC to them!

    Basheer

  9. #9 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/20/2011 - 9:46 pm

    “… consequentially pushes the lives of Palestinian Christians into “non-existence.””

    With the blessings, approval and support of the Zionist Popes and the Churches!

    Basheer

  10. #10 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/20/2011 - 9:53 pm

    Dr. Khalid Tariq Al-Mansur – an International Attorney and Businessman, educated at Harvard University, where he majored in Philosophy and Logic, and at the University of California School of Law at Berkeley where he received his Doctor of Jurisprudence degree.

    Dr Mansur proved that Isma’il was Black and shows how both Judaism and Christianity were Europeanised, and made God White, Jesus White, blond and blue eyed, Mary White and so on.

    Basheer

  11. #11 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/20/2011 - 10:41 pm

    In the Gospel according to MARK, Jesus was the ORIGINAL JESUS who worshipped the ONE GOD, but LATER Gospels distorted many aspects of Mark creating a completely NEW JESUS.

    So, who are we talking about?

    BAFS

  12. #12 by Billy on 12/20/2011 - 10:51 pm

    BAFS,

    One can read the letter from Pilate TO Caesar vividly describing Christ, and as a White man, with golden colored hair.
    The letter or copy of it, is on display at the Library Congress in DC.

    Seconldy, Popes never banned European languages, They canonized Latin and Greek as the langages of the Masses, much later, but Mass was also said in Arabic, and many, many languages were spoken. Different cultures thrived through and because of the Western Church.

    You really should read Thomas Woods-How The Catholic Church Built Western Civilization.

  13. #13 by Billy on 12/20/2011 - 10:57 pm

    LETTER TO TIBERIUS CAESAR FROM PONTIUS PILATE

    (The original of this letter is in the library of Rome. An authenticated copy is in the Library of Congress in Washington, D.C.)

    ‘A young man appeared in Galilee preaching with humble unction, a new law in the Name of the God that had sent Him. At first I was apprehensive that His design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the Jews.
    One day, I observed in the midst of a group of people a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude.

    I was told that his name was Jesus.
    This I could easily have suspected, so great was the difference between Him and those who were listening to Him.
    His golden coloured hair and His beard gave to His appearance a celestial aspect.
    He appeared to be about thirty years of age. Never have I seen a sweeter or more serene countenance.
    What a contrast between Him and His hearers with their black beards and tawny complexions. Unwilling to interrupt Him by my presence, I continued my walk but signified to my secretary to join the group and listen.
    Later, my secretary reported that never had he read in the words of all the philosophers, anything that compared to the teachings of Jesus. He told me that Jesus was neither seditious nor rebellious, so we extended to Him our protection. He was at liberty to act, to speak, to assemble, and to address the people. This unlimited freedom provoked the Jews – not the poor but the rich and powerful.

    Later, I wrote to Jesus requesting an interview with Him at the Praetorium. He came. When the Nazarene made His appearance I was having a morning walk and as I faced Him my feet seemed fastened with an iron band to the marble pavement and I trembled in every limb, as a guilty culprit, though He was calm. For some time I stood admiring this extraordinary Man.
    There was nothing in Him that was repelling nor in His character, yet I felt awed in His presence. I told Him that there was a magnetic simplicity about Him and His personality that elevated Him far above the philosophers and teachers of His day. All in all He made a deep impression upon me and everyone because of His kindness, simplicity, humility and love.

    Now, Noble Sovereign, these are the facts concerning Jesus of Nazareth and I have taken tirne to write you in detail concerning these matters. I say that such a man who could convert water into wine, change death into life, disease into health, calm the stormy seas, is not guilty of any criminal offence and as others have said, we must agree truly this is the Son of God!’

    Your most obedient servant,

    PONTIUS PILATE

  14. #14 by Nalik - Junis on 12/20/2011 - 11:21 pm

    Basheer: You comments are good, interesting and a welcome addition to the articles Mark posts. Keep up the good work. 🙂

  15. #16 by Oscar on 12/21/2011 - 2:22 am

  16. #17 by Ingrid B on 12/21/2011 - 3:57 am

    @Billy, letters can, and have been, forged..

  17. #18 by Mahmoud El-Yousseph on 12/21/2011 - 4:26 am

    I like this new Palestinian flag design. It reminds me of the flag of Saudi Arabia. The Saudi flag is the only flag in the world that will not fly half-mast.

    At least this flag will not fly at half masked, as it is done in may countries as a symbol of respect , mourning, or distress.

    The design also reemphasizes the point the the point that Jesus[pbuh] was born and raised in Bethlehem, Palestine, Thus makes him a Palestinian!

    Job well done Mark!.

  18. #19 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/21/2011 - 8:51 am

    “I was told that his name was Jesus.
    “His golden coloured hair and His beard …
    “I wrote to Jesus requesting an interview with Him at the Praetorium.
    “Now, Noble Sovereign, these are the facts concerning Jesus of Nazareth and I have taken time to write you in detail concerning these matters. I say that such a man who could convert water into wine, change death into life, disease into health, calm the stormy seas, is not guilty of any criminal offence and as others have said, we must agree truly this is the Son of God!’

    A WHITE FORGERY
    SATAN’S HANDIWORK

    Promoting a forgery should serve only one purpose: to prove to us never to believe anything that historians write until we have done our own research.

    We do not have to study the Bible to prove how unreliable the European Christian and other records are.

    Jesus and Muhammad abolished racism, but the White Europeans practised it all along the centuries and millennia and institutionalised it.

    Basheer

  19. #20 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/21/2011 - 9:13 am

    Should rather read

    FORGERY LETTER TO TIBERIUS CAESAR FROM PONTIUS PILATE

    (The original of this FORGERY is in the library of Rome. An authenticated copy is in the Library of Congress in Washington, D.C.)

    The Vatican has the richest library in the world on these ancient matters, but all is hidden from the world.

    REMINDER

    I have never come across any Roman historical record proving the existence of Jesus or of his crucifixion. I watched this year 24 lectures by Pr Bart Ehrman (on the subject) and he did not come up with a single historical record to prove the existence of Jesus because THERE IS NONE!

    BAFS

  20. #21 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/21/2011 - 9:35 am

    Billy says:
    December 20, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    “BAFS,

    One can read the letter from Pilate TO Caesar vividly describing Christ, and as a White man, with golden colored hair.
    The letter or copy of it, is on display at the Library Congress in DC.”

    PLEASE, DO NOT PROMOTE THAT FORGERY AS YOUR EVIDENCE!

    “Seconldy, Popes never banned European languages,…”

    I wrote NON European languages, but I should have written the WHITE RACIST POPES!

    “You really should read Thomas Woods-How The Catholic Church Built Western Civilization.”

    First, admit the truth, then we can take it further. Listen to Brother Shabir Ally and see how every time preaching Christians lose an argument and is proven wrong, they try to drag us on new areas while still carrying with them their old lies because they do not give a damn about THE TRUTH!

    Rome has really made a big fuss about the 3 year long mission of that non historical figure we call Jesus. Were it not for Islam, there would not be any mention of him at all today as half of Christendom has stopped believing in him. They preferred Halloween, Christmas without Christ, Easter, and other carnivals rather than Christian virtues.

    You do not seem to know much about the burned Gospels, the early Christian writings and the “Apocrypha”, and the other Jesuses at the time of Jesus and those ones before his time.

    Some people will never learn. Shabir Ally is excellent and one of the best the world has in Christian scriptural matters.

    Let me give you another lousy forgery in the “Old Testament” and responsible of much of our modern tribulations.

    WHO WAS THE “ONLY BEGOTTEN SON” OF “THE SACRIFICE” AND WITH WHOM WAS THE “ETERNAL COVENANT BETWEEN GOD AND ABRAHAM” MADE?

    Basheer

  21. #22 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/21/2011 - 10:15 am

    Billy says:
    December 20, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    BAFS,

    “You really should read Thomas Woods-How The Catholic Church Built Western Civilization.”

    Why should we do that when you do not give a damn about what others like Shabir Ally or Dr Khalid Mansur have to say?

    Why should you ignore them?

    Why should we accept your references as unique or superior?

    Where is your fairness? When will you learn to be fair?

    It is useless trying to convince you as your agenda is set.

    Basheer

  22. #23 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/21/2011 - 11:04 am

    We will never get rid of European racism, and as it evolves it changes name. Today, Blacks (like Whoopie Goldberg, Sammy Davis Junior, Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, Barack Obama, and Hindus (and Jews, of course!) have joined Europeans in their racism and have been indoctrinated to hate what Europeans and Americans hate and love what they love.

    Europeans are real dwarfs in matters of humanity, compassion and human comprehension – real intellectual pygmies – creatures under five feet (1.5 meters) in height when it comes to human rights, the love of freedom, justice and THE TRUTH. Only their claims are legitimate and never to be questioned and make all the tyrannical laws that oppress our world today. I call this fascism. Too few of them are awake to the real world.

    MUSSOLINI HA SEMPRE RAGIONE!

    Basheer

  23. #24 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/21/2011 - 12:57 pm

    Nalik – Junis says:
    December 20, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    “Basheer: You comments are good,…”

    Excellent, you mean, but good enough to make some have nightmares!
    Thanks anyway.

    Basheer

  24. #25 by reasonmadnesschoice on 12/21/2011 - 1:52 pm

    Thank you Mark for running this article. I thought this was truly relevant when I read it.

  25. #26 by Billy on 12/21/2011 - 2:26 pm

    (consequentially pushes the lives of Palestinian Christians into “non-existence.””
    With the blessings, approval and support of the Zionist Popes and the Churches!
    Basheer)

    Basheer,

    Pope Pius X met with Zionist founder Hertzl long before Israel was a state, and denied his request for a Zionist state in the Holy Land.
    How long will you continue to put out mistruths, untruths, and half truths?

    For 1948 years, the Catholic Church kept these monsters on the defensive, in caged walled ghettos, forbidding them many professions (medicine governement, education, law) and expelled them from 108 European Catholic nation states.

    When they were expelled, such as in the Spanish Inquisition, it was with Muslims whom they departed with (back to North Africa and Greece) that they left with, seeking safety, and finding it.
    You cant have it both ways.

    You recuse yourself and your Faith from any culpability into the present disaster we find ourselves in, yet Jews and Muslims had were in an alliance as they left Spain together and journeyed back to North Africa and the throughout the Med.

    You also wrongly denigrate the only Insitution that was able to keep ‘them’ on their heels, and managed to do so for two millenia. But amazingly, you and others claim the Church was too harsh, or in this case, not harsh enough…

    note from me, MG–as a practicing Catholic, nevertheless there are some uncomfortable truths that have to be asserted here, and this means giving a nod towards Basheer’s position.

    While it is true that Pius X did not give the church’s assent towards the re-creation of a Jewish state in Palestine, at the same time he remained disturbingly silent on the matter in its aftermath, despite the fact that any sane person could see what was to come of this. So while we can distinguish his position from that of the rest of Europe’s leades wh favored emptying their ghettos of these troublesome people, at the same time he remained close mouthed about the dangers that this new development was sure to bring, and in that respect, he was certainly culpable. After all, if instead of Palestine, Herzl had suggested to the Pope that Vatican city and all church property world wide were to be approbated to the Jews, are we really to expect that he would have habdled it the same way, meaning to say ‘well, no, we don’t think this is such a good idea’ and then leave it at that? I highly doubt it.

    As far as the rest of the popes since that time, it is a no brainer–the Jews have gotten everything they wanted without so much as a whimper from the heads of the most powerful Christian faith in the world. The very brave Bishop Richard Williamson has done more in 5 minutes in exposing the jews and their agenda than the sum of all the popes of the 20 (and now 21st) century and not until the jews carry out their final plan–which is to blow up the vatican and blame it on muslims, will these catholic leaders realize that now is too late to decide to start fighting when they should have done it a century ago.

  26. #27 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/21/2011 - 5:33 pm

    Billy says:
    December 21, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    (consequentially pushes the lives of Palestinian Christians into “non-existence.””

    “With the blessings, approval and support of the Zionist Popes and the Churches!
    Basheer)”

    Dear Billy

    Are you using your brain or what?

    “First, admit the truth, then we can take it further. Listen to Brother Shabir Ally and see how every time preaching Christians lose an argument and is proven wrong, they try to drag us on new areas while still carrying with them their old lies because they do not give a damn about THE TRUTH!”

    Did the Zionist Popes ( I know of two only John Paul II and Ratzinger) did they not approve, support or bless the Zionists who stole Palestine from both Muslims and Christians?

    YES or NO, did they or did they not? No need preaching instead of answering!

    “For 1948 years, the Catholic Church kept these monsters on the defensive, in caged walled ghettos, forbidding them many professions (medicine governement, education, law) and expelled them from 108 European Catholic nation states.”

    You are getting mixed up with the chronology of events here!

    “For 1948 years, the Catholic Church kept these monsters on the defensive, in caged walled ghettos,…”

    THIS IS NONSENSE AND MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A FOOL! Why don’t you learn about history and then try to teach others?

    From my past experience with Jews, they never stopped saying that THEY THEMSELVES chose to live in ghettoes because they refused to mix or assimilate with the gentiles! They wanted to keep their breed “PURE”.

    Then, recently they changed their minds in France and said they had ALREADY ASSIMILATED and better than any other “ethnic” group has ever done in French history! Now, they claim to be more French than the natives! As they are the ones running France, they forced the Catholic Church to remove 1 million Bibles from the sales (destroyed, burnt…?) because it contained the old Jewish label of “INASSIMILABLE” they gave to themselves for thousands of years.

    In Spain, the Jews left with the Muslims? This is not history. The poor Jews left as always, but not the rich ones! And the Crypto-Jews who stayed behind, and Christopher Colombus, the American bootleggers and the Jewish American Mafia, the Rothschilds,…?

    The rich Jews leave only when they have bled the country dry like they did in Egypt and had to run away for their lives!

    It is true however that in Rome they were not allowed to built a Jewish Temple that was too Jewish on the outside, but they created their own ghettoes like in Warsaw. How come that Poland was the most renowned JEWISH PARADISE ON EARTH after SALONIKA? Today the entire West is a JEWISH PARADISE! But, we’ll make sure that ISRAEL REMAINS AN ETERNAL HELL FOR THEM!

    I make no claim. I just go through the available facts when they cannot be proven to be true, which is unfortunately not always the case.

    If you really like the truth, then be a good guy and face it when you see it.

    Regards
    Basheer

  27. #28 by bill on 12/21/2011 - 7:11 pm

    BASF,

    It is claimed that the Protocols of Zion are a forgery too….

    Christ looked nothing like the dark complected Edomites, in early paintings HE is almost always depicted JUST as described BY Pilate in letters to Caesar. A serene, light complected, golden hair man, in contrast to the Edomites, whom he called the Synagogue of Satan.

    The record stands and youve yet to disprove it.
    Catholicism BUILT western Civilization, spread the gospels, albeit peacefully in large part, and kept Jewry in line and on the defensive.
    Millions of Jews left Spain BY Force, not choice, with 200,000 put on trial for their crimes, subversion and complicity, and they both let with, and settled with Muslims upon leaving. (They were secretly funding Muslim war parties among other things, and one of the reasons for their eviction.) Evictiioon from Spain was one of 107 evictions.

    Now You just jumped 500 years to rag selling Krakow rat Jewish bootleggers who buiilt fortunes during periods of Prohibition, from the Inquisition…
    Fact: Crypto Jews are just as much if not more of a factor IN the Islamaic Faith as with Christianity, yet Youve yet to utter a single word or sentence about this, or their complicity in such matters.

    And NO, they werent confined to Ghettos out of choice, they had NO choice in the matter, just as they had no choice about entering fields of Medicine, Government, Law or Education-those were NOT options available for them. But strictly kept LAWS.
    As for the wealthy ones, their wealth was confiscated throughout history, BY the People and Monarchy(s) at Eviction time.

    THe only thing I agree with you on is the Post Vatican 2 Church and its ‘Popes’ which are in fact Anti Popes. The rest is nonsense.
    Youre in denial, and I dont mean the river in Egypt,. read Thomas Woods and get back to me.

    Mark,
    We agree on Pope Pius X, he could’ve and should’ve warned the world of such plans of the Zionists, of course, hindsight is 20/20.
    At the time, no such nation existed, it was really a non issue until 1947, decades after he met and refused Hertzls request for a state.
    The Protest-ants and Freemasons are more to blame for helping to destroy Christianity keeping Zio Jews on their heels, then Muslims.
    All was well until the 30 and 100 years war, and later French Revoltuion, when the beasts were released from their cages, to wreck havoc on the world, and its not been the same since.

    –note from me, MG–As I said, had the Jews suggested something a little more ‘up close and personal’ to Pius X such as the seizing of church property, neither he nor anyone working under him would have needed clairvoyance in seeing what would have come from it in responding more vociferously than they did concerning Palestine.

    More important than that though is the fact that it had been church teaching for close to 2,000 years that the Jews were driven from their home as a punishment for having rejected/murdered the Son of God. Therefore, what Pius X was protesting in a very half-hearted way was the undoing of what had been (officially understood) to be God’s decision. From a dogmatic/spiritual standpoint, it was nothing less than blasphemy on steroids for the Jews (or anyone) to put forth the idea of undoing what God had decided. That fact ALONE should have elicited more response from Pius X and his church, and the fact that it did not must cause all of us to ponder the appropriate question ‘why not?’

  28. #29 by bill on 12/21/2011 - 7:41 pm

    BASF
    You really do talk about of both sides of your mouth.
    Again, you assert blame where there is some to none, but recuse the entire muslim world for the same crimes you accuse Christianity of.

    What of the Muslim alliances with Zionists and Israel, Present day!!?
    What of Saudi, Jordan, Turkey, and UAE strong alliances with the Zionist state? Turkey is their attack dog poodle of the Middle East, and Jordan stands by and does NOTHING for the Palestinians, same as Egypt who walled them in and guarded/enforced the wall.

    You charge Christian Europe with its lack of humanity, when it is the Catholic Church that is responsible FOR Human Rights and the creation OF International Law-(I understand it is lacking and impotent in its present day form).

    And what of Cattholicism promoting and fostering (Pre Vatican 2) Orphanages, Universities, Catholic Hospital system which donates free care to those who are needy, Food banks, Clothing centers, and a sound based market economy, rather than a Talmudic Debt based fiat fractional reserve economy.

    You imply Racism is strictly a Euro reality when Racism itslef has become a 21st century ‘phenomenon’, and that heretofore, did not exist prior to opening of the flood gates.
    Europe welcomed immigrant groups (Muslim Africans), who sought solace from war torn lands, in the very land of their Occupiers- ie Algeria, Somalis or for America the Japanese and Vietnamese.
    .
    I assure you that human nature is consistent, and if Zionists flooded the Middle East with immigrants of other religious, anthropolgical and ethnic backgrounds, and they worked for wages 1/3 lower than the prevailing rate, the Middle East would find itself fighting the same ‘racism’, which is a tried and true tactic of the Zio Masters.

    And lastly, you insult BOTH Christians and Muslims with your mentions of a ‘historical’ and not factual Jesus, which comes right from the ‘Forgery’ aka the Protocols of Zion #14, specifically, which is-attack the Faith and Destroy Christianity by any means.
    Just the fact that HE is so attacked (jews) revered (musllims) and worshipped (Christianity) by the 3 Monotheistic Faiths, is all the more assuring that HE was not fictional but a flesh and blood man walking this earth.

    I appreciate your ‘humbleness’ claiming that it is Only Islam that has kept Jesus Christ’s legacy alive, and while such a statement is an utter and bold falsehood, I will say that I am not surprised.
    The Faith of Christianity is still practiced, alive and well in the Traditional Catholic and Orthdox Faiths. We are Millions strong. With no thanks to the Jews who work to subvert all of our religious holidays and feasts like Christ Mass and Lent, to a secular shopping day. Or All Saints day to a Satanic death worshipping Halloween.

    Speaking of Orthodox, any word from you on the sacking, raiding and destruction of Byzantine Christian epicenter now known as Constantinople by Eastern Muslims, or is that another goose chase?
    Was there no Racism practiced there on the part of Islamists towards the Greek Orthodox Europeans?

  29. #30 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/21/2011 - 10:14 pm

    errata

    “I make no claim. I just go through the available facts when they CAN be proven to be true, which is unfortunately not always the case.”

    “It is true however that in Rome they were not allowed to BUILD a Jewish Temple that was too Jewish on the outside, …”

    BAFS

  30. #31 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/21/2011 - 10:19 pm

    bill says:
    December 21, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    BASF
    “You really do talk about of both sides of your mouth.”

    JUST GO TO HELL!

    Maybe, this one you will understand!

    BAFS

  31. #32 by Ingrid B on 12/22/2011 - 7:15 am

    Do you all see what the parasitic ones have accomplished? everyone at one another`s throats. Does it really matter what Jesus looked like, since everyone sees him through their own prism anyway, but it`s nice to know he was Palestinian, and not the other..

  32. #33 by Billy on 12/22/2011 - 2:55 pm

    note from me, MG–As I said, had the Jews suggested something a little more ‘up close and personal’ to Pius X such as the seizing of church property, neither he nor anyone working under him would have needed clairvoyance in seeing what would have come from it in responding more vociferously than they did concerning Palestine.

    More important than that though is the fact that it had been church teaching for close to 2,000 years that the Jews were driven from their home as a punishment for having rejected/murdered the Son of God. Therefore, what Pius X was protesting in a very half-hearted way was the undoing of what had been (officially understood) to be God’s decision. From a dogmatic/spiritual standpoint, it was nothing less than blasphemy on steroids for the Jews (or anyone) to put forth the idea of undoing what God had decided. That fact ALONE should have elicited more response from Pius X and his church, and the fact that it did not must cause all of us to ponder the appropriate question ‘why not?’”

    Agreed Mark.
    However, it has been spoken and written here (and elsewhere) that in times past, the Church has been TOO Militant, TOO Tough, TOO Stifling, TOO oppressive towards Jews.
    Yet that That very vigilance KEPT Order.
    It kept ‘them’ in check, on their heels, on the defensive, and it worked! They were forced to wear ID badges, evicted when their welcome was worn or when they committed subversive crimes or blasphemes, and they were confined to ghettos and restricted many employment vocations.

    Where the Church failed, was in forced conversions, allowing them to become cryptos, And in relaxing its militance-literally and figuratively. And there are many apologists that favored a ‘kinder/gentler’ Church approach to them.
    Detractors be damned, Soft touch be damned.
    Toughness and vigilance on the part of the Church militant, worked.
    Period.

    “The Jews are enemies of God and foes of our holy religion.” ~ Padre Pio
    Crucifiers of Christ ought to be held in continual subjection. ~ Pope Innocent III
    For, raging against the Gentiles as unclean, Israel became in very truth unclean themselves; while the Gentiles have become clean, the justice of Israel has become like the rag of a menstruous woman. ~ St. Basil the Great

    We order all our brother bishops absolutely to suppress the blasphemy of Jews in your dioceses, churches, and communities, so that they do not dare raise their necks, bent under eternal slavery, to revile the Redeemer. ~ Pope Gregory IX.

    It would be licit, according to custom, to hold the Jews in perpetual servitude because of their crime. ~ St. Thomas Aquinas

    One who dies a Jew will be damned. ~ St. Vincent Ferrer

    The Synagogue is a godless house, a collection of wickedness, and God Himself has damned it. ~ St. Ambrose (PAC, p.642)

  33. #34 by Naeem on 12/22/2011 - 5:37 pm

    Billy the arab states are a dictatorship i dare you to go to those lands where the ppl live and say you love israel and you will be mauled, now if you go to to the western world and say you love israel they will cheer and love you just look at the genocide of the iraqi’s 1.5 million the western audience know that it was for israel but do they care not really now your getting political groups who affiliate with israel to destroy islam so stop kidding yourself.

  34. #35 by kayceecody on 12/23/2011 - 2:05 am

    i remember from my school days at Brandeis University in1970’s my student adviser’s words that when he was growing up that his parents used the term “‘goyishe kup,’” meaning that the “Non-Jews are Stupid”
    I learned that of “GOYISHE KUP” means that the “Cattle are STUPID”.I agree with the Jewish saying that American “GOYISHE KUP” are indeed” Stupid” as they believe that Moslem Kids who were unable to Fly a Cessna plane took it upon themselves to FLY a Boeing 767 & outwitted the US Military & Civilian authorities. The “Jewish Lightning Insurance Scam” of the 1960’s is still alive and well has been put to use by Larry Silverstein in putting 15 million cash down and comming out with 7 billion dollars for buidings where it would have cost a billion dollars to remove the asbestos The Americans believe that they decide who is elected President or for that that actual VOTE is really counted in deciding who represents them in the White House and congress. bollyn.com
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVTXbARGXso http://www.911missinglinks.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxnpujfanUM Yeh I agree that the AmericanNon-Jews are indeed “GOYISHE KUP” or “STUPID CATTLE”!

  35. #36 by Gino Santana on 12/23/2011 - 7:49 am

    Great article. Look at what it has done here. Raised the emotions and brought up some good arguments. Personally, I have no problem and am comfortable with a Palestinian Jesus. Where and how does one purchase that flag?

    I wish you all a Merry Christmas. Let us not forget the message of the season. Not far from where I live, a house was decorated with the nativity scene. I was so moved, I offered prayers. Later that night, I came again to remind myself of what the message means. I am comforted that the holy family were homeless, as I am borderline homeless. I deal with persecution from family members who are hypocrites. Christians in name only. I live in Northern California, but I am a Palestinian inside my heart. And I stand with the poor and homeless indigenous Palestinian people.

    May God chastise that evil politician, Newt Gingrich, for declaring Palestinians are an invented people.

  36. #37 by Nargis Latif on 12/23/2011 - 1:04 pm

    Exceptional article. All Christians need to read this. We are living in confusing times and its about time we raised ourselves above the bigotry that is rife these days.

  37. #38 by Ingrid B on 12/23/2011 - 2:18 pm

    @Gino Santana, if you click on the flag, you can store it..
    @Nargis Latif, I copied the article onto e-mails, and sent them to family and friends, entitled, “where it all began.”

  38. #39 by Adalberto Erazo on 12/23/2011 - 7:18 pm

    @ Gino Santana

    I feel the same way but I’m stuck with my parents and wish I had the money to get the Hell out of the country. I also sent this article out to family. I can’t say I didn’t try to wake them up.

  39. #40 by Gerhard on 12/26/2011 - 4:13 pm

    Indeed, to this day most Palestinians practice Judaism. If Arabs practicing Islam from contiguous states are Palestinian so too are those Arabs practicing Judaism in Israel. Demographically the largest group today in Israel, Palestinian Jews have been the object of much discrimination. Only in the last decade has this major demographic block entered the political spectrum in force in Israel. Hopefully this ethnic commonality between Jews and Muslims will play a positive and significant role in creating as powerful a dynamic toward peace and cooperation as the terrain of a single land with a common water shed and interconnected natural resources plays in making integration a benefit for all living there.

    –note from me, MG–??????????? Most Palestinians “practice Judaism”??? Of all the strange things I have heard in recent years this one ranks near the top.

    No, most Palestinians practice Islam, with Christianity coming in a distant second place, given the flight of Palestinian Christians from the region. After that are the Druze, and then after that, comes Judaism at a REALLY distant 4th place.

  40. #41 by rehmat1 on 09/12/2012 - 5:59 pm

    American historian and a ‘self-hating Jew’, Benjamin H. Freedman died 1984) believed that Jesus was not a Jew. “This ‘big lie’ technic is brainwashing USA Christians into believing that Jesus Christ was “King of the Jews”, in the sense that so-called ‘Jews’ today call themselves ‘Jews’. This reference was first made in English translations of the Old and New Testaments, centuries before the so-called Jews highjacked the word ‘Jew’ in the 19th A.D. century to palm themselves off on the Christian world as having a kinship with Jesus Christ. This alleged kinship comes from the myth of their common ancestry with the so-called ‘Jews’ of the Holy Land in the Old Testament history, a fiction based on fable,” wrote Freedman.

    http://rehmat1.com/2012/08/31/marianne-williamson-israel-is-not-a-democracy/

  41. #42 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 09/12/2012 - 8:14 pm

    #41 by rehmat1 on September 12, 2012 – 5:59 pm

    “American historian and a ‘self-hating Jew’, Benjamin H. Freedman died 1984) believed that Jesus was not a Jew. ”

    It is not a matter of belief, but one of historical fact of the hignest probability! Bart Ehrman wrote that Jesus was a historical figure, but I have not managed to get hold of his book yet. To my knowledge, it has never been established that Jesus was a “Jew”, a quite modern term.

    DID I WRITE THIS?

    bill says:
    December 21, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    BASF
    “You really do talk about of both sides of your mouth.”

    JUST GO TO HELL!

    Maybe, this one you will understand!

    BAFS

    WOW!

  42. #43 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 09/12/2012 - 8:19 pm

    One thing I hate about Muslims is that they always praise Muhammad, Abraham, Job, Jacob, but rarely do I see them give Jesus his proper place in the religious songs (Nasheeds).

    The flag with JESUS on it is very appropriate as Palestine was his homeland. All Muslims the world over should use that FLAG FOR PALESTINE!

    Basheer

  43. #44 by Mast Qalander on 12/22/2012 - 2:43 pm

    Basheer

    I, a Muslim man, wrote this article in praise of Jesus (peace be upon him). Also, there are songs about him sung by Muslims. Don’t just look at Nasheeds. Look at Qawwalis, artwork, Sufi parables, and Hadiths, too. 🙂

  44. #45 by Frank Parsons on 12/26/2012 - 5:10 pm

    @ #4 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally you say god is a reality and bad mouth Richard Dawkins who wrote the God Delusion.

    1. I will believe in your god as soon as you can prove that god is a reality. The fact is there is absolutely no evidence of god.

    2. I will believe in the Bible kings like David as soon as you show me some archeological evidence for these kings, show me the pottery, show me the art, show me the coinage.

    3. I will believe that Jesus was a real historical character as soon as you show me a historical reference outside of the Bible. Show me a contemporary scholar that wrote about this miracle man. There are none because he didn’t exist.

    In the mean time I will continue to read Dawkins because I prefer sanity over the delusions of these Jewish religious cults that dominate the world. Dawkins is genius and a great hero to all of us sick of religion. Yeah we are sick of your insanity!

    You also say “PEOPLE OF FAITH ARE NOT SUICIDAL BUT PEOPLE OF HOPE”. To me that sounds like a denial, I see millions if not billions of Christians awaiting Christ’s return, for 2,000 years no less, and while you wait and do absolutely nothing about the Jew terror consuming the world you claim that your cult is not suicidal. Oh but it is, it is a death cult. You worship a dead Jew (or Palestinian as this article claims) on a Celtic cross, you are taught not to resist and pay your taxes to Rome or the state, a state run by Jews. You turn your cheek and ignore evil, allowing it to flourish.

    You worship this state, you love its power, you love how it “gets every knee to bend”, for the last few days I heard this Christian Christmas song over and over on the Jew radio, “down on your knees, the savior is born”. You love that? You love this power that coerce humans to do what they don’t want to do?

    I have news Christ is never coming back because he never was, that is what we sane people know as reality, not your fantasy based on The Book of Hallucinations (Revelation) of the Bible.

  45. #46 by Blake on 12/26/2012 - 5:17 pm

    Jesus wasn’t a pasty skinned European Zionist Jew. He would’ve looked more like one of those young Palestinian men that get US made weapons pointed in their face

  46. #47 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/26/2012 - 6:46 pm

    #45 by Frank Parsons on December 26, 2012 – 5:10 pm

    1. I will believe in your god …

    MY God?

    I am sorry, but I cannot help retards to understand anything!

    BAFS

  47. #48 by joe on 12/26/2012 - 7:06 pm

    Jesus was definitely not Jewish Jesus was the son of god and everybody knows that god is Irish or Lebanese

  48. #49 by Joe Nobody on 12/26/2012 - 7:09 pm

    Jesus is this, Jesus is that, Jesus said this, Jesus sad that. All the world is mad on what Jesus said or didn’t say or who he was and whence he came.

    Without proper historical evidence that defines this person Jesus is whoever you want him to be, that is what is nice about myth, you can embellish it to your own prejudice.

    Wikipedia says there are 41,000 Christian denominations, each and every one claims to be the true church of Christ. Houston we have a problem.

    How about we define who we are? How about we decide what morality to follow? How about we institute a government that represents us, not this phony Jew warfare state that is only interested in power. In order to be self governed we must overcome the myth, an outside myth that binds us to the Jews and Jewish supremacism.

    The very big problem about Christianity is that it is a Jewish cult, its basis is the Old Testament, its source is Jewish literature and so long as the basis of your myth is Jewish choseness then you are doomed to sit in the back seat of the car who’s crazy driver is a power mad Rabbi.

    How do you like the Jew joy ride so far? War, war, war!

    Those that are concerned about the racial origin of Jesus are often racists, when what they ought to be concerned with was the message, that all men are brothers, your brother is that other man with a different color skin.

    If you choose to differentiate then you choose conflict that will only lead to bloodshed. Racism is ugly, it is what makes human ugly.

  49. #50 by Pope Leo X on 12/26/2012 - 8:21 pm

    “What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!” Pope Leo X.

  50. #51 by Pro-Gentile on 12/26/2012 - 11:18 pm

    How did an article about Jesus Christ turn into a racial bashing of “white” European people?

    And how is it that this writer assumes that all “white” Christians believe that Jesus Christ is “white”? I was raised “Christian” and I never once thought Jesus Christ was white. I’ve always known he would look like a Middle Easterner. And all of the pictures I’ve had growing up was of an olive skinned man.
    But then you the author did something else – you trashed the Europeans. How is it that the “white” man must take the blame when ANYONE that reads history can see the Jewish hand? These other nations, creeds, and colors have been used as well to commit terrible atrocities, but for some reason only the “white” man must be pointed out? A Jew is NOT a “white” man, he PRETENDS to be. The Jews took over the Muslim world. What happened then? Oh that’s right, the Muslim slave trade of other peoples.

    I just find it galling that other people of color cannot see the corruption in their own history, or will not acknowledge it, but that damn WHITE DEVIL – we need to bring them to their knees! MAKE THEM REPENT of their EVIL DEEDS.
    So what about the people of color who have sold out their own nations, their own people, who are now killing their own? They have no responsibility? Just the “white” man?

    Yep that’s right, the “white” man did all of it. Yep, my being a “white” person living in poverty and striving to make a better life for myself and my children, in hopes of never being robbed, beaten, raped or killed, must make me an oppressor of the “colored” man. This shit is getting old.

    If so many films were created for propaganda, and news reports are manufactured, how many “historical” events are also manufactured? Ever stop to wonder that? Ever stopped to wonder if the “New World” the “New Jerusalem” has always been under a form of Jewish rule?
    We know that the founding of the “Americas” were of slave plantations. That’s what the 13 colonies were. They used slaves of multiple colors, including white……….. so what is reality?

    I always say there are two kinds of people in every race. There are those that are willing to do anything to get what they want and will commit any vile act to get it – and then there are the rest of us.

  51. #52 by wad on 12/27/2012 - 12:24 am

    a very nice article. and much needed.. the more Muslims speak of the truth of Jesus and show Islam’s love of Jesus and his centrality in Islam the more bridges shall be built between Christians and Muslims, this is PRIME WORK.

    I wrote an article on this ways back called 10 shocking things Muslims believe about Jesus
    http://jinnwe.com/quest.php?id=464

    One small thing I wish to point out, in respect to Jesus, is that his real aramiac name was not Yeshua, but Isa, same as Arabic. Yeshua was the Hebrew slang insult the Rabbi’s used against him, it literally translates into “he whose name is never to be mentioned” When Christians use this name they are insulting Jesus and the Rabbi’s love it, no Muslim should ever use that name.

    Muslims name their kids ISA (Jesus) all the time, how many Christians do that?

  52. #53 by Blake on 12/27/2012 - 3:41 am

    @ Wad, Yeshua means salvation. You are thinking of Yeshu – Jews call Jesus Yeshu which is a Talmudic acronym for “Yimach Shmo V’Zichro” — May his name and memory be obliterated.”

    @ Joe Nobody, Josephius, the Jewish historian, tells us that there was a man named Jesus of Nazareth who lived back in the 1st Century AD who walked around and performed many miracles who His followers called The Christ.

  53. #54 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/27/2012 - 6:47 am

    #52 by wad on December 27, 2012 – 12:24 am

    “Muslims name their kids ISA (Jesus) all the time, how many Christians do that?”

    TO BE MORE PRECISE

    Jesus is ‘Isa in the original tongue. The guttural letter “AYN” written phonetically as ‘ (like an apostrophe) is SO DIFFICULT TO PRONOUNCE by a non Arab speaking person that they always write it incorrectly.

    In some dialects and variations of the Old Arabic tongue, the letter S is further changed to SH, like in Isma’il, salaam, ‘Isa, ‘sma (or asma), etc.

    Yeshua, Yehoshua, Isha, Isho, Ishaw, or Eesha, Eesho, Eeshaw, etc. are just corruptions or variations of the name of “Jesus”. Even the letter J is of later invention or usage.

    The evidence is in the European Bible itself where the translators have failed to preserve Jesus’ real name in their many translations and Versions! Even Massih has become Christ!

    Europeans do have a very bad habit of translating proper names making it still more confusing. by ‘Europeanising’ them.

    It is true that millions of Muslims around the globe call their sons ‘Isa (written by the Colonials as ISA). Mainly Spanish and Portuguese would call their sons Jesus because of their Islamic past (most probably).

    Basheer

  54. #55 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on 12/27/2012 - 6:51 am

    #49 by Joe Nobody on December 26, 2012 – 7:09 pm
    “How about we define who we are?”

    Why not start with YOU, Joe NOBODY?

    Basheer Somebody!

  55. #56 by Pro-Gentile on 12/27/2012 - 9:30 pm

    This whole comment section is absolute BS — and I mean that in the nicest sense — Joe Nobody got it right — if you focus on race, well then, more than likely you may be a racist — but how about this, how is it that Jesus couldn’t have light skin and eyes other than brown? From the pictures and video of the Palestinian people, they come in an array of colors, including blondes, and wonder of wonders, some even have blue eyes….. So why are we fighting again?

    In the Book of Revelations it talks about God having different faces and the different Books that proclaim His word….. Can’t we all just get along?

  56. #57 by Doug on 12/31/2012 - 8:50 pm

    I have fought this one out for years. People could see the whole truth and nothing but the truth, through this one HUGE FACT!

  57. #58 by Bibiana on 01/20/2013 - 6:31 am

    An excellent article! I am a Christian, and I agree with you. Jesus was NOT a blond European. Also, he was not the delicate type they show in so many pictures. He was physically very strong. Remember, He did physical labor as a carpenter, and He was strong enough to drive a whole crowd out of the temple using a corded whip.

  58. #59 by Paul Khoury on 03/04/2013 - 2:13 am

    I am a Lebanese American and all Americans assume I am Muslim. If I tell them I am Christian they ask do I believe in the same Jesus Christ

  59. #60 by Ann on 05/10/2013 - 3:18 am

    Excellent article. I’m an Arab Christian and Western Christianity’s co-opting of Jesus to marginalize and colonize non-white populations around the world has never ever sat right with me.

  60. #61 by jacob John on 07/03/2013 - 10:25 am

    I am so pleased to hear the Holy Breath Concept. Being a Syrian Christian from India, I allways thought some idegeniousness in Yeshua. And I love to aknowledge his non english ethos.

  61. #62 by Q on 03/20/2014 - 12:51 am

    Warning: this entry is long!!
    I really appreciate your article. I just came across it while trying to sift through information about the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the current conditions. I’m Christian, I’m white, I’m American, and I am also quite disenchanted with the way mainstream Western Christianity has evolved.

    I have spent several years in seminary discovering that the best way to interpret the Bible is by developing an understanding of Jesus’ own socio-cultural background, the geography of the land that he walked, the nuances of his original language and the original languages in which the Scriptures were written, the political context in which He lived, etc. You might be happy to know that there are a great deal of American Bible scholars who recognize the need for this kind of understanding, who have devoted their lives to learning ancient Greek and Hebrew language and customs so that they can understand the Bible the way it was originally intended to be understood, and are doing the best they can to help educate our religious leaders.

    I agree that it is quite incorrect to imagine Jesus as a blue-eyed, fair-skinned, English-speaking gentleman. It appears that most cultures do the same thing, propagating images of a Jesus in their own likeness (I’ve seen a Negro Jesus, a Latino Jesus, and even a Thai Jesus!). I don’t doubt the effect that such images can have on one’s ethnocentric attitudes, but I also can’t help but think sometimes that perhaps they are just different cultural expressions of faith – a recognition that Jesus really is for everyone, and an attempt to make this foreign religion a part of one’s own life in one’s own cultural context. Kind of like the way different cultures portray their own versions of Santa Clause?? 😛 I know that’s not a perfect analogy… I guess I would like to believe that most people don’t really think that Jesus was white just because that’s how he looks in all our paintings, but maybe that is not the case. And that is where the danger lies – when people adopt inaccurate beliefs based on an inaccurate image that they think is real. And this is not exclusively a white man’s folly… I think it is worth noting here that the racist white-supremacists and the radical Islamic sects are guilty of the same crime: they bend their religion to fit their their own personal values and beliefs and to justify their atrocious crimes. Ignorance, deception, and greed are always at the root of such evils.

    So I’m still learning and studying, and I have some questions for you – I’m not trying to be antagonistic or anything, I just really am ignorant about some of these things and I’d like to know more and get your perspective (I see that you are Muslim, I’m assuming you consider yourself Palestinian as well?).
    When you say “Jesus was Palestinian,” are you referring to his ethnicity, or his physical appearance? Or simply to the geographical location in which he was born and lived? Or to the political governing bodies of his time? Is it a similar concept as when you say that someone is “Jewish”? This may not be entirely correct, but when I hear the word “Jewish,” it brings to mind some different concepts: in my mind it can mean semitic ethnicity (the race of people descended from the Hebrews of the Bible), or it could mean the religion (i.e. Judaism – one need not be ethnically Jewish to practice the Jewish religion), or both. And it is my understanding (I subscribe to the Jews for Jesus newsletter, which informs some of this understanding) that most of the ethnically Jewish people in Israel today really don’t even practice the Jewish religion of their own heritage, and that, as a whole, Israel is really more secular. Would you say that is an accurate understanding? So then what does it mean to be “Palestinian,” and is there any difference between what it meant to be Palestinian in ancient times, and what it means to be Palestinian today? For example, based on my understanding of the term “Jewish,” I would say that in ancient times there wasn’t any distinction between ethnic Jews and religious Jews (they were one in the same), but once Jesus showed up he kind of changed things… the Jewish people were divided between those who believed Jesus’ claims to be one with YHWH (and thus became “Christians”), and those who did not. And then the non-Jewish people became part of the debate – did they have to “become Jewish” in order to become “Christians.” This makes my brain hurt… Ok, so coming full circle, I know that Jesus was some kind of Middle Eastern (decidedly NOT white), but how is it that you say he was Palestinian (which I’m still not sure what that means) and not Jewish? In the Christian Bible (which is technically a compilation of Hebrew/Jewish and Hellenistic Jewish writings) Jesus is Jewish. There are several passages that list extensively his Hebrew/Jewish ancestry (some go back to Abraham, some even go back to Adam), he participated in the Jewish religious celebrations, he taught in the Jewish temples, and everyone that he came into contact with assumed his Jewishness. I guess the Muslim religious texts say something different about his ancestry and heritage?

    So I guess to sum up my main question, here’s what I’m trying to figure out: Jesus obviously was not white (which I agree is a very important fact), but why is it important that he was specifically Palestinian (as opposed to any other Middle Eastern people group that lived in that area during that time), and what do you rest that belief on?

    Sorry for the novella – thank you for reading, and for opening up this dialogue, to help educate people and dispel the ignorance that has lead to so much hate. I hesitate to align myself against “God’s chosen people Israel,” but I cannot morally support the way they are treating their Palestinian neighbors. They certainly aren’t acting like “God’s chosen people.” We pray that the hostilities would end and that Jesus would reign in the hearts of the people.

    Peace, Salaam, and Shalom

  62. #63 by dimegirl on 06/27/2014 - 3:15 pm

    I am more confused then ever.I thought the original bible was found in Africa.
    What I don’t understand about other religious countries is why they want to kill other religions,why should someone care what religion another person is.
    I guess I will never figure that one out in my lifetime.

  63. #64 by Craig Bonnett on 08/03/2014 - 11:49 pm

    The reason “JESUS”, has or needs to be blonde hair & blue eyes is. The world needs to simply acknowledge, that european’s, 90% of them are full of evil and hate. This is by no means something new. And as they ask the rest of the Christian world to worship each Sunday, with a “WHITE” messiah’s portrait hanging on the wall. They themselves, would never bow down nor worship a Mexican or Iranian Jesus. But as long as their blonde hair blue eye Christ, is worshiped, they tell all mankind, his color doesn’t matter. And it doesn’t matter what one said’s or the facts that are provided. The only truth, is what they declare truth. How can one say they love God, yet I don’t want to work, live, or worship this God unless everyone where I worship, looks I do. But I’ll say to you, yes we all pray to the same God. Not being of the presence of mind to know that, your telling God that as long as you conform to my ways & views, then I will worship you. For instance, as long as you only “BLESS AMERICA” and my children and no others, we have a deal. You (GOD), cannot love all your creation are all your children. God Bless America, and no one else. You must “HATE”, as we do. And if you don’t think so, think about how hypercritical their words are. Israel, has the right to defend itself. Yet if the Palestinians defend themselves against a country that has every weapon known to man. They are terrorist. They don’t have the right to defend themselves, with rocks against rockets. In this country the theme song is “FREEDOM”, must be protected at any cost. The Israeli’s are free, why can’t the Palestinians be free. Why can’t they govern themselves. Who or what gives Israel the right to control them, then say they won’t do what we say. Insanity to the upmost. For a people that claim that they have been oppressed for millinei, seems as if they’ve Leaned the trade very well. And poor “AMERICA”, calls itself a Godly nation. So since we call Israel our friend, we turn a blind eye to autrosities that defy logic. Their is nothing Godly about what Israel is doing. It’s obvious, RAY CHARLES, can see the evil and hatred that is being poured out. The work of those that have allegence to the darkness, and we are in full support of this massacre. If China were to invade the borders of America tonight, the fight would be to the last man. Yet when others fight for their God given right to be free, they’re labeled as terrorist or extremist. Only America has the right to freedom and those we deem worthy of it. Everyone else should submit to their place as worker bee’s or her servants. If the Palestinians or extremist for wanting to be free of being ruled over. Then where are all the “PROFITS”, from the oil in Iraq. Are they going in the pockets of the Iraqi people. Are in the pockets of extremist who have taken their natural recourse, that could have made them a wealthy people & country. And stolen it for themselves, right in front of the entire world, for the interest of their nation & their children not the rightful owners. Sound familiar. Who’s really the terrorist. But it’s nice when you control the media, the news, and you get to determine how the story is written each night. That way you appear as an angel of “LIGHT”

  64. #65 by courtellis on 06/20/2015 - 10:48 am

    Here is my take on the whole subject. As a child I grew up around what I would call realist. My parents insisted that we go to church to gain moral understanding and that someday we would decide for ourselves if religion was right for us. The pastor would say there are God’s laws and part of those laws are that we obey the laws of man. When I read this article I went to the comments as well and one commenter said “Dear Charlotte, I don’t mean to hurt your feelings but when people say Jesus was brown, they are referring to brown as in Middle Eastern brown. They do not mean brown-closer to black as in people of Zimbabwe.” The sad part is that Middle Eastern people do in fact have varying shades of skin color. Yes they tend to be brown skinned but can get very dark. (It get’s pretty hot there and the sun can be well less than friendly.) The funny part is I was raised to believe that Jesus Christ more or less a brown skinned person, and his blond hair and blue eyes were attributed to the interpretations of the artists and those who perceived and painted him that way as per the majority; thereby making him aesthetically pleasing to the eyes of most in that era. My father would say that being a Christian meant following the teaching of Christ who was in fact a Jew and that must of the denominations of religions where made by men. For example: the Baptists, it would seem they based most of their faith of the writings of John the Baptist, the Pentecost; and or the day of Pentecost. The answer was simple for some and complex for most with that being creating of holiness church, seven day Adventist, end of the world predicting Jehovah Witnesses and their kingdom hall. There is such division with those who wish to walk like Christ I thought. All reading the same book and each coming up with his/her own interpretation. There was a kid I went to high school with who when ever you spoke to him about the bible he simply quoted a scripture at you and every one of his little followers just chimed in with an Amen. As I listened to him I thought Jim Jones get so many people to follow him by misuse of the teachings of Christ. This kid spoke and I asked him what does Jesus look like, and he give the me the same description that he’d known all his life, white blond hair and blue eyes, then he asked me. I told him the priest at my parish said “that we cannot say but I believe and most of the other priest believe he was in fact a brown skinned middle eastern person” I retorted to the kid you do know where the middle east is don’t you? . My answer was clear, and I remained a Catholic (still today as I am) but the one thing remained with me and that was Jesus and where he came from, not white, or black but middle eastern Jewish man with wise parables that will help you navigate this world if you so desire to believe. I believe in him and those lessons and not the color of his skin because in the area he traveled all men, women, and children either followed or hated him as is the nature of humans. Some portray him as the good old white God and others want him to be black, but he was in fact Middle Eastern and to a Jewish family more than likely a Palestinian family. Some even refer time him as white Jesus or Black Jesus, and they truly knew what they were talking about they wouldn’t even reference that part of him but the lessons he left behind for us to follow if we so desire to. That my friends is who Jesus was to me and that is how it was taught to me. . I leave you with this: Shouldn’t it be about the message and not what the messenger looked like?

  65. #66 by El Nino Cid on 12/09/2015 - 6:23 pm

    The first dispossessed indigenous people were in fact the Jews, since before being named “Palestine” (more in that below) the country was called Canaan, then Judeah and Samaria, then Palestina.

    The latter was part of a sort of punishment package by the Roman rulers who had had enough of he pesky, rebellious Israelites, who were the progenitors of most of today’s Jews.
    Of course there is a connection between Biblical and contemporary Hebrews (yet another name). DNA is right there for anyone to look, you don’t have to believe some random drooling clownshoe, or the pseudo academics like the Author of this headspinning piece of unashamedly biased, cheap propaganda.

  66. #67 by Vanessa Chapman on 12/23/2015 - 12:40 am

    I’m not religious at all but this article was an amazing read! I wish more people thought and felt this way! Then we probably wouldn’t have any wars (as most wars are caused by religion)! Love this!

  67. #68 by Jaco pitzer on 12/23/2015 - 8:41 am

    My dear friend. Jesus could have been any colour or from any race. The fact is that He is GOD the Saviour. Any person that would pay the pice for my sin deserve to be honoured.

  68. #69 by RichardKane.PhillyPA (@RichardKanePA) on 12/26/2015 - 2:24 pm

    Let’s go back to the beginning Jesus systematically talked people out of hurting each other while he and many of those around him believed he could also heal. What ever his lecturing sometimes about the universe was actually about he kept getting interrupted by those wanting to be cured of some ailment or another. He also during his execution was given vinegar not water and suffered the same rapid dehydration that abandoned Ebola victims face who sometimes awaken from a coma. Due to Jesus, no mother anywhere is free to leave a new born infant born physically challenged to be left alone to die and in other ways may have made this a less cruel world. Too bad that many of use who believe something other than coincidence was involved forget what he actually tried to do.

  69. #70 by perpetual66 on 01/14/2016 - 2:08 pm

    Why does it matter, did God populate the world by ranking, skin color, caste system, human rights only for men, flags, no, he gave us simple rules, and in day one. It was violated, He would be our God, and we would be his children. Everybody violated law #1, and #2 do not worship idols, you walk around with a paper as your identity and claim it to be you. Lol

  70. #71 by GymMom66 on 01/16/2016 - 10:16 am

    The term “Palestinian” did not even exist when Jesus lived – the Romans renamed Judea as “Syria Palestina” about 70 years later.

    YOu are right about one thing, and one thing only – Jesus was not a white European. He was a Middle Eastern JEW. One of the indigenous peoples of the Middle East, specifically of the Levant.

    He belonged to the same group of people that have finally reclaimed their ancient homeland, after nearly 2000 years of being exiled and having to live in diaspora.

    BUt to use this fact, and then twist it to try to make Jesus into an argument for supporting Arab COLONIZERS, who invaded and colonized the region in the 7th century, more than 600 years after Jesus lived and died – well, that’s just utter nonsense, which SHOULD make any rational, educated person laugh at the absurdity.

    ed note–an insane Jewess using the words ‘rational’ in a sentence to bolster her argument–the height of ‘chutzpah’.

    Jesus was not a ‘Jew’, meaning a Judean, but a Galilean, which–as your own religious texts describe it–was a place populated with Gentiles and imbued with Gentile and Hellenized thinking and culture. If Jesus had been a ‘jew’ as you so disingenuously put it, he would have been like Barabbas or like Judas Iscariot who betrayed him for reasons of ‘tribal ethics’ and for money. That is the ‘Jewish way’, after all.

    Furthermore, your pathetic attempt in reclaiming Jesus as your own, given the fact that it was your ancestors who rejected Him and had Him murdered under both false pretenses and false witness underscores what an inherently dishonest, deceptive, and duplicitous group of people you are, or, as Jesus Himself described you right before your ancestors had Him murdered, ‘children of your father, the Devil, who was a liar from the beginning and the father of lies.’

    You are the colonizers, the liars and the murderers, doing the ‘lust of your father, the devil’.

  71. #72 by Tarud on 03/21/2016 - 12:44 am

    When Jesus was born the area was stil NOT called Palestine, it was called Judea. Jesus was not en Arab or “Palestinian”, he and his followers were Jews!
    _________________________
    A: I don’t think you understood the article. Please read it again. SLOWLY.

  72. #73 by Jeremiah on 05/12/2016 - 11:52 am

    Sorry but Jesus was a Jew from the tribe of Judah the tribe of david

    ed note–Sorry, but Jesus was a Galilean, not a Judean, and there is no proof whatsoever that he hailed either from Judah or from David.

    Furthermore–typically–you missed the point, in that the designation ‘Palestinian’ had/has nothing to do with whatever bloodline from which Jesus descended, but rather as a description of his mindset–Kind, compassionate, not concerned with worldy/material wealth, patient, forgiving, etc, all of which are definitely ‘Palestinian’ qualities as opposed to the qualities of Jews, which are NONE of those aforementioned items but rather their polar opposites.

  73. #74 by John Smith on 01/16/2017 - 8:07 am

    The Nazarene was mixed Hebrew/Syrian, in the region of Galilee.

    True Palestines (Casluhims) come from the bloodline of Ham, son of Noah. Genesis 10:14

    There was a curse put upon Ham by Noah, for what he had done. Genesis 9:24-27. Curse onto Canaan: a Servant of Servants He shall be to his bretheren. Genesis 10:18 family of the Canaanites were dispersed.

    Hams brother Shem’s decendants,Genisis 11:10 follow down to Abram and his brother, Nahor and Horan, Genesis 11:26. This is where Abraham and his bloodline come forth, Abraham begot isaac who begot Jacob (Renamed Israel) who be got the 12 sons, tribes of israel.

    Jesus come from the bloodline of Shem, not of Ham as were the Palistinians, which makes this whole story false, proven by anchient Hebrew Torah Scriptures.

    Something nobody speaks of, Abram had a first born named Ishmael, by Hagar an Egyptian Maidservant of Sarai,Genesis16:1-15
    Genesis 17:20, God says to Abraham, Ishmael, I have blessed I will make him multiply and he shall become a great nation and beget 12 princes. What nation, it is not identified except in Genesis 25:13-18, a land east of Egypt, and the Hebrew tradition of Birthright was to the firstborn or eldest son.

    Genesis 24:3,4 Abraham wanted wife for son Isaac, she was not to be of Canaanites, (for they are cursed as servants and not welcomed in the covenant land promised to Abraham.

    Abraham chose from his country, his brother’s granddaughter, Rebekah for a wife to Isaac.
    Rebekah and her brother Laban was Syrian, identified Gen.25:20

    Jacob had 2 wives with a Maidservant each, whom all bore children to Jacob, grandson of Abraham. Jacobs wife Leah, born onto her was 6 sons, Reuben, Simeon, Levi (beginning lineage of priesthood) and Judah (first one of Jew lineage from which comes King David, the first King of Judea), then Issachar and Zebulun.

    What tribe is Mary of Nazareth because she is Jesus’s only flesh and blood because conceived by the Holy Spirit of God onto a Virgin Mother?

    John the Baptist, cousin of Jesus and born to jesus’ s mother, Mary’s cousin Elizabeth, whom was of the daughters of Aaron, brother of Moses (Levi) as was Elizabeth’s husband, a levite priest named Zacharias. Luke 1:5-23
    Luke 1:35-36, Elizabeth and Mary cousins.

    Jesus start ministry in Galilee, luke 4:14. Jesus is a priest himself and often times called Teacher (for he was trained and knowledgeable of the scriptures), jesus is not Jew, He is of the lineage of Levite (priesthood) and more than likely, Syrian.

  74. #75 by Nancy Barbour on 02/12/2017 - 5:22 pm

    Well said. Peace be with you.

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