Current Issues with Hesham Tillawi Jan 13, 2013


The kookery of the various Sandy Hook conspiracy theories and how it is being exploited by the JMSM to label all ‘truthers’ as crazies. Great interview with Hesham Tillawi, Michael Collins Piper and yours truly.


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  1. #1 by Dennis on January 13, 2013 - 11:26 pm

    Jim Fetzer is not dreaming up a conspiracy theory or theories.He is only asking questions.Tillawi Piper and Glenn have gone soft in the brain.

  2. #2 by John on January 14, 2013 - 12:07 am

    That wasn’t an interview with James Fetzer — it was a drive-by shooting! If you couldn devote sufficient time to developing Fetzer’s ideas, you shouldn’t have even invited him on your show. Shame on you!

  3. #3 by Deadbeat on January 14, 2013 - 1:49 am

    I do agree that being against the system that one has to exercise caution and smart tactics. It would have been better had Jim Fetzer kept his theories within the circle of the truth movement and qualified this “conclusion” as such. Going on MSM is a clearly mistake and for a former soldier should know not to give your enemies any opportunities.

    Asking question is one thing. Brother Nathaniel’s recent video on Sandy Hook gave an good example on raising the right questions without offering any wild theories.

    The MSM is scared and desperate and which means the truth movement is gaining ground. Therefore maintaining caution and discipline is how the truth movement maintains credibility against the enemy. Thank goodness MG and MCP sets the right example to properly conduct oneself in this information war.

  4. #4 by Matthew/Boston on January 14, 2013 - 2:20 am

    The host is too quick to cut-off his guests! Ease up. Mark, look at the abundance of questions that might suggest a hoax.

  5. #5 by Ken on January 14, 2013 - 2:49 am

    I do have to give Jim Fetzer the win on this first round. Enough said.

  6. #6 by Deadbeat on January 14, 2013 - 3:38 am

    I do agree with M/B that the host was abrupt and more time was needed but the host did agree with the question where he had the problem were the conclusions without hard evidence. He felt that doing such plays right into enemies hands. I have to agree with that assessment. In this case rhetorical discipline is required.

  7. #7 by The Equalizer on January 14, 2013 - 4:52 am

    I grew weary of Mr.Tillawi’s back-handed compliments to Dr.Fetzer. While trying to dis-credit Dr. Fetzer he was trying to mitigate his insults by saying ” he understands”. Whether Fetzer is accurate or not, how does one know if Tillawi constantly puts him on the defensive by his insults? From what I could gather by what Dr. Fetzer said, that is when Tillawi did not constantly interrupt him, he was citing FACTS. Maybe the real question is why did Tillawi set-up an obvious “ambush” interview?

  8. #8 by persnipoles on January 14, 2013 - 5:28 am

    Keith might be a good one to interview Dr. Fetzer. I agreed with his take a while ago: something like
    -most of what people float around YouTube, or wherever they’re posting, is the kind of thing you would keep to yourself and chew on -possibly for years -as an investigator.
    …problem with that, of course, in this context, is that influential false histories really are set in stone in a few weeks… …and the problem with the hurry to counter that is that you can slip as badly as the falsifiers…, even suckering for YouBate… …Best thing da movement could get out of this: lots and lots of people who felt like they got stung by their hurry to adopt a theory other than that pushed by JMSM, then move on to restricting themselves to questions ’till they get something solid… …need theorists, sure, but a good thing to be is the guy drinking NA brew next to a GWoT-sucker before the commercial break starts, asking: ‘you buy that?’

    S’ppose I already missed the long version of Mark’s pre-Okbomb experience… feels like I’m hearing bits-here-&-there.

  9. #9 by LindseyNarrates.wordpress.com on January 14, 2013 - 7:40 am

    It is about time that people have spoken-up about how rude Hesham Tillawi is to his callers, and sometimes, even to his guests. This was simply uncalled for, but I will not blame Mark Glenn for Tillawi’s extremely disrespectful behavior, but I really hope that Tillawi realizes that he needs to see that people are not going to stand for that kind of treatment to callers.

    I do NOT believe that israHell did this attack, but that is not the point…in FACT, Dr. Fetzer was not even allowed to FINISH A SENTENCE–almost–much less get his whole point(s) across to the audience, and most noticeably, to the host.

    Lindsey

    NB: I can never even begin to imagine Mark Glenn treating someone as knowledgeable as Dr. Fetzer in such an insulting manner, not the least of which is because Mark Glenn HAS MORE CLASS THAN TO DO SOMETHING THAT UN-BECOMING OF A GENTLEMAN.

  10. #10 by Ingrid B on January 14, 2013 - 9:46 am

    I have to say that I`m inclined to agree with numbers 1, 2, 4, 5, and 7.. I think it would be fair to give Fetzer the chance to expand, and explain, without interuption..

  11. #11 by Deadbeat on January 14, 2013 - 11:14 am

    @Equalizer.

    It was not an “ambush” interview. Fetzer enttered late into the program and time was short. The callers in large part agreed with Fetzer. The “FACTS” cited by Fetzer were the inconsistencies with the story. Tillawi agreed with Fetzer about the inconsistencies. Where Tillawi has issues was with Fetzer ‘theories” regarding those inconsistencies. Tillawi felt that such ‘theories” openly discussed in the Zionist MSM was an error that harmed the truth movement overall. In that context I have to agree with Tillawi. Until there is hard evidence, theories should be avoided at this stage however the inconsistencies are what should be continuously highlighted with constant pressure to seek rectification of those inconsistencies.

  12. #12 by Viper on January 14, 2013 - 12:54 pm

    Thanks!
    *Mark, your hosts are incredible.

  13. #13 by Viper on January 14, 2013 - 1:05 pm

    Oh sorry about previous post, this is RBN no worries, i got the host mixed up with Sammi’s show.
    Thanks very much for posting Mark, i don’t get to catch Mike’s show these days and ain’t gonna subscribe to rbn, just don’t want my details on that particular list is all.

  14. #14 by PATTY on January 14, 2013 - 2:44 pm

    Bravo Dr. Fetzer. You did an excellent job despite the hostile circumstances and I totally agree that whatever happened at Sandy Hook, it’s sole purpose as a psychological operation is to disarm the American people beginning with the semi-automatic weapons which the govt. calls “assault weapons”.

    I was disappointed by the ridiculous reasoning presented by Tillawi/Piper/Glenn. They seemed to argue that no one should question or pose alternative theories regarding the latest false flag attacks on the American psyche, at least not on any mainstream forum, lest the mainstream make the entire truth movement into a bunch of kooks and that this would do irreparable damage to the 9/11 movement. This is truly idiotic logic.

    First, who cares about anything the Jew media says. They are the kooks who disseminate only Jew/Govt lies and propaganda to further a sinister agenda. Any lie exposed will be ridiculed by them–Holohoax, 9/11, OKC, USS Liberty, JFK assassination, Pearl Harbor, Adolf Hitler, etc. Jim Fetzer did a great thing by using MSM to alert people there are other ways to look at the events of our day. Only those with ears to hear will hear.

    Second, Tillawi kept on stupidly saying “But there are no facts, only questions and theories”. After 9/11 and the “Holocaust” we were also not privy to hard-core evidence about what really happened. This extends to all historical lies. The inquiry begins with looking at all the inconsistencies and improbabilities in the official story and the lack of evidence to support the official story except for ” the govt/authorities told me so”. The official Sandy Hook story has so many holes in it that it unravels right before our very eyes. Go to http://www.carolynyaeger.net to hear her 2 radio shows on Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook Parts 1 and 2. Part 1 has 2 very interesting guests.

  15. #15 by Eva F. on January 14, 2013 - 7:53 pm

    I agree with Tillawi’s anger. He was a bit harsh, but -so what- Mr. Fetzer is an old warhorse. This harshness will not harm him. In fact it was way too early to go public with a theory, even when there are a lot of holes and questions in the offical Sandy Hook narrative. I really wonder f.e. why the parents were not allowed to see their dead children. Does anybody understand that ?

  16. #16 by LindseyNarrates.wordpress.com on January 14, 2013 - 8:51 pm

    I have to just say that this is the very first time that I have EVER heard of that happening; in fact, it is SOP–standard-operating-procedure–to have the next-of-kin identify the body, and that is how it is always done if the next-of-kin can be found. I can not think of a single “other” instance where something like what has happened at Sandy Hook happening at any other time, and if people can find that, THEN PLEASE POST IT.

    I will say, again, that there is no evidence that israHell had anything to do with this incident, but the way that Dr. Fetzer was treated, and that sly insult at the end veily accusing him of being some kind of shill or operative by Tillawi was absolutely over-the-line. Fluff is another kettle-of-fish, as he has ADMITTED ON-AIR THAT 40% OF WHAT HE SAYS IS FALSE/DIS-INFORMATION, but the same thing can not be said about Dr. Fetzer, regardless of what some people like to say about him behind-the-scenes.

    Mark, I think that it would do a tremendous amount of good to have Dr. Fetzer come on to YOUR show, where he would be treated with much more CLASS AND RESPECT than he was treated by Tillawi, and have a constructive debate between Dr. Fetzer and someone else who looks at this as you three do. I am absolutely convinced that something is very, very wrong with the official story, and I really want to hear both sides in a debate format to help make my decision on what is really taking-place.

    Lindsey

  17. #17 by Jake on January 14, 2013 - 8:55 pm

    I like Dr. Fetzer, but his latest ‘theory’ about no shootings in SH is one of the worst disasters to hit the ‘movement’ in ten years. Who is going to pay attention to anything we say about 9/11, the uss liberty, jfk, the federal reserve (all of which can be shown through mountains of VERIFIABLE evidence to be Jewish outfits) when this kind of BS is tied to us?

    Think smart people. This is not a game. Our job has to be to convince as many people out there that we are more believable than the other side, and with nonsense such as this we have lost the game before the starting gun has even gone off.

  18. #18 by Taylor on January 14, 2013 - 9:34 pm

    I am a recovering Christian Zionist/Israel firster and learning the truth about what the Jewish state really is and has been up to has been a very difficult pill to swallow.

    Having said that, one thing I can say for sure is this–in the early days, when I was just starting to consider some of what the 9/11 truthers were saying, if I had come across people spouting things like the ‘there were no kids killed at Sandy Hook’ theories alongside 9/11, USSLIB and all the rest, I would have run right back into the arms of the Zionists for all the kookiness those ideas contained.

    The hosts on this program were right–the only ones who benefit from theories such as Sandy Hook are the Zionists who desperately need to paint 9/11 truthers as whackos.

  19. #19 by dennis on January 14, 2013 - 9:54 pm

    They are definitely hiding something.Don’t get me wrong I do not believe that there were no dead bodies.Its clear that in every facet of their story they are hiding something.This story has more holes in it then Swiss cheese.

  20. #20 by LindseyNarrates.wordpress.com on January 14, 2013 - 10:23 pm

    Look, I really do understand from where Mark, et al, are coming, and I agree with how this is making us in the REAL truth-movement look, but I also agree absolutely with Dennis. This is not a normal situation–black-and-white–where this kid did this and all of the evidence is there and it is settled. This is actually, the opposite of that. When the parents are not identifying their own children’s bodies at the morgue…

    LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

    I just really wanted to make it clear that I WISH that I could be like Brother Mark Glenn and Mike Piper, but I just can not agree with them that this is as it is being promoted in the demon-controlled media.

    Lindsey

  21. #21 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on January 14, 2013 - 10:37 pm

    #15 by Eva F. on January 14, 2013 – 7:53 pm
    “I agree with Tillawi’s anger.”

    I found many flaws in that unfortunate exchange. But, I cannot post my comments here as Dr Hesham Tillawi is a very dear friend of mine. So, I have sent him a private message regarding my observations.

    Up till now, I avoided to write about the “Sandy Hook Affair” for that very reason although I have discussed it with some ‘friends’ here.

    ” I really wonder f.e. why the parents were not allowed to see their dead children. Does anybody understand that ?”

    Pr Nicholas Kollerstrom and Pr James Fetzer (and I) concluded that “Sandy Hook” was a fabricated event based on the available SOLID FACTS and not on kooky “theories”, but those FINDINGS could not be posted here for obvious reasons. Some people simply cannot handle the truth!

    By the way, for the paranoid type, truth does not need Pr Fetzer or anybody else. It stands by itself.

    “… no shootings in SH is one of the worst disasters to hit the ‘movement’ in ten years.” This is the type of paranoia I am talking about!

    Basheer

  22. #22 by Richard Wilcox on January 14, 2013 - 10:41 pm

    I’m afraid I have to disagree with my long time friends Mark, Hesham and Mike. I think Hesham was misrepresenting James Tracy’s position on the events as well, you should go to an interview he did with Infowars. There is overwhelming evidence that Sandy Hook is not what it appears to be and I am sort of surprised that you guys would take such a strong tack given the lack of evidence to support your thesis, nor do you answer the many valid questions people have about the official story. Mark is convinced the Mossad carried out the 311 Fukushima nuclear disaster despite any clear evidence (some speculation and tell tale signs only). So I am a bit confused over why the fury when people do not longer belleve official stories of very suspicous events. True enough, you should not believe everything on the internet, and I would start with the diinformation artist Jim Stone! But yes, I do not buy every theory for Sandy Hook being offered, as do you not. I have heard the Mossad did it as did the IRA, lack of evidence on both accounts. But clearly what we are being told is a pack of lies and far from the truth. Thanks, that’s just my silly opinion!

  23. #23 by Richard Wilcox on January 14, 2013 - 10:50 pm

    Guys (and dolls),
    I just wrote a very long and thoughtful message but for some reason it did not post. Anyway, I have to disagree with Mark, Mike and Hesham on this one. True, lots of nonsense on the internet but the official story is more nonsensical. Take care, Rw

  24. #24 by LindseyNarrates.wordpress.com on January 14, 2013 - 11:39 pm

    Dr. Wilcox, I am absolutely convinced that the STUXNET virus was responsible for this world-wide catastrophe, and therefore, israHell DID do “311.” I am not sure exactly what Brother Mark Glenn believes about that, but I stand firmly on what “I” believe; however, this Sandy Hook thing really bothers me because there are simply too many in-consistencies, and the behavior of the family members is completely abnormal, among many other reasons.

    Ladies and gentlemen, we at TIU have a massive Topic devoted to Sandy Hook, full of the reports as they have occurred, and news stories and videos as they are posted and made, so please participate in the conversation.

    http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17051&start=315

    Lindsey

  25. #25 by Abdurrahman on January 14, 2013 - 11:47 pm

    Let me just get a few things out the way first, I do not know what happened at Sandy Hook: a government conspiracy or some kid goes nuts and shoots a bunch kids both scenarios are plausible.

    Also it’s worth mentioning I am not a supporter of Dr Fetzer, I have encountered some of his work but not all.

    Now after those disclaimers I’ll state my case of which I am certain: 1) the argument that by endorsing the theory that the US government or Israel were behind the Sandy Hook ‘incident’ somehow undermines the ‘truth movement’ is a falsehood. Being associated with any movement that challenges the official narrative undermines one’s genuine position in the media. For example, being associated to holocaust denial undermines any ‘alternative’ narrative regarding the 9/11 attacks. 2) Tillawi’s condemnation of Dr Fetzer’s position on the grounds that it is purely theoretical is hypocritical. That coin has two sides; on what grounds can Tillawi confirm the official narrative? We all know the media lies so why believe this story? That’s not to say it’s not true but to base one’s condemnation of another’s narrative solely on media reports which cannot be independently confirmed is a falsehood.
    Mark it is a mistake to make this matter a divisive issue, it’s not.

  26. #26 by The Equalizer on January 15, 2013 - 12:44 am

    @deadbeat; I agree with what you are saying in #11, #6, and #3. My complaint comes from Mr. Tillawi not letting Dr. Fetzer finish his points. I had never heard of this fellow before and even mixed him up with the fellow from Florida Atlantic University that Piers Morgan tried to trap into an “ambush” interview on the same topic. A topic I think is EXTREMELY foolhardy because of reasons stated by you and Mark G. To try and tie IsraHel and Mossad into Newtown is stupid and counter-productive without any more evidence than “seems likely”. This is exactly what the “enemy” wants us to do to dis-credit the movement.
    Where I was annoyed was Mr. Tillawi’s constant interruption of Dr. Fetzer when he was trying to answer a question. Let the man speak so we can decide for ourselves. If a man is a fool, he will “hang” himself in short order by his own words. That is all. Mark G would never do that to a guest.

  27. #27 by Ingrid B on January 15, 2013 - 1:25 am

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with keeping an open mind, or asking questions..

  28. #28 by zion will fall on January 15, 2013 - 3:06 am

    since when is the opinion or the agenda of the jewish owned MSM of any importance?
    as a matter of fact sandy hook WAS staged,a giant PSY-OP,and yes,no kids died.
    MG calling it cookery is understandable,as he fears for the credibility of 911 truth aso,yet he should be confident enough to realize,that those seeing through the charade since teh USS liberty event don`t give a rats ass about what the jewish owned MSM is feeding the sheeple.

  29. #29 by Frank on January 15, 2013 - 2:58 pm

    I have listened to Dr Tillawi for many years and have always found him to be a gentlemen and a decent human being.

  30. #30 by LindseyNarrates.wordpress.com on January 15, 2013 - 6:07 pm

    Frank, you obviously have been listening to a different program because he is NOTORIOUS for being rude, dis-respectful, and condascending to his callers, not to mention his arrogance. I have held-my-tongue regarding Tillawi for a VERY long time, but after that “interview” with Dr. Fetzer, I no longer have any reason to not tell it as I have seen it for several years.

    Lindsey

  31. #31 by Bill on January 16, 2013 - 1:46 am

    Sandy Hook is the 911 of Gun Control.

    We Saw it happen today already in NY via Cuomo and more is expected.

    From the Shooting Charity fundraising site being set up 3 days before the actual shooting, to the paid actors like Rosen and Robby Parker, to the discrepencies and reports of other shooters dressed in black being apprehended in the woods by the police…to no video being released.

    Not a good interview, Dr. Fetzer handled it well.

  32. #32 by Frank on January 16, 2013 - 2:15 am

    Lindsey, you have posted 5 negative comments on this subject, I believe you now have a flapping tongue problem.

  33. #33 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on January 16, 2013 - 3:28 am

    #25 by Abdurrahman on January 14, 2013 – 11:47 pm

    “I do not know what happened at Sandy Hook.”

    Then, why don’t you let those who know talk instead?

    BAFS

  34. #34 by Carlos on January 16, 2013 - 4:51 am

    What is the common denominator of a mainstream psy-op? The “Lone Gunman” principle.
    Thats how I Know something else is going on.

  35. #35 by bigcree1Shadowhawk on January 16, 2013 - 6:43 am

    There IS something dreadfully wrong with the Official Sandy Hook Story and it should be gone over by independent investigators. Don’t get me wrong here as I do NOT buy the ‘No children killed’ assertion. But there are lots of unanswered questions that need to answered and by honest brokers. Mark G why not invite Spitzer on your show for a round of questions, between yourself and he alone? It would be better that way in my humble opinion. From the looks of it most commentors here feel the same way. Thanks ahead of time.

  36. #36 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on January 16, 2013 - 6:59 am

    #31 by Bill on January 16, 2013 – 1:46 am
    Sandy Hook is the 911 of Gun Control.

    The plan for total gun control was a UN one made public in the seventies. All this gossip and talk for nothing!

    For this reason (and others) we at the Original Muslim Parliament in London (not the bogus present one) campaigned for all Muslim countries to get out of the UN!

    BAFS

  37. #37 by Bill on January 16, 2013 - 3:34 pm

    Watch the video at 13 minutes to 15 minutes.
    The so called Bushmaster Rifle is removed FROM The Trunk of the Stolen car used by Lanza! It was Not in the school!
    The officials admit as much. Then they changed their story.

    Eyewitnesses ID 2 other shooters in the woods wearing black and camo, one from a helicopter via police reports.
    Meanwhile, DHS just ahappens to be in the area conducting ‘Drills’

    The whole story stinks to high heaven, 1 group of people loves to massacre children. But in this case, we dont know the entire story, no video released, no bodies shown.

  38. #38 by Bill on January 16, 2013 - 4:01 pm

    These are most of the actors who are members of the Actors Guild that ‘performed’ at Sandy Hook.
    The Greenbergs are featured at about minute 15.

  39. #39 by Bill on January 16, 2013 - 4:48 pm

    MG,
    This is the best video on the Sandy Hook False Flag…actual police scanner audio.
    Please forward to Hesham.

  40. #40 by woodchuck111 on January 16, 2013 - 5:05 pm

    Yes, the story does stink to high heaven and it is naive and ridiculous to not recognize that. It can’t be explained by moral degeneracy and/or kids playing violent video games or on drugs and it’s obvious that the “official” story is BS.. For a balanced view, google “Carolyn Yeager Sandy Hook” to find her Part 1 and Part 2 podcasts on this subject. All you really need is to listen to Part 2.

  41. #41 by annebeck58 on January 16, 2013 - 11:18 pm

    First of all, I am sure this was not a, “staged event”. I think immediately going there actually creates more problems for the truth-movement (Israhell and 9-11 truth, both.)
    How I see this is: Yes, this young man who obviously had problems, did shoot children. I do not believe the children are made-up or not dead, either. I am sure the parents have seen their dead children and anyone who says differently without knowing directly from family, that this may be true, is stirring the pot. Who buried their children if they did not? I mean; seriously?? I believe it’s quite easy to talk others into spree-killings such as this when the person(s) involved are outcast and socially inept or loners. To say this happened, for sure, is not smething I’d do, though. It only hurts the families and creates many problems for people who do care about the truth of all different false-flags.

    I feel that, of course, the media is concentrating on the crazy stories about the movement, because it gives them more time for other horrors when people are looking the other way. Stop it with Sandy Hook and look at what else is happening throughout the world (particularly military operations as Israhell and the USA murders plenty of other people daily.)
    Wake up people. It’s not ALL a conspiracy. There’s plenty that is and of course these false-flags are to cause us to look away from what is truly going on.

    I am sick to death of being told that the people from Sandy Hook, both the children and/or the parents and the emergency workers, are all actors and fake. How stupid can people be?

    Concentrate your efforts where they need to be concentrated and not the b/s of what the media is helping to keep in your view. Jeez-Louise…
    Some truthers make us all look nutts/

  42. #42 by annebeck58 on January 16, 2013 - 11:53 pm

    Oh, and I completely agree with Dr Tillawi. Those who go off the cliff on the craziness of Sandy Hook do help to discredit all of us and every other, “theory”and even fact, out there.
    I think Dr Fetzer’s ideas are a bit off.
    First of all, the truth of one of the guys arrested/ detained, is that one was a parent of a child or children at the school. Nothing more or less. The other person (in the woods) was found to simply be a passer-by.
    People are even going nutts over the school parking-lot being filled with cars. Have these people never gone into an open school building? Teachers park in always too small parking lots with not enough spaces for all of them. Whose cars are these? — the teachers who drive to school.

    I cannot go along with this insane theory that Mossad was involved in this. However, Mossad can sure as heck take advantage of it, now, when dummies are looking at Sandy Hook and away from what their true current activities are.

    Find some proof, not just rumor and innuendo; until people back up all of their theories with facts, they look batty ape-ch***…
    I have yet to see ONE fact backing up any of this garbage said about Sandy Hook and I think that is pretty insane/ Keep making things up and they will take your guns! They’ll find these people, who go on and on about how Mossad did this mentally incompetent, in fact.

    No, Sandy Hook does not make 9-11 Truthers not truthful. It just makes them look crazy. Think about that. Thank you, Dr Tillawi.

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