ed note–One of the reasons that those with even a modicum of critical thinking skills have questions about these various ‘nationalist’ groups who carry a disproportionate amount of Nazi baggage with them. They may say the right things dealing with organized Jewish power, but if at the same time they are behaving like members of a cult that worships Adolph Hitler, at the end of the day they are serving Zionist interests, given the fact that the anti-Hitler propaganda is something that has penetrated the western mind down to the cellular level.
Certainly any successful movement working against organized Jewish interests needs to tell the truth concerning Hitler, the Holocaust and to debunk the lies propagated about both, but to create a cult around these issues that will get NO TRACTION with the majority of people only gives groups like ADL, Simon Wiesenthal et al the ammunition they need to discredit all anti-Zionist groups, including those who have no affiliation with Hitler/Holocaust revisionism whatsoever.
Haaretz
An extreme-right political party in Greece played a Nazi anthem during a charity event Wednesday which the authorities had attempted to ban.
A Greek version of the Nazi Horst Wessel song – known as “keep the banner flying” in Greek – was played on loudspeakers outside the central Athens offices of the Golden Dawn party, where members handed out bags of food and clothing. Horst Wessel was the unofficial anthem of the Nazis and the song is banned in Germany, along with Nazi symbols.
A video of the event, in which the song is clearly audible, was posted on the party’s website.
Party members distributed the food parcels after checking recipients’ identity cards to make sure that non-Greeks were excluded.
Golden Dawn, which has campaigned aggressively against illegal immigration and Greece’s international economic bailout, has seen a surge in support during the current financial crisis and the dramatic rise in poverty and unemployment in Greece.
The party won nearly 7 percent of the vote in general elections last year, with popular support continuing to rise, according to opinion polls.
City authorities and the Greek police had banned Golden Dawn from using a nearby square to stage Wednesday’s charity event and set up a large police cordon to prevent protests against the decision. But large crowds of supporters gathered outside the party building chanting, “Foreigners out of Greece.”
“The crime we committed was that we wanted to hand out food to Greeks only. If we’d handed it out to Pakistanis and blacks, there would have been no problem,” party leader Nikolaos Michaloliakos told supporters.
Wednesday’s event was held on the 39th anniversary of the restoration of democracy in Greece, following the collapse of a 1967-74 military dictatorship. “We didn’t choose this day by coincidence,” Michaloliakos said. “They say they are celebrating the return of democracy. But they are really celebrating state thievery, scandals, and treason.”
Greek Public Order Minister Nikos Dendias described Golden Dawn as a “pathetic copy of Nazi totalitarianism” and officials condemned the choice of date. Panos Skourletis, a spokesman for the main left-wing opposition party Syriza, called Michaloliakos’ comments and the playing of the Nazi anthem a “provocation to democracy.”
“They are trying to align problems that people face in Greek society with their own message of hatred and Nazism,” Skourletis told The Associated Press. “Golden Dawn will only be weakened when the causes of [Greece’s] deep humanitarian crisis are addressed and stopped.”
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#1 by fusion on 07/25/2013 - 9:34
So in your opinion, Hezbollah using ideology to defeat the Jews is fine, and you support their struggle violence notwithstanding. But should the Europeans use ideology to defeat the Jews, then your answer is to fear the Jewish propaganda against Germans, and denounce any threat of violence. And should Jews use ideology and violence to defeat the rest of us, that’s taboo too.
It’s just a reflection of your internal struggle.
ed note–pay attention to what was said rather than succumb to knee-jerk reactions–
‘These various ‘nationalist’ groups who carry a disproportionate amount of Nazi baggage with them, although they may say the right things dealing with organized Jewish power, if at the same time they are behaving like members of a cult that worships Adolph Hitler, at the end of the day they are serving Zionist interests, given the fact that the anti-Hitler propaganda is something that has penetrated the western mind down to the cellular level.’
The western (and especially American) mind is not going to be de-toxified of the anti-Hitler propaganda in this lifetime, and ESPECIALLY NOT by trying to make Americans fall in love with Hitler, and anyone utilizing a strategy such as this in countering Jewish power is doomed to failure. Holocaust/Hitler revisionism needs to be part of the overall approach to waking people up, but to make it the main ingredient only serves Israel and organized Jewish interests, as most people are completely brainwashed on these issues, whereas with other issues where Jewish power can be exposed/attacked, such as money, media, finance, the war, corruption of morals–people are more open to reason.
#2 by fusion on 07/25/2013 - 9:34
Hey is Max French a member of the Golden Dawn?
Check out his jacket in the picture! LOL
Have a great day, Mark!
#3 by Listener in Portugal on 07/25/2013 - 9:34
I agree with Mark Glenn´s comment to this article. Furthermore, a whole subculture which can be described as “whitepowerism” and which repells 99 or 999 people for every one person it attracts, has been deliberately built up over the last 2 or 3 decades to discredit legitimate criticsm of Zionism in Western countries. Suspiciously, these groups which usually have a few dozen members (a large percentage of which are police informants or paid agents provocateurs) get mainstream TV news coverage and slick documentaries made about them. The net result is that to the average TV viewer someone who is criticizing Zionism from a nationalist perspective is automatically identified as some sort of “skinhead”.
#4 by Bonnie on 07/25/2013 - 9:34
What’s wrong with the Anthem? It’s beautiful!
#5 by mikael on 07/25/2013 - 9:34
Hrmfh.
Once again, the morronic use irrelevant histrical rethoric and their agenda is glearing obvious to any creature with still a partly functional brain.
Actions tells what words dont, and all the Neo Nazis are de facto, controlled oposition, no exeptions, ands wordks in close relatins with Millitary and Police as Provos, the same ges to active “Left winged nutts” and to NGOs with a reality, not even mushums can muster.
Juhoo.
And once again, the trick is to slam groups at eatch others, no matter what justification that is behind, that justification is usaly based on twisted asuptions, of reality and the effect of present real politics, jessus f… crist how many times does one have to repeat this, as above.
And all this is a hand over to forces in piltics and finnascial realms, THE arguments for anyting those insane f…. want in the name of “war aganist terror”.
Or where ever they are now, in their insane reality.
This Group is nothing more than an political tool, draged out when its sutable as right now.
To acuse others, humans or race for this present instability and general ecnmical delution and cluster f….ups as long as the stear reatches, is a fallacy and the people They acuse have abslutely NOTHING to do with the present casue of tragedys and econimic isanity, not a f…. thing.
They are victimns of imperialims and plundered by rbberbarns and their hendgmen, the banks.
They have lost mutch more than WE have, and does try to survive at any porrible means and I undertsands that, dont forgett this, the fact that some are criminals dont alter anything.
No, the Glden dawn displays ignorance and is a divertion.
Why they never atttac or acuse the UssA/Israel/NATO for the present situation, tell ME everything about them that I need to know, what else they drule abut is irrelevant, to the present and t the cause of the Hellenic people.
Where is the FIRE inside, Hellens.
Are you dead.
peace
#6 by bigcree1 on 07/25/2013 - 9:34
The history is being uncovered every day regarding the Holohoax. In due time these corrections will exculpate the man so reviled as an ‘Evil Dictator’ by organized jewry from the unfair and relentless negative propaganda they so arrogantly and fervently sullied him with. This Golden Dawn Movement is obviously filled with jewish operatives and the dupes going along with it will come out of it with egg in their faces. I hope it happens and soon. The National Socialist Party died when Adolf Hitler did. Just as WWII history revisionist Ernst Zundel has correctly stated. It served the people of the time & era for that time & era. And they did not behave as these poor imitators, i.e. ‘Golden Dawn’ and the EDL (English Defense League). They are kosheriZed puppets, nothing more.
#7 by Lindsey on 07/25/2013 - 9:34
Mark, it is SO frustrating trying to get people–GOOD people–within the REAL truth-movement to understand that the truth of Hitler/WWII must be sewn carefully; otherwise, people will have the knee-jerk reaction that their jewish/zionist-programming has instilled in them.
The truth of the holyhoax is very easy to show to ANYONE who is WILLING to look at it…but see…that’s the point. People have to be led step-by-step to the truth on these issues due the literal DECADES and GENERATIONS of brain-washing, and I have seen first-hand how quickly people will turn-away from facts/information if it is given to them too quickly. Their minds are simply overwhelmed, and the only thing that they can do to protect their psyche is ignore it.
Mark, keep doing what you are doing because you know-the-score, and you are going-about-this the right way. Sadly, I WISH that we could simply tell people the whole truth, all at once, but because of brain-washing over decades with the media, Hollyweird, TV, THE EDUCATION-SYSTEM, laws jailing people for researching history, and on and on and on, this is simply not possible in THE REAL WORLD.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the point–WE ARE FORCED TO LIVE IN THE “REAL WORLD” AND, LIKE IT OR NOT, HAVE TO DEAL WITH HUMAN-BEINGS ON A REAL-WORLD LEVEL. I hate it, too, but we would all do well to follow Brother Mark Glenn’s example.
Like it or not, that is just the way that it is due the demons walking-on-two-legs’ successes over the decades.
Lindsey
#8 by Chris on 07/25/2013 - 9:34
So they correctly identify the Jew problem, correctly identify that the Holocaust as a fraud and admire the work of Adolf Hitler so therefore they carry a ‘significant amount of Nazi baggage’. Yeah – right. Anyone with a ‘modicum of critical thinking skills’ would see very clearly that despite their respect for the Third Reich that they do their absolute most to distance themselves from the NSDAP. Perhaps the majority of you have not read their platform. Why is it, Mark, that you will quickly refute Jew propaganda in most cases, but are happy to take it on board at other times? The only people using the term ‘Nazi’ to describe the Golden Dawn are the Jew media. They do this with absolutely all European Nationalist parties that are not controlled opposition.
And, bigcree1, the EDL and BNP do not and have not identified the Jews as being a problem at all, so yes, they most certainly have been compromised and are some form of controlled opposition – I can’t disagree with that. No reasonable person would ever support an organisation that carries the Israel flag proudly at any public event. The Golden Dawn, on the other hand, clearly have identified the Jew problem and are equally clearly taking steps to fix the problems as best that they can. What evidence do you have that the Golden Dawn are in any way ‘Jew puppets’? This claim is baseless and absurd. You, of all people, should appreciate a party that is doing its best to support the native people of the land.
I must say that I really don’t understand the motivations of this site at times. Nor the people that read it.
ed note–Golden Dawn has made NO BONES whatsoever about its affection for Hitler, the 3rd Reich and Naziism, so let’s not get into any polemics about how they are unjustly being branded as Neo-Nazis–they are, and they are proud of it.
So be it. I too understand that the entire Hitler/Holocaust narrative is a lie as much as the anti-Islamicism is today. In fact, if we want to get really technical about it, anti-Islamicism is THE NEW ANTI-GERMANYISM, ANTI-HITLERISM, ANTI-3RD REICHISM. If Golden Dawn and their supporters (as well as all their confreres in other white nationalist groups) were as dedicated to historical revisionism as they claim to be, they would be preventing what is the VERY SAME smorgasboard of lies being propagated against Jewry’s new enemies, meaning the Islamic world, but they aren’t. In fact, most of these groups, including Golden Dawn, are doing the Jews’ dirty work for them by promoting and propagating the New anti-Fascism of today, which as we said already, is anti-Islamicism.
Having said that however, those who make undoing something that is already half a century a fait accompli the SOLE FOCUS of their activism are wasting their time. It is too deep, to penetrated to the bone. We have been marinated in it for close to half a century and anyone who thinks that now after 50 years of daily indoctrination that people are ready to hear the other side of the sotry viz a viz Hitler, the Holocaust, etc are living in a dream world.
For all you white nationalist/pro-Hitler/pro 3rd Reich activists who consider yourselves truth warriors–you want to break Jewish power over the western mind? Then start forming alliances with the new ‘3rd reich’, meaning the Islamic world. And if you think that by propagating the same Jewish engineered anti-Islamicism that pervades much of the WN movement, including Golden Dawn, that somehow you are working to curtail the same Jewish power that has destroyed your people and your cultures, then perhaps you deserve what you get in the end.
#9 by bigcree1 on 07/26/2013 - 9:34
Chris, I suggest you look into the Middle Eastern forces many of them Muslims who fought alongside the Germans in BOTH the Wehrmact and the SS. Yes, these brave soldiers were from India, Pakistan, Palestine, Arabia, and several North African Nations. Speaking of which the numbers of black Africans and mischling (half black) soldiers in the German Military. I have done some research into this. Would you as a supporter of Golden Dawn do as Mark Glenn pointed out and become part of this real arm of the SS as the aforementioned? Would you? Would you actually use some real common sense and logic in defeating our common and mortal enemy as the Third Reich did under Adolf Hitler? I can already surmise you are ignorant to these facts, because if you weren’t you would not have made such an erroneous and inapplicable comment. Honestly Chris, you need to do some serious research. Begin by going to Justice For Germans. Here I will provide a link
http://justice4germans.com/
Do yourself a favor Chris. Go there..I also suggest you search historian Veronica Clark and her book ‘Germany’s black Nazis’
You have a lot of work to do! Don’t try and lecture me on this as I have and continue to delve deep into it. And I don’t shoot fro the hip. If I aim at a target I have some practice under my belt BEFORE shooting!
#10 by bigcree1 on 07/26/2013 - 9:34
Suggested viewing for ‘Mr Golden Dawn’ Chris. Listen to Ernst Zundel and what he thinks of ‘Neo Nazis’ and the various ‘Skinhead’. groups being played by jewish Hollywierd. Listen to the ENTIRE interview and LEARN something for once before shooting off your big mouth!
#11 by NLG on 07/26/2013 - 9:34
Going to another extreme isn’t the answer. That’s just giving into the division game. The louder you play Nazi theme music, the happier they get, because they get a whole new toolbox to use against you.
The Greeks are suffering and see no end in sight. This is a reaction, and all reactions can be used against you. What is being done to them will be done to the rest. Greece was just a trial run.
I think we can stop it, or at least mitigate it, IF we rise up. Look at Congress’s latest vote to KEEP the NSA spying. Reminds me of the Morlocks feeding on the Eloi in The Time Machine. Look at how easily the police came out to crush OWS, like Wall Street security guards. The scary thing: the government has long been preparing for mass civil unrest. We need new ways to resist and frustrate the machinery.
We need to educate people so they DON’T join the military. The children who are ten and younger will be the ones pushed into The Big One, I think. The more of them we can educate (or have) and raise with a new spirit, the better chance we have of really changing what’s coming. I’m not saying give up on the adults, I’m saying we need to CREATE, literally, a new generation, a vanguard, to deal with this menace. Face it. That’s been one of their mist powerful tactics. Family, united, and the raising of children who are hyper aware of this evil will be the only thing that saves civilization from this cancer.
#12 by T. Collins on 07/26/2013 - 9:34
Mark,
For such an astute political writer, Its somewhat apparent that you know little of Greek history and the Greek persecution at the hands of Islamists.
The Greeks national capital was stolen from them most violently centuries ago-Constantinople, then sacked and turned into a mosque, as were all of their churches.
Do not expect the Greeks to forget this historical fact anytime soon.
They have Long memories as my relationships with Greeks tells me. The animosity between the Greek and Turks even over Cyprus today is a source of great tension, they warred and skirmished brutally not too long ago.
Additionally, Greek is being overrun with immigrants, mostly Blacks/Muslims who are burdening the load for Greeks, already overtaxed, underpaid and underemployed. This also is a source of great tension and will not go away.
Islam in its entire history, NEVER has expelled Jewry. Never. Not once. There is no reason TO ally with Islam, given that fact that I can see.
Secondly, their dietary and Circumcision rituals are identical. That is not a coincidence many will tell you. It allowed and allows for subversion and infiltration at the highest ranks, from the Donmeh Jews in Turkey who killed 3 million Armenians and Turks to the House of Saud.
But the bigger question Why isnt Islam reaching out and working on alliances if your logic is so sound? And why arent Islam nations encouraging Europeans from Europe to come and offer santuary, free housing, food and emplyment with anti persecution laws on the books?
You cant have it both ways, Mr. Glenn.
GOD Bless Golden Dawn for doing Our Lords work.
They are feeding the homeless, promoting Justice for those with no voice, taking back Greece and restoring power to the people not the Banksters. And they are more populat than ever. Look for this model to grow internationally.
ed note–ok, since we are referncing history here, let me do a little of my own, since history is something of an interest to me.
Remember a guy named Alexander the great? From Greece? LONG BEFORE there was ‘Islam’ and LONG BEFORE there was Turkish ‘persecution’ of the Greeks, the Greeks had invaded everything eastward, including Turkey, Persia, Palestine, Syria, as far south as Egypt and east up to the Indus River.
And I am sure that Alexander the Great did not do this conquest through ‘peaceful’ means. He invaded, murdered, sacked, raped, razed, etc, etc, etc, because that is what invading armies do, so please spare us all your very short-sighted ‘history’ lesson about what the Turks did to the Greeks, which we might accurately sum up as being ‘tit for tat’.
As far as the Muslims not ‘expelling the Jews’, you are partly right, They didn’t expel the Christians either, including after the Crusades, when Christians from the West invaded the Middle East and killed EVERYONE, including their own co-religionists.
And as far as Islam not seeking alliances with the west–why would they? For over a century the West has invaded Muslim lands and murdered millions of people under the direction of the Jews, unless of course you want to deny this piece of history as well.
Golden Dawn, by engaging in the kind of fascist behavior they do, are only playing into the Jews’ hands, and why this needs any explanation to anyone with 3 functioning brain cells is beyond me.
#13 by TC on 07/26/2013 - 9:34
I think this is wrong on many accounts….
World Jewry is SCARED TO death of what is occurring in Greece.
They see and know a resurgence is happening, that Hitler set the standard for prosecuting Jewrys crimes In Germany, his printing interest free money with NO gold, establishing the worlds greatest economy in 5 years, and jailing Freemasons and Jewry.
ed note–world Jewry is NOT ‘scared to death’ about what is happening in Greece. As long as Golden Dawn continues goose-stepping, referencing Nazi themes, inflicting violence against immigrants and continues on with its anti-Islamic message (the most vital component to the Jews’ ‘clash of civilizations’) the Jews will allow GD to continue, all the while feigning fear and worry. Jobbik–with its anti-Judaic message while at the same time finding alliance with Islam and the east is what has got the Jews ‘scared to death’ because they know that as soon as the west and east unite against them they have no chance.
#14 by TC on 07/26/2013 - 9:34
Could Golden Dawn come to America? Or are they already here?
Ideas are dangerous are they not….just as Stalin claimed. More than guns even.
Big Cree1…youre talking about the exception, not the rule.
Few blacks, few muslims, even a few Jews fought with Germany. Too few it would appear now, wouldnt it?
Not joining the military isnt the answer either, abolishing the military is.
What part of NO STANDING ARMY, dont you understand as per our Founding Fathers?
#15 by bigcree1 on 07/26/2013 - 9:34
NLG I couldn’t agree. And to TC we are the exception to the rule and by our examples, other swill follow. It’s doable and a must do at that. I stand ready and know that many others feel the same and are taking as many actions as possible to rid ourselves finally of this menace as NLG properly called it.
#16 by bigcree1 on 07/26/2013 - 9:34
TC it was the Iriquois Confederacy your ‘Founding Fathers’ went to for advice and guidance in their desire to form a true Republic free from the suffocating death grip of the jewis Banksters in London so spare me you arrogant ‘come back’. I don’t need to be ‘schooled’ as if ai don’t know my history. Chief Ghaana’ Sadedo of the Iriquois Confederacy gave Benjamin Franklin, Cadwalter Colton, James Madison and John Hancock the INVITE to come observe the Counsel House meetings and to learn how this once divided Confederacy of tribes developed and maintained an almost Utopian political System based on mutual respect and a well organized militia of seasoned warriors. This event is recorded in history TC. Once again I suggest you look it up. These new comers agreed with most of what they observed over time, while noting all aspects of the structure and order of the Iriquois Confederacy with the exception of two major elements. The most vital were the Clan Mothers. This would be likened to Congress today as they held the power of the House. The decision to elect and UNelect Chiefs and other leaders was exclusively theirs (Clan Mothers). Secondly was the right of ALL members of all ages to vote. Votes on all things were unanimous; no exceptions. The ‘Founding Fathers’ struck these as they were ‘men’ from a Country where women & children were ‘seen & not heard’. I could go on but suffice it to say TC you are in position to pontificate to me about this Topic; ‘The Founding Fathers’ as it were. They were lost without the guidance of the First Nations and their wise counsel. Enough said. I will not suffer fools.
#17 by bigcree1 on 07/26/2013 - 9:34
To reiterate in my comment to TC. You TC are in NO position to pontificate what you ‘think’ you know about the so called ‘Founding Fathers’ who would have been lost without the proper counsel and guidance of the First Nations (Iriquois Confederacy).
#18 by bigcree1 on 07/26/2013 - 9:34
Thankyou Mark G. People like TC & Chris have their heads on backwards and lack the necessary critical mass with which to discern fact from illusion.
#19 by TC on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
Big Cree1
What part of NO STANDING ARMIES dont you get?
Our Revolutionary war was not fought with Indians! ‘Advice and guidance’ is hardly an alliance….
Mr. Glenn…
Europe was almost overrun BY Islam, and surely it wasnt in peace.
Overrun As far as Sicily, Southern France, Spain and Portugal, Monarchs were attacked as were the residents, often financed by Jews. All of North Africa was reclaimed-stolen by Islam as was the Middle East.
The Crusades as a justifiable response, reclaimed STOLEN Christian Lands. Greeks know this very well and STILL remember the horrors inflicted via Constantinople.
You just said as far as Islam seeking alliances..’Why would they?’ Very astute and honest.
Your Saint John Capistrano also instructed Christians on Jews and Muslims, reading him might be of worthwhile to you.
And YES, Jewry is scared of Golden Dawn.
Once they start printing interest free currency and showing the world how a nation rises up again, like a great fire, it will spread. It is part of why again a mob of Jews attacked elderly Greek Golden Dawn supporters. A coordinated attack by 60+ people.
I find the logic of your argument to be with fault.
Its similar to Urging all Buddhists to unite and fight ‘the West’ which WAS the USA during the Vietnam war, would be ludicrious, rather than stopping the war at home, indicting the war criminals from military, government and banking sectors.
Such is the argument you offer out. No one wishes more war with Islamic and Christians (All once Christian Nations) but forging an alliance with the same is not practical or possible.
I can assure you that the Christian West (America)has little in common with Islam or Middle Easterners, and wishes to just live alone and seperately from Islamists. Applies to Illegals as well.
We dont share common ground on much of anything, thats the reality, as much as you argue otherwise, for better or worse. Our cultures are not compatible.
Go to Columbus or Miinneapolis to Somali Town and ask the suburban residents about white flight. Go to Detroit in the Muslim quarter and talk to the Christians who also flee to Gross Point and nearby suburbs. Or take on a move there and see how you like it. Send your children to their schools.
The Middle East is already fighting the West and doesnt need our help to defeat Israel. Americans will never side with Muslims to promote and spread Islam.
As far as Fascism, with its focus being on Its OWN Citizens and standing for Nationalism, IT Is diametrically opposed to Bolshevism, and for you or anyone to condemn it is reprehensible unless you are promoting Marxism.
ed note–the Crusades had nothing to do with ‘reclaiming’ lands owned by Christians that were stolen. It was about Western Feudal imperialism and the fact that you have bought into this nonsense tells me what an amateur we are dealing with here.
Furthermore, the fact that the West–‘saved’ from Islam as you put it, has now become the instrument of evil for Jewish designs indicates that perhaps it would have been better for the world in the long run had the Muslims completely taken over Europe, as Islam forbids usury as well as every other type of Judaic poison that is now being spread throughout the world via western outlets.
#20 by TC on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
As far as schooling goes…
We must say that its interesting that Muslims and other Minoriites get Free college Grants to our finest schools like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Wharton and Duke, White White Students get Judaized Student Loans, WITH Interest. And are penalized for being white at admission time while affirmative action places priority on minorities.
They are here not to become Americans and integrate, but to make money…thats the bottom line. This is true with illegals as well. The more discerning Americans already know this and why the backlash.
#21 by TC on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
World Jewish Congress urges Greece to act against ‘new Nazis’ Golden Dawn’
This was your article. But you then contradict yourself when I pointed out the Jewry is scared to death of Golden Dawn and what they represent when you type..
‘world Jewry is NOT ‘scared to death’ about what is happening in Greece. As long as Golden Dawn continues goose-stepping, referencing Nazi themes, inflicting violence against immigrants and continues on with its anti-Islamic message (the most vital component to the Jews’ ‘clash of civilizations’) the Jews will allow GD to continue, all the while feigning fear and worry. Jobbik–with its anti-Judaic message while at the same time finding alliance with Islam and the east is what has got the Jews ‘scared to death’ because they know that as soon as the west and east unite against them they have no chance.’
Well, which is it? It cant be both..
I do not understand why do you insist that starving Greece nation favor and feed African and/or Middle Eastern muslim illegals over its own Greek citizens? Why Greeks cannot denounce any immigration while it is depressed and starving and why citizens cannot work to deport the illegals?
ed note–no one is saying any such thing. No one is even INTIMATING IT, so how–other than letting your own paranoia, deranged imagination and lack of critical thinking skills–do you read such a thing into this?
Your reaction is typical of WNs who are driven more by emotion than reason and who have adopted much of the same argumentative and thinking patterns as Jews do. When some Judaic shortcoming–either towards individuals or groups–is raised, Jews react with screeching and theatrics, accusing the person of being a ‘Jew hater’ and of wanting to bring about another ‘Holocaust’.
And, sadly, likewise with individuals such as you. When the shortcomings of western countries or of WN individuals such as yourself are raised, the reaction is as irrational as that of Jewish elements, where persons making such statements are accused of being ‘white haters’ of of wanting to bring about ‘white genocide’.
The numbers speak for themselves–your WN ‘movement’ gets no attention and draws no real numbers and the only traction you get is amongst lonely, bored, marginalized individuals who are not as much interested in a rational plan to take back their countries but rather in being part of a boo hoo hoo group where they can cry on each others’ shoulders.
#22 by Romans70AD on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
@Mark Glenn
I said to myself months ago that I would not return to TUT, as I had concerns about some of the issues you were pushing. I was redirected to this story from the site What Really Happened, and after reading the comment section I was proved correct, sadly. Your reaction to the WNM, who I certainly do not support, has made you erratic Mark. You have lost all reason, and have clearly shown yourself to have an anti-white, anti-European bias. You claimed that you were the winner in the heated debate. Well Mark you lost my respect, the derogatory terminology you used, ”white trash”, ”trailer park trash”, ”rednecks”, etc.. Proved that you have no problem using very Jewish terms in describing white people whom you disagree with. And describing white people who have deep concerns about the dangers we are facing as ”Hysterical”. Mass immigration is destroying Europe, and you claim it’s all because ”white armies” are invading their countries. Which is a false assertion. The mass migration from Islamic countries began long before the fake ”war on terror”. It is a provable fact who is behind the invasion of the migrants, it’s the Jews, to deny this is to support their agenda.
ed note–‘lost all reason’. Well, if that were the case, then we would certainly see evidence of it besides you and what is a handful of others issuing complaints. We would see wholesale defection from both the website and the radio programs, neither of which has happened. International outlets such as Press TV, Russia Today and others would stop asking for interviews and would put as much distance between themselves and me (us) as possible. By contrast, what has happened is that both the readership and listenership at TUT has gone up to the point that I have to spend more time than before in dealing with comments, emails, interviews, etc.
Next, here is a newsflash–there is such thing as ‘White Trash”, just as their is ‘Black Trash’, ‘Asian Trash’ etc. I reserve the use of that term for racists who refers to non-whites with terms such as ‘nigger’, ‘haji’, ‘gook’, ‘Paki’, etc. I have civil disagreements with people all the time–from all spectrums, without being forced by circumstances to use such terminology. However, when the show fits, I make sure they wear it.
And next, immigration IS the result of a deliberate campaign to make the lands of these people uninhabitable, through war, economic exploitation, etc, and for anyone with 3 functioning brain cells to deny this tells me you are living detached from reality.
In relation to the story about the Golden Dawn, .let me just say that although not a supporter of their movement, I understand why they choose to help feed their people and only their people. The state, which lets their own children starve, Greek children are fainting at school for lack of food, where as the immigrant children are fed from state coffers, at the behest of the EU. Old age pensioners are riffling through dumpsters in search of a meal, and they have passed laws to stop this. But they haven’t passed laws to feed the starving, so the Golden Dawn have stepped in.
Mark the objective of the Golden Dawn is not to ”Detoxify the American mind” from their brainwashing at the hands of the Jewish media in relation to the fake Holocaust, and History of WW2, and after. They are supporting their people, the Greek people, why in Hell would they give a second thought about people who remain silent when their Country is going around the world killing millions of people and poisoning many more.
ed note–I habe no problem with Golden Dawn or any other group of people taking care of their own. If you bothered to read carefully my comments instead of succumbing to the all-too-common reactionary knee jerkism, what I said is that any group today claiming to work against Jewish power but then who engages in openly pro-Nazi rhetoric and behavior, as well as engaging in violence against immigrants and in propagating Jewish-created Islamophobia is doing the Jews’ dirty work for them. Again, if this needs explanation then this is a discussion that is way over your head.
I would not have even commented here had I not read one of the most disgraceful comments I’ve come across on the internet, it’s one you posted to TC above.
”perhaps it would have been better for the world in the long run had the Muslims completely taken over Europe”.
As a European, and a Christian how dare you write such tripe. Telling us that our Ancestors would have been better off living under the Ottoman Empire, under Sharia law, living as Dhimmis, paying a tax so that they could live. I seriously suggest you do some research on the History of the Balkans and see how they lived under the Ottomans. Having their children taken from them, forcibly converted to Islam. The girls often sent to a Harem, the boys sent to serve in the Ottoman army.
ed note–once again, use your brain, pay attention to what I said and engage in come critical thinking. What I said specifically was as follows–
‘Furthermore, the fact that the West–’saved’ from Islam as you put it, has now become the instrument of evil for Jewish designs indicates that perhaps it would have been better for the world in the long run had the Muslims completely taken over Europe, as Islam forbids usury as well as every other type of Judaic poison that is now being spread throughout the world via western outlets.’
The Christian West, now firmly under the heel of international Jewry, has murdered millions of people around the world, just in the last few years, and if the Jews get their way, that number will change from ‘millions’ with an M into ‘billions’ with a B. If the Jews are so closely alligned with Muslims, as some half-witted/bird-brained WNs assert, why are they not using Islam as the instrument of their power the way they are the Christian world? Simple–because Islam has within it a systemic program of not allowing the Jews to accumulate and wield power, unlike the Christian world, which views Judaism as it’s ‘elder brother’ in the faith. So in the final analysis, had Europe fallen to Islam the way that the Middle East did, there would be no New World Order, there would have been no WWI or WWII. There would have been no Bolshevik Revolution. And as far as your ridiculous assertion that Christians would have been persecuted and slaughtered under Muslim rule, then please explain to me and the rest of the sane world why there are tens of millions of Christians living in Islamic countries today, along with all their churches, their shrines, etc?
The recent History of Greece has always been at odds with Turkey, a Muslim country who has a History of Genocide against Christians, Armenians, Greeks, and so on. Why do you expect them to have a favourable attitude toward Muslims? Are they to deny their History, their ancestors just to fit in with your ideology. An ideology which totally ignores the daily crimes committed by Muslims in Europe, see no evil hear no evil, that;s your position, and it is wrong minded.
ed note–The turks who massacred the Armenian Christians were Jews, financed by their cousins in Europe and America who pretended to convert to Islam in what was a deliberate, concerted effort to paint Islam as a violent religion as a precursor to initiating the wars in the Middle East that began a century ago. Furthermore, as I pointed out in a recent comment on this very issue, while we are talking about the Turks invading Greece and doing awful things to them, let’s remember that this ‘bad blood’ began with the Greeks under Alexander invading Turkey and doing all of this first.
You said to me one night in the Chat ”that you believe Islam can save Europe”, one of the reasons I left. What kind of a Christian would make such a ridiculous statement? That statement alone proves you to be the other side of the coin as the Heretic Hagee, the Zio-Christian, who believes the Jews will save us all. A real Christian believes Christ to be the saviour, not Islam. You view Islam from the perspective of the Shia, who are the minority sect, 10%. And ignore the ideology of the Sunni muslims, particularly when they are in Europe, they can do no wrong in your eyes.
ed note–what I said and which I continue to say is that the morally anemic state the west finds itself in with a Christian world that has now been turned into an instrument of the devil stands to at least have the precepts of natural law re-instilled in it through the presence of Muslims who do not embrace the inherently judaic practices such as abortion, homosexuality, porn, etc that have destroyed the west. This is a no-brainer and that it needs explaining to you I find very perplexing. This is the main reason the Jews have decided that Islam MUST be destroyed through war, because it refuses to succumb to these evils the way that Christianity has.
When I read your comments addressed to the WNM I have to ask do you ever acknowledge who Max French is? And what He stands for. Max is a good man, and proves to everyone that you can hold views in relation to Hitler, the Nazis, WW2, etc…without being a hater. Much of your diatribe in relation to the WN could also apply to him. I am not equating Max with a supremacist by any means.
ed note–Max and I agree on virtually everything, and how this fact has escaped your notice I find equally perplexing. He has as much a distaste for the ‘white trash’ types who give WN a bad name as I do.
Judging by your recent behaviour I fully expect you to respond to me in a disrespectful manner, making your point, and claiming you have defeated me. But I would implore you to knock off your recent nonsense, and return to the reasonable man we all know you can be.
ed note–I am the same man I always was. What has happened is that individuals such as yourself who do not listen well react to things which you think you are hearing but which in reality do not exist. I have dealt with it throughout all the years I have done what I do and I can spot it from a mile away.
And for the record Mark I’m not the only one who left your site because of your recent behaviour, as I keep in touch with some of the friends I made here in the past. Delaney and his ilk dragged you down to their level, and your reaction to them was unseemly. I believe that when you dragged Scott Roberts into this by posting his picture, and censoring his comments, refusing to debate him, showed signs of an immaturity. If you are so sure you are right, what do you have to fear.
ed note–I don’t ‘debate’ individuals such as Scott Roberts and his ilk because there is no ‘debating’ irrational individuals. It is like trying to have a reasonable discussion with those who see nothing wrong with murdering children in the womb. From the start you know you are dealing with someone whose agenda is not fact driven, but one of emotion, and that nothing you can say will ever impact them. Likewise with the Delaneys, Scott Roberts, John Friends, etc, whose focus is on one thing–the superiority of white people. Furthermore, when I am accused by individuals such as these of being a ‘terrorist’ and a whle host of other libelous charges, you might understand a little why I take a rather jaded view of the idea of ‘debating’ with them.
Whether you believe me or not, I wish you and all of the others here at TUT the best life has to offer. I only hope that you stop with your race baiting, and condemnation of white people. If you really want to score a real victory over white supremacists, challenge their ideology, and stop insulting the white race as a whole, with your ill chosen use of words.
ed note–‘race bating’. LOL. What a laugh. I despise racism in all its forms, one of the reasons I do what I do. I have never said anything derogatory about ‘whites’ when I am one myself, as well as my wife, kids, grandkids, and 99% of the people I know and associate with. My issue (as I have stated hundreds of times) is with white nationalists who engage in very Jewish behavior by embracing the supremacism of their own skin color.
On a personal note, none of this coming from you surprises me a bit. When you first showed up in the chatroom, talking about how much you enjoyed being there, how ‘welcome’ you felt and that it was ‘home’ to you, I privately warned some of those in the chat room to prepare themselves for the explosion that would likely erupt, as I have seen this scenario literally 100s of times. Lonely, marginalized people looking for a ‘club’ to join so that they don’t feel so alone, and then when some tiny wrinkle pops up, (most of the time due to a misunderstanding on their part over something which they think was said but which was not) they march off mad, vowing to never come back.
The only wrinkle in my prediction concerning you was that you approached this thing today in a spirit bordering on reasonable, despite your ridiculous assertions about my ‘anti-whiteism’. Perhaps it is the fact that you are European rather than American, as the Euros seem to have a few less loose screws than their cousins across the Atlantic.
#23 by bigcree1 on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
TC the US Congress even admitted as much.
http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/6Nations/
Secondly we as Indigenous people hold this land to the birthplace of our ancestors as most sacred. Something you don’t exploit for $ale like a prostitute. “Indian” is a misnomer unless you’re referring to the people of the Carthay Empire i.e. Indus River Valley. They are sanskrit speaking people of an entirely different strain. AND they are Aryan. Gosh! How about that!! Many of them are Muslim. Got a problem with that? For somebody who keeps stepping on his proverbial ‘dick’ at every word TC you sure are good at it. Please try and comment again as I find your stupidity and ignorance to be quite amusing. What part of the Iriquois Confederacy being the foundation of the US Constitution do you not get ??
http://www.fnx.org/blog/iroquois-confederacy-foundation-united-states-constitution
#24 by bigcree1 on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
TC Hitler had many people from all over the world in both the Wehrmact and SS. A Multi Racial , Multi- National Force of Soldiers representing the Reich, and they fought side by side. Get your facts straight before making a fool of yourself.
http://www.mourningtheancient.com/truth.htm
#25 by bigcree1 on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
‘Adolf Hitler and the Army of Mankind’
” Before you begin to mount feeble accusations of ‘hater’ and ‘racist’, let’s get a few things straight. Many countries fought on the side of Nazi Germany in WW2, including several non-white ones. One of the two of Germany’s primary allies of the ‘Pact of Steel’ was not white, Japan.
Indians, Asians, Arabs and blacks not only fought on the side of Nazi Germany, but also wore the eagle and swastika on their breast. Dozens of countries volunteered to the elite Waffen SS, including many non-whites of a wide range of ethnic backgrounds. In fact, it was the largest multi-racial fighting force in history! Not to mention also the most religiously diverse as well. The Germans did not segregate their troops. Blacks, Asians, Arabs and Whites all fought and lived side-by-side. ”
(An extract from the above posted link ‘Mourning the Ancient’ )
#26 by Romans70AD on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
@Mark Glenn.
Why have you failed to post my comment ? As I see you have posted other comments written after mine. Is it that you fear that your viewers may begin to question your motives ? Or is it that you will only now post comments from people you feel you can make look stupid.
Have you forgotten Mark that I once made a donation to TUT of $70 ? and now that we have a different opinion on this issue you censor me. This is disgraceful behaviour on your part, plain and simple, and I never expected this from you.
You seem to fear honest debate, why is that ? Have you something to hide ? Or am I also beneath you (Talmudic style), and not worth entering into debate with ? I have spent a long time listening to TUT, and reading the articles, never did I see the side to you which raised it’s ugly head since you went into meltdown over Delaney and his ilk.
Be a man and post the comment, you know damn well almost everyone will agree with you anyway, and condemn me for having the audacity to challenge you on this issue. So now I’m placed in the same category as Delaney, and other white supremacists, and banned. This says more about you than it does about me. You are intolerant to those that dare to disagree with you, as intolerant as a Jew I would say.
If you are too frightened to address what I have said in public, you have my email address, I suggest you explain yourself to me there. Explain to me where I am wrong, and where you are right.
You know damn well I’m no white supremacist, nor a supporter of Delaney, Friend,etc.. However I do believe in your discourse with Roberts you began to show that you do indeed have an anti-white, anti-European agenda. And remember this Mark you dragged him into this. Despite Digger, and Shadow telling you that Roberts is different to Delaney. But you carried on regardless, all knowing, always right.
By not posting my comment, I have seen a side to you that I never imagined existed. And bear in mind I am the same person Egeria wished to have on her show, I have not changed one bit over the past few months. Or did you just take for granted that I was also anti – white, never did I give of such an impression, never. I realize the dangers we are facing impact on all races, but because I don’t feel the need to agree in the bashing of the white race I’m banned. Whoa…..how tolerant of you Mr Glenn. I don’t even get banned on Youtube (Jewtube) for my comments, but YOU ban me….
ed note–your comment WAS posted–
https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/golden-dawn-plays-nazi-anthem-while-handing-out-food-parcels-to-greeks-only/#comment-207685
once again, open your eyes, use your brain and quit behaving like a mental patient. You honestly expect me to take anything you say seriously when you are so unhinged that you can’t even see that the very comment you claim was censored WAS INDEED POSTED, ALONG WITH MY RESPONSE???
And people wonder why I have little patience for types like you. It is like dealing with gradeschool children.
#27 by John in Cali on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
Dear God, MG, please tell me that dealing with headcases like ‘Romans’ is not regular business for you. If it is, than you have our condolences.
#28 by Mike Russell on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
sigh….why is it that the obvious has to be such a point of contention? Golden Dawn and their tactics only help the Jews by painting all resistance to Jewish power as ‘naziism’, a form of brainwashing that is not going to be undone by a few nutcases in the white nationalist movement making a cult out of Hitler and 3rd Reich Germany. Why this needs this much discussion only underscores how ineffective of a movement we are.
And as far as the comments from ‘Roman’, Mark we here at TUT have never perceived anything along the lines of what he is accusing. A sane person with a rational mind can see within 5 seconds that you have no animus against any race of people and that you and the others hosts there at TUT are only working for the good of all, so please keep up your work and ignore the ravings of individuals such as Roman.
#29 by Romans70AD on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
@Mark Glenn.
How laughable your response is, and the fact that you had to break up my comment in parts shows that you are indeed a caricature of a man. It’s so laughable how your fight with Delaney began, by your defence of ZCF, who you would later claim to be as bad as them, ha..
ed note–I did not ‘break up’ your comment. I responded to your various comments point by point. Contain your paranoia. And my ‘business’ with Delaney had NOTHING to do with ZCF whatsoever. I had no interest in it and still do not. What planet are you living on?
The fact that I was made to feel welcome at TUT was to do with others in the comment section, and the chatroom. There was never anti – white issues mentioned then, never. You only welcomed me because I donated to TUT after hearing another of your begging bowl pleas. If I am so unstable with a few screws loose why not return said donation to me then, I’ll donate it to the Greek children.
As for warning people about me, I should have heeded the warnings others spoke to me about.
As for we Europeans having more screws loose than Americans, what a laugh, is there any country in the world fighting the Jews wars for them like the Americans are at present ? Killing millions of Iraqis, Afghanis, poisoning millions more with depleted uranium. Yeah, real sane country you got there. Where they also in their right mind when they attempted Genocide upon the Native tribes, your comical. We”re so crazy and your all so sane, and moral. What a sick joke..
ed note–I did not say Europeans have more loose screws than Americans, but rather the opposite. Once again, use your brain and pay attention. You are making an absolute idiot out of yourself.
The reason you are welcome on Press TV is that you are so pro Muslim, and anti Western in your approach, at all times. As for RT, its practically a Marxist outfit, covering up the crimes of the Bolshevik Jews, condemning the Ukranians , Latvians, and others who fought for Hitler.
ed note–the reason I am welcome on Press TV is because I am not a stark, raving mad lunatic and I say things that make sense. How about Mark Dankof? Does he fall in the same Camp as yours truly? How about David Duke? He was just on the other day. E. Michael Jones? Etc, etc, etc? Let’s see you wriggle your way out of that one.
You say I’m ”detached from reality”. well then explain to me this Judas how is Islam going to save Europe ? by continuing raping their way through the continent, as they presently are. Recently up in Dublin a handicapped woman was raped by a Pakistani man while she was out jogging with her mother when they were separated. You Mr Glenn ignore reality completely. You ignore and make excuses for the worst behaviour possible, as long as the perpetrators are of the Islamic faith. How Christian of you, but then again I’m not really addressing a Christian, you’re an Islamo-Christian.
Just as Hagee is a Zio-Christian. Jesus would never defend the actions of the Muslims in Sweden, and throughout Europe.
ed note–every day, literally, on TUT there are stories dealing with Islamic terrorism in places such as Syria, Libya, etc, so don’t accuse me of covering up for criminals just because they are muslims. You sound insane.
I am well aware of the Donme which were involve in the Amernian Genocide, but do you seriously mean to say that every one involved in the massacres were Donme, everyone of them, the Turkish Muslims played no part ? If so why then today do the whole Country rally in the denunciation, and claim such a massacre never happened ? Even the Ottoman Empire which you wish conquered the whole of Europe was infiltrated by Jews.
You will not debate Scott Roberts because he’d defeat your arguments, and show others that you do indeed have an anti white agenda. As for you being white I guess you just don’t ever look in the mirror, you are mixed race, not white. You are about as white as Zimmerman is. White when it suits your agenda.
ed note–as I said I don’t ‘debate’ crazy people, which includes the likes of Roberts, Delaney, etc, and sadly now must include you.
As for me being ”lonely” how on earth do you come to such a conclusion ? What do you really know about me ? and in what way do you feel that I have been marginalized ? I guess you are also psychic Mr Glenn, of course you’re not , you’re just being arrogant, and projecting. I’m not the one living in the middle of nowhere holding my guns at hand, getting ready to blast others. You know nothing about me. If as you say I was looking for a ”club” to belong to why didn’t I remain at club TUT ? Because I didn’t agree with you, I’m not looking to fit in, I only seek the truth. And the truth you peddle sure is ugly, the West is so evil, and Islam so pure. You condemn all of us living in the West for the actions of our leaders and pander to your Islamic leaders in Iran, and beyond. You Mr Glenn are nothing more than the latest incarnation of the Judas Goat.
ed note– I know enough about your personal life from things you have told me to conclude that indeed you are lonely and alienated, and I will do you the respect of not airing these things publicly as a courtesy to you, which you certainly do not deserve.
Do yourself the favor of not commenting here anymore. You will only make things worse for yourself.
ciao
#30 by Romans70AD on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
By the time I posted that comment you had not posted the comment. Be honest and stop trying to create a story for others, by implying that it was posted when it was not. Have a shred of decency, if you are indeed capable of such an act. You may not have patience for as you say types like me, but you seemed to have no problem taking my money.
ed note–you are mental and it is obvious to everyone reading your comments. Please go somewhere else. We have neither the time nor interest to devote to nuttiness such as this.
#31 by Brian on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
Mark, WHHHHYYYYYYY do you waste your time with people such as Romans? He is a blithering idiot and you responding to his lunacy only drags you down to his level. Please shut these people out as they give an otherwise great news website a bad name.
ed note–Brian, I wish it were as simple as that, but unfortunately this is part of the housekeeping those of us in this biz have to do from time to time. LIke weeds, if you let them go untended, they take over.
#32 by Ian on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
‘Romans’ seems to be a common character these days in the cybersphere, throwing around baseless accusations against individuals trying to bring a sane discussion to the problems we are all facing today. Perhaps he should change his name from ‘Romans’ to ‘Judeans’? After all, don’t the Jews lament the year 70 AD, which is the moniker he uses here in the comments section? I smell a rat.
#33 by Lass on 07/27/2013 - 9:34
Ian is probably more right than he (might) know. The Jews know that the old charge of ‘anti-Semitism’ doesn’t work anymore in discrediting their enemies, so they have changed tactics by infiltrating white nationalist movements, posing as members and accusing the Jews’ targets as ‘white haters’ in order to sow dissension. Delaney and Co more than likely fit into this paradigm. He is a criminal and this makes him susceptable to outside pressures.
MG, have you checked the IP address to see if ‘Romans’ is actually Delany in disguise?
ed note–Delaney is somewhere in eastern America and Romans is in the UK, so no, it is not the criminal Delaney, although Romans certainly utilizes much of the same language.
#34 by Bill on 07/28/2013 - 9:34
Unfortunately MG is right–the ‘movement’ is chock full of people like this romans person, who are at your feet one moment and then at your throat the next and over the slightest, most insignificant issues and in the end are worse enemies than the jews themselves.
#35 by Martin on 07/28/2013 - 9:34
MG, how do these ‘Romans’ types reconcile their accusation of you being anti-white with the fact that you live in the whitest part of America, have white hosts on TUT and count as friends more whites than you would see in a snow storm?
ed note–Martin, you’re giving these types more credit than they deserve in terms of logic. They don’t have to prove anything, don’t have make it believable or even make it seem rational. They practice the same method and delivery as the Jews do, where they immediately let loose with a barrage of ANTI SEMITE!!!!!!!!!!!! at anyone they perceive to be working against their interests. The WNs are no different. They don’t want a debate. What they want is to silence any criticism of them or their agenda. In essense, they–Jews and WNs–are 2 sides of the same coin. Each believes that they are ‘God’s chosen people’ and better than everyone else. Each believes there is an international conspiracy to eradicate them and both believe that the universe revolves around them and that without them, all known norms of civilization would cease to exist.
The difference between the two is that the WNs actually think they are working against Jewish interests when in fact by virtue of the obnoxious, racist behavior many of them display, they are actually giving the Jews all the ammo they need to empower themselves and to use this obnoxious behavior as more justification of their destroying western christian society.
#36 by Antiochus on 07/30/2013 - 9:34
The problem here is miscommunication, but also misinterpretation. What it sounds like is when a European party asserts itself and declares Greece will not be the subject/vassal state of Jewish bankers and forced to endure an invasion of immigrants running from both poverty and war (neither of which Greece is responsible for), you guys accuse them of playing into Zionist interests. Its warped logic. Yes, Hitler had a multiracial army – point taken – but he didn’t invite millions of non-Western/non-Europeans to swamp Germany, that seems to be the opposite of their whole philosophy of nationalism. You guys seem to confuse the two together. I understand that we should work with the cards we’ve been dealt, but each nation is going to have to clean up the mess made by the NWO in their own way. A GD-like party might not be the best approach for overthrowing jewish power in the U.S., and the fact that each individual case is going to have a unique solution with no universal answer seems to be lost on you guys. Everyday it is more and more apparent to me that just as many muslims are dupes for Zionism as westerners – otherwise you would not have the situation at present in Syria, with an impending war on Iran. At the end of the day the idea of anything associated with NS being “baggage” is nonsense – only parties/groups with an identical philosophy/worldview can save the West, and the Jews are fearful as hell if this takes root and spreads across Europe. This is exactly what needs to be done, and I’m sure if they take power non-Greeks who have piled into this small country using the Zio-EU open immigration policy will be peacefully removed back to their lands of origin, that is if they do not have to face a U.S./NATO led invasion as did Serbia. Nationalism is one of the main enemies of the NWO, and yes it can be used as an asset for them, in the same way Islam is both an enemy and an asset. and the point about Alexander is ridiculous, when Greece faced multiple incursions and Persian invasions in years before. We have to STOP worrying about walking on eggshells and staying afar away from the truth, lest we offend people who are brainwashed by Jewish lies – in the end you’re only catering to the Jewish dis/misinformation and vicious propaganda against Germany and what that entire war was really about. I think more and more people are waking up to this and we don’t have shrivel in doubt, we can openly educate people that NS is not a supremacist doctrine, and indeed was the highest culmination of western culture. lastly, the comparison of Jobbik to GD is unfair, because Hungary is not the entrance point into Europe and they do not have the same immigrant problem – yet they do go after and attack Gypsies, a racial minority other than the Jews, and I don’t see anyone accusing Jobbik of “playing into the Nazi stereotype,” even though Jobbik qualitatively is just as openly NS as GD is in style and delivery. TUT is on point on 99% of their views, except this one. its the only hypocritical stance that I see. When you say “ut to create a cult around these issues that will get NO TRACTION with the majority of people only gives groups like ADL, Simon Wiesenthal et al the ammunition they need to discredit all anti-Zionist groups, including those who have no affiliation with Hitler/Holocaust revisionism whatsoever.” – that doesn’t seem to be the case in Greece, does it? They are growing at an unstoppable force and speed, winning the hearts and minds of the Greek people. You should be praising this. If Europe and America followed suit, ALL zionist wars would end and the Jews would be thrown back into the cage that they belong.
ed note–there IS a Hitler cult growing Dana, and this is exactly what the Jews want. The moment that Hitler’s name is thrown into the debate, all rational discussion ends and people succumb to the emotional programming they have received since birth. Those are the facts, like it or not, and the Jews HAVE to have it this way in order to sabotage the discussion.
Therefore, any group that SINCERELY wants to deal with their immigration/demographic problems needs to avoid the Hitler issue like the plague. Playing 3rd Reich music, using 3rd Reich salutes only gives the Jews the ammo they need to paint such and such group as a bunch of fruitcakes who should be thrown into prison or an insane asylum. And please don’t tell me GD is not doing this. I have seen/heard it with my own eyes and ears. The fact that GD is growing at an ‘unstoppable rate’ in Greece means nothing. If these guys were truly the threat to the Jews that your comments intimate, the leaders of this thing would be killed or at the very least arrested on something trumped up, and please don’t tell me that this can’t be done.
As far as your assertion that we have a problem with NS–pay better attention please. Our stance has always been that it is the only viable counterbalance to Jewish capitalism. We have said it over, and over and over. Where we differ is in how such positions should be expressed, and marching around in an SS uniform and affecting a fake German accent is not the way to do it.
Next, who benefits from any anti-Islamic rhetoric? All it does is to fuel the Clash of Civs, which is the Jews’ crown jewel. When Jews see these various nationalist groups engaging in any kind of Islamophobic activity/rhetoric the response worldwide is CHA-CHING. If GD really means what they say they need to be smart about it which includes avoiding all the traps the Jews have laid for them, which includes the cult of Hitler. People–particularly in the west and ESPECIALLY in America, where they hold their heads high with pride over what they did in WWII–will not be ready for a rational discussion about this topic for another half century.
#37 by Antiochus on 07/30/2013 - 9:34
I agree with you on the first paragraph, but that is only in the U.S. really – not in Greece, they are not as susceptible to the years of Jewish indoctrination/programming, and the way I see it, this too is fading. As you have said yourself on many an occasion, “the pity party is over,” I would addend to that that “the Hitler is the world’s greatest demon” narrative is losing face as well.
There is a big difference between the false hollywood nazism image and true NS doctrine and those who know it – so why should the latter hide their symbolism just to appeal to the former. Those evil third reich songs have lyrics about giving bread to their people and overthrowing the jewish criminal financial cabal, doesn’t sound so bad to me.
The main office of the GD has been bombed, there have been many physical attacks on supporters and even elderly constituents, and the media is totally against them, they present a one-sided image of them that portrays them in the way you are making them out to be, as skinhead numbskulls. if a GD member gets in a scuffle it is plastered over the news, if they get attacked, it is not even mentioned. I’ve been following them for years and their leaders are not fakes, I assure you. They have daily street battles with Jewish leftist proxy forces, anarchists, communists, and yes, immigrants, who have been coopted into the grand Jewish vision of destroying all national/ethnic sovereignty and homogenous states. When the day comes that people CAN be open and stop worrying about Jewish retaliation, that will be the day you will start to see real change, but it won’t come as long as people are scared to death that they will be painted in a certain fashion by their enemies. After all, all their power is only psychological, the Jews are not invincible overlords who cannot be defeated, if that were the case, then why bother? – they could be crushed tomorrow once we break through this collective neurolinguistic programming, so I say, why help them by reinforcing their own control mechanism? And this is what is happening over there.
I didn’t accuse you or TUT of being anti-NS, but when it comes to “expression,” how much is too much? They aren’t using the swastika, and they are not marching around in SS uniforms, so that is a moot point. Again, Greece is a European nation that has a history of violent encounters with Islam, so it is going to be part of their identity. In the same way Serbia had as part of its nationalism the year of the battle of Kosovo, yet the West bombed them on behalf of Islamic Albanians, just as they have used the Chechens as a proxy against Russia. None of these matters are simple or can be easily deduced to a blanket statement. One could just as easily say, “anyone who attacks a European nationalist group from maintaining their population are on the side of Jewish multiculturalism,” and this is why so many white nationalists are confused about TUT. I don’t see you guys attacking Muslims when they cry out that the west are “crusaders,” even though Islamic Saudi Arabia sanctioned and encouraged the invasion of Iraq.
I disagree that it will be another half a century – most Americans are so dumbfounded and ignorant, even Jewish propaganda is lost on the most of them, because they are enamored with their iphones and sea of kosher/talmudic entertainment available to them. Also, the U.S. is entering a state of collapse, and typical attitudes can change in a heartbeat. With all that said, I still have the utmost respect for all of you and what you do – I just think the time for being quiet is over. When i was a youth I searched for all kinds of crusader symbols, such as the maltese cross, that looked similar to the iron cross – then one day i said to myself, “why live in fear for of the ignorant and let the Jews spoil my fun,” and I went out and bought a real iron cross replica, and that has been my general attitude all my life.
ed note–Dana, it is wishful thinking. So there are some angry Greeks having street fights with leftists. This is not an indicator that people are ready to embrace AH.
Next–The muslims referring to Europeans as Crusaders–Newsflash–THEY ARE. The Americans, Brits, Germans, Italians, French, etc, etc, etc, are IN MUSLIM LANDS just as they were during the Crusades, killing women and children. Do I really need to explain this to someone as well-educated and intelligent as you?
And last, because it is late and I am going to bed–the WNs ‘being confused’ about TUT–they aren’t. It’s not an issue of them being ‘confused’ but rather them not liking what they hear because it runs counter to their own personal agenda, plain and simple. In large part the various members of this ‘movement’ of WNs are myopic, fixated, hyper-focused and involved in this for personal, emotional reasons, not intellectual ones. In general they conform to the profile of the angry, under-educated, under-employed, un-attached white male who blames everything but himself for his own shortcomings, whether it is financial, monetary, educational or dealing with marital status. Were it something I have only run into 10-20 times I would not make such generalizations, but given the fact I have known and/or worked with some of these types for the last 20 years and have run into hundreds of them I can state that I am on terra firma on this.
My god, they are even accusing David Duke these days of being a ‘white hater’ because of some of the positions he has taken viz a viz the various nationalist movements. If that doesn’t tell you how screwed up they are nothing will.
#38 by Antiochus on 07/30/2013 - 9:34
and between the restaurant in india, the multiple parties in japan, various Hispanic and South American groups (both euro-descended and not); the anti-chinese group in mongolia, and various Middle Eastern/Arabic groups, its more of the non-western/non-white world that is dressing up in Nazi regalia and SS uniforms than white/euro nationalists.
http://kotaku.com/man-opens-nazi-cafe-baffled-that-it-pisses-people-off-947580528?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow
#39 by Ahmed on 07/30/2013 - 9:34
MG–according to Carolyn Yeger you are a muslim? Why didn’t you tell us? Lol.
ed note–No, Ahmed, I am not a Muslim, (not that there is anything wrong with being one) and anyone who knows me knows where I go to church and what religion we practice.
Sadly, Carolyn has gotten caught up in much of the foolishness involving the convicted felon MIke Delaney & co, the result of it being that she peddles garbage which she knows is not true but which she hopes will function as ‘discussion’ in absence of facts. The few exchanges I have had with her over the years revealed to me that she is a woman bordering on hysteria, and despite whatever good research she may have done in the past on historical revisionism now she is succumbing to a form of mental illness made worse by the company she keeps.
The good news is that–other than themselves and a handful of co-whiners–no one pays any attention to this crew and the ‘footprint’ they leave out there needs a microscope to be viewed.
#40 by John T on 07/30/2013 - 9:34
Agreed- Carolyn did some great work in the past but now has become largely irrelevant with the garbage she peddles and the people she peddles it with, this latest being just one case in point. This is purely Jewish tactics, throwing mud against your opponents which you know is not fact based at all but hoping it will stick and in the process galvanizing your support base.
When TUT originally compared the similarities of organized Jewish groups and White Nationalist types, I was put off a little, but now after watching how they operate, I must (sadly) agree with you.
#41 by Tom in Ga on 07/30/2013 - 9:34
MG, must respectfully disagree with you. I do not attribute Yaeger’s behavior to mental illness but rather to one of pure spite. She knows your religious affiliation (Christian) but knows that she is going to gain more ground for her pathetic cause by claiming otherwise, and even when she knows that every word coming out of her mouth in that regard is a bald-faced lie.
What it all really boils down to is selling a product. She, Anglin, Delaney and the rest of the gang she runs with are trying to market an inferior product that has earned a negative reputation for itself and therefore does not sell well, and rather than improve their product, what they instead try to do is to ruin the reputation of their competitors by spreading around lies, no different than some greasy spoon joint claiming that their main competitor next door puts horse meat in their hamburger, knowing that it is a lie.
This one fact alone–that Yaeger would lie through her teeth about you being a Muslim when she knows in fact you are not is proof enough that nothing she says can be believed.
#42 by Hektor on 07/30/2013 - 9:34
Delaney and Anglin are known liars and criminals. The fact that Yager has gotten so cozy with them and now employs their methods tells me there is something to the old saying about lying with dogs and waking with fleas.
#43 by whitegenocide on 07/30/2013 - 9:34
I didn’t see anything related to “Nazi’s”. You’re just using that convenient word because you’re too damned LAZY to argue any valid points.
ed note–
“We (Golden Dawn) are the faithful soldiers of the National Socialist idea and nothing else” and “[…] WE EXIST, and continue the battle, the battle for the final victory of our race…1987, 42 years later, with our thought and soul given to the last great battle, with our thought and soul given to the black and red banners, with our thought and soul given to the memory of our great Leader, we raise our right hand up, we salute the Sun and with courage, that is compelled by our military honor and our National Socialist duty we shout full of passion, faith to the future and our visions: HEIL HITLER!–Nikolaos Michaloliakos, President of Golden Dawn interviewed in the online Greek Magazine iefimerida.gr
Took me all of 30 seconds to find this. Who is the lazy one here?
#44 by andrewanglin1 on 08/09/2013 - 9:34
andre anglin seen with under age jail bait girl friend http://archive.org/details/AndrewandreAnglinTotalfascism.comWithJailBaitGirl
#45 by Brenda on 08/20/2013 - 9:34
There movement is brave and amazing! It is apparent they are the good guys and the Zionists are the evil lowlife scum! Can you ever imagine Zionist helping starving people ? Zionist only steel and they need to stop spewing their hate at this party of Greek nationalist! Golden Dawn is my hero in the fight against the world wide criminal Zionist!
#46 by dennis on 08/24/2013 - 9:34
MARK GLENN! WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN YOUR HISTORY.ALEXANDER THE GREAT AND THE REST OF THE GREEKS DIDNOT ATTACK THE TURKS. TURKS WHO ARE A MONGOLIAN RACE STARTED INVADING AND MOVING INTO WHAT IS NOW KNOWN AS MODERN TURKEY AROUND 400 A.D.THAT’S 700 YEARS AFTER ALEXANDER THE GREAT. ORIGINALLY WELL OVER HALF THE PRESENT STATE OF TURKEY WAS GREATER GREECE.THE GREEKS FOUNDED CITIES IN THE AREA WHICH ARE STILL PRESENT TODAY. DURING THE TIME OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT A LARGE PORTION OF GREATER GREECE WAS PART OF THE PERSIAN EMPIRE. AS YOU KNOW THE PERSIAN EMPIRE WAS A JEW CONTROLLED EMPIRE READ THE BOOK OF ESTHER..THIS EMPIRE ALSO ENCOMPASSED WELL OVER 100 STATES.ALEXANDER SET OUT TO LIBERATE GREECE FROM THE PERSIANS AND TO END THE THREAT OF GREECE BEING INVADED BY PERSIA EVER AGAIN.ALL THE OTHER 100 AND SO NATIONS ALSO CONSIDERED THE GREEKS AS LIBERATORS FROM THE JEW CONTROLLED PERSIAN EMPIRE. MARK THE DUMMY GLENN AS USUAL YOUR HISTORIC KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE GREEKS IS COMING FROM JEWISH SOURCES.
ed note–Dennis the Menace, I wish you would make up your mind, are you coming or going?
Below is a link to a map of Alexander’s Empire, which included not only Turkey, but as well Afghanistan and Pakistan, whose people today are ‘invading’ the ‘Holy Lands’ of white people.
You are the one with his head up his ass Dennis, a typical empty-headed WN who thinks his own history is spotless and without blame and that all evils that befall ‘his people’ are the result of evil outside forces rather than them simply being the case of cause and effect resulting from things he or his ancestors did in times past.
Things were much better around here when you weren’t around, so please do the rest of us thinking members of the human race a favor and piss off somewhere.