You know things are really screwed up in the movement when Glen Beck competantly debunks conspiracy theories


  1. #1 by NLG on 12/22/2013 - 7:32 pm

    Because the word “truther” gets associated with S.H., boom, that’s how it starts. All someone has to do is call you a “truther” and immediately you’re silenced, blocked from all serious discourse, because of it, even if you believe the Sandy Hook “truthers” are wackjobs. Don’t believe in the Federal Reserve? Think JFK was assassinated by a conspiracy? Truther! The CIA calls this a “captured program,” when they rot it from the inside out.

  2. #2 by Dante Ardenz on 12/22/2013 - 7:37 pm

    Glenn Beck. “Conspiracy Theorist” approved by the Jews is a 60 million dollar fraud. The USA is a nation of fools. The so called ‘Rigfht-Wing’in the country is up there with the media,because it has the Kosher Seal Of approval. Glenn Beck, Alex Jones,Jim Marrs (The cow boy hat Orthodox Jew) Henry Maakkow,(“Putin is part of NWO,Hitler was Rothchild Jew”) and the creep;Jesse Ventura,are all FRAUDS. ALL ON THE ISREALI LOBBY PAYROLL!

    ed note–, that’s right, but now, whatever doubts may have existed in the minds of Americans who have now reached the threshold of wanting to know more, these doubts about Glen Beck have been removed and now these people are having doubts about us.

  3. #3 by James in Pa on 12/22/2013 - 7:38 pm

    CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU, ALL YOU IDIOTS IN THE ‘SANDY HOOK TRUTHER MOVEMENT’, FOR DESTROYING WHAT WAS A CREDIBLE 911 TRUTH MOVEMENT THAT STOOD THE CHANCE OF ACTUALLY WAKING AMERICA UP. YOU PEOPLE ARE WORSE THAN OUR ENEMIES.

  4. #4 by tsisageya on 12/22/2013 - 7:49 pm

    I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Glenn Beck does what Glenn Beck always does: spout a bunch of hot air that debunks nothing and only serves to promote his own corporate-owned agenda. What else is new. He’s like Alex Jones. Wouldn’t know a fact if it came up and kissed him on the lips. Competent? What the heck are you talking about?

    ed note–with the help of his Zionist handlers who are out to discredit the 911 truth movement, Glen Beck COMPETENTLY picked apart and debunked every microbe of bullshit that the sandy hookers have peddled now for a year and in the process, made EVERY GODDAMNED THING WE SAY about 911, USS LIBERTY, JFK, the Federal Reserve and everything else look like TOTAL BULLSHIT to the average American.

  5. #5 by tsisageya on 12/22/2013 - 8:08 pm

    I disagree. It’s all part and parcel of the same exact thing—media complicity in corporate/government psyops to manipulate the citizenry into going along with the program, whatever that may be at the time. Sandy Hook truth, Boston Bombing truth, etc. are the truths that caused me to doubt everything and go BACK to 911 to look at it with new eyes toward bullshit and media complicity. What a paradigm shift. I had about given up since there was so much to digest (from controlled opposition, as well) that I didn’t think I could ever get to the bottom of it. Now, I’m much more laser focused. Also, though, anyone that listens to Glenn Beck and his Vicks-produced tears is beyond knowing truth or anything else for that matter.

    ed note–you disagree…

    Well, here is a news flash for you–a hundred million people watch/listen to him. Whatever doubts some of them may have had about what he says and his reasons for saying them, those doubts have now been removed, and those of us who spend an appalling amount of time trying to convince the masses that our side is right and that the Glen Becks of the world are wrong now look like a bunch of idiots, and we can thank the nutters in the SH/Boston neighborhood for doing it.

  6. #6 by tsisageya on 12/22/2013 - 8:13 pm

    Plus, I really don’t think he debunked anything, competently, or otherwise. All I heard from him was blah blah blah. He didn’t delve into the truth of it at all.

    ed note–everything he said, from A to Z was ‘delving’ into the facts and using those facts to debunk the ‘theories’ espoused by people like you. What freaking planet on you on?

  7. #7 by tsisageya on 12/22/2013 - 8:18 pm

    Oh, I see. You’re full of crap too. I myself am on planet Earth. You?

    Rather than trade insults with you, I’ll just delete you from my orbit. See ya, wouldn’t wanna be ya.

    ed note–my thoughts EXACTLY.

  8. #8 by John Edward Kendrick on 12/22/2013 - 8:21 pm

    Thumbs down exceed thumbs up on the Glenn Beck ‘debunk’ by a 10 to 1 margin.

    We have a public to awaken, so let’s keep focused upon 911, USS Liberty, JFK, Federal Reserve, Chemtrails, HAARP, MK ULTRA, CIA.

    We have work to do. Look at my comments on the Beck video.

    ed note–Ed, the video was made by a Sandy Hook ‘truther’, which is why there are more thumbs down.

    And there is no ‘focusing’ on 911, USS Liberty, JFK, Federal Reserve, Chemtrails, HAARP, MK ULTRA, CIA, because now when we bring these things up for discussion to the uninitiated, the person we are trying to woo in our direction remembers Glen Beck, Anderson Cooper et al doing programs exposing the nuttiness of the Hookers.

    As maddening as it has been dealing with the SH nutters, it is almost as maddening trying to make people understand what a sum loss we have suffered to our credibility in the last year. It’s the last play of the last quarter, we are 100 points down and yet we have people saying ‘IT AIN’T OVER YET…WE CAN STILL SNATCH VICTORY FROM THE JAWS OF THIS DEFEAT’

    Beam me up Scotty

  9. #9 by rehmat1 on 12/22/2013 - 9:00 pm

    Glenn Beck is a notorious Islamophobe. He is one of many pro-Israel Christian hit men. However, he does make some statements which irk Jewish Lobby. For example, recently, Israel-Firster Glenn Beck held up a sword that belonged to Gen. Forrest while David Barton claimed was used at Fort Pillow to skin Black Union soldiers alive.

    http://rehmat1.com/2013/12/18/us-school-named-after-kkk-founder/

  10. #10 by The Other Wild Bill on 12/22/2013 - 9:03 pm

    TUT, based on some of the comments I have read in this and other postings about SH, it would appear that those who are friendly to the ‘hoax’ thesis think that TUT does not question the official narrative. Maybe you should explain.

    ed note–everything we do here, all 12,000 articles that have appeared on this site, as well as the hundreds (thousands?) of hours of radio and tv interviews that have been done are 100% dedicated to questioning the ‘official narrative’, as long as there is reason to question it.

    Where we draw the line however is between responsible and irresponsible ‘questioning’, and for the simple reason that we understand that this is not an academic exercise, but rather a fight between life and death where there is no ‘2nd place’.

    That being the case, we understand that it is a tactic our enemy uses, whereby our instincts and proclivities viz a viz ‘questioning the narrative’ can actually be used against us, in this case, making the movement as a whole look like a bunch of nutters, which they aptly succeeded in doing, so that nothing we say can/will be believed by that great sleeping giant out there we are trying to wake up, and THIS was the biggest conspiracy of all with regards to SH–conning large numbers of people in the 911 Truth movement to adopt and publicly espouse off the wall theories about the event so that everything else we touch–911, USS LIBERTY, PNAC, etc–becomes radioactive and something no one will touch with a 10-foot pole.

  11. #11 by SHAFAR.NULLIFIDIAN on 12/22/2013 - 10:19 pm

    Beck is well aware of who puts the cream cheese and lox on his bagel.

  12. #12 by apollonian on 12/22/2013 - 10:52 pm

    Just for the record, Glenn, why don’t u clarify: are u saying Sandy Hook “massacre” took place–in what way?–is there some definitive account u can cite? (Ho ho ho–I doubt it.) I wonder if u can even give a citation–but if u can, don’t u think u ought to do this?

    ed note–Yes, and in addition to this, I also believe the following–

    –911 happened and people died
    –JFK was assassinated
    –RFK was assassinated
    –Oklahoma City took place, and people died
    –Anthrax tainted letters were sent through the US mail service and people died

    As well as a hell of a lot of other things…

    For the record, I also believe that there are 50 states in the US. I also believe–as of the time of this writing–that it is Sunday, December 22 2013.

    And yes, I got all this information from ‘official sources’ that you say lie about everything.

    We eagerly await your next posting after you have dug the magic lint out of your belly button and asked it to provide you with even more clairvoyant wisdom.

  13. #13 by bigcree1 on 12/22/2013 - 11:01 pm

    It’s truly frustrating to see this mouthpiece get to people who we really need. Thanks to the idiots who Sandy Hooked us all to death. Thanks for nothing, you fools!

  14. #14 by tsisageya on 12/22/2013 - 11:45 pm

    Yeah. I know that propaganda is really not a thing. We’re really not propagandized up our back sides. The Ugly Truth is the truth of all things and not at all controlled opposition. Yeah. I’m sure that’s true.

    ed note–the last communique we all received from you was that you were ‘outta here’, and now you’re back? So which is it?

    You forgot the other possibility in all this–which is that those of us who did not take the bait offered in the aftermath of Sandy Hook were/are the ones proven correct and that you and the others who bet on this losing horse known as ‘HOAX’ and who lost your asses in the process REALLY DID lose, that it was not a fixed race or s sham or anything like that.

    Of course, the other possibility here is that YOU are the \controlled opposition’ here and actually part of the conspiracy in promoting the SH nuttiness, which only helps ONE entity in all of this, which is the JWO and powers that be.

    Yeah, I’d be willing to bet a few $ on that as a possibility.

  15. #15 by tsisageya on 12/22/2013 - 11:46 pm

    Can you hear the sarcasm? Yes, goodbye.

  16. #16 by tsisageya on 12/22/2013 - 11:48 pm

    You’re full of shit with your edit notes. FULL OF SHIT. Dusting off my feet now.

    ed note–oh, you’re back. AGAIN.

    Really stinks holding a handful of tickets on a race where you bet the ranch and lost it all, isn’t it? I would feel sorry for people like you were it not for the fact that your stupidity did not just cost you personally, but all of us.

    If I were a betting man, I would wager that this will NOT be your last post, despite you saying otherwise. Just a hunch…

  17. #17 by annebeck58 on 12/23/2013 - 12:06 am

    Though it doesn’t happen much, in my life, I have to agree with Glenn Beck.
    This whole bunch of garbage about the trajedy of Sandy Hook (not happenening, not as portrayed, blah blah blah) is terrible. I wish these idiots who go off about it not having happened and actors and all of the other crap would just zip it. Or, I wish they would get OFFLINE, because it is them who destroy any part of the TRUTH movement, via their own lies.

    Thanks for posting this, Mark. I almost didn’t watch (as I generally cannot stand Glenn Beck) but am glad I did. He, in my opinion, is right.

  18. #18 by Lindsey on 12/23/2013 - 12:06 am

    Folks, Mark is right, as much as people do not want to admit it. I do not know, satsifactorily, what all happened at Sandy Hook, but I damned well know that people who are using this to convince the stupid- and ignorant-masses of the reality of our world situation are doing nothing but destroying ANY credibility that they have by using this unproven/unsubstantiated incident to try to get them to see the big-picture, and that, I honestly-to-God believe was the intent for so very many of the inconsistencies in the first hours and days of all that was “reported” and “revealed”.

    You people who are falling for this can not possibly not realize that this is a very real possibility–a reverse psy-op–do you? All that Mark, Mr. Michael Piper, and many others, including myself, are saying is to focus on things that are MUCH more substantiated in educating others on what is happening around them, because I am absolutely convinced that this is a reverse psy-op intended to sow discord, confusion, and nonsense, within the REAL truth-movement to completely destroy our credibility in the minds of the vast majority of people who know very little of the things that we know, and after being exposed to the absolute nonsense that is being promoted by certain people about Sandy Hook and that LAX incident–primarily that the dead TSA officer was a God damned training-dummy, which I embarrassingly had originally fallen-for believing–those new people are NEVER, EVER going to believe anything else that they hear coming from “the conspiracy-theorists”.

    How difficult is this to understand?

    Lindsey

  19. #19 by BH on 12/23/2013 - 12:17 am

    MG, when does this end? How many more SH stories are we going to get here?

    ed note–fair enough question Byron.

    As a matter of fact, my good friend and mentor the great MCP and I were discussing this the other day. We were in agreement that SH is NOT over in the sense that every God dmaned time something happens, the Hookers–just as they did with the recent shooting in Colorado–are going to start their BS all over again saying it ‘did not happen.’

    So the underlying problem that caused SH in the first place–meaning non-discerning, feeble-minded individuals who are SO addicted to conspiracy theories that they will jump at ANYTHING that is offered to them, no matter how F***** up it is in its composition, are going to continue with their nuttiness long after the talk of SH has dwindled to a trickle. This being the case means that in the interests of salvaging what tiny fibers of credibility we have left, a long-term program of anti-biotics must be ingested into this discussion on a regular basis, because, judging just from the comments on this one entry, it is obvious that the sickness is STILL THERE.

  20. #20 by Josh on 12/23/2013 - 12:28 am

    Sadly, MG is right–the Hookers will simply morph into something else and will continue to dog us on every thing we try to do. They have to be constantly exposed, ridiculed, and we need to establish that we have nothing in common with them whatsoever.

  21. #21 by John Edward Kendrick on 12/23/2013 - 12:41 am

    More Glenn Beck: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3LNdivpPpU Beck convicts himself of being a shill for The Big Lie era at 40:54 into this video about Khazarian Jews.

    Put your comments on the Beck YouTube video. Vote the video “thumbs down”.

    Regroup. We’re angry–yet, taking that anger out on fellow activists is akin to carrying water for Glenn Beck.

    ed note–Ed, you are missing the point here–EVERYONE who reads this website knows Beck is a shill. EVERYONE. He will lie about 911, USS LIBERTY, JFK, Israel, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

    And what just took place with regards to his SH video is that he has convinced everyone who MIGHT have had questions about his honesty that he is believable. In fact, the powers that be no doubt DELIBERATELY chose him for this mission because painting the Sandy Hookers as cranks and crackpots was a SLAM DUNK in shoring up his credibility. Now, for years on end, when he ridicules 911 truth, USS LIBERTY, Israel, etc, the sheep will hear it, nod their heads and not ask any more questions.

    And finally, those who wrecked the credibility of the 911 truth movement with their SHBS, (and let’s not entertain any notions that they were not being warned that what they were doing was a disaster in the making, because yours truly, MCP and a few others endured a DELUGE of criticism for what we were doing) are not ‘fellow activists’. They do more damage than the enemy itself, no different than a fellow soldier in your platoon who shoots you in the back on the battlefield.

  22. #22 by Anna on 12/23/2013 - 1:30 am

    I pride myself on being open minded and easy going in my approach, but must concur with MG here–these people who make an already almost-impossible job of waking up others all the more difficult are not on our side. While we throw buckets of water on the fire, they are throwing gasoline and in that regard they are as bad as the enemy, or worst.

  23. #23 by NLG on 12/23/2013 - 1:58 am

    Sandy Hooksterism isn’t the problem; it’s a symptom of a problem. We have to admit the reality that we’re dealing with people who are playing chess, not checkers, and for ages have been adept at subterfuge. But once you understand the pattern, it becomes plain as day. This is a war on perception. Your enemy is looking for every opportunity to get you to react predictably so he can use your reaction against you. Once the “hoax seed” was planted, it grew and grew into something that could be used against the wakers. Always ask yourself. Is what I am doing a true action or a reaction? It is one of the hardest things a person can learn how to do. You always have to be vigilant mentally. Always. The enemy is confounded by a true action, because it puts THEM in a state of reaction.

  24. #24 by William Crain on 12/23/2013 - 2:12 am

    One can only hope that Glenn has an Epiphany ~ sees the light, renounces god and capitalism turns his wealth over to the United Way 🙂 better still give it all to Palestinian relief agencies.
    i don’t think that the once in a lifetime correct view for GB is going to marginalize our awareness as a whole, as an entity, who advocate shinning the light on everything ..

  25. #25 by persnipoles on 12/23/2013 - 2:14 am

    Give a slime-mold something to feel better-than and it thinks it’s a butterfly. Such is the relation, respectively, of GWoT-Sucker to Sandy-Hooker. Don’t get me wrong, there are actually slime molds lower than GWoT-Suckers … the one called Caca de Luna in particular… and some of the bacillus are pretty low –even comparatively… So don’t try calling me “Anti” GWoT-Sucking-Trash… I’m just saying that by ‘Sandy-Hooker’ might just as well be read: ‘GWoT-Sucker that actually suffers for his suckerage.’

    ~”accuse someone of murder and you’d better be reeeeeaally sure.” Oh, right! Like he’s speaking from the pulpit of high standards there! There is absolutely a game of just who gets away with baseless ‘accusations!’ (nice to hear that press is actually catching up with Kerry’s lies on Ghouta; it was never a given that it would).

  26. #26 by bigcree1 on 12/23/2013 - 3:16 am

    Wise words NLG! Learning to spot their tricks and using them against them as to not be ‘played’. Indeed!

  27. #27 by michael mazur on 12/23/2013 - 1:25 pm

    Am not asking for the autopsy reports on the kids or the women staff members killed in the school, but am asking for the unredacted autopsy reports on Nancy Lanza and Adam Lanza.

    Also, a photo of Dawn Hochsprung’s headstone or niche. She was the principal.

  28. #28 by Tony on 12/23/2013 - 3:55 pm

    “They” have succeeded in sabotaging all of our collective efforts, no matter how big or small, over the last decade or so, all because of the Sandy hoaxers.
    “They” have successfully poisoned our well.
    I find this SH-hoax BS, NO different than “DR K and his “no planes were involved in anything” on 911.
    Here is an example;
    Before SH, you could strike up a conversation like; “You know, there were arrests of Israelis made within hours after 911….”
    “Really, I had no idea, I think I will check into that”.

    After the SH hoax dis-info, you can attempt a conversation like; “You know, there were arrests of Israelis made within hours after 911….”
    “IDIOT!!, you are one of them “”truthers””, aren’t you? get the hell out of my face, whack-job!”

    The sad part is, the word “truther” NOW has a new meaning, thanks to the SH hoaxers.
    It really reminds me of what the Liberals had to do when their word “Liberal”. It was so tainted, that they changed it to “Progressive”.
    Another example; Global warming has now been changed to “Climate Change”.

    Funny, how the Jews and Zionists NEVER have to change their name, eh?

  29. #29 by John Edward Kendrick on 12/23/2013 - 4:00 pm

    And I suppose the SH deniers are also holocaust deniers and blame Jews for Sandy Hook.

    Michael Mazur: We can sink our teeth into several other subjects quite deeply and effectively. Today, the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 is a feature on National Public Radio (mostly staffed by Jews). “Everybody” knows ‘End the Fed’ and ‘the Fed is a group of privately held banks which have the concession to loan ‘our’ currency to us at interest’.

    How about focusing upon the subjects which the sheeple have some possibility of looking at and awakening to. Sandy Hook denial is a losing subject–even though I recognize there are discrepancies and shills like Glenn Beck defend the official narratives.

    Either you are being played, Michael Mazur, or you are a player. Which is it? If you’re being played, you apparently don’t get it. If you are a player, you won’t admit to this.

  30. #30 by NLG on 12/23/2013 - 5:37 pm

    @ Michael mazur

    Any adult, if he wanted to invest himself, can find out such info. for himself. Just whom are you asking, anyway? File a request with the district coroner. This is the problem. You automagically assume info. is being hidden from your purvey, the public record, reality, etc. etc., etc. Stop being a dipshit. It’s one thing to be born a dipshit, quite another to acquire dipshitness, to continue willfully in your dipshitness and then have the audacity to demand others cure you of it. Like it’s my job to teach you how to tie your shoelaces and use a knife and a fork. My apologies for my harshness, but, seriously, WTF??? You’d make Job want to curse you and slit his own throat with a potsherd. Personally, I think you’re just a troll having a laugh.

  31. #31 by michael mazur on 12/23/2013 - 9:53 pm

    There are two photos of the Dawn Hochsprung headstone in the Daily Mail, the context being the marriage of her daughter who in her wedding dress is leaning forward in one of them to embrace the headstone.

    I accept it as proof that Sandy Hook was real and all those kids and adults were killed on 14 December 2012.

    This means that we don’t need to additionally ask for the autopsy reports on Nancy Lanza and Adam Lanza which would confirm that they also were killed on that day.

    Would that JEK & NLG had stayed on topic rather than go shrill on me, as both of you could simply have pointed out that there are photos of the headstone on public record.

    The simple search of ‘Dawn Hochsprung headstone’, then click ‘image’ brings it up.

    The only reason that it is on the public record is that the occasion was her daughter getting married, the day not being complete without the daughter paying tribute to the memory of her mother.

  32. #32 by Steve on 12/24/2013 - 4:34 am

    “Gatekeeping 101” – sad really. Probably catches the vast majority of early questioners with stuff like this.

  33. #33 by michael mazur on 12/24/2013 - 6:07 am

    I look again at the same DM article – this is the one from July, and to my surprise, of the two headstone photos, there is now only the headstone on its desolate own, the one with the daughter embracing it is gone !

    Panicked somebody.

    No matter, the nydailynews has one of the daughter kissing the crest of the stone.

    I’ll check tomorrow.

  34. #34 by kittie kittie on 12/24/2013 - 9:52 am

    I just can’t/won’t tie up my limited resources for 17 minutes of Glenn Beck .

  35. #35 by TS on 12/24/2013 - 4:27 pm

    Mr Glenn,
    There is Documented PROOF that ‘Drill’s ie Shootings in schools have been scheduled.

    Iowa terror drill portrays immigration foes as killers
    Posted on March 24, 2011

    Threats cause Iowa community to cancel controversial anti-terror training.
    Plans for an anti-terror drill on Saturday in western Iowa that would have involved fictional school shootings by white supremacists have been canceled because of threats received by the Treynor public schools, Pottawattamie County officials said today.

    “During the last 24 hours, the Treynor school system has received threats to their employees and buildings due to the planned “active shooter” exercise, ” county officials said in a statement. “After consultation with the Treynor School District and the Pottawattamie County Sheriff’s Office, we have jointly decided to cancel the exercise due to these threats which we must consider viable. The Pottawattamie County Sheriff’s Department is now actively investigating the threats.”

    ed note–yes, I know. When I was in the NG 20 years ago in a MP unit, we drilled almost EVERY MONTH for all sorts of scenarios, including a gunman entering a military facility and opening fire. And because we were MP (Military Police) several times a year we would drill with local police departments on the tactical situation dealing with a gunman or gunmen entering a facility–including schools, libraries, shopping malls, etc–and the proper procedures in taking him down and securing the building.

    I also know, based upon many personal discussions I have had with members of LE that they drill for these scenarios CONSTANTLY. At any given time and on any given day there isn’t a major city in America where a drill of this type is not taking place, due to the fact that shootings such as Columbine, Sandy Hook, etc, have become so prevalent, so please don’t use this as ‘proof’ that these shootings were staged.

    Please, for the sake of our own existence, get your bearings and start thinking logically. Remember, there is no ‘2nd place’ in this contest.

  36. #36 by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1yfJDCMU64 on 12/25/2013 - 12:40 am

    Everyone is New To Town!!

    You know things are really screwed up in the movement when you listen to Glen Beck debunking “conspiracy theories”

    MG, TUT is a great site but – in this case – you’re dead wrong. Please don’t answer this comment until you have watched Sofia Smallstorm’s video:

    Unraveling SH in 2, 3, 4,and 5 dimensions

    Thank you

    ed note–lol…and just who is ‘Sofia Smallstorm’? What do we know of her, up until her recent ‘sudden appearance’ on the scene here with her video regarding SH?

    Please people…this isn’t a game and there is no 2nd place…

  37. #37 by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1yfJDCMU64 on 12/25/2013 - 2:29 am

    lol…and just who is ‘Sofia Smallstorm’?

    Ever heard of 911 mysteries….etc….?

  38. #38 by annebeck58 on 12/25/2013 - 6:48 am

    Do do do doooo..
    Here we are again, in the twilight-zpne.

    Nothing said by this Sona Smallstrom makes ANY sense. I mean; so what? I grew up in Ct, and I spent plenty of time in Newtown, esp the past few years. I have walked past the school more than a few times and I bet I could have gained entry had I wanted to.
    So much about what happened in SH happened the way it was reported. And as happens SO MANY TIMES, initial reporting is wrong and has to be corrected, later on. My sister-in-law died in a terrible MVA during a tornado in CT (yes, she did). First stories about it were completely off-track. Next few days, the truth began to unfold. It happens all the time in all parts of this country.

    Suspiscion does NOT add up to fact(s) in any way or shape.
    And yes, the Hookers make us ALL look a bit over the limit; insane.

  39. #39 by Johanna on 12/25/2013 - 3:41 pm

    how does someone watch this and not conclude that all truthers are nuts?

    TUT was right from the beginning in warning everyone that this was a trap and I only wish that more had paid attention.

  40. #40 by John Edward Kendrick on 12/25/2013 - 7:04 pm

    How? Use logic and discernment. Don’t conclude that the actions of a few are representative of the whole.

    How do “truthers” avoid becoming resigned to a fate of being painted as nuts? Redouble efforts to expose what we know about 9-11, JFK, USS Liberty, WMD, chemtrails, Israeli nuclear arsenal, false flags attacks as a tool of deception…in a way that involves strategic thinking as to how that which we present will be received/heard.

    Draw attention to the obvious and the provable. Focus on the subjects that Anderson Cooper and Glenn Beck cannot directly engage without equating the questioning to “holocaust denial”, “anti-semitism” and other trap issues.

    Sure, there are similarities in Sandy Hook–yet, it is a clear trap to fall into to think that you can persuade masses of people with your Sandy Hook “conspiracy theory”.

    Avoid the traps. Speak about the obvious.

  41. #41 by Bill in Ohio on 12/25/2013 - 7:22 pm

    lol. All of John Edward Kendrick’s comments would be perfectly reasonable were it not for the fact that these nuts were warned a year ago from a few sane voices such as Mike Piper and MG that they were walking into a trap and yet, rather than heeding this warning, instead poured their fury into ignoring it and causing as much damage as possible to all our efforts over the years.

    Mr. Kendrick’s comments are tantamount to someone fixing the lock on the door after the thieves have already broken in and stolen everything–a day late and a dollar short.

    As much as I hate to look on the dark side of things, nevertheless I cannot but conclude that SH will be an albatross around the neck of the 911 truth movement for a long, long time.

  42. #42 by Adam Lanza was the shooter on 12/25/2013 - 7:50 pm

    the ugly truth in this case is indeed ugly–the movement was Sandy Hooked from within and too many people fell for it.

  43. #43 by John Edward Kendrick on 12/25/2013 - 8:40 pm

    A broken lock still needs fixing–yet, Bill in Ohio would have us throw up our hands in resignation and not fix the lock. You can stop here, Bill, and keep writing the truth movement’s epitaph, or redouble your efforts to expose what we know to be the Achilles heel of the devils.

    I’m not laughing (no “lol” from me) and object strongly to sweeping my perfectly reasonable strategies under the rug. Learn from our mistakes. The “broken lock” still needs fixing–yet, Bill in Ohio would have us throw up our hands in resignation and not fix the lock?

    Ce infighting and get back to the work at hand. Those with ears to hear and eyes to see can see the failings of leading with SH theories.

    Cease infighting and get back to the work at hand.

  44. #44 by michael mazur on 12/26/2013 - 1:22 am

    Sofia Smallstorm, 44 secs before the end, has this on the screen, “The 6th Dimension, all that could happen. What can YOU create ?”.

    What is she doing there if not inviting people to be even more imaginative than she herself was during that 93minutes lecture on the insubstantive and ethereal dimensions she attributes to SH ?

    Nowhere in that long expanse of time did she posit the one grave question, being that, as she contends, since the SH massacre could be imagined in any or several dimensions, then the gravestones – or cremation niches, marking the final resting place of each of the 27 people who it was reported had died in this massacre, are therefore also imaginary in any or several dimensions.

    As we now know, there is that July photo in the UK Daily Mail of the headstone for Dawn Hochsprung – SH Principal.

    The Sofia Smallstorm vid was released early last month, but the photo of the Principal’s final resting place was already three months on the public record. No excuses for Sofia Smallstorm.

    Sofia Smallstorm dwells much on picking flaws in the photo shopping of some of the kids onto existing family photos – where there are two kids there are now three, but had not the time to say that the details on the headstone for Dawn Hochsprung had also been photoshopped, let alone deny its existence altogether.

  45. #45 by Bill in Ohio on 12/26/2013 - 4:38 am

    No one is talking about throwing up their hands and walking away. What is taking place here is damage assessment and preventive maintenance. Much of the SH’s ‘success’ in undercutting our credibility was due to large numbers of people in this movement giving them airtime they should not have been given so that this thing took on a life of its own instead of it being nipped in the bud.

    And MG is right–they will be back everytime something happens, and the only way we are going to prevent a repeat of what they did in the aftermath of SH is by revealing them as frauds and nutcases NOW, and that means discussing it in forums such as these so that no one falls for their tricks again.

    And lastly, ‘infighting’ is what takes place among people who are on the same team. Those who peddle a bunch of nonsense that makes our work 100x harder than need be are NOT on our team.

  46. #46 by Ingrid B on 12/26/2013 - 6:28 pm

    I don`t know who this character is, but I think he is hammering the nails into his own coffin.. ignore them long enough, and the anti- christ usually do..

  47. #47 by annebeck58 on 12/27/2013 - 12:42 am

    Which character, Ingrid?
    Glenn Beck? If him, he is a past Faux-news freak. If you mean someone who’s been posting here in his own confused manner, then I agree.
    Beck is right, in my opinion, but ONLY on this hooker-mess.

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