Like a kid in a candy store, IDF salivates over incoming F-35 jets from the US


As PM announces acquisition of 17 additional planes, senior officer gushes at new, exorbitantly expensive stealth aircraft, due to arrive next month

ed note–keep in mind, those jets over which the dogs of the IDF are ‘salivating’ are not there for Israel’s ‘defense’. They are there for one reason and one reason only–to murder, terrorize, and displace the people living in those lands lying between the Nile and Euphrates rivers which the Jews claim to be theirs by divine right, to wit–

‘On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abraham, saying “To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river Euphrates”…–Genesis, 15:18

‘And God spoke unto us saying, ‘Go to the hill-country and all the places nigh thereunto… in the Arabah, the hill-country and in the Lowland… in the South and by the sea-shore, the land of the Canaanites, and Lebanon, as far as the great river, the river Euphrates…Go in therefore and possess the land which the Lord swore unto your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, unto them and to their seed after them…’–Deuteronomy 1:6–8

‘Every place whereon the sole of your foot shall tread shall be yours, from the wilderness, and Lebanon, from the river Euphrates, even unto the hinder sea shall be your border…’–Deuteronomy 11:24

‘…From the wilderness, and this Lebanon, even unto the great river, the Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the Great Sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your border…’–Joshua 1:4

Times of Israel

The message that Israel’s government had opted to purchase 17 additional F-35 fighter jets from the US on Sunday night came in just as a senior Israeli Air Force officer was in the midst of explaining to reporters what this new stealth aircraft could do and what it would mean for Israel’s defense.

Coincidence? Probably, but not much of one.

For at least the next few weeks, if not the next few years, the Israeli military and Defense Ministry will undoubtedly be trumpeting the virtues of the technological wonder that is the F-35 Lightning II, known in Hebrew as the “Adir,” meaning mighty or great.

“Today Israel is surrounded by unprecedented military threats,” Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman said during an unveiling ceremony for the plane in June.

“It is clear and obvious to us, and to the entire region, that the new F-35 — the Adir — will create real deterrence and enhance our capabilities for a long time,” Liberman said.

On December 12, the first two of these aircraft will touch down on Israeli asphalt, at which point they will stop being the possession of the US government and officially become rechush tzahal — IDF property.

It will be the most expensive aircraft in the Israeli military’s possession, with a price tag equal to that of approximately 2.5 F-16 fighter jets or a fleet of unmanned aerial vehicles.


Military qualitative edge

The now 50 fifth generation stealth aircraft Israel has agreed to purchase are meant to retain the Jewish state’s military qualitative edge, or MQE, at time of both intense conflict, a growing local arms race and the introduction of numerous foreign actors into the region, the senior officer said, speaking about the Middle East in general and Syria in particular.

“Sitting in Tel Aviv, you really feel you’re in the eye of the storm,” the official said, speaking to reporters on condition of anonymity.

Pointing to a map, the air force official noted the anti-aircraft systems and fighter jets purchased or in the process of being purchased in nearby countries:

Syria possesses the Russian-made SA-17 and SA-22 missile defense batteries and is working to improve its radar systems; Iran this year received the Russian S-300 missile defense system and is looking to purchase Moscow’s Su-30 fighter jet; Saudi Arabia maintains a fleet of Eurofighter jets and an advanced, stealthy variant of the F-15; and Egypt possesses the S-300 system, along with a number of American, French and Russian fighter jets.

(Oddly missing from this rundown was Hezbollah, which is rumored to have acquired some advanced anti-aircraft capabilities, like the SA-17.)

“These guys are putting hundreds of millions of dollars into limiting Western air power — that’s where the F-35 comes in,” the officer said.

With its advanced stealth capabilities, the plane “lets you operate in these kinds of environments,” he said.

Israel will be the first country after the United States to receive the fighter jet. The first two F-35 will arrive next month and the remaining 48 planes will make their way to Israel in the months that follow, he said.

The official wouldn’t say when exactly the entire fleet is meant to arrive, but noted that it took approximately three years for the full shipment of F-15s to reach Israel.

Though Israeli pilots, who have yet to actually fly the aircraft, will begin training on the F-35 “the day after it arrives,” it will be “quite a while before it’s operational,” the senior officer said.

‘We have a detailed plan for what we need to do before they are operational’
The official would not give an estimate on when the F-35 would actually go on missions, but another air force officer told The Times of Israel earlier this year that it would likely take “about a year, maybe a little less.”

The exact time before the F-35 is deployed will depend on how quickly the air force can put it through its paces. “We have a detailed plan for what we need to do before they are operational,” the senior officer said in the Sunday briefing.

Though with previous aircraft, that status has been reached ahead of schedule.

“If I gave you a date, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was actually before then,” the officer said.

The multi-role fighter

One of the main selling points of the F-35 for the Israeli Air Force is its use as “general purpose” platform, an aircraft capable of carrying out a large assortment of missions: dogfights, bombing runs, etc.

Another is its longevity. The F-35 is expected to remain in service for “decades,” with some estimates saying it will be flown until 2070, according to Lockheed-Martin, which produces the aircraft.

The officer, however, put that expiration date even further, saying he expects Israel to use the plane “until the end of the century.”

In time, he said, the aircraft will become the defining characteristic of the IAF.

“We shouldn’t be integrating the F-35 into the air force, the air force should integrate around the F-35,” he said.

‘We’re not in a place where we can use a specific airplane for a specific mission’

Unlike the US, which has separate aircraft for different types of operations — B-2s for bombing, A-10 Warthogs for close-air support, F-16s for air-to-air combat — Israel relies on a comparatively small number of airplanes to carry out all its missions.

For combat aircraft, that means F-15s, F-16s and Apache helicopters. So as one of a small number of aircraft types, though one of its main advantages is its state-of-the-art stealth capabilities, the aircraft will also be used on missions that do not actually require that level of technological advancement — in Gaza, for instance.

“We’re not in a place where we can use a specific airplane for a specific mission,” the officer said.

However, if needed to carry out attacks in locations that do need sophisticated stealth capabilities against advanced anti-aircraft systems like the S-300 — “think of a place,” the officer said, presumably referring to Syria and Iran — the Israeli Air Force believes the F-35 will be able to stand up to the challenge.

“I’m not saying the S-300 will look for the F-35 and see nothing, but we will have a strong and effective tool in our hands,” the officer said.

As the F-35 has yet to see extensive combat, that assessment is based on general understandings of the capabilities of the two systems, rather than real-world experience, he noted.

According to the official, as the S-400, which is currently deployed by the Russian military in Syria, is just a more advanced version of the S-300 system, the F-35 should be able to evade it as well.

“We believe that the same advantage it brings to the S-300, it will bring to other systems,” he said, in reference to a question specifically about the S-400.

However, the F-35 has been far from free of controversy. The plane’s initial development setbacks, its exorbitant price tag — between NIS 377 million ($98 million) and NIS 447 million ($116 million) depending on the exact model, according to Lockheed-Martin — as well as its very nature as a multi-purpose fighter — some have called it a “mutt” — have drawn the ire from critics at home and abroad.

“We always know of the problems. That’s okay, it’s part of the process,” he said.

“There will be criticism of it in the Israeli Air Force as well, but I think we will find our way,” the officer said.

Though the officer recognized the high cost of the aircraft, he said the money saved by preventing potential destruction in Israel made it worthwhile, echoing arguments made about the high cost of Iron Dome missiles, which are used to shoot down inexpensive enemy rockets.

He also acknowledged that in some areas the F-35 does not exceed the capabilities of existing aircraft, like the F-16’s maneuverability, but said its more advanced stealth technology and ability to process information, allows it to strike enemy aircraft and ground defenses “before they see it coming.”

How much of this is the boasting of a military about to receive a new toy and how much is faithful analysis of a new piece of equipment will only be seen when the plane becomes fully operational and goes up against actual enemy defenses.

  1. #1 by PJ London on 11/30/2016 - 9:34

    “There are 419 things that we have yet to decide with the war fighters how we’re going to fix them, whether we’re going to fix them and when we’re going to fix them,” he said. The figure was three times higher a few years ago and “we think the technical debt that we have — the deficiencies that we have — are things that we can handle … within the next two years,” he said.
    The Pentagon’s pricey fifth-generation jets are a lot easier to shoot down than previously believed, warns a US defense expert. “Relatively simple modifications to existing radar and missile technology could sweep the F-22s and F-35s right out of the sky.”
    With the aid of such a ground or ship based guidance system, even an “antiquated” missile such as the S-75 “Dvina” (SA-2 in NATO parlance) could be used to blast stealthy jets right out of the sky. A missile equipped with its own guidance system – for example, an infrared sensor – would be even more dangerous to the fifth-generation US jets
    You mean like this one:
    The 9K333 Verba was originally developed as a replacement for the 9K38 Igla.[2]
    The Verba’s primary new feature is its multispectral optical seeker, using three sensors – ultraviolet, near infrared, and mid-infrared – as opposed to the Igla-S’ two. Cross-checking sensors against one another better discriminates between relevant targets and decoys, and decreases the chance of disruption from countermeasures, including lasers that attempt to blind missiles.
    The mind boggles.

  2. #2 by Marty Caulfield on 11/30/2016 - 9:34

    The Star of David is the symbol of Jesus Christ! God said, not to kill, to the Jewish people!

    ed note–yet another glaring example as to why I/we maintain that there can be no ‘Christian’ solution to the Jewish problem.

    The star of david is NOT the symbol of Jesus Christ. The ‘symbol’ of Jesus Christ, if indeed one exists at all, is the cross, upon which the JEWS consigned Jesus to die for His ‘sins’ of working to undermine their criminal organization and the philosophy that created/animated/directed this organization’s activities, Judaism.

    The ‘god’ of the Jews, Yahweh, whose name Jesus never uttered ONCE, insisting instead to refer to the creator as ‘My Father’, did not tell the Jews not to kill. What they adopted was a code whereby they don’t kill EACH OTHER, while at the same time, killing Gentiles was fine, to wit–

    ‘When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are to possess and casts out the many peoples living there, you shall then slaughter them all and utterly destroy them…You shall save nothing alive that breathes…You shall make no agreements with them nor show them any mercy. You shall destroy their altars, break down their images, cut down their groves and burn their graven images with fire. For you are a holy people unto the LORD thy God and He has chosen you to be a special people above all others upon the face of the earth…’–Book of Deuteronomy

    How such an elementary no-brainer such as this could somehow escape the notice of our ‘Christian’ commentator speaks volumes to the mental incapacitation that has rendered the West intellectually hobbled and powerless against the very enemies which Jesus spent the remainder of His life warning people about.

  3. #3 by Vickie Jacobs on 11/30/2016 - 9:34

    THE STAR OF DAVID NEVER CAME FROM DAVID. IT CAME FROM SOLOMON who had three thousand wives that worshipped the stars. God finally had enough in Jeremiah 3:8 and divorced the whole bunch. Please read the bible it will give anyone insight as to this truth.

  4. #4 by Barno on 12/01/2016 - 9:34

    “They (Jews) will not fight you all except within fortified cities or from behind walls. Their violence among themselves is severe. You think they are together, but their hearts are diverse. That is because they are a people who do not reason.” Surah Al-Hashr (59), Ayah 14, the Holy Qur’an.

  5. #5 by 5 dancing shlomos on 12/01/2016 - 9:34

    should be star of rambam
    the light in satan’s eye
    rambam had 3 toes ea foot
    3 fingers ea hand

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