Organized Jewish interests already kvetching about Trump’s pick for Sec of State


ISRAEL ORTHODOX JEWS

ed note–yeah, it’s getting old for us too, but unfortunately there are some who still aren’t ‘getting it’ and therefore due to the incessant chirping on the part of those who still can’t seem to understand the political math going on here, we are forced to hammer all of this home on a regular, repeated, and unnecessarily-repetitious basis.

When was the last time that a candidate or president-elect was subjected to THIS kind of j-inquisition, and when was the last time such a candidate went ahead with his plans anyway, amidst all the screeching and hollering that was taking place?

Curiously as well, note just what Morton Klein, head of one of the biggest Jewish organizations in the world, had to say about Russia–

‘Trump’s closeness with Russia concerns me as well because Russia has been enormously hostile to Israel’

WHAAAAAAAT??????? BUT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY SOME GENIUSES IN THIS MOVEMENT THAT ‘PUTIN IS A JEW’ AND IS SECRETLY WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES WITH ISRAEL…WE HAVE PICS OF HIM SHAKING HANDS WITH NETANYAHU, FOR YAHWEH’ SAKE!!!!!!’

Sorry to have to resort to such drama folks, but you really have no idea how unnerving it is dealing with the endemic idiocy of some players in all of this and the damage they do to our ability to think clearly and act rationally as a result of their nonsense.

Also, note what the cited Haaretz piece has to say about Trump’s early noises for Sec of State, i.e. Bolton, Giuliani, Romney et al, and how they have ‘extensive ties to Israel and to right wing American Jews and a rich history of contacts with Israeli politicians, most notably Benjamin Netanyahu’.

In other words, it was ALL FOR SHOW, floating their names in the manner in which he did. You don’t pick someone like Tillerson–close with Russia and with no government/public service experience out of thin air. Trump and his people had Tillerson in mind a year ago long before they floated the names of the previously-mentioned rodents.

Note as well–‘Tillerson could also prove to be a moderating force on the nuclear deal with Iran, compared to Flynn and Mattis, who are thought to be hostile.’

In other words, all the ‘NUH-HUH, NUH-HUH, TOLD YA TRUMP WAS JUST GOING TO BE ANOTHER RUBBER STAMP FOR NETANYAHU’ based upon his appointing Mathis and Flynn meant nothing. The 2 aforementioned are going to be dealing with military matters, namely wiping up the mess that the Neocons have created vis a vis ISIS while Tillerson is going to be dealing with foreign relations, most notably those with Russia and Iran.

As we say often he folks, this ain’t checkers, it’s chess.

Mondoweiss

Over the weekend Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson became the leading candidate to become Secretary of State in the incoming Trump administration. Although most attention has been directed towards his close relationship to Vladimir Putin, there are also questions about what his appointment will mean for Israel/Palestine.

So far it seems most pro-Israel commentators are not excited. Similar to his close relationship to Putin, Tillerson has built close relationships with OPEC member countries in his role with Exxon. Some think this doesn’t bode well for Israel.

Jewish Insider gets this from ZOA’s Mort Klein:

“As an oil man, he was obviously very close to many Arab countries, had close relations with them. I am worried that this  may indicate bias against Israel. His closeness with Russia concerns me as well because Russia has been enormously hostile to Israel. So, in his work life, the Arabs and the Russians were key players in his day to day work. That makes me very concerned about whether he will be extremely biased against Israel.”

Chemi Shalev writes in Haaretz that the Israeli government wouldn’t like the pick:

Jerusalem is bound to be somewhat disappointed with Tillerson’s appointment: all the other potential candidates that had been mentioned, including Bolton, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney and others, have extensive ties to Israel and to right wing American Jews and a rich history of contacts with Israeli politicians, most notably Benjamin Netanyahu. Tillerson, it seems, is a blank slate as far as Israel is concerned, with less than favorable credentials: the oil industry traditionally keeps its distance from Israel and from Jews and is far more attentive to the oil-rich Arab world. Tillerson could also prove to be a moderating force on the nuclear deal with Iran, compared to Flynn and Mattis, who are thought to be hostile. He is no fan of sanctions and his industry traditionally tries to steer clear of confrontations and hostilities in the Middle East that could upset the delicate oil market.

In addition, Israel advocates are concerned about Tillerson’s friendship with Brent Scowcroft, the realist foreign policy hand who has long been viewed with disdain by neoconservatives. As we reported four years ago, Bill Kristol celebrated the purge of “old fashioned” Arabists like Scowcroft and James Baker from the Republican Party. In 2012 Kristol told a crowd at B’nai Jeshurun synagogue on the Upper West Side:

‘I mean, the big story in the Republican Party over the last 30 years and I’m personally very happy about this as a Republican is first the eclipsing of I’d say the [George H.W.] Bush [Brent] Scowcroft [James] Baker traditional—it’s unfair to say– hostility to Israel– but lack of closeness and warmth for Israel … I say this as someone who served in the first Bush White House and has high regard for the first president Bush, but it was an Arabist, old fashioned Republican Party, which was certainly very concerned about relations with Arab states that were not friendly with Israel and skeptical about the case for Israel. They have really been eclipsed by the Reagan George W. Bush McCain kind of tradition of a more sympathetic attitude toward Israel, greater support for Israel.’

The other thing that for 20 years now that has been a worry for many of us on the Republican conservative side, was the rise of — the return of the Pat Buchanan/Ron Paul type of hostility to Israel. The good news is that doesn’t have much support in the Republican Party or the presidential field or Congress….”

Is it back with Tillerson? It remains to be seen, but it seems that the Trump administration is already triangulating to retain pro-Israel support.

According to the New York Times, Trump is considering naming John Bolton as deputy secretary of State where he would handle day-to-day management of the department. Bolton, a hardcore neocon activist from the Bush II White House and the American Enterprise Institute, would assuage many Zionist concerns about the incoming administration, though it would animate liberals too: Chris Matthews of MSNBC expressed alarm at the possibility on Friday, and last month when Bolton was notioned for secretary of state he said such a pick would increase the numbers of Americans who are “sad” and those who are “downright scared.”

In 2014, Bolton expressed opposition to Palestinian sovereignty, saying statehood “would inevitably lead to a terror state on the other side of the border with Israel.”

And just over the weekend this is what Bolton told Jewish Insider about his vision for a “three-state solution” for Israel/Palestine, which amazingly doesn’t involve a Palestinian state:

“I think that we can conclude objectively that the pursuit of a two-state solution has failed. Whether you believe that initially it was a viable proposition or not, after 20 plus years or more, in some cases, we just don’t have the circumstances in the region that will permit it. I propose what I call a three-state solution, that’s wildly unpopular as well, giving Gaza to Egypt, dividing the West Bank and returning sovereignty of part of it to Jordan. I’m told that it’s not workable because the Egyptians don’t want Gaza and the Jordanians don’t want part of the West Bank. I’m certainly open to other alternatives as well, but I think you have to look at the objective reality that the two-state solution doesn’t work and therefore some other alternative has to arise and creative minds ought to work on it instead of pursuing the two-state possibility, which is a dead end in my view.”

Bolton is on the advisory board of the diehard Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs. Its CEO, Michael Makovsky, offered the same three-state line last week at a forum on the Upper West Side. “I really think it’s a three state solution.” This is an old neoconservative panacea: transfer Palestinian governance to Jordan. And soon it might be helping to guide the State Department.

  1. #1 by Eva F. on 12/13/2016 - 9:34

    I have to say I admire how D.Trump plays his cards very tactically very strategly. Obvouisly he is much smater than most people thought.

  2. #2 by Davis on 12/13/2016 - 9:34

    I hope all keep in mind that Obama is still President. Who knows what wicked deeds these people will do after Trump secures the Electoral votes. There are possibilities that a false flag could be in play of course blaming Russia. Case in point there were recent reports of Russia’s DRONE submarine capable of being used as a weapon filled with NUKES which in turn could be detonated to create a TSUNAMI off any of our coastal cities. Think NYC. I pray this is not the case.

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a24216/pentagon-confirm-russia-submarine-nuke/

  3. #3 by Kolo on 12/14/2016 - 9:34

    Popular Mechanics?
    LOL
    Please
    Go Back To Sleep

  4. #4 by Davis on 12/14/2016 - 9:34

    Kolo, You picking up my point. Who you think putting out this narrative in order place blame on Russia in such a scenario as the TSUNAMI BOMB off of one of our coast? Think all of the pre 911 signals that were put out.

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