Trump considering spy network to combat ‘deep state’ enemies


ed note–this is more than just slightly-significant. What it underscores–as clearly described in the piece–is that Trump does not have control over his own intelligence agencies. The statement attributed to CIA Director Mike Pompeo that he does not ‘trust the CIA bureaucracy’ indicates that there are operations going on right under his feet by intelligence operatives out to destabilize the Trump presidency that he cannot control and that the only way to counter them is to create a separate ‘agency’ that is given a free hand to do whatever is necessary in rooting these individuals out.

Please remember as well that no such talk–at least in the very frank and forthcoming manner as has occurred here–existed in previous presidencies that truly were controlled by Israel and her deep state operatives in the US intelligence community, and therefore if Trump were ‘owned by the Jews’ as so many ‘experts’ these days claim, there would be no operations taking place to destabilize his presidency and thus no need to create an entirely separate group of spies to counteract it all. 

The Hill

The Trump White House is reportedly considering a proposal for a global, private spy network to counter “’deep state’ enemies” who want to undermine Trump’s presidency, according to a report in The Intercept.

The proposals for the network were reportedly developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince – who is also the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos – as well as retired CIA officer John Maguire and Oliver North, who was heavily involved in the Iran-Contra scandal and was reportedly brought on board to “sell the effort” to the administration.

The spies would be “off the books,” sidestepping official U.S. intelligence agencies and would report directly to CIA Director Mike Pompeo, according to current and former U.S. intelligence officials, the Intercept reported.

A former senior U.S. intelligence official with knowledge of the proposals told the Intercept that Pompeo doesn’t trust the “CIA bureaucracy,” so a global spy network is necessary to collect intelligence that is not shared with the intelligence community.

“Pompeo can’t trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him,” the source told the news outlet. “It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books.”

Trump has brought up the “deep state” repeatedly during his presidency, alleging that there are officials in politics and government departments and agencies who seek to undermine his administration.

The network would reportedly consist of an “army of spies” in countries worldwide, including in North Korea and Iran, both of which are currently “denied areas” for U.S. intelligence.

While sources told The Intercept that Vice President Pence was among those who had been briefed on the plan, a spokesperson for Pence said there was “no record of [Prince] ever having met with or briefed the VP.”

Two former senior intelligence officials told the news outlet that Pompeo has “embraced” the plan and is pressuring the White House to adopt the proposal.

The Intercept also reported that individuals involved with the plans have held secret meetings with potential donors in the Trump Hotel.

A spokesman for the National Security Council told the Intercept that the White House “does not and would not support such a proposal,” and that he could find “no evidence” that the proposals were ever brought to the attention of the White House or the National Security Council, and a CIA spokesperson told the Intercept, “You have been provided wildly inaccurate information by people peddling an agenda.”

Prince and Maguire have denied that they are working together, and Prince has denied involvement in the project at all, but a source told the Intercept, “there is no doubt that Prince and Maguire were working together.”

Another source said that Maguire was concerned about “deep state” operatives within the CIA who joined under Obama and were withholding information from Trump.

“[Maguire] said there were people inside the CIA who joined in the previous eight years, and inside the government, and they were failing to give the president the intelligence he needed,” the source said

  1. #1 by Jesus Disciple aka Awakened2Truth on 12/06/2017 - 9:34

    “..is to create a separate ‘agency’ ….to create an entirely separate group of spies to counteract it all.”

    Only God/Jesus creates, it means “ex-nihlo”, and yet, you “Mark Glen”, claim in utter audacious non-credibility to be for the real Jesus, and yet, you author streams upon streams of digitally typed material that excels in textual hyper-vocabulary sophistry as you do and you don’t even know how how to state “..is to FORM a separate ‘agency’ .. to BRING TOGETHER or SETUP or ASSEMBLE an entirely separate group… ” but you use the word ‘create’ showing you can’t even tell when you blaspheme God/Jesus while claiming you are for Him? Only Jesus ‘creates’, hence Him being the SOLE CREATOR as God Incarnate. Once again, another huge example of the paralyzing self-delusion you are in that you are someone you are not. People use the word ‘create’ these days in a way that is not having God/Jesus as the subject of the word create, prove immensely that they have become so degenerate and so self-deceived ‘intelligent’ that they can’t even tell anymore how to use key words in their proper, accurate etymological usage. Up is down, down is up, good is called evil and evil is called good.. and soon the only Master shall show Himself and many will be who He was referring to in Matthew 7:21-23.

    ed note–once again, the madness of ‘Jesus Disciple’ and anyone else who ‘thinks’ as he does on full display before the entire world.

    Please consider just what it is that has the panties of our deluded ‘JD’ in such a knot–My/our use of the word ‘create’ in the ed notes commentary that preceded this news story. Because I/we chose to use the word ‘create’ instead of some other synonym, this –in his estimation–is PF evidence of blasphemy and demonic possession.

    People–after hearing me reference from time to time the kinds of nutcases with which I am forced to deal on a regular basis–often react with ‘oh, c’mon now, it can’t be THAT bad…Surely you are exaggerating’.

    As you can plainly see from the inane scribblings of ‘Jesus Disciple’ above, surely I am not.

  2. #2 by Dale on 12/06/2017 - 9:34

    MG/TUT, after looking carefully at just what ‘Gee-zus’ Disciple has had to say in the the few times you have allowed him to weigh in with his own brand of overly-religious lunacy, the one thing I have taken away from it is that he NEVER criticizes Judaism, always runs to the defense of the Jewish Torah and spews all the neo-con lies about Islam.

    Am I the only one who sees the obvious here? Gee-Zus Disciple in not a disciple of Jesus Christ at all, but that of Moe-zis, which means he is more than likely a Joo in disquise.

    Ed note–I have considered the very same possibility myself, but (at the moment, pending additional hard evidence to the contrary) reject it in light of the fact that–based upon other things he has left here–he really does seem to be every bit as nuts as his postings suggest.

    Furthermore, on occasions too numerous to recount here, I have run into ‘Chris-chins’ like this in real life, living, breathing, walking addicts of the Judaic poison known as the Torah and who think that the more ‘Jewish’ they are, the better ”Christian’ they are as well, which includes believing heart and soul one of the supporting pillars within this ‘esteemed’ cult known as Judeo-Christianity–a visceral hatred for Islam as evidenced by the regurgitating of all the lies about Mohammed, the Qu’ran, etc that have been injected into the mental bloodstream of those in the west by OJI out to CREATE the ‘clash of civilizations’.

  3. #3 by James on 12/06/2017 - 9:34

    the ed note response to this is I fear correct. I run into these types all the time and they are every bit as crazy as their words make them appear to be, and what’s worse is that they are growing in numbers every day.

  4. #4 by Jesus Disciple aka Awakened2Truth on 12/06/2017 - 9:34

    Mark, you only let certain of my comments through that make you look like you are credible in your claims against me.. it’s the mark of coward and fraud to make the comments you do about me and then not let me refute you.

    ed note–I posted what you wrote–every letter, word, sentence, comma, etc, without revision or alteration, and so you have nobody to blame other than yourself for looking like the nutcase you are.

    Perhaps in a moment of sanity–if indeed you do have those once in a while–you are now realizing just how nuts you appear and are thus having reservations/doubts regrets.

    If this is indeed the case, then it is obvious where the source of the problem lies, and it is not with me, but with the nutter who composed the original comment and decided to press the ‘send’ button on it as a final affirmation.

  5. #5 by MD on 12/06/2017 - 9:34

    To me, this article smells strongly fake. For all kinds of subliminal reasons, like certain ways things are worded, or quoting “sources” left and right; my super-duper advanced and sensitive neural network BS detector is being triggered. More objectively: If Trump or anybody else really was going to set up some ultra double black top secret uber-agency to spy on the spies, would it be announced on the Internet? No, it would not be.

    More interesting, though, is to consider why this article might be published. To sow distrust of Trump and Pompeo within the intelligence agency hierachies? No, they would recognize this as BS also. To paint the Trump administration in the eyes of the public as neurotic, suspicious, distrustful of his intelligience agencies, and without allies? This seems more likely to me; the article seems to be targeting a gullible audience. But really who knows; not me for sure.

    P.S. — Thanks for letting through Jesus Disciple’s initial comment – I got a good chuckle reading it, especially the parts about your Blasphemy.

    P.P.S — Actually I rather enjoy your “material that excels in textual hyper-vocabulary sophistry”. Your sentences with high levels of logical complexity are refreshing and interesting to read; it’s like reading materials authored 100 or 200 or 1,000 years ago. I for one hope you won’t ever try to “dumb things down” to fourth-grade level like for example People Magazine.

  6. #6 by MD on 12/06/2017 - 9:34

    To me, this article smells strongly fake. For all kinds of subliminal reasons, like certain ways things are worded, or quoting “sources” left and right; my super-duper advanced and sensitive neural network BS detector is being triggered. More objectively: If Trump or anybody else really was going to set up some ultra double black top secret uber-agency to spy on the spies, would it be announced on the Internet? No, it would not be.

    More interesting, though, is to consider why this article might be published. To sow distrust of Trump and Pompeo within the intelligence agency hierachies? No, they would recognize this as BS also. To paint the Trump administration in the eyes of the public as neurotic, suspicious, distrustful of his intelligience agencies, and without allies? This seems more likely to me; the article seems to be targeting a gullible audience. But really who knows; not me for sure.

    P.S. — Thanks for letting through Jesus Disciple’s initial comment – I got a good chuckle reading it, especially the parts about your Blasphemy.

    P.P.S — Actually I rather enjoy your “material that excels in textual hyper-vocabulary sophistry”. Your sentences with high levels of logical complexity are refreshing and interesting to read; it’s like reading materials authored 100 or 200 or 1,000 years ago. I for one hope you won’t ever try to “dumb things down” to fourth-grade level like for example People Magazine.

  7. #7 by Marian on 12/06/2017 - 9:34

    let me get this straight–the use of the word ‘create’ is blasphemous, in the eyes of one of the commenters in this thread, as an everyday use of lexicon?

    This is a joke, right?

    ed note–Sadly, no, it is not a joke. ‘JD’ visits the website here periodically and generally leaves an entire treasure trove of similar nonsense, almost all of which is deleted as I have learned through painful yet valuable personal experience that allowing them to have their deeply-craved 15 seconds of fame only feeds their fire and their egos, which I have found to be the primary ignition point responsible for their ‘activism’ in the first place.

  8. #8 by Jesus Disciple aka Awakened2Truth on 12/06/2017 - 9:34

    FOR “MD” ;

    “P.S. — Thanks for letting through Jesus Disciple’s initial comment – I got a good chuckle reading it, especially the parts about your Blasphemy.”

    Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity.

    Chuckle now, cry uncontrollably for eternity later because your not laughing at me, but those Jesus actually sends out.

    If you enjoy Mark using textual hyper-vocabulary sophistry then you expose yourself as yet another fool in the eyes of God/Jesus because sophists are inherently intellectual frauds who are only good at appearing smart since after all, sophistry is from “Sophia”, the ‘goddess of wisdom’ which is actually satan in drag and thus hence why sophistry means;

    “specious but fallacious reasoning,” mid-14c., from Old French sophistrie (Modern French sophisterie), from Medieval Latin sophistria, from Latin sophista, sophistes (see sophist). “Sophistry applies to reasoning as sophism to a single argument” [Century Dictionary].

    ..so you show yourself truly to be another willfully ignorant, naive, gullible simple minded easy to deceive underwit. Additionally, if you really think his material is like reading materials authored from 100 to 1000 years ago, then clearly it’s no wonder why those as yourself are who love to be seduced by philosopher’s wisdom of words, and fair speeches, which tickle the ears of the simple and foolish, are the enemies of Jesus since sophistry is inherently built on a foundation of self-deceit/self-delusion and it’s not a wonder why philosophy and it’s retarded children are enemies of the God/Jesus and the Apostles;

    Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
    Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus the Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. (e.g TUT and their supporters)

    1Co 1:17 For the Christ sent me (Paul) not to baptize, but to preach the Gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of the Christ should be made of none effect.
    1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish (like TUT and their illusory intelligent lemmings) foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
    1Co 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
    1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
    1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
    1Co 1:22 For the Judahites require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
    1Co 1:23 But we preach the Christ crucified, unto the Judahites a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
    1Co 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Judahites and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

    Col 2:8 BEWARE lest ANY man SPOIL you through PHILOS-SOPHIA *AND* VAIN DECEIT, after the TRADITION OF _(unsaved)_ MEN, after the RUDIMENTS of the world, and NOT after THE CHRIST.
    Col 2:9 For *IN HIM _(Jesus)_ dwelleth ALL THE FULLNESS of the Godhead BODILY.*

    2Ti 4:3 For the time is coming when [people] will not tolerate (endure) sound and wholesome instruction, but, having ears tickled [for something pleasing and gratifying], they will gather to themselves one teacher after another to a considerable number, chosen to satisfy their own liking and to foster the errors they hold,

    … MD, indeed your intials might as well mean “Mentally Dilapidated” and/or “Monumentally Delusional” and/or “Malovently Diabolized” and/or “Majorly Demonized” and/or “Morosis Degeneracy” because sophistry at it’s core, is used by people who are foundationally at their core always ensuring to make arguments that are subtly deceptive reasoning or argumentation and thus show themselves to be serpentine offspring since that’s who does such things and thus those who support sophistry are also of the spiritual household of satan and following their hero’s like pure willful idiots commending themselves they are ‘so smart’ and ‘so intelligent’ meanwhile, the cliff edge is coming and they hae no clue that soon enough they shall go over it into the eternal dark abyss and the lake of fire is too late to change your mind.

  9. #9 by Jesus Disciple aka Awakened2Truth on 12/06/2017 - 9:34

    “let me get this straight–the use of the word ‘create’ is blasphemous, in the eyes of one of the commenters in this thread, as an everyday use of lexicon? This is a joke, right?”

    Many modern lexicons have been hijacked by communists, synagogue of satan, it’s part of Cultural Marxism, and in order to make you believe you’re a little ‘god’, they have brainwashed the masses to believe that “create” is not something only God/Jesus does, but Bible fact shows that the word ‘create’ means ex-nihlo in the Holy Bible, it means something only God/Jesus can do of which only He is the subject of, so if you think modern lexicons are right and God is wrong.. then you’re proof why satan went to the woman first, she’s so naive and gullible when she stops trusting the true God/Jesus.

    As for you Mark, you belly traveling type; when you stated this;

    “ed note–Sadly, no, it is not a joke. ‘JD’ visits the website here periodically and generally leaves an entire treasure trove of similar nonsense,”

    You only again prove by calling what Jesus declares to be so, ‘non-sense’, you’re basically judging the real Jesus, but hey, you do that everyday to your own demise daily, and when you stated;

    “..almost all of which is deleted..”

    You may delete it, but i record what you delete it to prove to millions of people how much of a double-hearted, fork tongued devil you really are, you can’t delete screenshots you don’t have access to.

    “as I have learned through painful yet valuable personal experience that allowing them to have their deeply-craved 15 seconds of fame..”

    Once again, you grant yourself this sickening level of self-belief you are right in your perceptions when you’re 100% wrong. I DO NOT CARE about “FAME”, I care about REFUTING YOUR BOLD DIMWITTED BLASPHEMOUS LIES, I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT “FAME”, it doesn’t do ANYTHING TO SAVE ME YOU TRUE FOOL.

    “..only feeds their fire and their egos,”

    OH THE ACCURSED HYPOCRISY AND FALSE DISCERNMENT! IT’S YOU who has the ego according to the real Jesus you unbelievably spiritually darkened/blind fool! because you can’t even take the same serious scrutiny you put others under! Jesus commands TRUE believers to be DEAD TO SELF, DEAD to the OLD MAN, CRUCIFIED to the carnal passions, affections, lusts and affections of this world meaning YOUR EGO IS DEAD since the OLD MAN IS DEAD! When born again you are a NEW CREATION. If you could take the scrutiny you put others under and were not a coward AND actually cared about being humble AND cared about actually ensuring you DO have things right about the Holy Bible you so daily THRASH like a 5 year old child trying to use a sword and still attempting after you’ve lopped off 3 limbs already, you wouldn’t be spreading such immense bold faced lies and you would actually know the holy bible well enough to know that if you assault the old testament, you are actually assualting Jesus the Christ, because Jesus makes clear all through the NT that HE IS the God of the Old Testament, so everytime you attack the Old Testament you attack Jesus, and you call us ego types, and stupid, spreading non-sense and fools? WOW! Your utter vainglorious lofty grandiloquence and stench hypocrisy KNOWS NO BOUNDS! And yet you think you actually can represent Jesus when YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW THE REAL JESUS and you blaspheme Him daily? WOW.. you really are a vessel of wrath marked for destruction by your own CHOICE! May the Lord Jesus TRULY give you the Damascus revelation before it’s too late!

    “which I have found to be the primary ignition point responsible for their ‘activism’ in the first place.”

    Oh how you wish you were accurate and correct huh? Your immense illusory superiority of believing you have this amazing discernment, truly is delusory, a fantasy, man, the same spirit inside of you that makes you think you are correct in your perceptions, is the very same spirit that isn’t of Jesus, but His enemy, no wonder there’s not one bone of humility and true seeking to be right with God/Jesus nor one ounce of fear of God/Jesus.. truly all that is left is that it is instructive to know that even now, the world and all who reject the good news of God/Jesus and His gospel, ARE ALREADY CONDEMNED, just waiting for the final punishment to be handed down by the Christ Jesus.

  10. #10 by Marian on 12/06/2017 - 9:34

    ‘to prove to millions of people how much of a double-hearted, fork tongued devil you really are’

    Editor is correct–Disciple is delusional, and on several levels, not the least of which is his belief that his screen shots are going to be seen by ‘millions of people’.

    I would counsel those associated with this website to give serious thought to possibly passing along Disciple’s emails to the ‘proper’ authorities, because he is clearly not in his right mind, deranged, and possibly dangerous. People who talk like this generally wind up doing bad things to others.

  11. #11 by Gary on 12/07/2017 - 9:34

    mg, your approach to nutters like Jesus D is the only proper one. If you allow them to weigh in on any matter in any discussion, then what you get is what he has posted above–a bunch of gibberish and nonsense that derails any otherwise productive debate. I do agree that people like him could be dangerous, so watch your 6.

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