As Predicted–Palestinian Authority rejects Trump peace plan revealed in Israeli report


‘Rumors … about the deal of the century, as well as ongoing attempts to find regional and international parties that would cooperate with this plan, are failed attempts that will reach a dead end.’

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The Palestinian Authority said on Wednesday that “any peace plan that does not include an independent Palestinian state – with all of East Jerusalem as its capital – on the 1967 borders, is destined to fail.”

The PA was responding to a report on Channel 13 News that claimed that US President Donald Trump’s “deal of the century” will include a Palestinian state on 85% – 90% of the West Bank and some parts of east Jerusalem.

Nabil Abu Rudaineh, spokesman for the PA presidency in Ramallah, said that the “rumors and leaks about the deal of the century, as well as ongoing attempts to find regional and international parties that would cooperate with this plan, are failed attempts that will reach a dead end.”

Any proposals pertaining to the political process, he said, should be based on international resolutions and the principle of the two-state solution.‭‮

The report, based on a source who took part in a briefing in Washington on the plan by a senior American official, said it calls for the annexation of the large settlements and the evacuation of settlement outposts deemed illegal under Israeli law.

Regarding Jerusalem, the report stated that the city would be divided, with west Jerusalem and some areas of east Jerusalem the capital of Israel, and east Jerusalem – including most of the Arab neighborhoods – the capital of a Palestinian state.

Israel would retain sovereignty over the Old City and its immediate environs, the Temple Mount and the Western Wall, but it would be administered together with the Palestinians, Jordanians and perhaps other countries.

  1. #1 by Ladybat2 on 01/17/2019 - 9:34

    Will the Palestinian “state” be in FULL control of the Palestinians? Will the air space (the right to say who can fly over it as israel has the right to say about theirs), borders, lands, mineral rights etc, be in full control of the Palestinians or will it be partly controlled by “israel”? Will the fully established Palestinian state have the right that all other states have including the right to have a military to protect it as all other states have? Will the Al Aqsa mosque, which is located in EJ which is outlined in the UN 67 border outline as belonging to the Palestinians, be in full control of the Palestinians or will “israel” have any say over it as well?

    If the answer is no to any of these questions then what the Palestinians are being offered IS NOT a free and independent state.

    I ask all of my fellow Americans to think very hard about this “deal” when it is finally put in writing and shown to the whole world and is not just in rumor form on the internet.

    Think… if it were you would you accept any thing less for yourself? Could you honestly say you would sign your name and promise to accept it for ever and always?

    If you could not then do not ask the Palestinian people to do something that you would not even do yourself.

    Remember. Over 80% of the Palestinian people’s historic homeland has been given to these horrible European zionist Jew converts. While millions of Palestinian refugees, who lived in Palestine and now have been forced to reside in refugee camps and displaced around the world for 4 generations, If they are to be forced to accept less than 15% of their homeland then that 15% MUST BE IN FULL CONTROL OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE AND NO ONE ELSE.

    Any thing less than this….

    Will not be accepted. As it would never be accepted by any other people on earth either.

    That tiny little 15% left includes East Jerusalem.

    The European zionist colonist jew convert occupiers can not have even one more inch of Palestine. At least not with the blessing of the Palestinian people.

    Nor with the blessings of people like me who stand with them.

    NO JUSTICE NO PEACE
    The answer was no in 48
    The answer is still no now
    even if it takes a thousand years

    Long live Palestine (Filisteen)
    Long live the Palestinian people

    The one thing we have you can never steal nor take from us by force no matter how much power you have.

    Our blessing.

    Ed note–LB, we have been over this, and over this and over this, so I am going to spare my fingers and your eyes the elongated version and just get right to it–

    THE JEWS WILL–NOT MIGHT, MAYBE, OR MAY, BUT WILL–KILL OR DRIVE OFF EVERY SINGLE REMAINING PALESTINIAN IF SOME LEGAL/POLITICAL ARRANGEMENT IS NOT MADE. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

    Now, is this fair? No, nothing about this terrible drama is fair. Is it better than the scenario detailed above? Of course.

    And yes, sometimes life means choosing between the lesser of evils, and to any sane, moral person, the obvious lesser evil is clear. Someplace where the Palestinians can live their lives and not live in fear everyday of being forced to say goodbye to YET MORE loved ones.

  2. #2 by lobro on 01/17/2019 - 9:34

    mahmoud abbas is the insurance policy, another stroke of the protocols genius.
    because now it is safe for jews to say, “yes, we are in favor of sacrificing so much of our biblical heritage in favor of peace because peace and kindness are core jew values, unfortunately the ayrabs want to kill every jew and rape every jewess”.
    q.e.d.

    why did abbas jump the gun and rejected the proposal out of hand instead of waiting to hear it in full and ask for clarifications or use it as a basis for further negotiations?
    for the same reasons that every single “pro-palestinian” charity and political movement is 100% jew organized, owned and driven, just like the “negro advancement” ones (ncaap, splc, etc.) in early 1900s.
    (i know, i have a midget garden statue of mahmoud abbas holding a lantern sheltering under flamingo’s ass)

  3. #3 by Ladybat2 on 01/18/2019 - 9:34

    >>>Ed note–LB, we have been over this, and over this and over this, so I am going to spare my fingers and your eyes the elongated version and just get right to it–

    THE JEWS WILL–NOT MIGHT, MAYBE, OR MAY, BUT WILL–KILL OR DRIVE OFF EVERY SINGLE REMAINING PALESTINIAN IF SOME LEGAL/POLITICAL ARRANGEMENT IS NOT MADE. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

    Now, is this fair? No, nothing about this terrible drama is fair. Is it better than the scenario detailed above? Of course.

    And yes, sometimes life means choosing between the lesser of evils, and to any sane, moral person, the obvious lesser evil is clear. Someplace where the Palestinians can live their lives and not live in fear everyday of being forced to say goodbye to YET MORE loved ones.<<<<<Editor

    ******************************************************************************************************************

    May we at least see what the actual offer is in writing and may we at least hear what the Palestinians say about the offe instead of just relying on internet gossip especially Jewish oriented ones first before we start blaming Abbas for something he may or may not have even said or did?

    Will the US say in writing that it will protect Al aqsa Mosque if its not to be left under Palestinian control? Because the israelis have made it clear they plan to knock it down in order to build a new jew temple. I don't understand why they cant build their jew temple on the 80% of the Palestinian homeland they have already stolen. They just HAVE to have the Al Aqsa mosque too. And the problem with forbidding Muslims entrance to it has been long standing as well. Will the US put in writing that it will stand and defend the Mosque if the "israelis" try to harm it in any way?

    Will there be any form of compensation for the millions of displaced Palestinian refugees who have not been able to move forward in their lives because Europe and the US have given their homes and lively hoods to the European Jews?

    If there will be compensation how much and whom will supply it? Don't expect Arab countries to because they did not cause this problem so don't feel they should have to pay for it. They did not force Palestinians out of their homes. Europe and America and "israel homeland for the jew only" did.

    Will the refugees be given permanent citizenship some where as now they have none because Europe and America have rendered them non citizens in their own homeland and they only have refugee status where they are now?

    And my dear Editor… all these things you say will happen if the Palestinians don't accept Trump's "generous" offer what ever it may be….

    Those things will happen any way. I know it and deep down inside yourself you know it too. Because no one will stop the Jews from slaughtering as many helpless defenseless Arabs as they wish to slaughter. Deal or no deal. They will do as they wish any way.

    So if this deal does not happen then the world can just go on doing what its always done instead of dealing with the reason its there in the first place…

    Just keep blaming the victims because they won't give the world their blessing for the oppression it inflicts on them every day in front of all of our eyes.

    ed note– no one, and especially not on this website, is ‘blaming the victims’. And neither are we merely basing our position on what Abbas is ‘alleged to have said’ in ‘Jewish newspapers’. He has made clear since Trump’s Joo-roo-salem declaration that he will not negotiate with the Americans, and this has appeared all over the non-Jewish press as well.

    As far as the others and what may or may not appear in Trump’s peace deal, we don’t know, and how can we? But not knowing is not a justifiable reason for rejecting it out of hand.

    The bottom line in all of this remains–If some legal/political/military arrangement is not made, similar in some respects to the introduction of US Marines in Lebanon in the aftermath of Sabra/Shatilla that then resulted in a cessation of hostilities, then what will transpire is easy to predict–the Jews WILL butcher every remaining Palestinian left in the Levant, and, just as Reagan’s sending the US Marines was inadequate in the larger scheme, nevertheless, we can all imagine the extent of what would have happened had they not been there for the short time that they were.

  4. #4 by Ladybat2 on 01/19/2019 - 9:34

    >>>ed note– no one, and especially not on this website, is ‘blaming the victims’. And neither are we merely basing our position on what Abbas is ‘alleged to have said’ in ‘Jewish newspapers’. He has made clear since Trump’s Joo-roo-salem declaration that he will not negotiate with the Americans, and this has appeared all over the non-Jewish press as well.<<<>>>As far as the others and what may or may not appear in Trump’s peace deal, we don’t know, and how can we? But not knowing is not a justifiable reason for rejecting it out of hand.<>>The bottom line in all of this remains–If some legal/political/military arrangement is not made, similar in some respects to the introduction of US Marines in Lebanon in the aftermath of Sabra/Shatilla that then resulted in a cessation of hostilities, then what will transpire is easy to predict–the Jews WILL butcher every remaining Palestinian left in the Levant, and, just as Reagan’s sending the US Marines was inadequate in the larger scheme, nevertheless, we can all imagine the extent of what would have happened had they not been there for the short time that they were.<<<Editor

    On this point you and I are in full agreement. Force is going to have to be used. But not on the victims dear Editor. ON THE ONES WHO ARE THE REASON FOR THE CONFLICT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    The European zionist colonist occupiers.

    Although, I don't agree with you on the extent of the type of force that needs to be used.

    I've said it before….No military might needed. Just pull the cash cow tit out of the Jew mouth. Isolate them and tell the rest of the world to join us in this isolation. Embargo and sanctions of every kind.

    They will abandon that place all on their own. Folks like you are being bluffed by the con game they have been running since before WW1 and WW2. They are the best at bluffing because they are so very practiced at it.

    They are there for the free ride. The free land grab and propping up the world gives them. Only a minority of them are there for religious reasons. Those are the insane ones. The fanatics. Those are the ones that will likely never leave. But the rest will. When things get bad from embargoes and no more funds coming from any where they will abandon it and run like roaches on a hot stove.

    The fanatics left who refuse to leave…

    My dear Editor….. (grin) leave them to the Arabs.

    "And it's whispered that soon, if we all call the tune,
    Then the piper will lead us to reason.
    And a new day will dawn for those who stand long,
    And the forests will echo with laughter."–Stair Way to Heaven by Led Zepplen

    ed note–no one is saying or even suggesting that ”force’ be used against the Palestinians. They are not the ones who need to be controlled by the point of a gun. Like the US Marines in Lebanon who were there to stop the feral, inbred Jews from murdering even more innocent people, likewise would any US forces stationed as a result of Trump’s peace deal be there to hold back the vampires from the victims.

    As far as the rest, and the ‘boycotts’ and embargoes–how is any western country, whose money is owned by THEM and whose economies are controlled by THEM achieve such a thing?

    Besides that, as far as the bulk of them fleeing–where are they going to go? Europe? America” Russia? No one wants them, which is one of the big reasons Trump is pushing for this ‘deal’–so that they don’t come back. 2,000 years of dealing with them has resulted in the rest of the world deciding they don’t want them. Who wants the toilet backing up and overflowing after it’s been flushed? The whole reason for the west agreeing to the creation of Israel was to have a sewer where all the Judaic refuse of Europe could be sent.

    Wall them in. Let them eat each other. After they are done, give the Palestinians the keys to their homes and declare it all ‘mission accomplished’.

  5. #5 by awake and aware on 01/20/2019 - 9:34

    Ed note above said it best and for the life of me I don’t understand why there needs to be more than 5 seconds discussion or debate about it–

    ‘Besides that, as far as the bulk of them fleeing–where are they going to go? Europe? America” Russia? No one wants them, which is one of the big reasons Trump is pushing for this ‘deal’–so that they don’t come back. 2,000 years of dealing with them has resulted in the rest of the world deciding they don’t want them. Who wants the toilet backing up and overflowing after it’s been flushed? The whole reason for the west agreeing to the creation of Israel was to have a sewer where all the Judaic refuse of Europe could be sent. Wall them in. Let them eat each other. After they are done, give the Palestinians the keys to their homes and declare it all ‘mission accomplished’.

  6. #6 by Ladybat2 on 01/20/2019 - 9:34

    >>>ed note–no one is saying or even suggesting that ”force’ be used against the Palestinians. They are not the ones who need to be controlled by the point of a gun.<<<>>>As far as the rest, and the ‘boycotts’ and embargoes–how is any western country, whose money is owned by THEM and whose economies are controlled by THEM achieve such a thing?<<>>‘Besides that, as far as the bulk of them fleeing–where are they going to go? Europe? America” Russia? No one wants them,<<<>>>Wall them in. Let them eat each other. After they are done, give the Palestinians the keys to their homes and declare it all ‘mission accomplished’.<<<<Editor

    I'm sorry but I do not see how giving them even more Palestinian private properties is going to achieve that. All be it, that is what will happen any way my dear Editor no matter what you and I wish for. The European/American bowel movement referred to as "israel homeland for the Jew and the Jew only" was from the start and is today still forced on the Palestinian people.

    Palestinians are used to being forced.

    Thats why they will not give the world the one thing they have left that no force on earth can take from them.

    Their blessing, Their willing permission. If more of Palestine is to be taken then it will be the choice of the world. On the world's hands. And all blame goes to the world.

    The Palestinians will remain as they have always been.

    Innocent.

    ed note–you are correct, they are innocent.

    But where the discrepancy lies is in the assumption that the J-birds would be given ‘more’ Palestinian land. If we are reading the tea leaves correctly as to what (it appears) Trump wants to do, it would be to divide what presently exists between Jew and Arab and have that be the border between the two, and, although it has not been yet explicitly stated, have some ‘neutral’ military force acting as the barrier between the two sides.

  7. #7 by Ladybat2 on 01/20/2019 - 9:34

    >>Ed note above said it best and for the life of me I don’t understand why there needs to be more than 5 seconds discussion or debate about it–<<<

    Pardon me Mr Awake and Aware….

    This is a comment section. I am commenting. Even if you think there is no need for it. You don't get to decide if I need to debate any subject I wish to debate. Or how many seconds minutes or hours I need to debate about it.

    If you don't like my long winded posts then don't read them.

    ed note–your comments are not long winded and as a true supporter of Palestine they are very welcome.

    It seems that the point that Mr. ‘W&W’ was making is that what makes the most sense is coming to some sort of political arrangement whereby the bloodshed of innocent people ends. I could be mistaken but I didn’t sense that he or she was necessarily commenting on the length of your comments.

  8. #8 by Paulo Henrique on 02/05/2019 - 9:34

    “Two states” is a bad joke. “They have this world an want very more. Are sons of the maker of this material world and only a allien power can change it…

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